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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.09.12 19:30:00 -
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Dominion market analysis : sky's the limit on technetium (long term) started by Akita T
I think this one deserves to stay alive
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.09.12 19:32:00 -
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Tc's been sticking at 100K for awhile now.
Breakout to happen soon (within a week or two) - Is my purely guesstimated err.. guess.
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Soldarius
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
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Posted - 2011.09.14 01:46:00 -
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TornSoul wrote:Tc's been sticking at 100K for awhile now.
Breakout to happen soon (within a week or two) - Is my purely guesstimated err.. guess.
Based on what? Obvious manipulation attempt is obvious.
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Loney
CyberDyne R-D
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Posted - 2011.09.14 02:47:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:TornSoul wrote:Tc's been sticking at 100K for awhile now.
Breakout to happen soon (within a week or two) - Is my purely guesstimated err.. guess.
Based on what? Obvious manipulation attempt is obvious.
Based on my thoughts of buying 1m Tech tomorrow... or soon! |
Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest THE D0MINION
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Posted - 2011.09.14 03:09:00 -
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.09.14 15:28:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:TornSoul wrote:Tc's been sticking at 100K for awhile now.
Breakout to happen soon (within a week or two) - Is my purely guesstimated err.. guess.
Based on what? Obvious manipulation attempt is obvious.
As said, it's a guess (on the timeframe)
That it *will* happen I have no doubt about, baring any CCP intervention.
The upwards pressure on Tc hasn't changed - Read the original forum thread for the reasons why.
As such, prices will go up again (now that the first scare is over) - Just a matter of when - Not "if".
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.09.14 16:00:00 -
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I think it is a matter of "if", in that demand across the board has eaten ****. If the numbers pickup and people start blowing up spaceships again, then we'll see that bottleneck in action, and I think it will really pop now that we've chewed through a lot of stockpiles. However, this outcome depends on if this is just an exaggerated seasonal slump or if, in fact, Eve really is dying (exaggerating of course, but you know what I mean). |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.09.14 17:02:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:However, this outcome depends on if this is just an exaggerated seasonal slump or if, in fact, Eve really is dying (exaggerating of course, but you know what I mean).
I don't think it's an _exaggerated_ seasonal slump - But just the usual seasonal slump *combined* with the lack of new content in the Incarna expansion to draw in new/old players (thus making it look like an exaggerated slump)
Regardless - The numbers would have to further fall catastrophically before the Tc bottleneck would become a paper bottleneck only.
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.09.14 17:13:00 -
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TornSoul wrote:I don't think it's an _exaggerated_ seasonal slump - But just the usual seasonal slump *combined* with the lack of new content in the Incarna expansion to draw in new/old players (thus making it look like an exaggerated slump)
Ya, that's precisely what I meant. Sorry if that was worded poorly.
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Wabs
Bite me inc. Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.09.19 21:02:00 -
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Why did tech drop 6k in a day or two after staying at about 100k for weeks....? Any reason? |
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Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
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Posted - 2011.09.20 21:45:00 -
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Crash and burn, baby. Crash and BUUUUUUURRRRRNNNNN.
(I never really enjoyed having to carry more than a billion ISK worth of reaction materials in my hauler) |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.09.20 23:41:00 -
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The funny part is that most of the other moonmins don't seem to be picking up the slack in price, the technetium traded volume is not spiking, the corresponding advanced materials have been slowly drifting downwards for weeks or even months earlier, and quite a few T2 ships have been trending downwards too (with the noteworthy exception of the Hulk, which is surprisingly strong on an upwards trajectory lately).
To me, all of that spells a significant demand drop for T2 ships in general... ...which would be understandable given the user count drop EVE has been experiencing lately (and for those still around, a general "shooty" activity level drop). I can't say I understand what the deal with Hulks might be though. Then again, haven't been around that much for the past 3 months or so.
I fully expect most of the other moon minerals to start drifting downwards sooner or later too. Too bad for trader wallets that you can't short in EVE, eh ? http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.09.21 00:15:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Too bad for trader wallets that you can't short in EVE, eh ?
Relying on general upward trends sucks balls, especially when demand is eating **** across the board.
Not happy.
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Soldarius
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
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Posted - 2011.09.21 02:06:00 -
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I recall reading a post from a former NC higher level mucky-muck (or perhaps it was Mittani, cbb to go find it again) that the DRF has been flooding the market with tech, which would exert a downward pressure on price. But since I don't usually watch moongoo, I could be wrong on the effect.
