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Mongo Loid
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:32:00 -
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Unintended? Bullshit:
http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g615.asp
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Lysander Drakos
Evolution
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Lysander Drakos on 14/10/2008 00:33:56 Of course this change happens while I am on a break for the first time in 3 years.
I take it the power of 2 isn't going so well?
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Danny Centurai
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:33:00 -
[303]
Originally by: keuel CCP, you Phail, hope this bad idea get postponed, and oh, you said bug? strange, this bug was in eve for 5 years and still.
Credit crunch is the bug IMO
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Aganola
Amarr Hungarian Riflemen Regiment
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:33:00 -
[304]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Oh Wrangler, ur so meta.
lol... just... lol... spread the word by the way:
----------------------------------------------- "I do not belive in reicarnation... I didn't believed in it in my previous lives either..."
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 14/10/2008 00:33:50
Originally by: GO MaZ I think when your damage control posts get more angry trolling than the original thread you have to ask yourselves whether you're doing the right thing
They should employ me as a damage control consultant, rather than, say..
Reasonable rates and I'll work from home, thanks.
Eve-Online: The Text Adventure |
D4RT N3RDiUS
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:34:00 -
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i want the slashdot vercion of the incident plss!!
http://slashdot.org/submit.pl
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IR Scoutar
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Danny Centurai So everyone who cancelled an EVE account is getting a Jumpgate Evolution account on day of release, ammirite :D.
duuuude ... closed beta(when they finaly bring it out *taps foot*
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Paramite Pies
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:34:00 -
[308]
Okay...Sooooo...
First you're going to take away 15 dollar GTCs RIGHT when I need them, NOW you're going to take away 'ghost training' when I need it?! What the fudge, CCP. You're really just out to mess with my plans, aren't you? AREN'T YOU!?! __________________ Subscription ends: 10/13/08 Donations for a shiny new GTC? |
Arconite
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:34:00 -
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CCP, what a way to dress this one time in-game feature! You call it an unintentional bug and you say you're fixing it to balance it out. Yet, you even state it as a selling point about skills continuing to train even though an account is out of subs? Doh! Talk about mouth in gear, brain in neutral for whoever thought that one up!! Geez, what PR you have!
Then you come out with lame reasoning about database usage - geez, you sc**** the low end of the barrel you really do. If you're going to drop bomb shells like this - at least get the wording and reasons right and don't try to pull the wool over peopleÆs eyes.
You lot couldn't lie in a bed straight you're that crooked!!
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Col Carter
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: ArmyOfMe Edited by: ArmyOfMe on 14/10/2008 00:30:07 feel free to transfer chars with 20+ mill sp from accounts you wont keep running to one of my accounts
never actually used the feature, and i can see why ccp does this. but the way they are doing it is completly wrong, but if they go through with this they should stop all market orders and rp gains on inactive accounts as well.
it does not appear it is about the feature on its own accord, going over posts in the various threads. CCP isn't very good at PR but this situation stands out even from that.
GTC changes, Power of 2, Ghost training, then add bad manner and form, and you have people putting things together as a principle situation.
I'm not fussed about ghost training personally, but the trend eve is taking is visible, also the arguments presented by CCP are falsehood for anyone with a wee bit of economics in their schooling (the feature page part is while indeed a major attraction factor for many subscribers just something subject to change, because it remains CCP's game).
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Judas Jones
Amarr Black Company
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:34:00 -
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Thaks for making the decision an easy one, every 2~ months out of the year I stop paying/playing for RL festivities/holidays/break and usually have a long skill trainning. Now as of late, with some of the more fundamentally flawed broken game direciton I was debating if i should come back at all, this pretty has determined that for me.
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Vegeta
Minmatar Omniscient Order Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:34:00 -
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Yet another thoughtless post by a CCP officialdom who has not logged onto Tranquility for years.
When you don't play Eve, your ties with the community and your understanding of the game, especially it's current situation, slowly start to dwindle. This is easily spotted in posts made by most senior staff, with whom it is impossible to discuss what is really going on in the game since they have no real understanding of it (most will admit to this). Torfifranz is a great example of this, as you will clearly see if you look at his forum posting history (last post 2003.11.27 16:44:00 and no previous devblogs).
