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Mira O'karr
Minmatar eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 20:51:00 -
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apart from the fact that ccp would never be able to claim 250k active subscriptions without GTC trade for isk my bet is that the next nerf will be ECM/Falcons. and rightfully so.
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Hixxy
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.12.05 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Falcons?
page 1 4th post and we have a winner
cba to read the rest tbh.
few of the eve devs play scout in tf2. thwap thwap, not so tough now areya, areya.
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Removal Tool
Reptilian Reality
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Posted - 2008.12.05 21:53:00 -
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Nerf Falcons indirectly by giving Command Ships a much higher sensor strength, thus giving the CS an actual role of Anti-Falcon and making ammends to players that trained CS.
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Zaknussem
Caldari Intrum Industria
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Posted - 2008.12.06 01:33:00 -
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I'm gonna go with a longshot from the outer field by saying that mining will be nerfed next.
The introduction of planetary rings and new Exploration mechanics in the 2009 Summer expansion will relocate all asteroid belts under Exploration, meaning you'll have to look for the belts first before you can mine them.
But that's not the nerf. The nerf will be that every spot that is found will have about half of the normal ore amount of today.
At least, that's what I predict to be the next Big Nerf. A smaller nerf may pop up before that, propably focused on a small aspect of EvE. On that front, my money is on the Orca...despite it having been nerfed in the last patch. |
Bohoba
Caldari HolyKnights
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Posted - 2008.12.06 01:45:00 -
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ECM and missles
we all know ccp hates cald race so it's a given anything with cald will get nerfed
well at least the last 12 patches been that way no poit changing now
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Skye NOT falcons, thier made of tissue and dies if something so much as looks at it.
Yeah, but problem is you can't even look at them with all the jamming.. And they'll just warp as soon as something comes close :P
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Edu Journeyman
Caldari BRAZUCAS S.A.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 16:44:00 -
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I'm pretty sure it will be something I'm crosstraining, they have my name on the black list, I'm sure of it.
They will look what I'm training to be effective right now, they know, they have access to my secret information.
Well, whatever, I will be crosstraining everything from now on, you hear? So, be ready to have thousands of stuff nerfed!
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:18:00 -
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Speed.
Again and again.
Until the game is slow enough for everybody, including senior citizens, to be able to follow what happens on screen and react to it.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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InSession
Minmatar Mafia Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:28:00 -
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Hopefully cloaking, and logoffski because those are making 0.0 ratting = NO RISK.
But I have a feeling I'm going to be nerfed.
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NightmareX
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:53:00 -
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Wow, for those who say Minmatar will be nerfed?, are you dumb or what?.
First you wall scream and cry that the Minmatar are junk and crap and they melt to any FOTM Amarr BS ships anyday. And now you want them nerfed? LOL JESUS.
Well i think Amarr is the next thing that gets nerfed. Amarr just need a nerf in the damage at medium range, also for close range fitted Amarr BS'es with Pulses fitted.
The 2nd thing i think will get nerfed is Falcons. They need a nerf in the ECM range. Get them to have a max range of like 100-120 km. Then it will be good. Well i'm not telling to get them nerfed in the jam strengts and that, just the range.
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RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:09:00 -
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Next nerf will be cloaks or lasers There was even talk of French toast
But there was none to be had |
MOCC3
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: MOCC3 on 06/12/2008 18:44:29 I say Minnie Arts. They want them to suck even more, then Cloaks. After that People that fly frigs in combat who notice that Warrior II eat you...But when the guy with the WarriorII is 3 years old.. bet he has good SP.
Now 100% yarr free. Why are you called a pirate if u fly under NBSI?
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Spurty
Caldari Technologic Dance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: NupetietVer From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
lol like anymore than 3 to 8 people actually get so incredibly rich from holding 0.0 that CCP is scared.
Everyone else has to do it themselves.
Next nerf should be cloaks on non-cov op spec ships Man goes to the doc, with a strawberry growing out of his head. Doc says "I'll give you some cream to put on it." |
Tobin Shalim
Vulcan Foundry OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 19:07:00 -
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ECM. I've heard rumors CCP is nerfing it anyways. -----
Originally by: Haakkon I feel a great deal of patriotism at being a part of Goonswarm. We've accomplished great things... we're just mainly jerks about it
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SniperWo1f
Omega Enterprises 0mega Factor
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Posted - 2008.12.06 19:39:00 -
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i dont think ecm will be a seeing a nerf it's been nerfed already and has decent counters . everybody cries about falcons but they are made of paper .
"In Rust We Trust"
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Spurty
Caldari Technologic Dance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: SniperWo1f i dont think ecm will be a seeing a nerf it's been nerfed already and has decent counters . everybody cries about falcons but they are made of paper .
ecm doesn't need tank or drones, it works at 200+km just fine. if you are pvp'ing as in under 200km from target, just stay cloaked. ppl don't fly rooks much for a reason Man goes to the doc, with a strawberry growing out of his head. Doc says "I'll give you some cream to put on it." |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.12.06 21:03:00 -
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AAAARGGGHH!! Stop posting in this thread, you're giving them ideas! uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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Lusian
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Posted - 2008.12.06 22:18:00 -
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Other then keeping the game mechainics in check there shouldn't really be any nerfs.
So many nerfs have hure the ships and moduels. Some ships were overpowere like the Vindicator during its time. The caldari did splash damage i believe back in the day wit missiles. Just being next to the explosion you would take on damage.
There have been many uneeded nerfs. Speed nerfing was a must. Takeing the nerf to the myrmidon and Vindicator was amust. Tings what were out of perportion. But some nerfs really need to be taken off. I dont fly caldari or use misiles but the Caldari were nerfd in ways that didnt need nerfing.
