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CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2008.11.21 18:49:00 - [1] Recently, some of our players have experienced performance issues in EVE. As this impaired the player experience and enjoyment of those affected, we consider these issues to be critical. To make sure the weekend is as enjoyable as possible for all players, we went into overdrive and are deploying a patch this Saturday, 22 November. The patch will require an extended downtime starting at 11:00 GMT and we expect to be back up at 13:00 GMT. During this downtime a portion of EVE Online: Quantum Rise 1.0.1 will be deployed and patch notes are available for your perusal. This patch contains the performance fixes from the originally planned 1.0.1 patch. We will continue to work on other issues that have been found and will deploy those in an upcoming patch which will be released within the next two weeks.

Stric Dusko	Posted - 2008.11.21 19:01:00 - [2] Edited by: Stric Dusko on 21/11/2008 19:02:01 1st. cool, looking forward to the improvements, the lag's been annoying. edit: so, no announced changes to eve-mail in this patch?
Isaak eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.21 19:04:00 - [3] o7 Thanks for the quick resolution guys, here's hoping everything goes well.
Spurty Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.21 19:06:00 - [4] ah i was kinda enjoying being unable to see stations, gates and my own ship
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.11.21 19:07:00 - [5] Glad to sdee that the mail changes that were brought up in a previous dev blog are not as yet going through. I would also like to thank the upgrade crew for coming in on a Saturday to make the game that much smoother.

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2008.11.21 19:15:00 - [6] Originally by: Stric Dusko so, no announced changes to eve-mail in this patch? This patch only contains performance fixes from the originally planned 1.0.1 patch. Other changes will be released later/soon as 1.0.2.

SPIONKOP Caldari Warp Core Tech	Posted - 2008.11.21 19:34:00 - [7] I remember the last saturday patch all those years ago The one time you had to roll back. But at least you gave us 4000 playes the grand sum of 100,000 isk. Good Luck.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.11.21 20:01:00 - [8] Oh good. Nice turnaround. _____________________ My opinions plus a tablespoon of water may be substituted for your own.
Grarr Dexx Amarr The Cosa Nostra La Cosa Nostra Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.21 20:03:00 - [9] Suh-weet.
Traxio Nacho Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.11.21 20:08:00 - [10] Hopefully this will fix the problem fingers crossed Well done to CCP for finding a solution so quickly

Krimishkev	Posted - 2008.11.21 20:12:00 - [11] I knew it was a memory leak, every time I warped back into a loaded grid, it would get slower and slower. GJ CCP, the test server yesterday seemed MUCH better.
L0nz0p Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2008.11.21 20:15:00 - [12] ty ccp! lets hope it will works! :D
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.11.21 20:45:00 - [13] Quote: Fixed performance issues that would occur when loading a scene when running 2 or more clients at the same time, such as when docking. Is this that bug where sometimes, you get a white background on one client, and both stutter at 3-4 frames per second? ------------------------------------------
omgdutch2005 Gallente Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group.	Posted - 2008.11.21 20:51:00 - [14] i had some stuttering sometimes too at 3-5 fps then it went ok afther a while, good to see fixes are comming you know what they say, people appreatiacte things getting fixed, and dislike seeing stuff getting broken and the like :P :) omgdutch2005
Ishimaru Shun Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.21 20:53:00 - [15] I really hope the memory leak is handled correctly. I have filed a bug report with a screen shot of my Task Manager. It showed that exefile.exe was using nearly 1.5 GB of RAM (Classic Windowed). This was only with a Classic client after 1 hour of play. I have yet to use Premium because of these gross oversights with memory management in the client. Slightly off topic: Will CCP ever offer a native 64-bit client for those that run 64-bit OS systems? This would require them to be more aggressive with their memory management. I would hate to watch a 64-bit version using 4GB or more because of a "kitchen sink" memory leak.
Dal Thrax Multiverse Corporation Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.11.21 20:53:00 - [16] Can we get some comment about the apparent lack of damage on some DDD activations. Is this feature working as intended or a bug? Dal Originally by: HEXXX In all seriousness; I think I made a miscalculation originally. . . We either need to fix this or fix our advertising.
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2008.11.21 20:56:00 - [17] Originally by: Ishimaru Shun Slightly off topic: Will CCP ever offer a native 64-bit client for those that run 64-bit OS systems? This would require them to be more aggressive with their memory management. I would hate to watch a 64-bit version using 4GB or more because of a "kitchen sink" memory leak. Same question was asked when they announced the change to 64bit server software. Dev response was that the client has a lot of third party 32bit tech holding the client back. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Ishimaru Shun Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.21 20:59:00 - [18] Originally by: Washell Olivaw Originally by: Ishimaru Shun Slightly off topic: Will CCP ever offer a native 64-bit client for those that run 64-bit OS systems? This would require them to be more aggressive with their memory management. I would hate to watch a 64-bit version using 4GB or more because of a "kitchen sink" memory leak. Same question was asked when they announced the change to 64bit server software. Dev response was that the client has a lot of third party 32bit tech holding the client back. Thanks. I must have missed that post during my search.

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2008.11.21 21:24:00 - [19] Originally by: Ishimaru Shun Thanks. I must have missed that post during my search. You didn't find me? Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.11.21 21:27:00 - [20] That's a lot of crtitical pbs there, ccp. Did you find most of QR's issues ? Fetchez la vache !

therealdhs	Posted - 2008.11.21 21:45:00 - [21] Sounds good, hope it goes well! -------- Bender: Ahhh, what an awful dream. Ones and zeroes everywhere... and I thought I saw a two. Fry: Don't worry, Bender: there's no such thing as two.
Erin Holoborg	Posted - 2008.11.21 21:53:00 - [22] Will our missing faction standings reappear? The first petition response was exceptionally lame.

CCP Gangleri Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.21 22:33:00 - [23] Originally by: Erin Holoborg Will our missing faction standings reappear? The first petition response was exceptionally lame. If you are referring to corporation standings not updating correctly then I can confirm that has already been resolved. It was hotfixed a few days ago and all corp standings should now be updating correctly. Note however that the calculations for corp standings were changed in Quantum Rise.

Jonathan Calvert Minmatar Empire Mining and Trade	Posted - 2008.11.21 22:41:00 - [24] Could really use that multi drag to hangar bug fixed.

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2008.11.21 22:49:00 - [25] Originally by: Jonathan Calvert Could really use that multi drag to hangar bug fixed. Which bug? Please be more specific Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Pwnzorator	Posted - 2008.11.21 22:51:00 - [26] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Recently, some of our players have experienced performance issues in EVE. As this impaired the player experience and enjoyment of those affected, we consider these issues to be critical. And of course, you'll be extending by 11 days the accounts of those of us who haven't been able to play due to these performance issues? QA is expensive, but mass refunds are more expensive. Bear this in mind for the next expansion.
Cylab	Posted - 2008.11.21 23:11:00 - [27] "To make sure the weekend is as enjoyable as possible for all players, we went into overdrive and are deploying a patch this Saturday, 22 November" if you want to make the weekend enjoyable for all players why you deploying it on Saturday??? That does exactly the opposite.
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2008.11.21 23:23:00 - [28] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Jonathan Calvert Could really use that multi drag to hangar bug fixed. Which bug? Please be more specific bug #3,678,547,456,897
YannZeGeek	Posted - 2008.11.21 23:37:00 - [29] Any intent to solve with 1.0.1 these very frequent disconnections some of us are experiencing since QR?
IlluminatedOne Amarr Tycho Brahe Fan Club	Posted - 2008.11.21 23:39:00 - [30] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Jonathan Calvert Could really use that multi drag to hangar bug fixed. Which bug? Please be more specific I guess he says about this issue.

Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.11.21 23:40:00 - [31] This kind of weekend patch is the pro-active behavior that has long been missing from CCP. Welcome back. Originally by: CCP Gangleri Note however that the calculations for corp standings were changed in Quantum Rise. Could this be clarified? This is the first words about this that I can recall. And simple words and terms are ideal for me.
HotSeat Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.21 23:47:00 - [32] Any chance the selected item's icon bug is fixed as well? hard to PVP when you icon keep changing size, position, and sometime double row'n

CCP Fallout	Posted - 2008.11.21 23:48:00 - [33] This is from the patch notes: Quote: Various database improvements have been added to allow for optimization of the game engine. These improvements will allow the client to provide a smoother gaming experience for players. This includes changes to Corporation standings which are calculated during downtime. Of course Explorer and others could comment further on the changes :)

Childe Twilight	Posted - 2008.11.21 23:53:00 - [34] Okay, kudos to CCP for acting quickly on an issue that is obviously affecting the gameplay experience for a number of people. I am very tired of the disregard for Asia/Pacific players in the timing, however. Regular downtime is right in the middle of prime playing time for east-coast Australia: 9pm ordinarily, or 10pm in daylight savings times. This patch deployment will be from 10 pm to 12 pm Saturday night - one of the very few times I have to play for an extended period. CCP, it would be greatly appreciated if consideration could be given to an alternate time for the regular downtime. I appreciate that the relative number of players from each geographical location needs to be weighed up, but Australia is always the short end of this particular stick. Surely there's a time that would be in non-peak for Europe, America and Australia simultaneously?