It's not necessarily a bad thing, except in cases like these where decisions which require community understanding and empathy are left to those without any. You may have been there at the start, but that was ten years ago and you don't know half the stuff that's gone on since then. Leave these decisions to more capable hands, even if it means your wallet will suffer as a result.
I'm sure the internal debate at CCP will be just as heated as the one on these forums. If the ones who still occasionally log into Eve have their way, the decision will be changed I'm sure. The question is whether there are any left, and whether they have the balls to stand up and say 'Hey, this ain't right'. I guess we're about to find out.
Also, by now one would have expected that you had learned to treat your players with enough respect to at least "give it to them straight" and not try to hide behind badly worded excuses such as this one. For shame.
I for one can't wait to see Hellmar and Oveurs presentations at FanFest - especially since in the previous years they have never failed to provide us with updated user statistics.
Vegeta hp
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Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist Oh Wrangler, ur so meta.
sometimes digicomm you actually turn me on
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:34:00 -
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Next thing you know you have to be logged on and docked just to train your skills.
I will be skill king then. WOOO ------------------------ "There was this bright flash of light - and now this egg shaped thing is on my screen - did I level up?" |
Kerpow
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:35:00 -
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Judging by how many have replied, does this mean that it affects a large number of players?
If as CCP say it's now an avalanche, does that mean we're talking about 10-20% of eve players doing this?
90 day market orders, are these going to be suspended if the player is not active? What about their contracts, their research, their manufacturing jobs etc?
I see a can of worms, lets open it.
If it aint broke, don't fix it.
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Vitrael
Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: "Player Guide" Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive (in the second scenario you can't change skill training, though)
Pretty fantastic lols there.
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Sarin Adler
Caldari Dark Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:35:00 -
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Instead of "rewarding" players who give you more money by subscribing with multiple account you go the other way around. Great, CCP. You insult us not ocne, but twice, mayeb you think we're just stupid customers right.
Please remove RP, market orders and all the other stuff while you're at it on don't talk bullshit about database load; and remove these bazillion inactive trial accounts too, plz.
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Supay
Caldari The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:35:00 -
[318]
Do a search for eve online ghost training on google. MMO websites are lighting up all over the net with this story and it doesn't seem to be in CCP's favour. This is really going to put new players off trying EVE, even if they don't understand what it means. .
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Denuo Secus Omg, I just don't get it!
So much rage about this change? I pay for this game. Point. And offline skilling is part of the game.
Some people complain that they can't longer pay effectively one and a half account and evolve three or four chars for that money?! Forming a char is playing EVE imho.
And to call CCP greedy is really uncool. I know MMOs where you have to pay for every expansion! CCP spent 50 man-years in Trinity I heard? Did anyone pay an extra fee for that? Only one example...
Payment Type:Credit Card Credit Card Details Change Payment MethodCancel Subscription Subscription Status:Active Subscription type:3 Months, Ç38.85 (Billed in Euros) Change Subscription Interval Next:05. December 2008 Total Charges Made:10
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2006-10-06 Sale**** VISA19.95 EUR 2006-11-04 Sale**** VISA14.95 EUR 2007-03-04 Sale**** VISA38.85 EUR 2007-06-04 Sale**** VISA38.85 EUR 2007-09-04 Sale**** VISA38.85 EUR 2007-12-04 Sale**** VISA38.85 EUR 2008-03-04 Sale**** VISA38.85 EUR 2008-06-04 Sale**** VISA38.85 EUR 2008-09-05 Sale**** VISA38.85 EUR
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Last 5 Payments: PaymentID Date Amount Description Status ******* 7/29/2008 38.85 EUR Recurring Payment for 3 Month EVE Subscription Paid Authorized with confirmation code #******* ******* 4/30/2008 38.85 EUR Recurring Payment for 3 Month EVE Subscription Paid Authorized with confirmation code #******* ******* 1/31/2008 38.85 EUR Recurring Payment for 3 Month EVE Subscription Paid Authorized with confirmation code #******* ******* 11/2/2007 38.85 EUR Re-Activation of 3 Month EVE Subscription Paid Authorized with confirmation code #******* ******* 11/2/2007 38.85 EUR Recurring Payment for 3 Month EVE Subscription Failed REQUEST ******* VALUE **07 OF FIELD EXPIRYDATE IS NOT IN FORMAT MMYY ******* 8/4/2007 38.85 EUR Reccuring Payment for Paid Authorized with confirmation code #******* ******* 7/5/2007 19.95 EUR Paid Authorized with confirmation code #*******
CCP have had just under a thousand euros of my money. Damb. Didn't realise it was that much... it's things like this that make people take a look at the numbers, eh?
