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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 12/11/2008 21:11:49
Hello \☺.
I see lots of topics going now where many peoples can't get the Anti-Aliasing and the HDR to work at the same time on ATI cards that support Shader Model 3.0. But if your running EVE with Premium graphic, you should be able to run it with AA and HDR at the same time. Like you can with Fallout 3 for example.
And there is a guy who have made that possible a little while ago, and you can find the link to what you need to do HERE.
Or you can just download the ready made VBR script that you can just click on and it will do the job for you to make you run EVE with AA and HDR at the same time. The VBR Script is HERE.
You have to place the VBR script file in the main EVE folder where you have installed EVE Online (where the bin folder is located).
Remember, when you have clicked on the VBR file and then pressed OK after that, you will have a new shortcut on your Desktop that is called 'EVE Online - HDR'. Just start EVE from that shortcut.
And when you are ingame, then just press ESC and then go to the option where you can turn on HDR and Bloom. Then just activate them and you will see that you can run EVE Online with AA and HDR at the same time.
Normally if you have done that without the script, you would just lose the Anti-Aliasing when you activate HDR. But that wont happen now. You will still have the full Anti-Aliasing activated if you have that activated in your graphic card option.
Now enjoy the awesome graphic in EVE .
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Ice Breaker2
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Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 23:44:00 -
[2]
thx, worked for me
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.12 23:47:00 -
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nope, don't want my eyes to bleed
uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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london
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:25:00 -
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Edited by: london on 13/11/2008 01:29:07
Yay, my thread got mentioned. Still works great, and the batch method makes it even more convenient.
edit: oh wow! the VBR method is even cleaner because it doesn't run that damn command window in the background!
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Bob Niac
Gallente
freelancers inc
Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:26:00 -
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Please be careful when running scripts inside of your client's folder. You usually dont know what it does / could do.
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NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 13/11/2008 01:36:44
 Originally by: Bob Niac
Please be careful when running scripts inside of your client's folder. You usually dont know what it does / could do.
This script is 100% safe to use. I use it on both TQ and Sisi.
Simply, the script are just making the 'bin-hdr' folder in your main EVE folder, then it takes copy of the whole bin folder and place that in the 'bin-hdr' folder and then automaticly renames the 'ExeFile.exe' file to 'oblivion.exe' in the 'bin-hdr' folder.
Then it makes you a shortcut of the 'oblivion.exe' file to your Desktop, and the shortvut is called 'EVE Online - HDR'.
Here is a picture of the script opened in Notepad: LINK. Now tell me, do you find anything fishy there? .
That's what it does.
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Mr Killz
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:49:00 -
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ZOMG this definitely deserves my first post. Thanks a lot for that script, now i can finally run these cards to the max and play with these kick ass graphics.
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Avenger Garius
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:59:00 -
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Will the devs try and kill us or do they not care? Cause AA and HDR...... *Falls off chair*
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NightmareX
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Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 02:18:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Avenger Garius
Will the devs try and kill us or do they not care? Cause AA and HDR...... *Falls off chair*
CCP have even said that the EVE graphic engine, also Trinity 2 doesn't even support Anti-Aliasing, so that's the reason you can't enable Anti-Aliasing ingame.
But still, it works by forcing the graphic driver to use Anti-Aliasing.
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NightmareX
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Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 13:40:00 -
[10]
Forgot to tell that i have an old Radeon X1900XT card, so by running Anti-Aliasing and HDR and with full Anisotropic Filtering at the same time, it hurts my performance in EVE badly, so nornally i don't run EVE with HDR on then, only the Anti-Aliasing and the Anisotropic Filtering are at full.
But on sisi i run EVE with HDR on sometimes though.
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Imperius Blackheart
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.13 13:48:00 -
[11]
ATI cards have been capable of doing this for the last 2-3 generations, the only reason that it isn't in eve officially as an option is because Nvidia couldn't do it back in the day, and their performance suffers a hell of a lot these days if you turn it on (more than ATI's does) and CCP is very much in bed with Nvidia when it comes to graphics. I've been using the above method myself for ages and can confirm its safe.
Theres a few games out there (outbreak/fallout 3) that allow you to turn on HDR and AA if your running ATI hardware with no work around needed.
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Stric Dusko
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Posted - 2008.11.13 13:58:00 -
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one question:
do i have to go to the ati control panel and force AA on, or can i leave it on "let application control this" (or something to that effect) in order for this script to work?
i also have the x1900xt card, will this significantly impact my performance?
i think i'd rather have AA than HDR (if having both is not an option, if it's too slow as the result), as jagged blinking lines across the screen annoy me far more than lack of HDR would. |
NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 13/11/2008 14:17:25
Originally by: Stric Dusko
one question:
do i have to go to the ati control panel and force AA on, or can i leave it on "let application control this" (or something to that effect) in order for this script to work?
i also have the x1900xt card, will this significantly impact my performance?
i think i'd rather have AA than HDR (if having both is not an option, if it's too slow as the result), as jagged blinking lines across the screen annoy me far more than lack of HDR would.