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2008.11.21 23:58:00 - [35] Originally by: HotSeat Any chance the selected item's icon bug is fixed as well? hard to PVP when you icon keep changing size, position, and sometime double row'n It's been very difficult to reproduce this issue but we believe that the fixes tomorrow in 1.0.1 on its own or in combination with a fix that will be deployed in 1.0.2 later will fix it. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Tobin Shalim Vulcan Foundry OPUS Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 00:01:00 - [36] Are you fixing missiles in the next patch? ----- Originally by: Haakkon I feel a great deal of patriotism at being a part of Goonswarm. We've accomplished great things... we're just mainly jerks about it

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2008.11.22 00:02:00 - [37] Edited by: CCP Explorer on 22/11/2008 00:02:25 Originally by: CCP Fallout This is from the patch notes: Quote: Various database improvements have been added to allow for optimization of the game engine. These improvements will allow the client to provide a smoother gaming experience for players. This includes changes to Corporation standings which are calculated during downtime. Of course Explorer and others could comment further on the changes :) See this dev blog, look for the paragraph starting with "One in particular that we've worked on is a procedure handling corporation faction standings". Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2008.11.22 00:04:00 - [38] Originally by: Shar Tegral This kind of weekend patch is the pro-active behavior that has long been missing from CCP. Welcome back. Originally by: CCP Gangleri Note however that the calculations for corp standings were changed in Quantum Rise. Could this be clarified? This is the first words about this that I can recall. And simple words and terms are ideal for me. The average standing of all people in your corp for more than seven days is instantly applied as corp standing. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
John'eh	Posted - 2008.11.22 00:33:00 - [39] You gotta love when a company chooses the one time you get to play to shut down the entire system, all to fix bugs that would have been found before ship had they invested in competent and qualified test engineers instead of depending on a mix of so-called 'agile development' and 'it compiles with only a few warnings, ship it to sisi for alpha testing!'. No.. not really. I see things like this as failure on CCP's part. If CCP's quality control practices used actual industry standard best practices, they would have known about the memory leaks as soon as the BVT's that checked for them failed when the dev checked in his code and triggered a new run of the build. The test engineers would have seen it in there daily test cases for play testing, and the SDETS who work in test but code tools to break the product wuld have been able the give you a per-interface count of the memory malloc()'ed verses the memory free()'ed, with the full list of pointers leaked so you can know the order on top of it, since you should know what endian your hardware is and be able to know that too. I am of course, speaking as a developer myself. Consider this some constructive, professional feedback on the quality of your product, and keep in mind I pay for my account like anybody else before you get mad at me for saying this.
Childe Twilight	Posted - 2008.11.22 00:44:00 - [40] Originally by: John'eh You gotta love when a company chooses the one time you get to play to shut down the entire system, all to fix bugs that would have been found before ship Well said. Originally by: John'eh The test engineers would have seen it in there daily test cases for play testing, and the SDETS who work in test but code tools to break the product wuld have been able the give you a per-interface count of the memory malloc()'ed verses the memory free()'ed, with the full list of pointers leaked so you can know the order on top of it, since you should know what endian your hardware is and be able to know that too. Err. If I had a clue what that meant, I would applaud it also. I think.

NightmareX D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.22 01:25:00 - [41] Edited by: NightmareX on 22/11/2008 01:26:02 Originally by: Tobin Shalim Are you fixing missiles in the next patch? Uhm, the missiles just got fixed in the Quantum Rise expansion you smartass. Anyways, keep up the good work CCP. Luckily i haven't been hit so much with the performance issues and Memory Leak on TQ though, so i have nothing to whine about. Check out my new flash web page 'Alpha Strike'
Odhinn Vinlandii Gothic Fleet	Posted - 2008.11.22 01:33:00 - [42] Edited by: Odhinn Vinlandii on 22/11/2008 01:34:09 Originally by: HotSeat Any chance the selected item's icon bug is fixed as well? hard to PVP when you icon keep changing size, position, and sometime double row'n This has been happening since before trinity. It's especially bad during FW plexing. ..so many npcs and reds while orbiting makes the whole overview jump around wildly when the selection action icons change size or clone upto 3 times.. I've had upto 4 rows of icons at times which caused my overview to move left 3 inches and bugged out my drone window.
Odhinn Vinlandii Gothic Fleet	Posted - 2008.11.22 01:43:00 - [43] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Jonathan Calvert Could really use that multi drag to hangar bug fixed. Which bug? Please be more specific The one that prevents you from dragging more than one item to anywhere else and then makes you have to relog to unlock the busy objects.
Burrito Sabanero Minmatar Quatidion Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2008.11.22 01:48:00 - [44] Hope, i can now switch ships in a SMA without eve crashing... Also, after some hour playing i get black screens ever other minute for around 5 seconds, sucks in fleet battle, especially when you camp a gate and you can't target, because eve decides to "think about it" for 5 or more seconds...
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2008.11.22 01:51:00 - [45] Edited by: Washell Olivaw on 22/11/2008 01:53:19 Originally by: John'eh No.. not really. I see things like this as failure on CCP's part. If CCP's quality control practices used actual industry standard best practices, they would have known about the memory leaks as soon as the BVT's that checked for them failed when the dev checked in his code and triggered a new run of the build. The test engineers would have seen it in there daily test cases for play testing, and the SDETS who work in test but code tools to break the product wuld have been able the give you a per-interface count of the memory malloc()'ed verses the memory free()'ed, with the full list of pointers leaked so you can know the order on top of it, since you should know what endian your hardware is and be able to know that too. Because the 10 or so ships you encounter in a test environment have the exact same end result as the hundreds you encounter in either a fleet battle or 45 to 60 minutes of playing... Some bugs are only obvious when 40k people are hammering the software. Edit: they may even have done all you said, spotted the bug and figured it could be fixed later. Not realizing it would be a more serious bug in the live environment. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Dr Bang	Posted - 2008.11.22 02:50:00 - [46] Will this fix the problems experienced when grouping weapons, like increased lag and objects in space disappearing?
Rosalina Sarinna Aliastra	Posted - 2008.11.22 03:15:00 - [47] Thanks for the updates CCP! As for you guys going on about QA, please have an understanding that QA is not the same as a full deployment (which then reveals bugs not found in QA). Its totally unfair to have a go at the QA people who are no doubt working their socks off every day. I know what I'm talking about as I was a QA tester at a Microsoft Game Studio for a short time.
John'eh	Posted - 2008.11.22 03:31:00 - [48] Edited by: John''eh on 22/11/2008 03:33:22 Originally by: Washell Olivaw Because the 10 or so ships you encounter in a test environment have the exact same end result as the hundreds you encounter in either a fleet battle or 45 to 60 minutes of playing... They could be. They have enough statitistical data from data-gathering on production (or they should, since every other game does) that creating a few thousand Mock objects's using test automation that both agreed with the data and also (and some could say more importantly) disagreed with it (for bounds testing, etc) while keeping to the interface contracts should not be a 'hard' task. Unless of course they dont care about quality and don't invest in basic, unit test friendly code. Originally by: Washell Olivaw Some bugs are only obvious when 40k people are hammering the software. Thats why you have a seperate stress enviorment set up with loads of automation running week soak's on the last production build as hard as you can, and validate the ship by soaking it before shipping the code to Production. Originally by: Washell Olivaw Edit: they may even have done all you said, spotted the bug and figured it could be fixed later. Not realizing it would be a more serious bug in the live environment. Valid, but only if you dont take into account that memory leaks are always considered a top priority by anybody who knows what they are doing, and IMHO any competent developer will express physical pain when such an issue is found in his code until it is fixed if he really cares about his code. Additionaly, if a Test Engineer knew about it but didnt say anything or file a bug to be triaged at the daily scrum becouse "it was not a big issue" then I would personaly fire that test enginneer for not doing his job. Then again, based on what I have heard said in the dev chats and so forth, they use an agile, sprint based methology like 'scrum' and dont invest in test engineers or dedicated developers who work only with the test team.. like I noted above. If I'm wrong, I would love to hear CCP say so... but then that would mean the QA guys dropped the ball and possible have no clue what they are doing. Its not personal, I'm sure they are all great people, but I'm just calling it as I see it and I see epic failure. Oh, and BTW I got Microsoft creds too.. so lets not get into an e-peen war.
Gasper	Posted - 2008.11.22 03:34:00 - [49] People will quit complaining when they roll into a fleet battle with 1000 people and experience it with very little lag. Imagine no lag 500 vs 500. I quit Eve ages ago and im back to see the lag free version. If they don't get it all this time at least that is where there current focus is. Without lag this game will get back a huge portion of the players who quit.
Rivur'Tam Fatality.	Posted - 2008.11.22 03:55:00 - [50] LMAO at the winers of the dt/patch times Do you really think that ccp should change the time because it upsets your playing time. That is worst whine i ever heard, why should they change the dt time after 5 years. .. I like teh secs and teh boobies

