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Ricdic
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.14 16:41:00 -
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What % is currently secured? |
Atima
Minmatar House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.02.14 16:49:00 -
[272]
Currently the minimum security I can have is 80%. At the moment it is slightly higher than this, Kaz has the correct figures but I would estimate at around 85%.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.02.14 18:16:00 -
[273]
Currently 88% of the original 60bn of capital is secured in the form of locked-down BPOs. Selling off all the freighter BPOs would leave 68.3% secured. The exact secured figure is somewhat open to interpretation - in many cases, given time, the BPOs could probably be sold for more than Atima paid for them. --- Can't afford that BPO? Look here. 20:1 mineral compression The EVE f@h team |
Dagda Morr
Seppuku Warriors
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Posted - 2009.02.15 15:19:00 -
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I will be voting to reduce the security down to 68%.
In my opinion, the business plan is sound and the market overall looks good given current events. Given the expected dividend I'm happy that the risk/reward ratio is satisfactory for me - 68% security is better than some I have invested in.
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Mintaka Orion
Caldari Ishukone Subsidiary The Orion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.15 20:55:00 -
[275]
For what it's worth, risk is what make the game interesting. My vote would be to sell the bpo's and reduce the security.
Mintaka Orion |
Dawts
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:31:00 -
[276]
Do you think that there will be any issues with Feb divs being paid on time? Maybe if we could get an update once the BPOs are sold to give us an idea where we stand isk wise that would be nice :)
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Jason Marshall
Gallente Hammer Of Light Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.02.16 22:05:00 -
[277]
If there are any shares left, id like to buy 10. Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
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SageHumbolt
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Posted - 2009.02.17 05:13:00 -
[278]
I'll take 10 shares as well if there are any left.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.02.17 08:37:00 -
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All shares for this IPO and the expansion were sold out months ago - the only way to purchase any is to contact the shareholders (who are listed earlier in this thread). And they'll probably want a big markup over what they paid, if they're even prepared to sell. --- Can't afford that BPO? Look here. 20:1 mineral compression The EVE f@h team |
Kushion
Anti Sweden Defense Force Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.02.17 08:48:00 -
[280]
I would like to buy some shares if there are any left!
(yes, I read your post, Kaz. I couldn't resist :< )
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TheScienceMonkey
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Posted - 2009.02.17 09:07:00 -
[281]
My votes with reducing security.
My trust is still in Atima. Selling off poorly performing BPO's makes sense too.
If you have time it'd be interesting to know what bpo's you currently have.
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Tasko Pal
Heron Corporation
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Posted - 2009.02.19 08:41:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Atima Ok,the vote is up. I'll give a run down on what will happen for each choice.
Reduce security to 70%
Vote to reduce security as Atima describes.
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Prisoner 42
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Posted - 2009.02.19 16:02:00 -
[283]
I will defer My vote to Atima. I believe the ceo has the best view of the buisness plan and I at the moment still have confidence in that.
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Murixo
M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.02.19 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Prisoner 42 I will defer My vote to Atima. I believe the ceo has the best view of the buisness plan and I at the moment still have confidence in that.
You still have to physically register your vote through your shares in-game. |
Prisoner 42
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Posted - 2009.02.19 17:52:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Murixo
Originally by: Prisoner 42 I will defer My vote to Atima. I believe the ceo has the best view of the buisness plan and I at the moment still have confidence in that.
You still have to physically register your vote through your shares in-game.
Thanks I did not know that I will vote tonight. |
Loney
CyberDyne R-D
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Posted - 2009.02.21 02:59:00 -
[286]
My vote it is give it all to Loney and let him manage it... :) or Whatever Atima thinks is best! ..
Check us out Now!
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.02.21 09:30:00 -
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The vote closed on the 18th. I'm not sure what proportion of shares actually voted, but of those that did, approximately 80% were in favour of reducing security. --- Can't afford that BPO? Look here. 20:1 mineral compression The EVE f@h team |
Dawts
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:25:00 -
[288]
When are divs supposed to be paid?
For some reason in my mind it was the 20th of each month... I'm not sure where I got that date from though lol.
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hamstermk2
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:42:00 -
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Shaktar
V Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 23:21:00 -
[290]
wtb 20 shares
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Dawts
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.02.25 22:43:00 -
[291]
No one knows?
