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NupetietVer
Neuro Cartographic Services
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: NupetietVer on 17/10/2008 00:02:16 From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
Time to standardize the game like any other MMO and rake in the money.
Note: And while yes someone has to buy a GTC in RL, they fact that you can buy a GTC with ISK is something unique. Hence above.
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Khraunus
Amarr Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:48:00 -
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Edited by: Khraunus on 16/10/2008 23:49:58 Nerf autotargeters. It's not fair that someone can target all 5 of my drones with just one button! They should have to zoom out and ctrl-click hoping it lands on one of them.
EDIT: Also, You do know that ETCs are bought with rl cash before they are sold for isk, right? Don't be stupid.
Most importantly, how are you supposed to tell whether this is part of my post or my signature? |
MineralOel Steuer
Amarr OP EC
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: MineralOel Steuer on 16/10/2008 23:51:27 The Minmatar Race.
Their on their knees now, but people still fly their ships.
The only numbers I care about are 3-2-1-launch.. |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:51:00 -
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Falcons? __________
Originally by: Tortun Nahme nah, that is the true badge of a forum warrior, to draw the humorous ire of the devs
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Khraunus
Amarr Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Falcons?
You'll have to try harder than that.
Most importantly, how are you supposed to tell whether this is part of my post or my signature? |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Khraunus
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Falcons?
You'll have to try harder than that.
Faceless Achura alts? OH WAI- __________
Originally by: Tortun Nahme nah, that is the true badge of a forum warrior, to draw the humorous ire of the devs
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: NupetietVer From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
Time to standardize the game like any other MMO and rake in the money.
Somebody has to buy GTCs with real cash before they can sell them for ISK.
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Khraunus
Amarr Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: NupetietVer From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
Time to standardize the game like any other MMO and rake in the money.
Somebody has to buy GTCs with real cash before they can sell them for ISK.
A bit late.
Most importantly, how are you supposed to tell whether this is part of my post or my signature? |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:58:00 -
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Curse your edits!
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DubanFP
Caldari Evil ALT Corp Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.17 00:00:00 -
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If I told you that then I'd have to compete with other people for flying the most powerful ship until that nerf. So no thank you. I'll keep my secret for my own private use thank you very much. _______________
"White, Black, Minmitar, Achura, Male or Female it doesn't mater to me. I'm an equal opportunity killer" |
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Lilin
Eye of God Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.10.17 02:30:00 -
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Titans.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.10.17 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Khraunus
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Falcons?
You'll have to try harder than that.
Faceless Achura alts? OH WAI-
Dude, your face! --
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.10.17 02:45:00 -
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Nerf the i quit threads, if you say your gunna quit then your account should be stopped as soon as you post it.
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Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lilin Titans.
If I do in fact leave eve once and for all. I would like to get melted by a DD before I go.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: NupetietVer Edited by: NupetietVer on 17/10/2008 00:02:16 From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
Time to standardize the game like any other MMO and rake in the money.
Note: And while yes someone has to buy a GTC in RL, they fact that you can buy a GTC with ISK is something unique. Hence above.
CCP still gets the money for the account, just from another source and they curb the ISK seller issue. Im sure it will be staying for a long time. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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ghost st
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:22:00 -
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The next onces I think will be: (not in any particular order)
-DD/Titans -Poses -Local -Cloaking
Just my guess
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:30:00 -
[17]
This is what will come in 2 months (then whined about and re-scheduled to 6 months from now):
"ECM-rebalance
Dear EVE-players, We have concluded that the state of ECM currently, in particular to Caldari-recons is unbalanced. After having an almost three hour long discussion in the office we have concluded that ECM in it's current form is not following our original intentions. Jamming something for a period time is not 'feature as intended'. First of all we will change ECM by making each ECM function as a targeted ECM-burst. Meaning, that there will no longer be any timer during which the target is jammed, it will lose it's lock and after that be able to re-lock any target at will again, until jammed again. We have after ten minutes of checking these changes out decided that the activation time needs to be cut somewhat, while at the same time reducing cap-requirements. Now meaning that a T2 Multispectral ECM will have a cycle time of 8 seconds with maximum skills (modifiable of course via support mods) and a 42 units activation cap cost.
This will finally make EVE a game about tactics again, and no longer will we see one Falcon creating imbalance where 2 ships can easily defeat 30.
CCP Nose"
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Kirra Liu
Gemini Industries Inc
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Falcons?
Falcons need a boost in my opinion.
Oh and, Face!
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:44:00 -
[19]
Nerf Dirk Magnum. After years of denial he is finally learning to admit he enjoys the show Scrubs.
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum Nerf Dirk Magnum. After years of denial he is finally learning to admit he enjoys the show Scrubs.
You just need a good dose of House, imho __________
Originally by: Tortun Nahme nah, that is the true badge of a forum warrior, to draw the humorous ire of the devs
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:53:00 -
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Strangely I've liked House since I first saw it.
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:54:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Dirk Magnum Strangely I've liked House since I first saw it.
Cause it's awesome
What was this thread about again? __________
Originally by: Tortun Nahme nah, that is the true badge of a forum warrior, to draw the humorous ire of the devs
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:56:00 -
[23]
Who cares. Dr. Incarnate run an MRI. OP do a tox screen.