Either way, they [DRF] is eager to cash in on the moongoo tech *****. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |
Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.21 17:01:00 -
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Akita T wrote:To me, all of that spells a significant demand drop for T2 ships in general... ...which would be understandable given the user count drop EVE has been experiencing lately (and for those still around, a general "shooty" activity level drop). I can't say I understand what the deal with Hulks might be though. Then again, haven't been around that much for the past 3 months or so.
As a ship manufacturer I'm confirming that there seems to be a slump in ship sales - it's not critical but it's certainly noticeable, ships take longer to move and prices are dropping because of oversupply. Not a great business to be in right now. (Though I'll take a look at the hulk - hulks have always had skin tight margins, they might just be adjusting to a more normal level)
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Netheranthem
Eve Engineering Finance Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2011.09.23 21:45:00 -
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This seems surreal. I mean, tech has a 7% margin on the market since one or two days. It would seem like some people have a lot (Not necessarily a lot for an alliance, since they harvest it at a 100/hour rate but a lot ISK-wise) of tech to sell at once, but the quantity traded doesn't tell us about it, except that there is a small increase in quantity. So, I told myself, whatever, let's take those billions from the market. Let's just hope it doesn't collapse on me... again.
Also you might have seen those buy orders for 1 unit increasing the buy price artificially, all that leads me to think some guys have tech to sell, and that manufacturers also try to buy from the buy orders now, since the selling price is staying about the same. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.10.04 00:50:00 -
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Odd how Nanotransistors had a blip but Technetium didn't... http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |
Tasko Pal
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.04 01:28:00 -
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I never remember, but with the end of summer, we should be seeing an increasing in player activity with the return of students to school, right?
So from what I gather, there's no big changes on the horizon unless more people come in, CCP adds content, or someone big gets greedy and/or organized in the northwest.
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.04 01:45:00 -
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The "back to school" bump has been muted due to generally falling numbers from incarna.
Tech and derivatives have been dominated by stockpiles being cashed in. Nano stockpiles may have run out, whereas fullerides and straight tech have not yet done so. |
Tasko Pal
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.04 03:41:00 -
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Thanks for the info Elise. |
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Nomad I
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.04 07:07:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:The "back to school" bump has been muted due to generally falling numbers from incarna.
Tech and derivatives have been dominated by stockpiles being cashed in. Nano stockpiles may have run out, whereas fullerides and straight tech have not yet done so.
I doubt that. Nanos are dominated by reaction towers and many low sec POS owners switched to something else for 4 week ago, when the price for nanos crashed. The last 2 weeks were dominated by a shortage because of less POS reactions. This is repeating now. |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.04 12:27:00 -
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Nomad I wrote:I doubt that. Nanos are dominated by reaction towers and many low sec POS owners switched to something else for 4 week ago, when the price for nanos crashed. The last 2 weeks were dominated by a shortage because of less POS reactions. This is repeating now.
nonresponsive
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.05 18:23:00 -
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No mention of a moon re-balance in the winter expansion.
To the Techmobile! |
Netheranthem
Eve Engineering Finance Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2011.10.05 18:50:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:No mention of a moon re-balance in the winter expansion.
To the Techmobile! Plus they said more T2 stuff! Go buy tech! |
Angsty Teenager
We Are Furious
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:22:00 -
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I lurv how everybody assumes CCP would tell us about moon re-balancing because we all know that wouldn't lead to rampant speculation.
On a separate note, buy thulium. |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.11.13 14:59:00 -
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Seems Tc is back on track?
Been at 100k+ for a week now
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.11.13 15:25:00 -
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TornSoul wrote:Seems Tc is back on track?
Been at 100k+ for a week now
I'm assuming player numbers are back up.
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Loney
CyberDyne R-D
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Posted - 2011.12.18 05:51:00 -
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Hmmmm..... |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids Pleasure Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.18 13:05:00 -
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This might have to do with the jump in JF demand since a lot of tech goes to capital capacitors for JFs. |
Miss Margin
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.18 16:36:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:This might have to do with the jump in JF demand since a lot of tech goes to capital capacitors for JFs.
There is a jump in demand for JFs? This character is for Sale, pure trade skills.-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=517979#post517979
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