Yes since EVE Online officially doesn't support Anti-Aliasing, then you can't activate Anti-Aliasing ingame, so you have to enable Anti-Aliasing in the graphic card driver settings.
Yes, running with everything on max will take your FPS alot down. I think i had around 12-16 FPS on sisi last time on sisi in space. So i would guess it will be better to run EVE with Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering instead then.
But for those who have the newest graphic cards from ATI, you can run everything on full without any problems though.
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Stric Dusko
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Stric Dusko on 13/11/2008 14:37:41
Originally by: NightmareX
Yes since EVE Online officially doesn't support Anti-Aliasing, then you can't activate Anti-Aliasing ingame, so you have to enable Anti-Aliasing in the graphic card driver settings.
Yes, running with everything on max will take your FPS alot down. I think i had around 12-16 FPS on sisi last time on sisi in space. So i would guess it will be better to run EVE with Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering instead then.
But for those who have the newest graphic cards from ATI, you can run everything on full without any problems though.
Thank you. 
Edit: Sorry, just to make this clear.
If I enable AA and AntiAliasing in ATI control panel, and don't care about HDR, then I don't even need this script at all, do I? The script is only necessary if you want AA/AntiAliasing and HDR together, right?
And also, if I enable AA, and NOT run the script, then enabling/disabling HDR in EVE will have no effect (it will be OFF, regardless), correct?
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NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 13/11/2008 14:55:44
Originally by: Stric Dusko
Edited by: Stric Dusko on 13/11/2008 14:37:41
Originally by: NightmareX
Yes since EVE Online officially doesn't support Anti-Aliasing, then you can't activate Anti-Aliasing ingame, so you have to enable Anti-Aliasing in the graphic card driver settings.
Yes, running with everything on max will take your FPS alot down. I think i had around 12-16 FPS on sisi last time on sisi in space. So i would guess it will be better to run EVE with Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering instead then.
But for those who have the newest graphic cards from ATI, you can run everything on full without any problems though.
Thank you.
Edit: Sorry, just to make this clear.
If I enable AA and AntiAliasing in ATI control panel, and don't care about HDR, then I don't even need this script at all, do I? The script is only necessary if you want AA/AntiAliasing and HDR together, right?
And also, if I enable AA, and NOT run the script, then enabling/disabling HDR in EVE will have no effect (it will be OFF, regardless), correct?
Question 1: Yes that's correct.
Question 2: If you don't use the script, you can still enable HDR in EVE ingame, but you will lose the Anti-Aliasing in EVE if you enable HDR even when Anti-Aliasing it's forced to be on in the graphic card driver settings.
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Marmios
Elite Aeronautic Developer Syndicate
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: Marmios on 13/11/2008 14:59:47
How do i get AA in the driver to work? Got it on 8x AA and 16x AF. No AA ingame.
Does it have to Full Screen or Windowed mode?
Any ideas?
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NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:04:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Marmios
Edited by: Marmios on 13/11/2008 14:59:47
How do i get AA in the driver to work? Got it on 8x AA and 16x AF. No AA ingame.
Does it have to Full Screen or Windowed mode?
Any ideas?
It works in both windowed and full screen mode.
But you might have to reboot you computer to get the Anti-Aliasing to work. Because i know that if you have been playing some games that you play in full screen and then exit the game, then the ATI driver sometimes use to get some bugged in some ways. And wont allow you to have AA on even when it's enabled.
So the only way to fix that is to reboot your computer.
But if you still have the problem after that, then let me know.
Check out my new flash web page 'Alpha Strike' |
Merfio
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:12:00 -
[18]
You sir made my day! Thx for the fix, it works now properly. Nearly bought an Nvidia card for that coz i was gettin ****ed off due to this situation.
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Marmios
Elite Aeronautic Developer Syndicate
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:13:00 -
[19]
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Marmios
Edited by: Marmios on 13/11/2008 14:59:47
How do i get AA in the driver to work? Got it on 8x AA and 16x AF. No AA ingame.
Does it have to Full Screen or Windowed mode?
Any ideas?
It works in both windowed and full screen mode.
But you might have to reboot you computer to get the Anti-Aliasing to work. Because i know that if you have been playing some games that you play in full screen and then exit the game, then the ATI driver sometimes use to get some bugged in some ways. And wont allow you to have AA on even when it's enabled.
So the only way to fix that is to reboot your computer.
But if you still have the problem after that, then let me know.
Thank you very much! It works.
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NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 17:41:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Marmios
Thank you very much! It works.