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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.17 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin This is what will come in 2 months (then whined about and re-scheduled to 6 months from now):
"ECM-rebalance
Dear EVE-players, We have concluded that the state of ECM currently, in particular to Caldari-recons is unbalanced. After having an almost three hour long discussion in the office we have concluded that ECM in it's current form is not following our original intentions. Jamming something for a period time is not 'feature as intended'. First of all we will change ECM by making each ECM function as a targeted ECM-burst. Meaning, that there will no longer be any timer during which the target is jammed, it will lose it's lock and after that be able to re-lock any target at will again, until jammed again. We have after ten minutes of checking these changes out decided that the activation time needs to be cut somewhat, while at the same time reducing cap-requirements. Now meaning that a T2 Multispectral ECM will have a cycle time of 8 seconds with maximum skills (modifiable of course via support mods) and a 42 units activation cap cost.
This will finally make EVE a game about tactics again, and no longer will we see one Falcon creating imbalance where 2 ships can easily defeat 30.
CCP Nose"
That would be awesome. ECM would be even MORE effective vs BS and capitals (and anything else that targets slowly)
But tacklers and such wouldn't be quite so royally screwed anymore (nor would anything else with low sensor strength but fast lock time). __________________________________________________________
Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.17 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum Who cares. Dr. Incarnate run an MRI. OP do a tox screen.
Who gets to chug the pills and make snarky remarks? __________
Originally by: Tortun Nahme nah, that is the true badge of a forum warrior, to draw the humorous ire of the devs
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.17 04:03:00 -
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The devs of course.
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Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors. Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.10.17 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin This is what will come in 2 months (then whined about and re-scheduled to 6 months from now):
"ECM-rebalance
Dear EVE-players, We have concluded that the state of ECM currently, in particular to Caldari-recons is unbalanced. After having an almost three hour long discussion in the office we have concluded that ECM in it's current form is not following our original intentions. Jamming something for a period time is not 'feature as intended'. First of all we will change ECM by making each ECM function as a targeted ECM-burst. Meaning, that there will no longer be any timer during which the target is jammed, it will lose it's lock and after that be able to re-lock any target at will again, until jammed again. We have after ten minutes of checking these changes out decided that the activation time needs to be cut somewhat, while at the same time reducing cap-requirements. Now meaning that a T2 Multispectral ECM will have a cycle time of 8 seconds with maximum skills (modifiable of course via support mods) and a 42 units activation cap cost.
This will finally make EVE a game about tactics again, and no longer will we see one Falcon creating imbalance where 2 ships can easily defeat 30.
CCP Nose"
Thats not a bad idea. Balance that with an Arazu with sensor damps to increase lock time, and ... wow. Nice idea.
*** ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO) Pirate Coalition (Yar?) |
Stuart Price
Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.10.17 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin This is what will come in 2 months (then whined about and re-scheduled to 6 months from now):
"ECM-rebalance
Dear EVE-players, We have concluded that the state of ECM currently, in particular to Caldari-recons is unbalanced. After having an almost three hour long discussion in the office we have concluded that ECM in it's current form is not following our original intentions. Jamming something for a period time is not 'feature as intended'. First of all we will change ECM by making each ECM function as a targeted ECM-burst. Meaning, that there will no longer be any timer during which the target is jammed, it will lose it's lock and after that be able to re-lock any target at will again, until jammed again. We have after ten minutes of checking these changes out decided that the activation time needs to be cut somewhat, while at the same time reducing cap-requirements. Now meaning that a T2 Multispectral ECM will have a cycle time of 8 seconds with maximum skills (modifiable of course via support mods) and a 42 units activation cap cost.
This will finally make EVE a game about tactics again, and no longer will we see one Falcon creating imbalance where 2 ships can easily defeat 30.
CCP Nose"
Holy crap, I actually like that and I have a Falcon and everything. Admittedly I didn't train it on an alt so I'm doing it wrong but damn, that's a good idea.
The only problem I can think of is that it would obsolete ECCM, unless of course, ECCM was modified to provide resistance to damps, TD's and painters (thereby countering all E-war and not just ECM). Hmmm, I like that idea too. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier" |
Vasili vonHolst
Minmatar Gargamel's Lair
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Posted - 2008.10.17 05:17:00 -
[29]
ambulation cameltoes --->Movie: + Trillion damage to CareBear community--->M1tn4L? |
Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.17 05:33:00 -
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Next nerf after this nanopatch?
Easy, ECM or signature tanking nerf. -
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Varus Riaz
Gallente Sarissa Defense Group
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Posted - 2008.10.17 05:40:00 -
[31]
I'm betting on a darkhorse nerf to cloaking.
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Elegbara
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Posted - 2008.10.17 10:18:00 -
[32]
T2 BPOs Open your eyes. And Awaken. |
RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.10.17 10:28:00 -
[33]
posting
or posting with alts -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
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Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2008.10.17 10:37:00 -
[34]
boy.. there is just so much stuff that needs nerfing, dunno where to begin...
My bet goes on cloaking though
Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2008.10.17 10:42:00 -
[35]
Drones.
Yeah.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2008.10.17 10:43:00 -
[36]
My bet: Force multipliers(This includes falcons).
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.10.17 10:46:00 -
[37]
Lag *nods*
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.10.17 11:03:00 -
[38]
Originally by: NupetietVer From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money.
