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Supay
Caldari The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.17 20:54:00 -
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According to CCP, ghost training was removed as it provided an unfair advantage for some players over others who subscribe to login and actively develop their characters.
I refer you to: http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2428&tid=1
Quote: This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.
As people flush in cash can afford to buy GTCs and then sell them for isk, this unfairly affects those who cannot. The people benefiting from this are not putting time and energy into working on their characters.
So can CCP either please give us a timescale showing how and when they intend to remove this system, or explain in detail why selling GTCs for isk is not considered an unfair and unbalancing part of EVE? .
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Khraunus
Amarr Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.10.17 20:56:00 -
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Posting in a ghost training thread.
Also, GET OUT!
Most importantly, how are you supposed to tell whether this is part of my post or my signature? |
Zephyr Rengate
Caldari Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.10.17 20:57:00 -
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VmeeX
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Posted - 2008.10.17 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Supay According to CCP, ghost training was removed as it provided an unfair advantage for some players over others who subscribe to login and actively develop their characters.
I refer you to: http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2428&tid=1
Quote: This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.
As people flush in cash can afford to buy GTCs and then sell them for isk, this unfairly affects those who cannot. The people benefiting from this are not putting time and energy into working on their characters.
So can CCP either please give us a timescale showing how and when they intend to remove this system, or explain in detail why selling GTCs for isk is not considered an unfair and unbalancing part of EVE?
It's your problem that you can't buy GTCs or maybe you are a troll?
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Tae'Lin Hynd
Simply Planned
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Posted - 2008.10.17 20:58:00 -
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got this one going already in ideas and blobbity bla
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=897633
SUPPORT THE BAN OF IN GAME GAINS VIA OUT OF GAME WALLET!!!!!
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.10.17 21:04:00 -
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Life is unfair
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.17 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Khraunus Posting in a ghost training thread.
Also, GET OUT!
Also also, give me your stuff __________
Originally by: Tortun Nahme nah, that is the true badge of a forum warrior, to draw the humorous ire of the devs
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.10.17 21:28:00 -
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/hugs OP --
Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal |
sasha baby
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Posted - 2008.10.17 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: sasha baby on 17/10/2008 21:36:00 the op does have a valid point after those comments by ccp.
but it wont ever get changed as ccp makes money with these practices
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VmeeX
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Posted - 2008.10.17 21:40:00 -
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The thing about selling GTCs it's obvious that CCP won't ban it, beacause EVE players get fast iskies by selling GTCs and they are happy. And CCP can make money by selling GTCs and they are happy.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.10.17 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: VmeeX The thing about selling GTCs it's obvious that CCP won't ban it, beacause EVE players get fast iskies by selling GTCs and they are happy. And CCP can make money by selling GTCs and they are happy.
...and RMTers sell less ISK and are unhappy.
-------- Ideas for: Mining
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VmeeX
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Posted - 2008.10.17 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: VmeeX The thing about selling GTCs it's obvious that CCP won't ban it, beacause EVE players get fast iskies by selling GTCs and they are happy. And CCP can make money by selling GTCs and they are happy.
...and RMTers sell less ISK and are unhappy.
what does RMT stand for?
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Gut Punch
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.17 21:53:00 -
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Besides the fact that life isn't fair...
Think logically here Supay. Why would CCP kill a source of its income? GTC sales are now all driven directly by CCP and they get a portion of the pie. It exists on top of their monthly income done by subscriptions. Do you really think CCP would shut of a source of income?
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VmeeX
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Posted - 2008.10.17 21:56:00 -
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OP is a troll. period.
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Doc Fury
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Posted - 2008.10.17 21:59:00 -
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SoonÖ??
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The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.10.17 22:05:00 -
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I really should stop replying to obvious trolls.
In any for-pay service you get... MOAR SERVICE (read: an advantage) if you pay more. 2 accounts > 1 account. 100 accounts > 1 account. He who pays more, gets more. Think about it. The GTC purchase money goes to the company making the game, ostensibly to improve it or buy fishtanks or whatnot. Instead of selling GTCs people with less RL time than RL money would turn to ISK spamers, and that's something none of us want.
Contrasting this to 'ghost training' is left as an exercise to the interested reader. Think 'paying less to get an advantage' here to get on the right track.
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FluterEx
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2008.10.17 23:09:00 -
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Ok now let me tell you why CCP supports GTC -> ISK trading. CCP supports this because there are ppl in this World who have the time to play this game a lot but not the money to pay for their accounts (someone who doesnt have a job for whatever reason maybe). Since they can buy GTCs for ISK these ppl are able to play EVE without having to invest RL-currency. Now tell me where is that unfair ? ---------------------------------------
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Preator Phenix
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Posted - 2008.10.17 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Supay According to CCP, ghost training was removed as it provided an unfair advantage for some players over others who subscribe to login and actively develop their characters.
I refer you to: http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2428&tid=1
Quote: This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.