NP mate, i'm just happy to help when ATI or CCP wont help you to get this HDR and AA thing to work without using scripts or whatever other stuffs to get it to work like it should.
Check out my new flash web page 'Alpha Strike' |
quave
Caldari
EPIC INC
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Posted - 2008.11.13 19:13:00 -
[21]
I can't thank you enough, eve looks brilliant now.
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Karbowiak
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 19:56:00 -
[22]
win..
now if the catalyst control center could just revert back to standard automatically, it'd be even more epic
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Adamantium Beams
Section XIII
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:23:00 -
[23]
Edited by: Adamantium Beams on 13/11/2008 22:23:07
Is there something like aTunner who work on the last ATi ? (i hate the CCC and i just want an easy soft to adjust my VSync/FSAA/AF)
nHancer doesnt work, rivatuner doesnt have this options and ATT have too much options :(
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NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:58:00 -
[24]
Edited by: NightmareX on 13/11/2008 23:01:18
Originally by: Adamantium Beams
Edited by: Adamantium Beams on 13/11/2008 22:23:07
Is there something like aTunner who work on the last ATi ? (i hate the CCC and i just want an easy soft to adjust my VSync/FSAA/AF)
nHancer doesnt work, rivatuner doesnt have this options and ATT have too much options :(
Have you tried this one?: LINK.
EDIT: Ops, you already said something about ATT, so other than that, i don't think there is any better alternatives than ATT if you don't like the Catalyst Control Center atm.
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Daevonar
Minmatar
Starfish Operating Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:08:00 -
[25]
Edited by: Daevonar on 13/11/2008 23:13:49
Not just ATI cards, nearly all games of the last two or three years allow both with any card. It's a pretty standard feature now.
Also for those with nVidia cards, download and use a program called nHancer. This will allow you to do the same thing with in EVE and a multitude of other games.
You need to got to the eve profile (or make on if it isn't there) and then the compatibility tab and set the right compatibility mode for AA and HDR (which is... 00000045: AA & HDR).
Linky to nHancer
Dae.
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Imperius Blackheart
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:28:00 -
[26]
Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 13/11/2008 23:34:04
Originally by: Daevonar
Edited by: Daevonar on 13/11/2008 23:13:49
Not just ATI cards, nearly all games of the last two or three years allow both with any card. It's a pretty standard feature now.
Also for those with nVidia cards, download and use a program called nHancer. This will allow you to do the same thing with in EVE and a multitude of other games.
You need to got to the eve profile (or make on if it isn't there) and then the compatibility tab and set the right compatibility mode for AA and HDR (which is... 00000045: AA & HDR).
Linky to nHancer
Actually its a legacy problem with Nvidia hardware from the 6 and 7 series, for the longest time they claimed it was "impossible" even after their hardware supported it because of the performance hit.
As Nvidia help game developers with their TWIMTBP branding and throw money at them to help "tweek" the graphics next to no developers have taken advantage of the fact that its possible. Its the same thing with Assassins Creed pulling DX10.1 support because it made ATI hardware perform so much better as Nvidia cards couldn't take advantage of the added extentions. As it was a TWIMTBP branded game there is no way they could have ATI hardware looking/performing better so they removed it in a patch.
Its one of the reasons I refuse to get Nvidea hardware.
Old link about it with links to benchmarks etc
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Skywalker
Minmatar
Darkness and Chaos
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:30:00 -
[27]
Nice one mate
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Dax Bandar
Gallente
Ixion Defence Systems
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:33:00 -
[28]
IDK, tried opening with winrar and 7-zip, both say unknown format or damaged.
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NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:40:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Dax Bandar
IDK, tried opening with winrar and 7-zip, both say unknown format or damaged.
I just downloaded the file and opened the zip file with WinRAR 3.80, and it worked perfect here to extract the file.
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Dax Bandar
Gallente
Ixion Defence Systems
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:48:00 -
[30]
Ahhh, flashget and evefiles = bad mix; sorted thanks.
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Irena Kropotkin
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Posted - 2008.11.14 02:13:00 -
[31]
wtfugly hack, how the frack can renaming the exefile enable hdr+fsaa?!
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NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.14 04:56:00 -
[32]
Edited by: NightmareX on 14/11/2008 04:57:12
Originally by: Irena Kropotkin
wtfugly hack, how the frack can renaming the exefile enable hdr+fsaa?!
Because ATI have integrated a function in the ATI graphic driver that makes games like Oblivion or Fallout 3 to be able to use Anti-Aliasing and HDR at the same time. There is a hidden fix in the driver than enable those games to be player with AA and HDR on.
But ATI doesn't have that thing for EVE online in the driver, so we are just renaming the 'ExeFile.exe' file to 'oblivion.exe', because that will cheat the graphic driver to think we are running Oblivion instead of EVE Online, and then we can enable HDR when you have Anti-Aliasing on.