How much to not be flat-out lied to, I wonder?
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Danny Centurai
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:36:00 -
[320]
Wrangler remind you of a certain information minister?
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ArmyOfMe
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:36:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 14/10/2008 00:33:50
Originally by: GO MaZ I think when your damage control posts get more angry trolling than the original thread you have to ask yourselves whether you're doing the right thing
They should employ me as a damage control consultant, rather than, say..
Reasonable rates and I'll work from home, thanks.
HAHAHA, brilliant
Originally by: deadmaus
Because by the time we had calmed Plague down after he heard BoB were back in the vicinity it was too late to do anything |
Amarria Drezine
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Amarria Drezine on 14/10/2008 00:36:58
Originally by: "Player Guide" Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive (in the second scenario you can't change skill training, though)
Yeah its a 'bug', but its been in the guide for 5 years.
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GO MaZ
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:37:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Avon Reasonable rates and I'll work from home, thanks.
I must say your posting on this issue has been most excellent, good job dear boy. ---
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Feriluce
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:37:00 -
[324]
Originally by: ZeroGasam Back to guild wars...
Please reconsider this CCP
Guild wars is great :3...cant wait for GW2
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Kwa Kaine
eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:38:00 -
[325]
CCP just love shooting themselves in the foot it seems.
CCP = Blizzard in training
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Col Carter
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:38:00 -
[326]
Originally by: IR Scoutar
Originally by: Danny Centurai So everyone who cancelled an EVE account is getting a Jumpgate Evolution account on day of release, ammirite :D.
duuuude ... closed beta(when they finaly bring it out *taps foot*
If you like EVE in a sense of how you can work the market, fly your ship and with others, and don't have unnerving tendencies to fraternise with a joystick, JGE is not for you. It's a low level dogfighting game with a mission generator with a bunch of servers, not to mention the state of pvp ...
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Rramar Claime
Amarr Task Force Zener Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Vitrael You said you didn't want to add a skill queue because of Ghost Training.
With Ghost Training gone, any reason we can't have a skill queue?
Oh i'm sure they'll get a reason.
I know how to fix this. I want rats to give xp so i can grind myself to level 70 caldari cap pilot! No more problem with inactive people, CCP you'd be so rich the whole iceland would just wake up from its ruined economy only from your taxes. Yes thats the way to go, forget skilling by time, i want experience implemented NOW! I want 8 million users for eve and wnat to go into instas to kill the mega boss sansha battleships, wish there would be a game like that. But all we get is this sh*t...
XP FOR THE RATS !
"I cherish the memories of a question my grandson asked me the other day, when he said; 'Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?' Grandpa said, 'No, but I served in a company of heroes." |
keuel
Gallente Heretic Militia
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Amarria Drezine Edited by: Amarria Drezine on 14/10/2008 00:36:58
Originally by: "Player Guide" Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive (in the second scenario you can't change skill training, though)
Yeah its a 'bug', but its been in the guide for 5 years.
Eve has bugs? I thought it was all features Oo
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Digicomm
The Digital Communists
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ivor Gunn
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Oh Wrangler, ur so meta.
sometimes digicomm you actually turn me on
Anytime.
sup?
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:39:00 -
[330]
Originally by: Mongo Loid Unintended? Bullshit:
http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g615.asp
It's listed as a feature in the original player's guide.
I thought I would show an actual picture of the FEATURE they boasted of themselves for years: Skills Guide to EVE Online: By CCP - Note the underline.
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