Persepoli	Posted - 2008.11.22 04:09:00 - [51] Good to see that CCP continues to treat it's player base in the southern parts of the world with utter comtempt, just to salve the whining of a few with rubbish systems. /me golf clap.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.22 04:15:00 - [52] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: HotSeat Any chance the selected item's icon bug is fixed as well? hard to PVP when you icon keep changing size, position, and sometime double row'n It's been very difficult to reproduce this issue but we believe that the fixes tomorrow in 1.0.1 on its own or in combination with a fix that will be deployed in 1.0.2 later will fix it. if its the same build as is now on the test server, it seems to have been fixed (for me anyway) and I was getting it a LOT
Zendoren Aktaeon Industries United Star Federation	Posted - 2008.11.22 05:19:00 - [53] Will this Patch have the IGB fix in it? had a GM tell me that you guys found the problem and ya'll are working on it. -++
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2008.11.22 05:23:00 - [54] As to the little back and forth on development ... Most gaming companies aren't going to invest the time and resources into bullet proofing a game that go into a mission critical application. Yes. I was surprised they had memory leaks too as there are a number of 3rd party products that will check for that ... Maybe they'll think about making a little investment there after this ... But on the subject of stress testing an application that requires a great deal of user input ... you really need a full blown simulator for that and ... having worked on such a simulator ... I can tell you that it had a development process that was a substantial percentage of the size and cost of the application it was testing. Most gaming companies would vastly prefer to use their customer base to stress test their product to incurring such an expense. Yes we're each investing a whopping $15 US (or so) per month but that's nothing like applications where peoples very lives are at stake. Screw up and get people killed and ... suddenly ... really expensive testing equipment and personnel ... don't seem so expensive any more. (Look at all the trouble Rodney McKay is in as I write these very words!!! LOL!!!) Now ... as to "best practices" ... I've always hated that term. It's ... pretty much a buzz word. There's an inherent assumption that there is this one set of "best practices" that fit all (which managers oh so eagerly want to believe sigh) - when there isn't. Sorry but ... I've had so much TQM and ... to summarize it all ... "Special High Intensity Training" (the insiders will get the joke) ... that I could vomit. Oh God! The fortunes that were lavished upon that (for those who didn't get the joke) S.H.I.T to no useful purpose ... all by very, very bright people with the best of intentions ... sigh I will agree however that testing for memory leaks is - a good idea. LOL!!!!!! Faction Schools Orbiting vs. Kiting
Franga Gristle Industries	Posted - 2008.11.22 06:13:00 - [55] Originally by: Rivur'Tam LMAO at the winers of the dt/patch times Do you really think that ccp should change the time because it upsets your playing time. That is worst whine i ever heard, why should they change the dt time after 5 years. It's actually a very valid whine when it affects one of the few times you can play. I'm gonna go ahead and guess that you're an American and DT has never ever bothered you because it's at a time of day over that most people aren't generally playing. I, for one, don't support the time of DT being changed, but for us, this extended patch is Saturday night, not Saturday morning. It's no wonder we whine. ----------
Debrue Gallente Brix Interstellar Services	Posted - 2008.11.22 06:48:00 - [56] After reading the forums for the past week that identified the same type of problems I was experiencing, I want to thank you for diligently reading those posts and implementing some attempt at solving our concerns. Thank you. This Universe is so dynamic, I can wait a couple hours before going back for the time of my life. The whiners can go somewhere else..... Debrue
Driven Caldari Mass Produced Venturi Starea	Posted - 2008.11.22 06:53:00 - [57] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Jonathan Calvert Could really use that multi drag to hangar bug fixed. Which bug? Please be more specific when you try to drag more than one item out of your ship cargo into a corp hangar - nothing moves. You have to move items one at a time. Moving multiple items does not work. That's what he means. An emptying a freighter is a royal pain in the ass now. I need a sig
Childe Twilight	Posted - 2008.11.22 07:21:00 - [58] Originally by: Rivur'Tam LMAO at the winers of the dt/patch times Do you really think that ccp should change the time because it upsets your playing time. That is worst whine i ever heard, why should they change the dt time after 5 years. Applause for the post most utterly devoid of merit. No-one ever whinges about CCP fixing something that doesn't affect them personally but is an issue for others. It's a resounding "meh" of indifference if unaffected. And yes, if it affects my playing experience badly enough, I'll quit, as would anyone that was having an unsatisfactory gaming experience, so I do expect CCP to address it if enough of my countrymen speak up and register their dissatisfaction also, because - HELLO! - it could mean loss of revenue for them. Twit. So thanks for the worst ever, "I tossed it off without thinking because I'm a smug adolescent git" post filled with spelling errors and sub-moronic reasoning ability. You fail at basic... everything.
dojocan81	Posted - 2008.11.22 09:37:00 - [59] Are you going to fix the BCU bug ? ID 65841
Warrior Crash Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.22 10:02:00 - [60] Edited by: Warrior Crash on 22/11/2008 10:03:15 reason the last patch went wrong was because it wasnt being tested log enough and the fact that so much was added in 1 hit good thing is when i get home from work this afternoon it should be fixed


CCP Explorer	Posted - 2008.11.22 10:12:00 - [61] Originally by: Washell Olivaw Thank you for your bug report. Your report ID is 65747 Originally by: IlluminatedOne I guess he says about this issue. Bug report 65747 has not been filtered but other bug reports in that thread (65763, 65781, 65834) are attached to defects that have been resolved internally and are pending deployment. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

slothe Caldari Murky Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.22 10:12:00 - [62] yay

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2008.11.22 10:13:00 - [63] Originally by: Dr Bang Will this fix the problems experienced when grouping weapons, like increased lag and objects in space disappearing? Yes. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games


CCP Explorer	Posted - 2008.11.22 10:15:00 - [64] Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: HotSeat Any chance the selected item's icon bug is fixed as well? hard to PVP when you icon keep changing size, position, and sometime double row'n It's been very difficult to reproduce this issue but we believe that the fixes tomorrow in 1.0.1 on its own or in combination with a fix that will be deployed in 1.0.2 later will fix it. if its the same build as is now on the test server, it seems to have been fixed (for me anyway) and I was getting it a LOT Yes, it's the same build as is currently on Singularity. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games


CCP Explorer	Posted - 2008.11.22 10:18:00 - [65] Originally by: Zendoren Will this Patch have the IGB fix in it? had a GM tell me that you guys found the problem and ya'll are working on it. The patch notes for 1.0.1 are comprehensive. If you are referring to forms and form fields within tables being broken in IGB, then that has been fixed internally and is pending deployment. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Setnom	Posted - 2008.11.22 10:43:00 - [66] Originally by: CCP Wrangler As this impaired the player experience and enjoyment of those affected, we consider these issues to be critical. No native AA support impairs my experience and enjoyment, so why is this issue not critical to CCP? Add it already!
Kravek Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN	Posted - 2008.11.22 11:10:00 - [67] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Zendoren Will this Patch have the IGB fix in it? had a GM tell me that you guys found the problem and ya'll are working on it. The patch notes for 1.0.1 are comprehensive. If you are referring to forms and form fields within tables being broken in IGB, then that has been fixed internally and is pending deployment. What about IGB performance loss? Yours friendly Combat Boosters supplier!
Eagle Wolf	Posted - 2008.11.22 11:11:00 - [68] is there going to be a fix to the probs with corp hangers in carriers taking 3 to .................. minutes to load happening soon I hope!!!!!
Tasty Bit Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2008.11.22 11:20:00 - [69] Well, it's been about a week since the last patch, so I guess it was overdue. /me sighs
David Grogan Gallente Crusaders of the Darkstar Freedom Force.	Posted - 2008.11.22 11:33:00 - [70] CCP will the annoying chat text type box error be fixed? it error is where when u are typing a message in chat the text aligns vertical rather than the correct horizontal way the error looks like this in the chat box i h a v e a n e r r o r w i t h t h i s c h a t t y p e b o x

Lee ChanKa Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.22 11:38:00 - [71] gj i wait for this wish you luck just remove lag...
David Grogan Gallente Crusaders of the Darkstar Freedom Force.	Posted - 2008.11.22 11:42:00 - [72] also looking forward to seeing the end of the memory leak........it cripples my poor old dell inspiron 8200 laptop after 30 mins of play
Lucia Warbler Infinite Frontiers	Posted - 2008.11.22 11:48:00 - [73] Originally by: Franga It's actually a very valid whine when it affects one of the few times you can play. I'm gonna go ahead and guess that you're an American and DT has never ever bothered you because it's at a time of day over that most people aren't generally playing. Quite, but necessary evil for a single shard server. They have to have the downtime sometime and it's obviously going to be bad for someone when people from all around the world are playing. I would play now if it wasn't for downtime, but I'm not whining because it is pointless and CCP isn't going to change the downtime. It doesn't make sense to change it. That would just switch the whines from one timezone to another (quite possibly creating even more whines).
Saphyrie Minmatar Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:05:00 - [74] Originally by: David Grogan Edited by: David Grogan on 22/11/2008 11:36:47 Edited by: David Grogan on 22/11/2008 11:36:31 Edited by: David Grogan on 22/11/2008 11:35:35 CCP will the annoying chat text type box error be fixed? it error is where when u are typing a message in chat the text aligns vertical rather than the correct horizontal way This happens to me a lot, too. Always seems to happen right after I join a fleet.
doomdpanic1984	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:15:00 - [75] omg... i didnt even notice any problems my computer played like always smooth and clear even near stations where 100+ ships fly in and out ... wel ye :S hope that it works for you guys
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:16:00 - [76] Whilst Im happy CCP does this I hate loosing training time over this as a result of not knowing this was going to happen. - - - Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...
Archangel Teodora	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:21:00 - [77] Edited by: Archangel Teodora on 22/11/2008 12:23:48 Guys please fix lag in 0.0,its killing us like mad thanks for fixing some imp things but lag is in my opp biggest prob. when we enter local with 500 ppl there is lag minute or longer so the loaded one had huge advantage....
Archangel Teodora	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:22:00 - [78] Edited by: Archangel Teodora on 22/11/2008 12:22:34 Originally by: David Grogan Edited by: David Grogan on 22/11/2008 11:36:47 Edited by: David Grogan on 22/11/2008 11:36:31 Edited by: David Grogan on 22/11/2008 11:35:35 CCP will the annoying chat text type box error be fixed? it error is where when u are typing a message in chat the text aligns vertical rather than the correct horizontal way the error looks like this in the chat box i h a v e a n e r r o r w i t h t h i s c h a t t y p e b o x note this doesnt occur 100% of the time but it does occur often if it occurs again after patch is deployed ill try screen cap it and post it on here just press enter and it will work ok same like u linking item or w/e
indupro	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:25:00 - [79] i thought the server would be back up but now but i am getting a incompatible protocal message
Ocean Jones	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:31:00 - [80] Originally by: indupro i thought the server would be back up but now but i am getting a incompatible protocal message time of your post: 12.25 advertised extended downtime to apply patch :11:00- 13:00 patience young padwan!