Or if i for example are renaming the 'oblivion.exe' file in the Oblivion game folder, if you have that game installed, and then rename it to 'ExeFile.exe', then you will see that you can't run Oblivion with AA and HDR at the same time. Because the driver thinks your not running Oblivion.
That's how it works.
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NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 02:17:00 -
[33]
Time for a little bump. |
Mashie Saldana
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2008.11.17 10:06:00 -
[34]
Originally by: NightmareX
But ATI doesn't have that thing for EVE online in the driver, so we are just renaming the 'ExeFile.exe' file to 'oblivion.exe', because that will cheat the graphic driver to think we are running Oblivion instead of EVE Online, and then we can enable HDR when you have Anti-Aliasing on.
Ok, by looking at the feedback I got from ATI/AMD when trying to raise this as an issue I guess we simply have to send them a lot of requests so spread the words.
Quote:
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting AMD Customer Care,
For new feature requests or issues encountered with the Catalyst drivers please kindly refer to the following link to provide feedback to our driver team.
You may wish to forward the link to other players/users whom are also encountering this issue.
http://ati.supportcenteronline.com/ics/survey/survey.asp?deptID=894&surveyID=486&type=web
Regards
AMD Customer Care
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Leyvan
Stand Vyritza
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Posted - 2008.11.17 14:23:00 -
[35]
Bumping, this - I've submitted a feedback using the link. Needs more people to do so
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Steini OFSI
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.11.17 14:40:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Steini OFSI on 17/11/2008 14:41:10
I ran Trinity when it came out on nHancer with 8800 GTX 758mb card, smooth and beutiful as silk, that was the same quality as they were showing off in trailers and looked gorgeous with fps up to 120, down to 45-50 with some screen activity (mind with the full AA, shadows and all that mumbojumbo). Haven't done it though in a long time, mainly because nHancer needed fullscreen to work (does it still?) and with dual monitor, 2 accounts and web browsing at the same time just didn't work with full screen mode.
I'm still thinking about getting a dedicated browsing/video/alt comp to play EvE in these gorgeous settings, but would like have to be able to flip with a switch the keyboard and mouse (just as easilly as I alt tab) is that possible?
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Litre Cola
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Posted - 2008.11.18 02:33:00 -
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Edited by: Litre Cola on 18/11/2008 02:33:29
not working for ati 4870. downloaded, extracted to main eve folder ran the script. forced aa in CCC, 4x, 8x, 24x, as well as adaptive aa. still got jaggies. aa doesn't seem to work with or without HDR enabled. I don't get any performance hit either so i dont' think i'm just being picky with the shimmering jaggies on my ship at certain angles and all stations/jumpgates. this is with catalyst 8.9 tho, i can't see 8.10 or 8.11 really addressing this issue so i haven't and most likely won't update to those drivers unless i have issues specifically fixed within those newer drivers. |
NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 03:19:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Litre Cola
Edited by: Litre Cola on 18/11/2008 02:33:29
not working for ati 4870. downloaded, extracted to main eve folder ran the script. forced aa in CCC, 4x, 8x, 24x, as well as adaptive aa. still got jaggies. aa doesn't seem to work with or without HDR enabled. I don't get any performance hit either so i dont' think i'm just being picky with the shimmering jaggies on my ship at certain angles and all stations/jumpgates. this is with catalyst 8.9 tho, i can't see 8.10 or 8.11 really addressing this issue so i haven't and most likely won't update to those drivers unless i have issues specifically fixed within those newer drivers.
Tried to restart your computer after you used the VBR script?.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:13:00 -
[39]
Originally by: NightmareX
Edited by: NightmareX on 14/11/2008 04:57:12
Originally by: Irena Kropotkin
wtfugly hack, how the frack can renaming the exefile enable hdr+fsaa?!
Because ATI have integrated a function in the ATI graphic driver that makes games like Oblivion or Fallout 3 to be able to use Anti-Aliasing and HDR at the same time. There is a hidden fix in the driver than enable those games to be player with AA and HDR on.
But ATI doesn't have that thing for EVE online in the driver, so we are just renaming the 'ExeFile.exe' file to 'oblivion.exe', because that will cheat the graphic driver to think we are running Oblivion instead of EVE Online, and then we can enable HDR when you have Anti-Aliasing on.
Or if i for example are renaming the 'oblivion.exe' file in the Oblivion game folder, if you have that game installed, and then rename it to 'ExeFile.exe', then you will see that you can't run Oblivion with AA and HDR at the same time. Because the driver thinks your not running Oblivion.
That's how it works.
If it's anything like the nvidia drivers, it's not that it's fooling the drivers, there's probably just an application profile somewhere in the ATI configs that overrides the defaults for Oblivion. Nvidia's got the same thing in its driver settings, doesn't work too well, hence why nHancer helps. :)
It IS a strange solution to the problem, but if it works then knock yourselves out. :D I ran AA+HDR for a while, but in situations like a large fleet fight, I prefer to not risk bad framerates or game crashes just to have AA.