Quite true &emdash; no company would allow that. However, that's not what GTC trading is. GTC trading allows you to give another player ISK in return for them paying the account for you.
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.10.17 11:06:00 -
[39]
Thread cleaned.
Please stay on topic.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email / Netfang
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Kerdrak
3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.17 11:10:00 -
[40]
ECM ________________________________________
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Julius Rigel
House Rigel
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Posted - 2008.10.17 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: Julius Rigel on 17/10/2008 11:14:37 Like I mentioned in another thread, blasters. I'm putting my money on blasters.
[Eit:] Typo.
Frigate racing is fast and fun! |
TwoShoes
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Posted - 2008.10.17 11:14:00 -
[42]
Dare I say it, but "accounts/characters inactive for 3 consecutive months will be deleted".
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Lilith Order
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Posted - 2008.10.17 11:20:00 -
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Ask for 0.0 sec buff, they nerf high sec, ask for skill que, they nerf ghosting, ask for tracking speed buffs, they nerf nano.
What do people want to see buffed? See the counter to it and you see the next nerf.
Seeing an Eve end game anyone? |
RedSplat
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Posted - 2008.10.17 11:23:00 -
[44]
I hope it will be local: Local just plain shouldn't exist in 0.0, should show individuals in the nearest 5 systems in empire.
I fear it will be cloakers. The Carebear Brigade probably consider them 'griefing' ships.
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Sexiest Beast
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.10.17 11:25:00 -
[45]
Moon Mining
On a lighter note. Wasn't the forums supposed to be going through and "upgrade" I would reckon that the "upgrades" to the forum will displease some. ergo a nerf.
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Another Forum'Alt
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Posted - 2008.10.17 12:05:00 -
[46]
Falcons. HACtors (can hope) Amarr. This is not part of my sig.
...Or is it? |
Andrea Skye
Caldari The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.10.17 12:19:00 -
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NOT falcons, thier made of tissue and dies if something so much as looks at it.
Next nerf? hmm, prolly claoking or log off timers.
Not sure, only real whines i seen recently is against falcons. And falcons are finnnneee.. they dont jam 30 ships, hell they can jam 2-3 (asumming mixed jammers, which most falcons equip because you never know what you are going to encounter, and bigger than a cruiser), if one ship fits an ECCM then it makes jamming multiple targets very very difficult. Then did i mention falcons are made of tissue? One jam cycle fail at the wrong moment and your toast.
If they do nerf falcons, then i expect them to make it so they have some kind of tank that isnt breakable by an ibis.
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Demitria Fernir
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.17 12:22:00 -
[48]
Nanos. Again. _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 |
Deathhawk
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.10.17 12:27:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin This is what will come in 2 months (then whined about and re-scheduled to 6 months from now):
"ECM-rebalance
Dear EVE-players, We have concluded that the state of ECM currently, in particular to Caldari-recons is unbalanced. After having an almost three hour long discussion in the office we have concluded that ECM in it's current form is not following our original intentions. Jamming something for a period time is not 'feature as intended'. First of all we will change ECM by making each ECM function as a targeted ECM-burst. Meaning, that there will no longer be any timer during which the target is jammed, it will lose it's lock and after that be able to re-lock any target at will again, until jammed again. We have after ten minutes of checking these changes out decided that the activation time needs to be cut somewhat, while at the same time reducing cap-requirements. Now meaning that a T2 Multispectral ECM will have a cycle time of 8 seconds with maximum skills (modifiable of course via support mods) and a 42 units activation cap cost.
This will finally make EVE a game about tactics again, and no longer will we see one Falcon creating imbalance where 2 ships can easily defeat 30.
CCP Nose"
lol tob thats actually the best idea ive heard about ecm so far... give your self a pat on the back haha
DH
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.17 13:01:00 -
[50]
I think Forum Whining will be heavily nerfed by the moderators and the forgotten rule, that ranting is not allowed will see the forums again.
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Sarin Adler
Caldari Dark Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2008.10.17 13:08:00 -
[51]
ECM, script for range/strength maybe. A good thing IMO (and I'm a falcon pilot).
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.17 13:14:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Iva Soreass Edited by: Iva Soreass on 17/10/2008 10:57:57 Well the 'WoWhiner's Brigade' has started on cloaking, so my next bet is that will be hit hard next. (considering everytime they whine, ccp take action )
Heh there have been "Cloakwhines" since I started playing EvE.
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.17 13:23:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Demitria Fernir Nanos. Again.
Nah, there's still some juice left in a few minmatar ships. Them.
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NupetietVer
Neuro Cartographic Services
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Posted - 2008.10.17 13:59:00 -
[54]
All Passive Income generators like Moon Mining, Research Points, Market orders.
They did change the loot tables a bit to drop less junk, so another nerf is named loot dropping except missions in Low Sec to get players down there.
Or maybe only Rat frigs and cruisers in Missions in High Sec, while Rat BC's and BS only spawn in Low Sec.
Knowing CCP's logic, this would probably happen. Those good old days of the Wild West are gone now.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.10.17 14:02:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin ... CCP Nose"
CCP Nose is a ****
SKUNK
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Veldya
Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.10.17 14:22:00 -
[56]
Lets hope they nerf shit posting.