Tital	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:32:00 - [81] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Recently, some of our players have experienced performance issues in EVE. As this impaired the player experience and enjoyment of those affected, we consider these issues to be critical. You're fixing the screw ups made to blasters and drones in QR?? Woot! Oh :(
Tital	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:34:00 - [82] Originally by: John'eh You gotta love when a company chooses the one time you get to play to shut down the entire system, all to fix bugs that would have been found before ship had they invested in competent and qualified test engineers instead of depending on a mix of so-called 'agile development' and 'it compiles with only a few warnings, ship it to sisi for alpha testing!'. No.. not really. I see things like this as failure on CCP's part. If CCP's quality control practices used actual industry standard best practices, they would have known about the memory leaks as soon as the BVT's that checked for them failed when the dev checked in his code and triggered a new run of the build. The test engineers would have seen it in there daily test cases for play testing, and the SDETS who work in test but code tools to break the product wuld have been able the give you a per-interface count of the memory malloc()'ed verses the memory free()'ed, with the full list of pointers leaked so you can know the order on top of it, since you should know what endian your hardware is and be able to know that too. I am of course, speaking as a developer myself. Consider this some constructive, professional feedback on the quality of your product, and keep in mind I pay for my account like anybody else before you get mad at me for saying this.
Mon Kiera Caldari Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:35:00 - [83] Where can I download the patch. The client doesn't do it automatically?
Gentle Wind	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:39:00 - [84] Originally by: Lucia Warbler Originally by: Franga It's actually a very valid whine when it affects one of the few times you can play. I'm gonna go ahead and guess that you're an American and DT has never ever bothered you because it's at a time of day over that most people aren't generally playing. Quite, but necessary evil for a single shard server. Entropia Universe is a single shard MMO that used to have daily downtimes but no longer does. So, it is not a necessary evil. There seems to be some way around it.
Cubus	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:43:00 - [85] Good to hear that it wasn't just me experiencing disappearing models and an overdose of lag ;) But while I appreciate any improvements to the game, I'd prefer them not to be done on a saturday. I imagine that the tech guys would agree with me right now :P "Control the media, control the mind"
Frodo Nosebag Caldari Asylum for Lost and Exiled Souls	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:44:00 - [86] I notice the issue with d/t has been raised. I petitioned CCP about this a few months ago and asked if it could be changed maybe every 3-4 months by 6 hours. This would rotate the d/t and allow the inconvenience to be shared instead of always hitting the same players. Their response was unsympathetic so I don't envision a change anytime soon. This is an inconvenience to players when anything you're doing needs to be planned with d/t in mind, for those who never experience this problem you can have no idea how this cramps your playing style.
Tital	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:48:00 - [87] Originally by: Gentle Wind Originally by: Lucia Warbler Originally by: Franga It's actually a very valid whine when it affects one of the few times you can play. I'm gonna go ahead and guess that you're an American and DT has never ever bothered you because it's at a time of day over that most people aren't generally playing. Quite, but necessary evil for a single shard server. Entropia Universe is a single shard MMO that used to have daily downtimes but no longer does. So, it is not a necessary evil. There seems to be some way around it. "Time is an illusion, lunchtime [or 11am] doubly so"
stormmoon	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:49:00 - [88] i am glad that other players have had the problem of the client slowing down as i have just brought a new pc and upgrade to the better game.i thought there was something wrong with my pc. if i got into a fleet with 10 or more players the lag would be very bad so hopfully this will sort it out well done ccp :)
Ocean Jones	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:51:00 - [89] An illusion? well there are only so many pan-galactic gargle blasters you can drink on a saturday morning! I have to wonder why patch on saturday and not during the week when most are at work/college/school/restaurants at the end of the universe.
Wooden Chair	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:52:00 - [90] Its so nice to see that the memory issue was indeed not my fault, i was losing my hair. it was worse for me though, the memory leak was so bad it was causing my memory to just choke and do a physical dump. IE: bsod + reboot + lost battle cruiser The only thing now is, its almost 2 hours past patch point, and maybe i missed it, but my client is not updating. just sits there and says incompatible protocol this is not how i want to spend my first Saturday off in 2 months.

annoing Fallen Angel's	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:54:00 - [91] Originally by: Childe Twilight Originally by: Rivur'Tam LMAO at the winers of the dt/patch times Do you really think that ccp should change the time because it upsets your playing time. That is worst whine i ever heard, why should they change the dt time after 5 years. Applause for the post most utterly devoid of merit. No-one ever whinges about CCP fixing something that doesn't affect them personally but is an issue for others. It's a resounding "meh" of indifference if unaffected. And yes, if it affects my playing experience badly enough, I'll quit, as would anyone that was having an unsatisfactory gaming experience, so I do expect CCP to address it if enough of my countrymen speak up and register their dissatisfaction also, because - HELLO! - it could mean loss of revenue for them. Twit. So thanks for the worst ever, "I tossed it off without thinking because I'm a smug adolescent git" post filled with spelling errors and sub-moronic reasoning ability. You fail at basic... everything. Actually, your original post complaining about the DT gets the Applause for the post most utterly devoid of merit, and your reply isnt much better. Typed like a true child whose dummy has fallen out. Believe it or not, the servers are based in the UK. So, unless you think that CCP should pay for the server engineers to start at 2am Uk time, just so you can get the dt times that YOU feel should suit you, I suggest you keep your whine to yourself. I play mostly during daylight hours so this affects me, the Yanks are asleep so it suits them, you are, unfortunately, 10 hours ahead so it REALLY affects you. Sorry about that, but thats time zones for you. But like I said, why should CCP change something to suit you and a couple of thousand other Aussie players? Dont like it? Either leave (can I haz youz stuff?) or move (we dont want you back anyway, damn colonials ) or stfu and stop whining like a baby. This IS a critical patch. The memory leak was a desperate issue for many players,really affecting their game more than you having to suffer an extra hours dt. Most players with the leak couldnt play for an hour before the game got to much to bear. I applaud CCP for dealing with this issue so quickly and decisively, so well done them.
VEnGenCcE	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:54:00 - [92] Im wondering, an know that its probably been mentioned before but will CCP be adding a server status to the website/forums so that we can see the current status and perhaps the game time. Think it would be useful tool so you dont get all the confusion about the time.... Plus it helps some people from running the client all the time to check and see.... thanks dev's
10c41h0r53	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:54:00 - [93] Originally by: Wooden Chair The only thing now is, its almost 2 hours past patch point, and maybe i missed it, but my client is not updating. just sits there and says incompatible protocol Still too early.
Chimii Lecto Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:54:00 - [94] How come nobody saw all these rather significant issues before deploying it to TQ? ---------- /Pretty Posting.
Ocean Jones	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:55:00 - [95] Originally by: Wooden Chair Its so nice to see that the memory issue was indeed not my fault, i was losing my hair. it was worse for me though, the memory leak was so bad it was causing my memory to just choke and do a physical dump. IE: bsod + reboot + lost battle cruiser The only thing now is, its almost 2 hours past patch point, and maybe i missed it, but my client is not updating. just sits there and says incompatible protocol this is not how i want to spend my first Saturday off in 2 months. 2hours....my clock says 12:54 at the moment? but yes hurry up as i am getting bored spaming forums while i wait !!!
Glane Sardar	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:56:00 - [96] Pity this thread could not have been made more obvious, just downloaded the client via the bit torrent thing, my evemon has been telling me for the past hour that eve is working, but that my client is not compatible, now I find out that the server is down for longer than usual
Angel Lightbringer Caldari Dark Evolution Industries	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:56:00 - [97] Originally by: Chimii Lecto How come nobody saw all these rather significant issues before deploying it to TQ? Enlighten me, really. How is new code applied to the live server exactly? If it was obvious on Singularity, testers would have seen it, right? They, as the whiners they are, would have poster HERE, BEFORE the expansion was available, right? Lighten up... -Angel
Angel Lightbringer Caldari Dark Evolution Industries	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:58:00 - [98] Originally by: Glane Sardar ...my evemon has been telling me for the past hour that eve is working, but that my client is not compatible, now I find out that the server is down for longer than usual Maybe CCP should work something out with EVEMon devs and provide MOTD, versions and such, so this would be more obvious. Maybe this is already available but not parsed by EVEMon.. I have no idea, but could be good. -Angel
Wooden Chair	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:02:00 - [99] Im sorry about the time thing, i was converting to EST and was off by a few hours. my bad. Day and night are blending themselves together as of late. as for the lagging and memory issue, i cant wait to see if its really fixed. just basic mission running after each warp the drop menus became slower and slower until finally the game popped. End that and you'll be my hero's.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:03:00 - [100] The extended downtime is now delayed until 13:15 GMT. Wrangler Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Email Reducing lag in EVE: The Jita Conundrum - StacklessIO or: How We Reduced Lag - Such Stuff As Dreams Are Made On - EVE64 - My node was equipped with the following...