Then again in those situations you're mostly staring at square boxes and your overview, so the uber graphics don't really do much. :D
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geomatica
Infusion.
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:43:00 -
[40]
Sorry to be off topic/ competition holder...
Is there a way to do this for nVidia cards? I love the look of the cleaned up engine.
Also, is tht a base Mach or some super seekrit Mach? That's freaking sexy. |
Leyvan
Stand Vyritza
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Posted - 2008.11.18 06:50:00 -
[41]
Originally by: geomatica
Sorry to be off topic/ competition holder...
Is there a way to do this for nVidia cards? I love the look of the cleaned up engine.
Also, is tht a base Mach or some super seekrit Mach? That's freaking sexy.
Download nHancer,
Run it,
Select AA
select the mode you want
untick the "enhance game antialiasing"
goto the 3rd tab
on anti aliasing compability select oblivion
If your nvidia card is the geforce 8000 series or newer, you should be able to run anti aliasing with hdr.
If it's the older you will have to tick the disable HDR box in order for it to run properly.
Please note that if you disable hdr, games whose graphics engine are dependant on hdr(gear of war, UT3) will crash!! |
NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.21 16:44:00 -
[42]
Time for another bump.
I'll guess more peoples want to know about this though.
Check out my new flash web page 'Alpha Strike' |
Jaala Creed
Minmatar
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.11.21 18:26:00 -
[43]
Ive been using this for a couple of months now. Its awesomely great. :)
-Jaala
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Porucznik Borewicz
Gallente
Divine Retribution
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.12.04 21:20:00 -
[44]
Thanx for the tip with nHancer. Now I can enjoy fine AA with HDR candyness. Any chance You can help me guys with the refresh rate settings? No metter what refresh rate I set on my desktop, EVE always sets the refresh rate of 60Hz as default. Any way I can override that? I would like it to go with 75Hz like my desktop. There was a time you could set the refresh rate within the client but it's gone now. Dunno why CCP have removed it from the advanced graphic settings.
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Faye Valerii
Caldari
Exeunt Omnes
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Posted - 2008.12.04 21:30:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Steini OFSI
Edited by: Steini OFSI on 17/11/2008 14:55:00
Edited by: Steini OFSI on 17/11/2008 14:41:10
I ran Trinity when it came out on nHancer with 8800 GTX 758mb card, smooth and beutiful as silk, that was the same quality as they were showing off in trailers and looked gorgeous with fps up to 120, down to 45-50 with some screen activity (mind with the full AA, shadows and all that mumbojumbo). Haven't done it though in a long time, mainly because nHancer needed fullscreen to work (does it still?) and with dual monitor, 2 accounts and web browsing at the same time just didn't work with full screen mode.
I'm still thinking about getting a dedicated browsing/video/alt comp to play EvE (I could store the labtop under the table and put it on one of the screen) in these gorgeous settings on my main computer, but would like have to be able to flip with a switch the keyboard and mouse (just as easilly as I alt tab) is that possible?
Yes, there are cheap 'usb switches'. you plug the switch into your two pc's, and your mouse/keyb into the switch. then you can just press a button on the switch and presto, your mouse/keyb gets slaved to the other comp.
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Porucznik Borewicz
Gallente
Divine Retribution
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.12.08 08:37:00 -
[46]
I played a while with HDR + AA enabled with nHancer and I observed that here is a lot of artefacts (white squares and circles) appearing on your ship when it's cloacked. I'm back to playing EVE with AA only. Still looks great.
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Molly Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.12.08 11:35:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Leyvan
Bumping, this - I've submitted a feedback using the link. Needs more people to do so
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Wa'roun
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.12.08 12:10:00 -
[48]
When people jump through gates, I see lines in space.
Is this just a graphic tearing from my older x800 or does everyone else see this?
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Dementia Empress
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Posted - 2008.12.08 15:45:00 -
[49]
sweet, this actually fixed the blue.dll crashes i was getting o.O <3
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Porucznik Borewicz
Gallente
Divine Retribution
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.12.09 06:32:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Wa'roun
When people jump through gates, I see lines in space.
Is this just a graphic tearing from my older x800 or does everyone else see this?
I think it's common. I see the lines from time to time since the latest QR patch.
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Xechor
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Posted - 2008.12.10 03:19:00 -
[51]
Confirmed cloak artifacts on a Visiontek HD 4870 X2. Little white balls and squares from any zoom. Kinda strange, but I don't mind.
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Molly Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.12.10 06:46:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Xechor
Confirmed cloak artifacts on a Visiontek HD 4870 X2. Little white balls and squares from any zoom. Kinda strange, but I don't mind.