I would have to go with haveing little or no real use for resistance moduels anymore lol. I would laugh my A$$ off if that ever happened.
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CHAOS100
Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 00:18:00 -
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i go with anything that kills small pvp or anything that wont work with less than 100 in gang --------------
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: NupetietVer Edited by: NupetietVer on 17/10/2008 00:02:16 From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
Time to standardize the game like any other MMO and rake in the money.
Note: And while yes someone has to buy a GTC in RL, they fact that you can buy a GTC with ISK is something unique. Hence above.
Falcons are a possible nerf if everyone whines enough but normally it wont happen
Nuets may get changed a little but doubtful.
I'd say jamming drones are next, maybe sniping tracking enhancers could be nerfed a small amount... but really the game feels pretty damn balanced right now.
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: SniperWo1f i dont think ecm will be a seeing a nerf it's been nerfed already and has decent counters . everybody cries about falcons but they are made of paper .
ecm doesn't need tank or drones, it works at 200+km just fine. if you are pvp'ing as in under 200km from target, just stay cloaked. ppl don't fly rooks much for a reason
I fly rooks. I want you to see me, and I want your buddies to have a shot at me as well. I fly to get shot at without any ewar normally, but when people drop entire fleets on little ol me I even the odds with a rook/scorpion.
For me a falcon is useless other then the cloak, which i wouldnt use anyways as im always moving and Ill it ends up being nothing but a hassle.
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:18:00 -
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Scorch
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Calvin Roh
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:19:00 -
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I believe that EWAR will prolly get the boot, but that is only because of the number of peoples complaining about it - I think its fine.
On a general note about the "what nerf is next" subject and some of the responses seen - it seems that everyone wants this game to become shades of GREY, where this game is really about specialization and variation. If something seems lopsided, then you need to understand its weaknesses and fight against that. Staying with the EWAR example, as was stated already EWAR ships are made of paper that pop VERY quickly. So quit trying to build your alpha-strike-buff-tank and fit ECCM, painters, webs. Or, assemble well rounded fleets that are composed of more than just tacklers and DPS boats...
More on the next-nerf question... With the introduction of T3 ships, there will be soooo many degrees of specialized and varying ships being flown that this topic will diminish to only the very big game killers, it will be too difficult to put a finger on one ship vs. another as being problematic. Perhaps a lesson to be learned, in advance, is that we will be afforded the opportunity to build highly specialized ships, but with that you get a niche-role in a fleet and therefore have more weaknesses than you will strengths, so be prepared... Perhaps this lesson will have some unforeseen consequences on the T3 intent and force everyone to the middle with ships that try to do a little of everything, because you will never know what you will be meeting in combat and must therefore prepare for everything.
I know i got a little off topic toward the end, but i do think it was relevant to the whole "complain -> nerf -> complain about being nerfed" syndrome that takes up way too much forum space.
IMHO
Calvin
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Hroya
Gallente StrikerCorp
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:31:00 -
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The Ocra will be nerfed first. "oops, that wasnt intended, lets adjust that"
Cloaking wont be nerfed, instead you get a new skill tree to find cloaked ships.
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Snaps
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Posted - 2008.12.07 07:47:00 -
[115]
drones!
ecm drones are to good!
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Pr1ncess Alia
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2008.12.07 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: SniperWo1f i dont think ecm will be a seeing a nerf it's been nerfed already and has decent counters . everybody cries about falcons but they are made of paper .
if you keep saying it
it will become true.
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Falcon Troy
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.12.07 08:40:00 -
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Edited by: Falcon Troy on 07/12/2008 08:40:31
Originally by: NupetietVer Edited by: NupetietVer on 17/10/2008 00:02:16 From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
Time to standardize the game like any other MMO and rake in the money.
Note: And while yes someone has to buy a GTC in RL, they fact that you can buy a GTC with ISK is something unique. Hence above.
Ah another ****** that doesn't understand how GTC work in EVE. CCP loses no money in the trade. The only difference is you have one person paying for two people with real cash and him being paid in ingame money for the deal. CCP still gets paid. They get even more money this way because poor *****es with no lives can still play the game, getting others to pay real cash for them.
[EDIT] After 4 pages I assume somebody already mentioned this, but I just felt the need to anyway. _____________ Hai. |
AkRoYeR
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.12.07 08:43:00 -
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They will take CIs face back.
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Kebabski
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 12:19:00 -
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They should keep the game as it is, i's allready utterly ****ed atm. falcons overpowered, u can't even try o fight 3 ships on ur own unless seeing some kinda of jamming ships. Webs need to get buffed to atleast 75% and the speed nerf was too drastic, a coro mate's panther is now more than twice as slow as it used to be, officer webs got utterly nerfed, they're just a tad better than faction. Cov ops cloaks are fine, maybe the other cloaks could change a bit. ECCm needs to get buffed. And i srsly can't see why people have probs with caps, just coz their alliances suck and can't afford em doesn't mean they're bad. They're easy to kill, easy to counter and they'd be useless if they couldn't do what they do now, they're not effing logistics ships after all
'Peachy Lil Babe'
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Minny Sky
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Posted - 2008.12.07 12:25:00 -
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gtc price will just go up duh .... 1 bil for 60 day?more?
Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: NupetietVer From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
lol like anymore than 3 to 8 people actually get so incredibly rich from holding 0.0 that CCP is scared.
Everyone else has to do it themselves.
Next nerf should be cloaks on non-cov op spec ships
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