Wooden Chair	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:04:00 - [101] Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Maybe CCP should work something out with EVEMon devs and provide MOTD, versions and such, so this would be more obvious. Maybe this is already available but not parsed by EVEMon.. I have no idea, but could be good. Best idea ever. ccp should take over EvEMon. proceed to get a decent developer crew for it, then launch it on their own site, with their own loadouts and battle clinic. just in my opinion i think that would be rather cool. not really feasible... but cool.
Daquaris Caldari Novus Aevum Transport and Industries Novus Aevum	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:04:00 - [102] Originally by: CCP Wrangler The extended downtime is now delayed until 13:15 GMT. Thanks for the update :)
Zacil Ha	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:04:00 - [103] Thanks for the update. I was beginning to wonder. =)
Fixxi Hard	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:04:00 - [104] mh. well, cant change it anyway :D
VEnGenCcE	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:05:00 - [105] Originally by: CCP Wrangler The extended downtime is now delayed until 13:15 GMT. let the complaining begin! ... feel sorry for you guys.
Saint Tetrimon	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:06:00 - [106] hmm something be wrong. 1304. still no patch available. starting a pool on when there will be a patch for the patch.
Perkoken Hunokken	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:06:00 - [107] 15 minutes isnt bad... just smoke a bowl while you wait. Reduces on stress, overall complications, cuts down on forum spam and lag, makes life easier for the CCP crew, we all get to smile a little bit more, then when were all done we all come back and blow **** up. I see no problems here.
lonely arty	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:06:00 - [108] hehe!!! still i get the status incompatible (protocol!!) is it my pc or is it still not up the pach!!!?? greetings arty
Darkeen Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:06:00 - [109] Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Originally by: Chimii Lecto How come nobody saw all these rather significant issues before deploying it to TQ? Enlighten me, really. How is new code applied to the live server exactly? If it was obvious on Singularity, testers would have seen it, right? They, as the whiners they are, would have poster HERE, BEFORE the expansion was available, right? Lighten up... Angel, you are the bringer of Light! (no pun intended, strangely enough ) As you've said, the Devs wouldnt have released the software if they saw an issue with it. They are now wanting (or was that wanted...) 1000+ players on Singularity on one system at one time, EXACTLY to test the software and the Lag issues... When they deployed the patch on Singularity they MAY have seen a 1 msec lag but how is that going to be noticed? Would it affect the gameplay? Who knows withotu a SHIITE load of players running on singularity at the same time, to test the limits of the software..... So in effect, the Lag issues are OUR fault for not participating in the game we saw we love - if we cared then why wont we jump into Singularity to test it... Question Devs: Can we run our characters on TQ and SING at the same time? Alt characters on the same account? Because if I could do that then I'd run it to help test any upcoming patches.... Just an idea... (Now standing back for the inevitable flames!) Regards, Jason Brisbane

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:07:00 - [110] Originally by: VEnGenCcE Originally by: CCP Wrangler The extended downtime is now delayed until 13:15 GMT. let the complaining begin! ... feel sorry for you guys. I'm supposed to complain? I'm not sure.. but ok... These players, now all they'll do is post and post about the extension to the extended downtime. Geez, it's not the end of the world after all... Wrangler Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Email Reducing lag in EVE: The Jita Conundrum - StacklessIO or: How We Reduced Lag - Such Stuff As Dreams Are Made On - EVE64 - My node was equipped with the following...


Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:07:00 - [111] Originally by: CCP Explorer Bug report 65747 has not been filtered but other bug reports in that thread... What does this mean 'not been filtered'? I filed recently my first bug report (yay for me ) and it also says 'not filtered'. What does it mean? Is it good, bad? Oh, and hurray for CCP and the devs working on overdrive and probably using lots of overtime (prolly unpaid also) to fix the most urgents bugs for this patch now! You guys at CCP could have been lazy and have said 'ah well, it is only some performance issue, no need to hurry, we will fix it next week or the week after'. But you worked hard to fix it as soon as possible. That deserves my applause, I just hope that there was enough time to test it. And on a sidenote: maybe annonce tests on Singulary a bit earlier than just a couple of minutes A popup window on TQ might have helped to get attention also.
Angel Lightbringer Caldari Dark Evolution Industries	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:07:00 - [112] Originally by: Saint Tetrimon hmm something be wrong. 1304. still no patch available. starting a pool on when there will be a patch for the patch. Soon mate, soon. -Angel
Ti Tira	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:07:00 - [113] Originally by: Chimii Lecto How come nobody saw all these rather significant issues before deploying it to TQ? Well maybe the issue only happens if you have to load up a fair amount of players ships. Maybe it is mostly on classic client and not many had been using that on test. Maybe it happens if you do many missions which people don't do much on test I would imagine. Maybe testers thought the test server was getting to many players and runs on crappier system so the lags were because of that. There are many situations that is hard to copy on test. Specially hard with memory leak ones that require huge amount of players.
Thenoran Caldari Hegemony Enterprises E L I T E Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:08:00 - [114] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: VEnGenCcE Originally by: CCP Wrangler The extended downtime is now delayed until 13:15 GMT. let the complaining begin! ... feel sorry for you guys. I'm supposed to complain? I'm not sure.. but ok... These players, now all they'll do is post and post about the extension to the extended downtime. Geez, it's not the end of the world after all... Well not for me, can't say that about everybody else though ------------------------ Ship Yield Calc Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:09:00 - [115] Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Originally by: Saint Tetrimon hmm something be wrong. 1304. still no patch available. starting a pool on when there will be a patch for the patch. Soon mate, soon. You forgot the ™. Wrangler Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Email Reducing lag in EVE: The Jita Conundrum - StacklessIO or: How We Reduced Lag - Such Stuff As Dreams Are Made On - EVE64 - My node was equipped with the following...

Athaka Jamo	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:10:00 - [116] I've been getting that vertical text bug on my end while typing as well, so you're not alone here. It seems to happen when I've done a lot of alt-tabbing but I may just be imagining things and it could just be happening randomly.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:10:00 - [117] Originally by: CCP Wrangler These players, now all they'll do is post and post about the extension to the extended downtime. Geez, it's not the end of the world after all... I expect several hours delay, major screwup, rollbacks and what all else So anything short of this will be a major success in my eyes!
Nicholai Pestot Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:10:00 - [118] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Originally by: Saint Tetrimon hmm something be wrong. 1304. still no patch available. starting a pool on when there will be a patch for the patch. Soon mate, soon. You forgot the Ö. Devs need to play less left 4 dead at work and get back to patching c/d?
VEnGenCcE	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:10:00 - [119] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: VEnGenCcE Originally by: CCP Wrangler The extended downtime is now delayed until 13:15 GMT. let the complaining begin! ... feel sorry for you guys. I'm supposed to complain? I'm not sure.. but ok... These players, now all they'll do is post and post about the extension to the extended downtime. Geez, it's not the end of the world after all... Who what Huh? lol I actually find it pretty entertaining when people get on here and whine about the time and how they waited 4 months for this specific day to get on and play or whatever the whine might be.
Thenoran Caldari Hegemony Enterprises E L I T E Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:11:00 - [120] Originally by: Saint Tetrimon hmm something be wrong. 1304. still no patch available. starting a pool on when there will be a patch for the patch. When it's done! ------------------------ Ship Yield Calc Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...