I get those too, but since the no-AA jaggies are gone I consider it a fair trade.
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NightmareX
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 01:16:00 -
[53]
Woot. Time to bump this topic so more can get this to work.
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Azulya
Caldari
Azule Wolves
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Posted - 2009.01.19 07:47:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Azulya on 19/01/2009 07:50:46
Edited by: Azulya on 19/01/2009 07:48:36
Edited by: Azulya on 19/01/2009 07:48:16
Originally by: NightmareX
Edited by: NightmareX on 13/11/2008 01:26:02
Hello \.
I see lots of topics going now where many peoples can't get the Anti-Aliasing and the HDR to work at the same time on ATI cards that support Shader Model 3.0. But if your running EVE with Premium graphic, you should be able to run it with AA and HDR at the same time. Like you can with Fallout 3 for example.
And there is a guy who have made that possible a little while ago, and you can find the link to what you need to do HERE.
Or you can just download the ready made VBR script that you can just click on and it will do the job for you to make you run EVE with AA and HDR at the same time. The VBR Script is HERE.
You have to place the VBR script file in the main EVE folder where you have installed EVE Online (where the bin folder is located).
Remember, when you have clicked on the VBR file in the main EVE folder and then pressed OK after that, you will have a new folder called 'bin-hdr' in your main EVE folder + you will have a new shortcut on your Desktop that is called 'EVE Online - HDR'. Just start EVE from that shortcut.
And when you are ingame, then just press Esc and then go to the option where you can turn on HDR and Bloom. Then just activate them and you will have to restart EVE and then start EVE again, then you will see that EVE Online runs with both AA and HDR at the same time.
It's also important that you run the VBR script again after every patches. But before you do that, you should just delete the 'bin-hdr' folder in your main EVE folder, so you don't run into some problems. Because the script will make a new 'bin-hdr' folder with the files that eventually are modified in the new patch. You will always have a new 'EVE Online - HDR' shortcut on your Desktop after each time you run the VBR scrips.
Normally if you have done that without the script, you would just lose the Anti-Aliasing when you activate HDR. But that wont happen now. You will still have the full Anti-Aliasing activated if you have that activated in your graphic card option.
Here you can see the difference without HDR and with HDR on.
EVE Online With Anti-Aliasing, But Without HDR On.
EVE Online With Anti-Aliasing + HDR On At The Same Time.
Now enjoy the awesome graphic in EVE, with HDR.
I tried everything in that topic but none of it will even work to run anti-aliasing with OR without HDR. I even tried disabling premium graphics but still no anti-aliasing whatsoever. I tried forcing it in ATI Tray Tools to 2, 4, and 6. None of it works at all.
Tried adaptive anti-aliasing and temporal anti-aliasing as well.. no luck with those, either.
Is it now impossible to enable ANY kind of anti-aliasing under ANY circumstances for EVE? I don't think I'm going to waste money renewing my subscription if there can't even be AA anymore.
Edit: Damn I can't even find the button to e-mail subscribe to the topic. Where is it??? =/ These forums are pretty messed up lately. |
huxorator
Intergalactic Serenity
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.01.19 08:29:00 -
[55]
Is there a way to have this fix working with Evelauncher? I am logged in with 2 windowed accounts all the time, so I need Evelauncher to position my windows - this will be a problem with a shortcut on my desktop, right?
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ZephyrLexx
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.19 08:58:00 -
[56]
I have an ATI HD4870 and while I can run on maximum settings 8x AA / HDR / Bloom / full shadows / 1690x1050 resolution, try playing with that in even a small fleet battle and your game will either crash due to having AA forced and the game not supporting it (see: xx page forum thread in tech sub-forum about the issue) or you will get <15 FPS :( even though it looks very pretty..it's just not practical unfortunately
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy
Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:08:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Azulya
I tried everything in that topic but none of it will even work to run anti-aliasing with OR without HDR. I even tried disabling premium graphics but still no anti-aliasing whatsoever. I tried forcing it in ATI Tray Tools to 2, 4, and 6. None of it works at all.
Tried adaptive anti-aliasing and temporal anti-aliasing as well.. no luck with those, either.
Is it now impossible to enable ANY kind of anti-aliasing under ANY circumstances for EVE? I don't think I'm going to waste money renewing my subscription if there can't even be AA anymore.
Edit: Damn I can't even find the button to e-mail subscribe to the topic. Where is it??? =/ These forums are pretty messed up lately.
Well it must be something with your graphic driver then.
Normally it helps in 90% of the cases to reboot your computer. Because i know for a fact that the Catalyst driver can mess up in some ways and you can't get Anti-Aliasing whatever you do, until you reboot your computer. Then i will hopefully work, for you to, as long you haven't done it already.