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DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
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Posted - 2008.10.17 14:27:00 -
[57]
ECM will become FOTM again so.... - - -
Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2008.10.17 14:39:00 -
[58]
Originally by: DrAtomic ECM will become FOTM again so....
will...? - putting the gist back into logistics |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.17 14:40:00 -
[59]
Missiles! __________
Originally by: Tortun Nahme nah, that is the true badge of a forum warrior, to draw the humorous ire of the devs
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Thea Arsoniztik
Red Tides Viewer Discretion Advised
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Posted - 2008.10.17 14:52:00 -
[60]
I'm going to keep my idea to myself because I don't want it to be considered.
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Aarin Wrath
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.17 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Aarin Wrath on 17/10/2008 16:44:24 My bet: HIC's ... infinite scram is over powered IMHO.
That or carriers in one way or another. They still are good at alot of things all at once. (yes I fly one ... )
EDIT: Maybe ECM drones ... or ECM in general by boosting ECCM (like they should)
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Sky Marshal
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.10.17 16:52:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Sky Marshal on 17/10/2008 16:54:01
The next nerf ?
Ok, so I will say...
The cargo capacity of low industrial-class ships, with the next Quantum expansion.
As CCP only know nerfing, no boosting, or pretend to boost something only because they nerfed everything near it (EM ammo by nerf of Armor and Shield, Shield was more hurted than Armor but they don't care...), then cargo capacity of many Industrial-class ships will be nerfed to make advanced ships, like Transport ships, more interresting, like the armor/shield nerf.
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Gonada
Priory Of The Lemon
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Posted - 2008.10.17 17:05:00 -
[63]
I'd like to see a nerf for forum posters who have mains, and eliminate any postings from trial accounts.
if you dont have the ******* to post with your main, then you dont have to post at all.
Please, jump into traffic
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Karentaki
Gallente Fighting While Intoxicated Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.10.17 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Karentaki on 17/10/2008 17:15:41 $10 on the Falcon please
Also, other things on the CCP nerflist:
Minmatar (yes, the entire race) Gallente PvP ships All PvP that doesn't involve at least 100 ships cloaking (because of carebear tears) salvaging (blame carebears) Remote repping (because it can be used to beat a larger force)
Quote:
EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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Leviathan9
Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.17 17:35:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Leviathan9 on 17/10/2008 17:36:09
Gallente.
First Drones, then nos, then the Eos, then drones again, then Arazu/Lach, then the Myrm, then blaster ships - The nanonerf kinda, makes closer range ships slower to get to those closer ranges, but that can be easily adapted and not that big a of a problem. Drones again? ----------------------------
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NupetietVer
Neuro Cartographic Services
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Posted - 2008.10.17 18:19:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Aarin Wrath Edited by: Aarin Wrath on 17/10/2008 16:44:24 My bet: HIC's ... infinite scram is over powered IMHO.
HIC's are ok, just get out of their range, oh crud a Rapier!
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Piper Halliwell
Minmatar Phantom Squad Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.17 18:33:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Andrea Skye One jam cycle fail at the wrong moment and your toast.
Then you are doing it wrong. You can jam from 200+km. Make sure you have one ECM burst and you can jam anyone trying to tackle you. Be happy no other cruiser sized ship can target and be as effective from that far. No tears for you.
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You've got a gun, I've got a gun, Let's write a tragic ending.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 11:57:00 -
[68]
Holy necro, batman!
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Cyrus Brown
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Posted - 2008.12.05 12:06:00 -
[69]
Falcons, Titans, & Amarr.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.05 12:14:00 -
[70]
SOV.
Well, I can hope can't I?
-- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again |
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Robdon
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Posted - 2008.12.05 12:15:00 -
[71]
Why does anything have to be nerfed more?
Just play the game as it is, and stop changing it all, every few months.
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Aphoticus
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Posted - 2008.12.05 12:55:00 -
[72]
Nerf or revamp? I would like to see the entire ECM, ECCM, Sensor (cloaking and local channel listening capabilities) be all interconnected to make sense.
It would seem to me that sensor strength, communications, sensor types, cloaking, and all the math that goes into needs to be nerfed/revamped to consider each other.
Let local be contingient on that, let cloaking be affected by that, etc.
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Lord Zoran
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2008.12.05 13:20:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Holy necro, batman!
this, anyway i'm gonna guess ecm is next.
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Valan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.12.05 13:35:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Khraunus Edited by: Khraunus on 16/10/2008 23:49:58 Nerf autotargeters. It's not fair that someone can target all 5 of my drones with just one button! They should have to zoom out and ctrl-click hoping it lands on one of them.
You're an evil man. I've tried that lol when they were missing on my overview. I gave up and adjusted the overview mid fight. We were overkill on the target anyway I was trying to save the tackler.
You cna pay for the doctors bill when carpal tunnels are buggered
/start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig |
Madla Mafia
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:17:00 -
[75]
Whatever the next nerf is going to be, you know it is going to affect the Curse and Pilgrim. ------------------------------------------
Amarr - getting screwed since 2005. |
Khandara Seraphim
StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:20:00 -
[76]
I'm hoping cloaking on non-covert ships is next to go.
cloaked afk safespotters are stupidly overpowered atm... cloaking should not be an "iwin" button that instantly stops a determined, skilled team of hunters from finding you.
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Tippia
Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:25:00 -
[77]
Nice necro!