Angel Lightbringer Caldari Dark Evolution Industries	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:11:00 - [121] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Originally by: Saint Tetrimon hmm something be wrong. 1304. still no patch available. starting a pool on when there will be a patch for the patch. Soon mate, soon. You forgot the Ö. Well frankly, I didn't know how to make it, but I'd have hehe Next time.. next time! -Angel

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:11:00 - [122] Originally by: Wooden Chair The only thing now is, its almost 2 hours past patch point, and maybe i missed it, but my client is not updating. just sits there and says incompatible protocol The deployment was advertised from 11:00-13:00 GMT. You posted at 12:52 GMT or 8 minutes before the scheduled end of the deployment. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

neoe77	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:12:00 - [123] UPDATE: Server startup delayed by 15 minutes ETA 13:15 GMT/UTC. I've expected this, --------- check path using eve-path-find
Thenoran Caldari Hegemony Enterprises E L I T E Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:12:00 - [124] Originally by: Nicholai Pestot Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Originally by: Saint Tetrimon hmm something be wrong. 1304. still no patch available. starting a pool on when there will be a patch for the patch. Soon mate, soon. You forgot the Ö. Devs need to play less left 4 dead at work and get back to patching c/d? A few more minutes gonna kill you? ------------------------ Ship Yield Calc Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...
Angel Lightbringer Caldari Dark Evolution Industries	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:12:00 - [125] Originally by: Nicholai Pestot Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Originally by: Saint Tetrimon hmm something be wrong. 1304. still no patch available. starting a pool on when there will be a patch for the patch. Soon mate, soon. You forgot the Ö. Devs need to play less left 4 dead at work and get back to patching c/d? hmm.. Wrangler = Community manager, not Dev.. Major difference I say.. -Angel
Wooden Chair	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:12:00 - [126] the bulk of the whiners are lolmatar and gaglenti. No surprise.
Wooden Chair	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:14:00 - [127] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Wooden Chair The only thing now is, its almost 2 hours past patch point, and maybe i missed it, but my client is not updating. just sits there and says incompatible protocol The deployment was advertised from 11:00-13:00 GMT. You posted at 12:52 GMT or 8 minutes before the scheduled end of the deployment. I already apologized for this, i was converting GMT to EST (where i live) and posted before taking my head out of my ass.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:14:00 - [128] Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Devs need to play less left 4 dead at work and get back to patching c/d? hmm.. Wrangler = Community manager, not Dev.. Major difference I say.. Does that mean I can go play Left 4 Dead? Wrangler Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Email Reducing lag in EVE: The Jita Conundrum - StacklessIO or: How We Reduced Lag - Such Stuff As Dreams Are Made On - EVE64 - My node was equipped with the following...

Jerek Reomae	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:15:00 - [129] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Wooden Chair The only thing now is, its almost 2 hours past patch point, and maybe i missed it, but my client is not updating. just sits there and says incompatible protocol The deployment was advertised from 11:00-13:00 GMT. You posted at 12:52 GMT or 8 minutes before the scheduled end of the deployment. plus its been extended to 13:15 mate, but anyways I never posted on here before so just thought i'd make a contribution , these forums are however funny to watch so keep the postings comming
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:15:00 - [130] Originally by: Wooden Chair the bulk of the whiners are lolmatar and gaglenti. No surprise. Go whine about your miss-iles - - - Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...

VEnGenCcE	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:16:00 - [131] Originally by: Wooden Chair Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Wooden Chair The only thing now is, its almost 2 hours past patch point, and maybe i missed it, but my client is not updating. just sits there and says incompatible protocol The deployment was advertised from 11:00-13:00 GMT. You posted at 12:52 GMT or 8 minutes before the scheduled end of the deployment. I already apologized for this, i was converting GMT to EST (where i live) and posted before taking my head out of my ass. Hiya neighbor! EST here too, Michigan
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:16:00 - [132] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Devs need to play less left 4 dead at work and get back to patching c/d? hmm.. Wrangler = Community manager, not Dev.. Major difference I say.. Does that mean I can go play Left 4 Dead? Dont miss out on Dead Space (rent it though since its about 16 hours of gameplay). - - - Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...
Lucia Warbler Infinite Frontiers	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:17:00 - [133] Originally by: DrAtomic Go whine about your miss-iles S(he) is Caldari? I couldn't see anything but an explanation mark. The ultimate anonymous Internet person.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:17:00 - [134] And unfortunately we have to extended it until 13:30 GMT. Wrangler Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Email Reducing lag in EVE: The Jita Conundrum - StacklessIO or: How We Reduced Lag - Such Stuff As Dreams Are Made On - EVE64 - My node was equipped with the following...

Nicholai Pestot Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:17:00 - [135] Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Originally by: Nicholai Pestot Devs need to play less left 4 dead at work and get back to patching c/d? hmm.. Wrangler = Community manager, not Dev.. Major difference I say.. And wrangler has what to do with the patching process exactly? I don't care about the patch delay, I'm playing WAR atm
Cadde Gallente Gene Works AKA-AHN KINGDOM	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:17:00 - [136] 13:30 now... --------------- Opinions? Yes they belong to me, not my corp!
Wooden Chair	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:17:00 - [137] no one actually reads posts anymore, they just find one they want to comment on, on page 3, lose control in their apparent excitement, then jump to page 5 and comment, missing everything in between, therefore making posts... that make no sense. Please stop this tomfoolery
Yogsothos	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:17:00 - [138] Do I have to do something after this patch is implemented or does that happen automatically...? I just hate to keep waiting for Devs to finish when/if I need to be doing something. :D
Glane Sardar	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:17:00 - [139] put back to 13:30, whilst I would like to stay and log in, got stuff to do, suspect it might work by 16:00 ?
Delta Kiri Delta Innovative Tech and Cat House	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:17:00 - [140] Its loading!!

Agathon BuzzSaw	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:17:00 - [141] Edited by: Agathon BuzzSaw on 22/11/2008 13:18:56 Incompatible (Protocol) WTF? i cant log in and this is what i get when i try to patch Any reason?
Jack Rowanburn Eve Unity Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:17:00 - [142] Originally by: CCP Wrangler I'm supposed to complain? I'm not sure.. but ok... These players, now all they'll do is post and post about the extension to the extended downtime. Geez, it's not the end of the world after all... I'm sigifying that ------------- Insert Sig Here
Nicholai Pestot Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:18:00 - [143] Originally by: CCP Wrangler And unfortunately we have to extended it until 13:30 GMT. Erk, terrible when that random tank spawns at the end isnt it
Arthur Pewty Task Force Zener Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:18:00 - [144] UPDATE: Server startup delayed by 30 minutes ETA 13:30 GMT/UTC. /me starts to twitch. Also please remove the UTC - its GMT Arthur
SwoopingHawkeye BLACK 0RIGIN The Black Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:18:00 - [145] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Devs need to play less left 4 dead at work and get back to patching c/d? hmm.. Wrangler = Community manager, not Dev.. Major difference I say.. Does that mean I can go play Left 4 Dead? Hell i would... If people want to get mad and complain about something stupid, help them out and give them something really good to be mad about.
Yogsothos	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:18:00 - [146] ok while I was posting they extended to 13:30 but still, my question stands...
Tital	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:18:00 - [147] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Wooden Chair The only thing now is, its almost 2 hours past patch point, and maybe i missed it, but my client is not updating. just sits there and says incompatible protocol The deployment was advertised from 11:00-13:00 GMT. You posted at 12:52 GMT or 8 minutes before the scheduled end of the deployment. Owned - now you have to pay CCP for wasting their time
Kael Sillumen	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:18:00 - [148] About the whines about waiting 4 months to play at this specific day, its not nonsense. I, for one, spent whole night playing mortal kombat (didnt sleep at all), just to wait for this downtime in order to do a hard hard mission (Hunger strikes). So please, turn the server on , people are depending on me, they will die of starvation :P Now, seriously, gj CCP - keep up with good work; hopefully ambulation soon?
Achran Dexx Caldari CompleXion Industries CompleXion Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:19:00 - [149] Originally by: Arthur Pewty UPDATE: Server startup delayed by 30 minutes ETA 13:30 GMT/UTC. /me starts to twitch. Also please remove the UTC - its GMT Arthur UTC is GMT, you not so witty person!
Angel Lightbringer Caldari Dark Evolution Industries	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:19:00 - [150] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Devs need to play less left 4 dead at work and get back to patching c/d? hmm.. Wrangler = Community manager, not Dev.. Major difference I say.. Does that mean I can go play Left 4 Dead? turns sour uses google watch flash intro understand what "left 4 dead" actually means No, we need you here damnit! -Angel

Bumchum	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:19:00 - [151] damn you and your 15 minutes lies :P
PiKacho Minmatar The Flaming Sideburn's	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:19:00 - [152] The patch was downloaded but it failed verification indicating that the file is corrupt. Would you like to download the file again? You will not be able to enter the game until you download the patch mhm
Wooden Chair	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:20:00 - [153] Originally by: Kael Sillumen About the whines about waiting 4 months to play at this specific day, its not nonsense. I, for one, spent whole night playing mortal kombat (didnt sleep at all), just to wait for this downtime in order to do a hard hard mission (Hunger strikes). So please, turn the server on , people are depending on me, they will die of starvation :P Now, seriously, gj CCP - keep up with good work; hopefully ambulation soon? Prime example. If this fool read all the previous posts.. this would have never happened.
Borysa Minmatar The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:20:00 - [154] Originally by: Glane Sardar put back to 13:30, whilst I would like to stay and log in, got stuff to do, suspect it might work by 16:00 ? 16:00, sure. But on which day? I should drink more.
Delta Kiri Delta Innovative Tech and Cat House	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:20:00 - [155] Originally by: Delta Kiri Its loading!! Failed verification :( This could be a long day.
Saint Tetrimon	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:20:00 - [156] Originally by: CCP Wrangler And unfortunately we have to extended it until 13:30 GMT. Please push back to 1400, 1330 is too soonÖ for me.
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:21:00 - [157] "Fixed a memory leak issue when ships appear on screen." Now that's something that happens once in a blue moon! SHIPS ON SCREEN! Hope you guys get it right cause it's a pain now. Boink!
EspionageX Perkone	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:21:00 - [158] Linkage Keeps me busy at least
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:21:00 - [159] Originally by: CCP Wrangler And unfortunately we have to extended it until 13:30 GMT. 14:19, now server isnt starting up as of yet (unless its been started but in a new hidden mode with the unknown protocol thingy). Start up takes around 12 minutes and then the guys need about 15 minutes to finish what they are doing as well. The better annoucement would be 14:19+12+15=14:45 or even 15:00. Just saying slap me when im wrong. - - - Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:22:00 - [160] The patch was downloaded but it failed verification indicating that the file is corrupt. Would you like to download the file again? You will not be able to enter the game until you download the patch - - - Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...