As people flush in cash can afford to buy GTCs and then sell them for isk, this unfairly affects those who cannot. The people benefiting from this are not putting time and energy into working on their characters.
So can CCP either please give us a timescale showing how and when they intend to remove this system, or explain in detail why selling GTCs for isk is not considered an unfair and unbalancing part of EVE?
FAIL!
Now go away we not have use of your kind
-Phenix
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wdwjhdw
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Posted - 2008.10.17 23:58:00 -
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While CCP might be concerned with unfairness, it doesnt even rate against the importance of their profit. Not that ghost training was removed for reasons of unfairness anyway. Its pretty obvious its to make you subscribe more. When has CCP been concerned about unfairness before anyway?
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Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2008.10.18 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Faife /hugs OP
skank
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Pasha Cracken
Caldari Thanos and Killjoy Productions
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Posted - 2008.10.18 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Preator Phenix
Originally by: Supay According to CCP, ghost training was removed as it provided an unfair advantage for some players over others who subscribe to login and actively develop their characters.
I refer you to: http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2428&tid=1
Quote: This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.
As people flush in cash can afford to buy GTCs and then sell them for isk, this unfairly affects those who cannot. The people benefiting from this are not putting time and energy into working on their characters.
So can CCP either please give us a timescale showing how and when they intend to remove this system, or explain in detail why selling GTCs for isk is not considered an unfair and unbalancing part of EVE?
FAIL!
Now go away we not have use of your kind
-Phenix
We have a use for them,
but I cant disclose that information.... -----
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doctorstupid2
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.10.18 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Doc Fury SoonÖ??
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We can only hope so.
Abusive | Deadspace | Deadspace2 |
Ed Gein
The Empire Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.18 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ed Gein on 18/10/2008 01:16:30
the difference is ghost training makes ccp zero dollars
and GTC's make ccp many dollars
ccp likes to make many dollars
ccp, the original pirates
to be completely fair, ghost training is just as much BS as GTC's though, and I am glad its fixed --------------------------------------------------------------------- What do you call the person that brings a gun to a knife fight?
The Winner. |
Dr Caligo
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Posted - 2008.10.18 01:22:00 -
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CCP could not stop GTC for isk sales even if they wanted to. Be happy they now make it so you cannot be scammed with it.
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Plim
Gallente Oursulaert Technology Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.18 01:47:00 -
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You are correct. It is illogical that some people can pay for isk with RL currency.
But I like to pay for my account with isk
Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus." |
Obylix
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Posted - 2008.10.18 01:58:00 -
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Hmm, why do most people always reply with TROLL this and TROLL that? The guy has a valid point. Ok so we all know it makes CCP money, and we SHOULD all know that this "video game world" we all play in is actually a BUSINESS not some alternate world where everything is fair.
However, it does break certain aspects of the game when a person's character can easily "spawn" 500 million ISK. When I started EVE I worked for my isk, tons of missions, looting, etc. etc. It built skill and experience and created a true sense of loss when I screwed up ( a unique aspect of EVE that other MMOs lack ie WoW ) Now when people can simply sell GTCs because they lost a BS and disregard their failure, it does break the game.
I'm not saying it hasn't crossed my mind, I've lost a BS or two and thought "man I'd love to just buy some ISK" but I think all you guys criticizing this guy for making a valid point are lame. |
Market Garden
Operation Market Garden
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Posted - 2008.10.18 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Obylix
However, it does break certain aspects of the game when a person's character can easily "spawn" 500 million ISK.
The person doesn't "spawn" the isk. The trade of gtc simply moves isk from one person to another person. No isk is created or lost from the game, just transfered. In a sense it is in the end just someone else spending the isk which came from someone wealthy wanting to pay for the gametime with isk.
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Shard Merchant
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.18 02:09:00 -
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They're not going to remove GTC for isk sales as long as there's a cash market. Thats the whole point of its existence, if they don't put in a system and take profit, then they're going to simply forgo that profit to farmers. _______________________________________________ CCP CENSORSHIP ALERT: CAN YOU SPOT IT? |
Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.10.18 02:10:00 -
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One was being taken advantage of by hundreds of players to get skills for free while the other gets CCP money and helps to curb ISK sellers.... hmm, I predict that they will ban this on dec 15 2012. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.10.18 02:24:00 -
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GTC to isk is fine for the moast part. As hard as it is to believe there are quite a few eve players who really don't have the rl cash to fund their playtime and can't sacrifice their scant school budget that supplies them with drugs, alchohol and hookers for the satisfiying yet esoteric enjoyment of an MMO like Eve. However they have time aplenty to grind as much isk as they want as who cares about things like studying and trying to excel at thier school work so they can easily afford to spend isk to fund their addiction.
Don't you want to be a part of the next generation of adults who will take over forging the future of your country so they can pew pew to their hearts delight and idle their way to graduation and a burger flipper career?
Saying that get a ****ing job ya scouse ****s.
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |
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