Also, I'm going to vote for Autocannons. Not because they need it, but just beacause!
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Vele Nori
Amarr Dakinii
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:28:00 -
[78]
ecm, cloaks, amarr
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Skylar Vodkabar
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:29:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Khandara Seraphim I'm hoping cloaking on non-covert ships is next to go.
cloaked afk safespotters are stupidly overpowered atm... cloaking should not be an "iwin" button that instantly stops a determined, skilled team of hunters from finding you.
ACW-Anti-Cloaking Warfare
If they stuck anti-cloak missiles on the Interdictors, i'm sure people would train for them more. Such a missile would have a 25 km explosion radius to un-cloak ships.
Cov Ops- Include a high-slot module, "Spatial Analyzer", thats allows for probing for cloaked-Non-Cov Ops ships. Only a Cov Ops allows for 100% undectition, while sticking a Proto Cloak on a Slasher allows a certain percentage to be found. The high the meta level, the less chance to be found.
Having a ship to be as cloaked as a Cov Ops needs to be nerfed.
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Goyda
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:05:00 -
[80]
Originally by: NupetietVer Edited by: NupetietVer on 17/10/2008 00:02:16 From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
Time to standardize the game like any other MMO and rake in the money.
Note: And while yes someone has to buy a GTC in RL, they fact that you can buy a GTC with ISK is something unique. Hence above.
The people who by GTCs are PAYING for their account. CCP is still getting paid, someone else is picking up the tab. So I doubt this will be nerfed.
My money is on high sec ganking.
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5pinDizzy
Amarr Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:18:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Cyrus Brown Falcons, Titans, & Amarr.
A wise and appropiate answer I almost entirely echoe.
- Amarr, I'd consider an Amarr nerf in regards to nerfing t1 ammo so it no longer lasts forever as no other race in the game has this luxury, it seems unfair considering how effective even t1 amarr ammo is, oh and also likely a light dps or range reduction regarding at least some of their crystals.
- Falcons and to a lesser degree the Rook, again I'd say this was going to be a range reduction thing, no other covops class ship can affect someone from over 100km away letalone so effectively then easily cloak with full speed and warp away if necessary. Whereas with a battleship like the Scorpion it's more acceptable to have huge ranges.
It's especially hard to catch falcons more than ever with the nano nerf so this must be coming at some point, possibly geared with increasing its survivability a bit to make up for the lost range.
- Titans, well this one in inevitable. We all know that Titans are going to changed in some way so that they are still utterly powerful and effective but made so that multiple Titans and their DDD's don't stack somehow, some of the more obvious solutions would be really hard to code or implement and some others are gameplay killers.
The thing is you can't really unstack something that does dps, as dps will always stack, even if you add some sort of new dps stacking mechanic, you still somehow need to make it fair on the other team who may have their own Titan. So the only real idea I have on this to stop the stacking is to make the doomsday not a dps weapon, make it wipe the capacitor of every ship in range and/or make it disable the modules and engines of every ship in range aswell something. Then at least within a certain time decided time limit, the stacking ability is quelled. I dunno CCP are clever maybe they probably have some really clever idea they are working on right now.
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Price McChecker
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:35:00 -
[82]
OP = fail. Nuff said.
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Mister Zero
Synergy Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:43:00 -
[83]
Originally by: NupetietVer Time to standardize the game like any other MMO and rake in the money.
At last count;
250,000 active subscriptions.
$14.99/month.
$3,747,500.00/month
Priceless. |
Szent AdamKiraly
Annihilate.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:45:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin ... CCP Nose"
CCP Nose is a ****
SKUNK
Quoted for the utmost steller truth.
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5pinDizzy
Amarr Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:55:00 -
[85]
Yeah I can't take the idea seriously of anything being changed to GTC's.
If anything it get's CCP more money not less.
The have mores, give more for ingame profit, so the have lesses play too.
If there was no GTC system, the have mores would just give less.
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Poast Warrior
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.12.05 17:21:00 -
[86]
I'll take ECM for $1500, Alex.
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Letifer Deus
A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.12.05 17:44:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Thorliaron Nerf the i quit threads, if you say your gunna quit then your account should be stopped as soon as you post it.
I'd prefer a nerf to the people that say "Adapt or Die". Every single one of these persons should have their toons set to LVL1 in every skill they have and sent an evemail that simply says "Adapt." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
Jalif
Scorpion's Sting Blades of Serenity
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Posted - 2008.12.05 18:23:00 -
[88]
ECM Titans Minmatar??? Amarr Drones???
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Trinity Council.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 18:38:00 -
[89]
cloaks
they need a nerf anyway
/hides under rock
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Adaera
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Posted - 2008.12.05 20:49:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Falcons?
I think shortly after Chaos' face the nerf bat will inevitably swing round to them next
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Mira O'karr
Minmatar eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 20:51:00 -
[91]
apart from the fact that ccp would never be able to claim 250k active subscriptions without GTC trade for isk my bet is that the next nerf will be ECM/Falcons. and rightfully so.
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Hixxy
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.12.05 21:43:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Falcons?
page 1 4th post and we have a winner
cba to read the rest tbh.
few of the eve devs play scout in tf2. thwap thwap, not so tough now areya, areya.