Zee Boss	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:22:00 - [161] failed only on premium content
Wooden Chair	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:22:00 - [162] Originally by: EspionageX Linkage Keeps me busy at least http://www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com/
Ishmael D'ren Gallente Krypteia Brotherhood Rough Necks	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:23:00 - [163] booo!
Saint Tetrimon	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:23:00 - [164] [quote EVE]The patch was downloaded but it failed verification indicating that the file is corrupt. Would you like to download the file again?
Delta Kiri Delta Innovative Tech and Cat House	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:24:00 - [165] Nothing beats on the fly QA for enhancing customer relations.
Yogsothos	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:24:00 - [166] I am new to the game. I know this is proly another dumb question but where do I go to download the patch?
Zee Boss	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:24:00 - [167] Restate : Premium content verification failed . but the classic one worked.
Dunedon Trans Nebula Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:25:00 - [168] Edited by: Dunedon on 22/11/2008 13:25:09 Premium Failed Verification Here as well, tried twice ended up with files that end .bad890 and .bad944 if that helps : - Dunedon ------ WYSIWYG: I don't post with an Alt ... if I die in game for having an opinion, at least I know someone listened. - Dunedon
Bimjo Caldari Domination. Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:25:00 - [169] Originally by: Zee Boss Restate : Premium content verification failed . but the classic one worked. yup ====================
Lucia Warbler Infinite Frontiers	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:25:00 - [170] This topic needs more hamsters. <-- he developed this patch

Saint Tetrimon	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:25:00 - [171] Originally by: Yogsothos I am new to the game. I know this is proly another dumb question but where do I go to download the patch? Just open the EVE client and a dialog will pop up asking you to patch.
Taelech Caldari Caldari Design and Cryogenics	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:25:00 - [172] Are we there yet? Taelech - Professor emeritus - Caldari Business Tribunal School of Law
Jack Rowanburn Eve Unity Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:26:00 - [173] heres an idea, wait until the servers are officially up and working before complaining that your patch downloads don't work? ------------- Insert Sig Here
Aelesta Meris Caldari FREEDOM FIRST EVESpace	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:26:00 - [174] Premium Classic
Mattduk Gallente Universal Army	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:26:00 - [175] doh, patch the patch! Come on lads... I assume you tested the patch before deploying it right? Jump Bridges? **** idea.
HotWitch	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:27:00 - [176] same here, verification failed.
Bimjo Caldari Domination. Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:27:00 - [177] Originally by: Jack Rowanburn heres an idea, wait until the servers are officially up and working before complaining that your patch downloads don't work? what has patch got to do with servers being up ? premium patch is corrupt,whether server is up or not ====================
Ethen Bejorn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:27:00 - [178] Originally by: Jack Rowanburn heres an idea, wait until the servers are officially up and working before complaining that your patch downloads don't work? Here is an idea, don't have extended downtimes on a Saturday morning.
Delta Kiri Delta Innovative Tech and Cat House	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:27:00 - [179] Originally by: Jack Rowanburn heres an idea, wait until the servers are officially up and working before complaining that your patch downloads don't work? Here's an idea, don't enable the download until you know it works.
Warren Sticklefish	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:28:00 - [180] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: VEnGenCcE Originally by: CCP Wrangler The extended downtime is now delayed until 13:15 GMT. let the complaining begin! ... feel sorry for you guys. I'm supposed to complain? I'm not sure.. but ok... These players, now all they'll do is post and post about the extension to the extended downtime. Geez, it's not the end of the world after all... It wont be the downtime that people will complain about. It will be the fact that the estimates will keep changing. How about estimated 14:00 GMT, and when you get it up before then, everyone is happy.

Pit Panic	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:28:00 - [181] Did anyone in CCP has tested the patch before making it available for public... ? (a corupt 4MB patch zzzzz....)
VEnGenCcE	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:28:00 - [182]
Wooden Chair Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:28:00 - [183] Classic works.
cragz Caldari CaldaCorp Quantum Star Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:29:00 - [184] The patch was downloaded but it Epic Failed verification indicating that the file was Implemented CCP. Would you like to download the file again? You will not be able to enter the game until CCP have Fixed the patch.
Allieynne	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:29:00 - [185] Look folks you think it's easy keeping all those hamsters going in the cluster? They need feeding, cleaning, taking care of and the little blighters go on strike without so much as a moment's notice siting "union rules" or just make for freedom as fast their little Nike trainers carry them. They will all be be back in their little wheels soon enough so we can get back to commiting to our second life rather like we should be our first. :) I for one applaud CCP's willingness to fix the current issues so quickly and Wrangler if ever someone deserves a medal for patience then I hereby award you one. Continues meditation on universal peace while waiting for hamster hunt to complete
Pohbis Neo T.E.C.H.	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:29:00 - [186] Originally by: Aelesta Meris Premium Classic Backup your boot.ini before applying those! Oh and yeah, verification failed on premium here as well.
Venduras	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:30:00 - [187] Originally by: VEnGenCcE Is that a GoonSwarm cyno?
HRH Elvez	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:30:00 - [188] Originally by: Ethen Bejorn Originally by: Jack Rowanburn heres an idea, wait until the servers are officially up and working before complaining that your patch downloads don't work? Here is an idea, don't have extended downtimes on a Saturday morning. Yer but if YOU workd in Iceland right now you would be looking for any oppurtunity you could get for overtime ;-)
theWhiteKnight	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:30:00 - [189] <---- file is corrupt
PR Hough Gallente R.U.S.T. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:30:00 - [190] The patch was downloaded but it failed verification indicating that the file is corrupt. Would you like to download the file again? You will not be able to enter the game until you download the patch.

HotWitch	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:30:00 - [191] i dont care how long it takes, but i want to be able to play once the server is back up and dont have to deal with corrupted patches. lol
IlluminatedOne Amarr Tycho Brahe Fan Club	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:30:00 - [192] Downloaded the premium patch - and patched succesfully. Guys, don't use autopatcher and be happy
vikari East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:31:00 - [193] HRH Elvez's Premium link worked for me. Though the server isn't accepting connections.
Lucia Warbler Infinite Frontiers	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:31:00 - [194] Originally by: Allieynne I for one applaud CCP's willingness to fix the current issues so quickly and Wrangler if ever someone deserves a medal for patience then I hereby award you one. Exactly, it's nice that the memory leak issue was addressed this soon. Assuming of course that patch works, CCP has earned the medal.
khazak mokl	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:31:00 - [195] I endorse this product. . . Even if it cant verify itself
tEvEy Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:33:00 - [196] autopatch working now
HotWitch	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:33:00 - [197] WORKS NOW!!!!
FLYTOP Minmatar The Circle STYX.	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:33:00 - [198] here also pacth is with a corrupt file!!!! can not download!
Delta Kiri Delta Innovative Tech and Cat House	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:33:00 - [199] Originally by: IlluminatedOne Downloaded the premium patch - and patched succesfully. Guys, don't use autopatcher and be happy The problem is they won't let the server go live until they get the autopatcher working right. They may even pull the patch and rollback, leaving you maunual patchers up the creek without a compatible version until the re-do the patch.
Wil Smithx Minmatar Blueprint Haus	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:33:00 - [200] Sigh, fail-patch fails twitches Must have more eve...