Originally by: huxorator
Is there a way to have this fix working with Evelauncher? I am logged in with 2 windowed accounts all the time, so I need Evelauncher to position my windows - this will be a problem with a shortcut on my desktop, right?
Not sure about it with EVELauncher.
But about the shortcut icon to the EVE client with HDR. When you run that VBR script, the script will automaticly make you a new shortcut that you have to use with EVE when your running with HDR on.
If your thinking about the actually exe file that you need to run to be able to run EVE with HDR is located in the 'bin-hdr' folder in your main EVE folder where you have installed EVE. And in that folder you have to run the file that is called 'oblivion.exe'.
So not sure if you can choose what exe file you want to use in EVELauncher to get EVE to run there. But if you can, then just select that file in that folder to be the main exe file to that EVE profile.
Originally by: ZephyrLexx
I have an ATI HD4870 and while I can run on maximum settings 8x AA / HDR / Bloom / full shadows / 1690x1050 resolution, try playing with that in even a small fleet battle and your game will either crash due to having AA forced and the game not supporting it (see: xx page forum thread in tech sub-forum about the issue) or you will get <15 FPS :( even though it looks very pretty..it's just not practical unfortunately
Yes HDR is reducing your performance ALOT, so you need at least one Radeon HD4870X2 graphic card to run that with ok FPS. So i will not directly recommend you to use it in a fleet fight. It's ok to use it in missions and things like that.
Yes when the graphic card is having a hard time, then you can get crashes. It happens sometimes to me to, but not often. When my graphic card have used all of it's memory and the client sometimes just freezes, then EVE just quits it self. My graphic card is only an old Radeon X1900XT card though.
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Sententiae mortifera
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Posted - 2009.03.06 20:02:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Sententiae mortifera on 06/03/2009 20:03:53
Edited by: Sententiae mortifera on 06/03/2009 20:03:38
Edited by: Sententiae mortifera on 06/03/2009 20:03:11
I canŠt run the VBR Scropt, after putting in the Main Eve folder.
I did a screenshot:
link: http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/a2l8-2-jpg.html
So I hope you can help me :)
Sry my English is very bad :(
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy
Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.07 11:39:00 -
[59]
Edited by: NightmareX on 07/03/2009 11:41:23
Originally by: Sententiae mortifera
Edited by: Sententiae mortifera on 06/03/2009 20:03:53
Edited by: Sententiae mortifera on 06/03/2009 20:03:38
Edited by: Sententiae mortifera on 06/03/2009 20:03:11
I canŠt run the VBR Scropt, after putting in the Main Eve folder.
I did a screenshot:
link: http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/a2l8-2-jpg.html
So I hope you can help me :)
Sry my English is very bad :(
Ok, after searching a little about that kind of error, it seems that you might have a little problem with your Windows .
I can't directly say what the problem is, because it can be alot of things that can cause it.
If you just downloaded the script file and then placed it in the main EVE folder and then run it, then it should run and do what it's supposed to do.
If it doesn't do that, then you have an error somewhere in your Windows that have with those scripts to do.
More than that i can't tell atm.
But just for an update on the script. It seems that the script doesn't work right now after the QR expansion, so i think hat have to be looked into.
Will give some more updates here if i find anything out.
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Noix Arikani
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Posted - 2009.03.07 12:15:00 -
[60]
i am teh bumpin dis topic cause it is made of teh Vin
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NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.03.07 13:41:00 -
[61]
Oh i forgot to ask if any others here have this Anti-Aliasing + HDR script working now?, or is it only me that have the problem to get it to work now?.
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Missile Knubbel
Friends Of Harassment
United Pod Service
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Posted - 2009.05.21 12:37:00 -
[62]
have the same problem :(
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Doppleganger
Minmatar
Libera Mentem Tuam
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Posted - 2009.05.21 13:48:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Molly Mayhem
Originally by: Xechor
Confirmed cloak artifacts on a Visiontek HD 4870 X2. Little white balls and squares from any zoom. Kinda strange, but I don't mind.
I get those too, but since the no-AA jaggies are gone I consider it a fair trade.
I use to use that AA + HDR trick until I started running a cloaking ship a lot around wormholes.... those cloaking artifacts were driving me nuts so I dropped the AA.
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NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.05.21 14:00:00 -
[64]
Alright. It seems that the script need to be changed in some ways to be able to work now.
But i have no idea on how to change it to get it to work. So maybe we have to ask the guy who made this script to look into it or something.
Yeah, the script doesn't work for me at all now.
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Grez
Minmatar
Core Contingency
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.05.21 14:34:00 -
[65]
I hate to say it guys, but, it works by just setting it in CCC now. You don't need any fancy scripts.
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london
Gallente
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.21 22:59:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Grez
I hate to say it guys, but, it works by just setting it in CCC now. You don't need any fancy scripts.