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Removal Tool
Reptilian Reality
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Posted - 2008.12.05 21:53:00 -
[93]
Nerf Falcons indirectly by giving Command Ships a much higher sensor strength, thus giving the CS an actual role of Anti-Falcon and making ammends to players that trained CS.
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Zaknussem
Caldari Intrum Industria
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Posted - 2008.12.06 01:33:00 -
[94]
I'm gonna go with a longshot from the outer field by saying that mining will be nerfed next.
The introduction of planetary rings and new Exploration mechanics in the 2009 Summer expansion will relocate all asteroid belts under Exploration, meaning you'll have to look for the belts first before you can mine them.
But that's not the nerf. The nerf will be that every spot that is found will have about half of the normal ore amount of today.
At least, that's what I predict to be the next Big Nerf. A smaller nerf may pop up before that, propably focused on a small aspect of EvE. On that front, my money is on the Orca...despite it having been nerfed in the last patch. |
Bohoba
Caldari HolyKnights
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Posted - 2008.12.06 01:45:00 -
[95]
ECM and missles
we all know ccp hates cald race so it's a given anything with cald will get nerfed
well at least the last 12 patches been that way no poit changing now
....................... 10.5 hours a day do you have what it takes ?
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 14:50:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Andrea Skye NOT falcons, thier made of tissue and dies if something so much as looks at it.
Yeah, but problem is you can't even look at them with all the jamming.. And they'll just warp as soon as something comes close :P
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Edu Journeyman
Caldari BRAZUCAS S.A.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 16:44:00 -
[97]
I'm pretty sure it will be something I'm crosstraining, they have my name on the black list, I'm sure of it.
They will look what I'm training to be effective right now, they know, they have access to my secret information.
Well, whatever, I will be crosstraining everything from now on, you hear? So, be ready to have thousands of stuff nerfed!
Be your journeys long and prosperous. Treat the others as you like to be treated. Rude and fool are enemies. |
Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:18:00 -
[98]
Speed.
Again and again.
Until the game is slow enough for everybody, including senior citizens, to be able to follow what happens on screen and react to it.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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InSession
Minmatar Mafia Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:28:00 -
[99]
Hopefully cloaking, and logoffski because those are making 0.0 ratting = NO RISK.
But I have a feeling I'm going to be nerfed.
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NightmareX
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:53:00 -
[100]
Wow, for those who say Minmatar will be nerfed?, are you dumb or what?.
First you wall scream and cry that the Minmatar are junk and crap and they melt to any FOTM Amarr BS ships anyday. And now you want them nerfed? LOL JESUS.
Well i think Amarr is the next thing that gets nerfed. Amarr just need a nerf in the damage at medium range, also for close range fitted Amarr BS'es with Pulses fitted.
The 2nd thing i think will get nerfed is Falcons. They need a nerf in the ECM range. Get them to have a max range of like 100-120 km. Then it will be good. Well i'm not telling to get them nerfed in the jam strengts and that, just the range.
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RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:09:00 -
[101]
Next nerf will be cloaks or lasers There was even talk of French toast
But there was none to be had |
MOCC3
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:43:00 -
[102]
Edited by: MOCC3 on 06/12/2008 18:44:29 I say Minnie Arts. They want them to suck even more, then Cloaks. After that People that fly frigs in combat who notice that Warrior II eat you...But when the guy with the WarriorII is 3 years old.. bet he has good SP.
Now 100% yarr free. Why are you called a pirate if u fly under NBSI?
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Spurty
Caldari Technologic Dance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:49:00 -
[103]
Originally by: NupetietVer From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
lol like anymore than 3 to 8 people actually get so incredibly rich from holding 0.0 that CCP is scared.
Everyone else has to do it themselves.
Next nerf should be cloaks on non-cov op spec ships Man goes to the doc, with a strawberry growing out of his head. Doc says "I'll give you some cream to put on it." |
Tobin Shalim
Vulcan Foundry OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 19:07:00 -
[104]
ECM. I've heard rumors CCP is nerfing it anyways. -----
Originally by: Haakkon I feel a great deal of patriotism at being a part of Goonswarm. We've accomplished great things... we're just mainly jerks about it
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SniperWo1f
Omega Enterprises 0mega Factor
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Posted - 2008.12.06 19:39:00 -
[105]
i dont think ecm will be a seeing a nerf it's been nerfed already and has decent counters . everybody cries about falcons but they are made of paper .
"In Rust We Trust"
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Spurty
Caldari Technologic Dance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 20:46:00 -
[106]
Originally by: SniperWo1f i dont think ecm will be a seeing a nerf it's been nerfed already and has decent counters . everybody cries about falcons but they are made of paper .
ecm doesn't need tank or drones, it works at 200+km just fine. if you are pvp'ing as in under 200km from target, just stay cloaked. ppl don't fly rooks much for a reason Man goes to the doc, with a strawberry growing out of his head. Doc says "I'll give you some cream to put on it." |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.12.06 21:03:00 -
[107]
AAAARGGGHH!! Stop posting in this thread, you're giving them ideas! uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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Lusian
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Posted - 2008.12.06 22:18:00 -
[108]
Other then keeping the game mechainics in check there shouldn't really be any nerfs.
So many nerfs have hure the ships and moduels. Some ships were overpowere like the Vindicator during its time. The caldari did splash damage i believe back in the day wit missiles. Just being next to the explosion you would take on damage.