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.02.26 01:01:00 -
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what was the result of the vote or is it still pending?
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Frenden Dax
Dax Acquisitions
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Posted - 2009.02.26 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dawts When are divs supposed to be paid?
For some reason in my mind it was the 20th of each month... I'm not sure where I got that date from though lol.
This question begins to prey on my mind as well. We're running out of days in February.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.02.26 02:42:00 -
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60B under management, major restructuring yet the last time Atima spoke to shareholders was nearly 2 weeks ago on the 14th, and people are talking about late divs.
The communication has been really poor on this IPO.
Largest non-heritage or old player IPO in the secondary market. Now I remember why you shouldn't throw 60B at a newbie!
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Namco
Balls of Steel
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Posted - 2009.02.26 03:05:00 -
[295]
Atima was hanging out in scc-lounge (chat room) yesterday, I was meaning to ask something for my own interest in this, but got distracted by other crap. :(
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.02.26 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray 60B under management, major restructuring yet the last time Atima spoke to shareholders was nearly 2 weeks ago on the 14th, and people are talking about late divs.
The communication has been really poor on this IPO.
Largest non-heritage or old player IPO in the secondary market. Now I remember why you shouldn't throw 60B at a newbie!
At what point would you consider acceptable age to throw 60b at?
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.02.26 04:10:00 -
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Not age, reputation.
He had the rep to pull off 20B because he secured 16B, so it was only a 4B offering. The 40B expansion inside the first month, before the first divs was too far too fast. Unfortunately this has turned out to be true.
To build reputation you have to be successful in running a public business, with on time divs and excellent communication. Atima has done nothing to improve his/her reputation, the reporting is non-existant, the plan is in trouble and the divs aren't paid on time. Three strikes I'm afraid.
However this business turns out, I chalk this one up to a bad investor experience. Maybe I get flamed for being negative or having a go at Atima, but this is poor.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.02.26 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson
At what point would you consider acceptable age to throw 60b at?
Its thread jacking but really there is no set time, its all up to how investors respond more or less.
Personally speaking, unless you have a proven track of success I won't throw anything at anyone asking more than 10b |
No Profit
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Posted - 2009.02.26 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray Not age, reputation.
He had the rep to pull off 20B because he secured 16B, so it was only a 4B offering. The 40B expansion inside the first month, before the first divs was too far too fast. Unfortunately this has turned out to be true.
To build reputation you have to be successful in running a public business, with on time divs and excellent communication. Atima has done nothing to improve his/her reputation, the reporting is non-existant, the plan is in trouble and the divs aren't paid on time. Three strikes I'm afraid.
However this business turns out, I chalk this one up to a bad investor experience. Maybe I get flamed for being negative or having a go at Atima, but this is poor.
I think you're being premature.
Atima has always said that the first few months of divs would be at the minimum 4%.
How about we see what happens after that period before we start saying whether it's failed or not.
Fact is, Atima has been clear about the returns we can expect (after some initial confusion over the first few minimum payments) and has been honest with the problems bought about by the rapid expansion. He/She has also been diligent in taking the time to look at the possible solutions and communicating those to investors both on an individual and group level.
I agree that there have been problems but I think it's a little early to write this one off as a bad investment.
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Forceflow
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.02.26 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: No Profit I think you're being premature.
Atima has always said that the first few months of divs would be at the minimum 4%.
How about we see what happens after that period before we start saying whether it's failed or not.
Fact is, Atima has been clear about the returns we can expect (after some initial confusion over the first few minimum payments) and has been honest with the problems bought about by the rapid expansion. He/She has also been diligent in taking the time to look at the possible solutions and communicating those to investors both on an individual and group level.
I agree that there have been problems but I think it's a little early to write this one off as a bad investment.
I think you're missing Cosmoray's point. Hes not talking about the low 4% divs. Hes more concerned about the lack of divs.
I personally would like to see more updates from Atima. The late divs I can put aside as RL concerns but Atima should have at least informed us of such a development if it were the case. Especially after the deadline on voting to reduce the security has passed and we have had no word on how it is progressing.
I do hope Atima will keep us more in the loop with what is happening and the business be brought back on a more stable footing.
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