Confirmed, it's been working for awhile now without the need for witch-craft.
BUT HDR on roids totally ****s my screen up with white blotches... they need to sort that out so it doesnt do that.
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Jaala Creed
Minmatar
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2009.05.25 12:20:00 -
[67]
Originally by: london
Originally by: Grez
I hate to say it guys, but, it works by just setting it in CCC now. You don't need any fancy scripts.
Confirmed, it's been working for awhile now without the need for witch-craft.
BUT HDR on roids totally ****s my screen up with white blotches... they need to sort that out so it doesnt do that.
Yeah, I got that as well with my 4870 card and asteroids. Before the last expansion, only cloacked ships had white artifacts sometimes.
Thats tolerable.. But now any asteroids that are on my screen are showered with round white circles that flicker on and off.
I really hope that the graphical department will be able to fix this.  |
Nocts
Minmatar
Sane Industries Inc.
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:35:00 -
[68]
Confirmed that CCC can do this just fine by forcing AA, allowing you to have AA+HRD.
To remove the glowing blobs/flickers in EVE turn off HDR for now, as that's the confirmed cause. |
Electric Universe
The Choir
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:11:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Electric Universe on 12/06/2009 12:15:29
Originally by: Grez
I hate to say it guys, but, it works by just setting it in CCC now. You don't need any fancy scripts.
I have to write for NightmareX here now because he's unable to post here on the forum atm.
Anyways. Yes, you don't need this script anylonger if you have a Radeon 4800 series card. Not sure if other cards in the 4000 series cards are working though.
It's confirmed that you can just use the Catalyst Control Center to adjust the Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filering to max if you want. This is with the v9.5 driver he have been testing this out with.
And then just start EVE and activate HDR ingame and it will work without the script when the Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filering is on max in the Catalyst Control Center.
There must be something AMD have done to their newest drivers because earlier we couldn't activate HDR without breaking the Anti-Aliasing.
Yes, NightmareX have the artifacts with the asteroids to. But then, he's not much in the asteroid belts on TQ. So it's not bothering him much. |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:22:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 12/06/2009 12:22:24
This was fixed several months ago by ATI. I guess spamming them with driver feature requests did pay off in the end.
All they really had to do was to change the name check of the .exe file so not only oblivion.exe get the driver to use the "Oblivion" settings but also for files named exefile.exe/eve.exe as well. |
Grez
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.05 13:20:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Grez on 05/08/2009 13:26:42
Anyone else getting issues with AA and odd black bars across the left side and top of the screen now?
Wondering if it's a driver issue :(.
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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.05 14:37:00 -
[72]
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't setting AA+AF manually in CCC mean it applies those settings to all games (or at least until you manually change profile)?
I don't want global AA/AF options because I play other games that are actually capable of setting them manually, and I have different settings depending on each game.
I also don't want to have to set a profile every time I want to play Eve (don't NVIDIA drivers automatically switch settings based on which game you play?).
So what's the solution here other than renaming the Eve executable to Oblivion.exe or whatever?
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Grez
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.05 20:51:00 -
[73]
Can't change name to OBlivion.exe anymore, so that's out (EVE won't run).
You can set profiles in the CCC like how NVidia does, only you get a shortcut on the desktop that you can run.
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Kurt Ambrose
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.05 21:24:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Kurt Ambrose on 05/08/2009 21:26:01
Originally by: Grez
Edited by: Grez on 05/08/2009 13:26:42
Anyone else getting issues with AA and odd black bars across the left side and top of the screen now?
Wondering if it's a driver issue :(.
from Nightmare X
Yes i have the same problem to that the black line pops up sometimes. But i'm not sure on what causing it. It's most likely the graphic driver.
PS. I'm not NightmareX, i'm posting for him because he's unable to post here for 19 more days
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NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 05:50:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Grez
Edited by: Grez on 05/08/2009 13:26:42
Anyone else getting issues with AA and odd black bars across the left side and top of the screen now?
Wondering if it's a driver issue :(.
This thing still comes up from time to time with ATI Catalyst Software Suite v9.8 for Windows 7 for me.
It's kinda bad if your frapsing a fight and then this thing happens .
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NightmareX
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.15 16:59:00 -
[76]
The problem with the black bar on top of the screen is something that comes if we encounter a graphic bug. Like now, now my screen can be 100% normal, until i warp into a belt.
Because with AA and HDR on the same time, you will get those white circles that are blinking on the asteroids, and the first thing that happens when i warp into a belt where the white circle bug are, then i instantly get the black bar on top of the screen.
So as i think it is, then i think you will get that bug when you comes over another graphic bug.
But ofc, correct me if i'm wrong.
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Speedhacker
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Posted - 2009.12.14 18:48:00 -
[77]
Is there any better way to turn on AA with HDR on ATI cards? This method is awful...
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