There have been many uneeded nerfs. Speed nerfing was a must. Takeing the nerf to the myrmidon and Vindicator was amust. Tings what were out of perportion. But some nerfs really need to be taken off. I dont fly caldari or use misiles but the Caldari were nerfd in ways that didnt need nerfing.
I would have to go with haveing little or no real use for resistance moduels anymore lol. I would laugh my A$$ off if that ever happened.
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CHAOS100
Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 00:18:00 -
[109]
i go with anything that kills small pvp or anything that wont work with less than 100 in gang --------------
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 01:20:00 -
[110]
Originally by: NupetietVer Edited by: NupetietVer on 17/10/2008 00:02:16 From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
Time to standardize the game like any other MMO and rake in the money.
Note: And while yes someone has to buy a GTC in RL, they fact that you can buy a GTC with ISK is something unique. Hence above.
Falcons are a possible nerf if everyone whines enough but normally it wont happen
Nuets may get changed a little but doubtful.
I'd say jamming drones are next, maybe sniping tracking enhancers could be nerfed a small amount... but really the game feels pretty damn balanced right now.
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 01:22:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: SniperWo1f i dont think ecm will be a seeing a nerf it's been nerfed already and has decent counters . everybody cries about falcons but they are made of paper .
ecm doesn't need tank or drones, it works at 200+km just fine. if you are pvp'ing as in under 200km from target, just stay cloaked. ppl don't fly rooks much for a reason
I fly rooks. I want you to see me, and I want your buddies to have a shot at me as well. I fly to get shot at without any ewar normally, but when people drop entire fleets on little ol me I even the odds with a rook/scorpion.
For me a falcon is useless other then the cloak, which i wouldnt use anyways as im always moving and Ill it ends up being nothing but a hassle.
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:18:00 -
[112]
Scorch
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Calvin Roh
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:19:00 -
[113]
I believe that EWAR will prolly get the boot, but that is only because of the number of peoples complaining about it - I think its fine.
On a general note about the "what nerf is next" subject and some of the responses seen - it seems that everyone wants this game to become shades of GREY, where this game is really about specialization and variation. If something seems lopsided, then you need to understand its weaknesses and fight against that. Staying with the EWAR example, as was stated already EWAR ships are made of paper that pop VERY quickly. So quit trying to build your alpha-strike-buff-tank and fit ECCM, painters, webs. Or, assemble well rounded fleets that are composed of more than just tacklers and DPS boats...
More on the next-nerf question... With the introduction of T3 ships, there will be soooo many degrees of specialized and varying ships being flown that this topic will diminish to only the very big game killers, it will be too difficult to put a finger on one ship vs. another as being problematic. Perhaps a lesson to be learned, in advance, is that we will be afforded the opportunity to build highly specialized ships, but with that you get a niche-role in a fleet and therefore have more weaknesses than you will strengths, so be prepared... Perhaps this lesson will have some unforeseen consequences on the T3 intent and force everyone to the middle with ships that try to do a little of everything, because you will never know what you will be meeting in combat and must therefore prepare for everything.
I know i got a little off topic toward the end, but i do think it was relevant to the whole "complain -> nerf -> complain about being nerfed" syndrome that takes up way too much forum space.
IMHO
Calvin
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Hroya
Gallente StrikerCorp
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:31:00 -
[114]
The Ocra will be nerfed first. "oops, that wasnt intended, lets adjust that"
Cloaking wont be nerfed, instead you get a new skill tree to find cloaked ships.
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Snaps
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Posted - 2008.12.07 07:47:00 -
[115]
drones!
ecm drones are to good!
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Pr1ncess Alia
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2008.12.07 08:37:00 -
[116]
Originally by: SniperWo1f i dont think ecm will be a seeing a nerf it's been nerfed already and has decent counters . everybody cries about falcons but they are made of paper .
if you keep saying it
it will become true.
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Falcon Troy
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.12.07 08:40:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Falcon Troy on 07/12/2008 08:40:31
Originally by: NupetietVer Edited by: NupetietVer on 17/10/2008 00:02:16 From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
Time to standardize the game like any other MMO and rake in the money.
Note: And while yes someone has to buy a GTC in RL, they fact that you can buy a GTC with ISK is something unique. Hence above.
Ah another ****** that doesn't understand how GTC work in EVE. CCP loses no money in the trade. The only difference is you have one person paying for two people with real cash and him being paid in ingame money for the deal. CCP still gets paid. They get even more money this way because poor *****es with no lives can still play the game, getting others to pay real cash for them.
[EDIT] After 4 pages I assume somebody already mentioned this, but I just felt the need to anyway. _____________ Hai. |
AkRoYeR
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.12.07 08:43:00 -
[118]
They will take CIs face back.
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Kebabski
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 12:19:00 -
[119]
They should keep the game as it is, i's allready utterly ****ed atm. falcons overpowered, u can't even try o fight 3 ships on ur own unless seeing some kinda of jamming ships. Webs need to get buffed to atleast 75% and the speed nerf was too drastic, a coro mate's panther is now more than twice as slow as it used to be, officer webs got utterly nerfed, they're just a tad better than faction. Cov ops cloaks are fine, maybe the other cloaks could change a bit. ECCm needs to get buffed. And i srsly can't see why people have probs with caps, just coz their alliances suck and can't afford em doesn't mean they're bad. They're easy to kill, easy to counter and they'd be useless if they couldn't do what they do now, they're not effing logistics ships after all
'Peachy Lil Babe'
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Minny Sky
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Posted - 2008.12.07 12:25:00 -
[120]
gtc price will just go up duh .... 1 bil for 60 day?more?
Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: NupetietVer From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs. And as it stands, EVE is the only MMO that allows buying ETCs with in-game money.
lol like anymore than 3 to 8 people actually get so incredibly rich from holding 0.0 that CCP is scared.
Everyone else has to do it themselves.
Next nerf should be cloaks on non-cov op spec ships
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Minny Sky
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Posted - 2008.12.07 12:27:00 -
[121]
this
Originally by: Pohbis Scorch
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Ocih
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.12.07 15:42:00 -
[122]
If it means you can solo, it will be nerfed.
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Master Han
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.07 15:53:00 -
[123]
They need to nerf the nerfbat, it hurts way too much and as such is imbalanced. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.12.07 18:11:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Minny Sky this
Originally by: Pohbis Scotch
yes, let those flying wrecks fall apart uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.12.07 18:20:00 -
[125]
Originally by: NupetietVer From a business point of view, buying GTC's with ISK will be up next. No way a company would let players pay for the game with in-game money. Once an alliance is big enough to hold 0.0 space and mine those golden roids/rats, that means free GTCs, i mean ETCs.
LOL you're an idiot.
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Sylper Illysten
Caldari Ex Coelis The Bantam Menace
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Posted - 2008.12.07 23:04:00 -
[126]
Misisles. Lets face it, the fact that missiles can do any damage to anything is completely unalanced.
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baltec1
R.U.S.T. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 23:27:00 -
[127]
My battlebadger. Because if they dont nerf the falcon directly it will be ECM.
I also expect pilgrims to be nerfed because I have I can now fly them
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.12.07 23:55:00 -
[128]
Not necessarily saying ALL of the following SHOULD happen, but:
I'm guessing Caldari Recons are going to get tweaked regardless of what happens to ECM modules overall. Maybe ECM will get a change overall or maybe it won't. If it does I'd like to see it become script-based. Have a short-range script that hits for full power, and a long-range script that hits for less. Since this is already the longest-ranged EWar system the introduction of range scripts might be the way to go if you HAD to do a responsible ECM nerf IMO. Simply nerfing ECM power in its entirety could potentially make the modules non-viable on unbonused ships.
T1 Battleships. Call me crazy but I see various nerfs occuring to the stats of individual Battleship classes sooner than I see CCP laboring to make T2 BSs clearly superior on their own merits to their faction or well-fitted T1 counterparts.
Black Ops. They're going to give it the ability to warp cloaked thinking that a lack of cloaked warping was peoples' main complaint about this class. This is actually a buff of course, but by making this change and nothing else it just nerfs the future of the Black Ops class. "We buffed Black Ops with the CO Cloak, problems solved, moving on to the next ship now" will be how it goes, and the addition of fuel bays and such will be further delayed.
Orca. The -10 flashing pod game is going to be ruled an exploit eventually, even though it shouldn't be.
Cloaking. No more ability to go safely AFK in stationless systems without just turning off the client thanks to the addition of an anti-cloaking device or probe or something. I could tolerate such a module if it only worked against the prototype cloak, but using it against the T2 cloaks is IMO overzealous.
Skill queue. Instead of actually letting people program real training plans into the queue, the queue system will just be some pile of hugely pre-nerfed bull**** that may as well have never been added at all. Just my guess on how this feature is going to be implemented. But seriously now that ghost training has been removed there's no excuse not to add a fully functioning queue feature.
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.12.08 02:37:00 -
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Dirk I think you're wrong on pretty much every point there. If I had to guess what's going to be nerfed I'd say Hicktors because (a) they are darned popular (b) they are meant to be a kind of support ship but many people use them as solo pwnmobiles (c) they have rendered regular interdictors obsolete except for blitzing level 1 missions.
After that I think they'll nerf Mining in general. Whether it be pushing the good oars further from Empire, or making miners train exploration, or making mining less of an AFK activity, I think they'll make it more difficult.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.12.08 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker After that I think they'll nerf Mining in general. Whether it be pushing the good oars further from Empire, or making miners train exploration, or making mining less of an AFK activity, I think they'll make it more difficult.
On this point I really hope you're right, especially on the moving of ore. One of the things I always push for (albeit in full knowledge of the proposal's likely futility) in mining threads is the relocation of large quantities of the basic ore types in High Sec into Low Sec. It would generate as many problems as it would fix and really be an interesting change to the game. But no, people say that they don't want to go to Low Sec and CCP can't make them and I say well fine there would still be ore in High Sec just less of it and you need to accept that module costs will increase if you don't go mine Low Sec and then agh I just want to juice them tbh
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Amarr Knights Of the Black Sun
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Posted - 2008.12.08 02:48:00 -
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I'd put my money on projectile weapons. I mean, they have such long falloff!
If not, then the nafalgar, they need to flip it so that it's not so freaking vertical.
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Slash Harnet
Minmatar Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2008.12.08 03:57:00 -
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A.) Falcons B.) cloaks C.) local D.) gate camping [in the form of more giant 'region-style' gates]
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