Jed Clampett	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:33:00 - [201] Originally by: Wooden Chair no one actually reads posts anymore, they just find one they want to comment on, on page 3, lose control in their apparent excitement, then jump to page 5 and comment, missing everything in between, therefore making posts... that make no sense. Please stop this tomfoolery That is one way to fill customer time. Make them read all the prior posts - may be with a mandatory checkbox. It is beautifully self-limiting as the number of posts grow. On the other hand, I think most people just prefer ASAP update information about additional delays -- as soon as it is suspected you are going to miss your current posted goal. I at least would prefer to see you come up a little bit earlier than your last posted estimate of completion. The quibble about 8 minutes left in prior CCP post was pretty bad as any reasonable person could tell that the server wasn't going to be up in 8 minutes. I mean even without a new patch to post, EVE normally takes 500 seconds for the last phase.
FMMERC	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:33:00 - [202] in game patch worked and updated , just not accepting connections at present ...
SwoopingHawkeye BLACK 0RIGIN The Black Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:33:00 - [203] somebody let me know when premium works so i can down load patch...
Anosh	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:33:00 - [204] Originally by: IlluminatedOne Downloaded the premium patch - and patched succesfully. Guys, don't use autopatcher and be happy Can anyone confirm that the classic patch also works from manual download ? TBH I never auto-patch anyways.
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:33:00 - [205] Originally by: khazak mokl I endorse this product. . . Even if it cant verify itself Its still corrupt. I predict a failry long down time. If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
Zee Boss	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:34:00 - [206] yes, premium autopatch worked.
Lady Isabell	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:34:00 - [207] Download the patch from Eve patches, works great all though the server is not accepting connections.
Daevonar Minmatar Starfish Operating Syndicate	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:34:00 - [208] Patched, latched and ready to crash Dae.
FLYTOP Minmatar The Circle STYX.	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:34:00 - [209] works now!!!
Aikanaro Gallente Intelligent Innovations	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:34:00 - [210] worked here just not accepting connections

Athaka Jamo	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:34:00 - [211] Downloading premium patch right now, just restart the game.
Wil Smithx Minmatar Blueprint Haus	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:34:00 - [212] Originally by: HotWitch WORKS NOW!!!! No, it does not.
Erick Asmock	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:35:00 - [213] Prem patch is downloading but still not verifying and corrupt.

GM Zhainius Amarr Game Masters	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:35:00 - [214] Please remember to wait until the servers are officially up before attempting to patch for all down times. Patches may change during down times and as such the old ones will become invalidated and corrupt. --- GM Zhainius EVE Online Customer Support CCP Games

Wooden Chair Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:35:00 - [215] If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues. I usually call a corp a guild and get yelled at for it... hard to break those old WoW days. and im tired of these mixed reports of up here down there...
Xavier Zedicus Red Sky Morning	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:35:00 - [216] cry my skill ended cause yesterday i forgot there was a patch today! -=-=- Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
Grarr Dexx Amarr The Cosa Nostra La Cosa Nostra Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:35:00 - [217] Rule one of Eve's patches: Don't download them until CCP tells you to. If you want to be an early bird, accept the fact that they might just add another patch leaving you in the dust. -----
pritch1 Caldari Core Research Expedition New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:35:00 - [218] mine patched fine on after several times of re downloading -------- C.O.R.E Recruitment officer UK time zone
Shrug123	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:35:00 - [219] Classic on the lap-of-top has downloaded the patch....thankfully I have an hour more of TV to watch while afk miningso mayyyyyybeeeee b that time Premium will be up and running on the BEEEGG PC... and I lose my 14:00 GMT bet!
khazak mokl	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:36:00 - [220] i want to know who the lucky 6 people who are connected are. . . . ?

Neddy Fox Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:36:00 - [221] After trying 4 times it worked. ---- [PXIN Recruiter] PXIN Recruitement thread
ZacAllen Minmatar Mining and Refining - Industrie Expertes LUCKY PEOPLE CENTER	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:36:00 - [222] seems to work now, just downloaded and applied the patch.
Artanixir Unnatural Growth Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:36:00 - [223] Originally by: GM Zhainius Please remember to wait until the servers are officially up before attempting to patch for all down times. Patches may change during down times and as such the old ones will become invalidated and corrupt. but we can't check if the server is up without loading the game, which requests us to patch :P (not a complaint, just an observation hehe, who reads the message anyway? i just click yes, can i still reboot my comp? :P) --- If Common sense is so common, why is it so rare
Lucia Warbler Infinite Frontiers	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:37:00 - [224] Originally by: khazak mokl i want to know who the lucky 6 people who are connected are. . . . ? They are the Devs, stealing your assets. ;)
Lady Isabell	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:37:00 - [225] Originally by: khazak mokl i want to know who the lucky 6 people who are connected are. . . . ? Developers :)
Nisd Amarr The Righteous Few YTMND.	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:37:00 - [226] Edited by: Nisd on 22/11/2008 13:38:49 I tryede to download the primium path like 8-10 times now still no luck...... A buddy tryede 3 times and still no luck 11 time i tryede it workede.... But my cppfile crashede when i pressede "ok"?
Nim Fairchild Gallente TerraNovae Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:37:00 - [227] Yeah - I'm in!!!!
khazak mokl	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:37:00 - [228] Originally by: Lady Isabell Originally by: khazak mokl i want to know who the lucky 6 people who are connected are. . . . ? Developers :) Oh no there killing all my belt rats. . GRRR . . ..
Fixxi Hard	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:37:00 - [229] i am in!
Wil Smithx Minmatar Blueprint Haus	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:38:00 - [230] No fair, mine doesn't work.

Erick Asmock	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:38:00 - [231] No, Rule #1 of software engineering...properly write your code so that you can control release of the code to the public.
IntegerOverflow	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:38:00 - [232] Originally by: GM Zhainius Please remember to wait until the servers are officially up before attempting to patch for all down times. Patches may change during down times and as such the old ones will become invalidated and corrupt. freaking bull - I just applied this patch .. now my client's gonna be byebye? grrr
SamsClub	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:38:00 - [233] premium patch works now, but you need to quit game and reload first. Servers are still down atm tho
AlexSmaller	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:38:00 - [234] This patch, doesn't work, so get your feets in your hand and fix it, I pay for this game!!!!!
Nim Fairchild Gallente TerraNovae Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:38:00 - [235] Woohoo.......!!!
Led Floyd	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:38:00 - [236] i had the same problem many times..file corupt..but it finally took tho i dont know if its right because servers are still down.It did finally authenticate,just wanted to put that out there,premium content patch.
Noxin Azur Cohortes Stellaris ParadoXon Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:38:00 - [237] any official ETA for letting us get to satisfy our addiction?
Yogsothos	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:38:00 - [238] I am in and playing. :P
Snow Banshee	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:38:00 - [239] just logging in :D
VEnGenCcE	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:39:00 - [240] WHOOHOO ... In !!

Rosalina Sarinna Aliastra	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:39:00 - [241] Originally by: GM Zhainius Please remember to wait until the servers are officially up before attempting to patch for all down times. Patches may change during down times and as such the old ones will become invalidated and corrupt. Oh dear, does this mean we have to do something to remove the old 'corrupt' download after it failed verification?
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:39:00 - [242] Originally by: GM Zhainius Please remember to wait until the servers are officially up before attempting to patch for all down times. Patches may change during down times and as such the old ones will become invalidated and corrupt. Stop auto patching until the correct is ready?
HotWitch	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:39:00 - [243] login right now. :)
SamsClub	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:39:00 - [244] sorry for doubble post but servers up now
Lucia Warbler Infinite Frontiers	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:39:00 - [245] Logged in quite nicely, thank you. First in local \o/
CorpExtreme	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:39:00 - [246] good work guys :)
Pohbis Neo T.E.C.H.	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:40:00 - [247] Originally by: GM Zhainius Please remember to wait until the servers are officially up before attempting to patch for all down times. Patches may change during down times and as such the old ones will become invalidated and corrupt. Then please don't make patches available on the 'EVE patches' part of the official website before the downtime is over and the final patch ready.
Taelech Caldari Caldari Design and Cryogenics	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:40:00 - [248] I'm in! Taelech - Professor emeritus - Caldari Business Tribunal School of Law
LoRDFoXX Caldari UK Corp	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:40:00 - [249] Me too..............
Saint Tetrimon	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:40:00 - [250] Edited by: Saint Tetrimon on 22/11/2008 13:40:48 So I borked one installation trying to download the patch manually, luckily had a backup copy of the eve folder that seemed to patch premium ver correctly. we will see when(if?) the servers come up. edit: in!

Rude Bwoy	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:40:00 - [251] Originally by: GM Zhainius Please remember to wait until the servers are officially up before attempting to patch for all down times. Patches may change during down times and as such the old ones will become invalidated and corrupt. Why are pre-prod patches being released on public servers? Why not only make prod-patches available after they've passed Q&A? Who's the rudest of them all!
Ardei	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:41:00 - [252] It works but indeed the Devs stole our assets
Angel Lightbringer Caldari Dark Evolution Industries	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:42:00 - [253] Angel's own best patch day practice 1-Zip bin directory to safe location ("%ProgramFiles%\CCP") 2-Zip data directory to safe location ("%UserProfile%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP") 3-Proceed to download/apply patch 4-Bugs occur? Unzip and restart @ step 3 5-Profit! -Angel
Jed Clampett	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:43:00 - [254] Originally by: Pit Panic Did anyone in CCP has tested the patch before making it available for public... ? (a corupt 4MB patch zzzzz....) Unfortunately it looks like CCP subscribes to the 1950s business model of declaring deadlines and then proceeding as if they will succeed no matter what goes wrong or is not done. At least until 5 minutes after missing a deadline. Though it might be partially for practical reasons like union agreement to stay late 1 day in a week but only 1 day versus getting customers with bad clients back on track ASAP. But I am betting someone in CCP management apparently thinks that sort of PR looks better even in the face of significant work slippages. I don't know why those sort of managers don't like just extending downtime or just admitting that maybe they should postpone deployment for a couple days. But they don't. And I have worked for such people myself. I am sure everyone is at maximum sweat and tempers are short.

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:44:00 - [255] Tranquility is online and patches to EVE Online: Quantum Rise 1.0.1 are available and verified. If you are having problems patching, please restart the client. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games



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