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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.29 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: lecrotta on 29/01/2009 19:29:54
 Originally by: Embarcadero
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Embarcadero
Originally by: TZeer
had 1 sensorbooster fitted.
So what? There is no evidence he had it activated.
Sig amps do not need activating noob.
L2 read kid
Ninja edits cos of stupidity are lol.....i can see the original...noob.
Anyway now the troll has been once again dealt with BOOST ECCM BY GIVING IT A BONUS TO REDUCING SIG RADIUS!!!!!!. |
Cohkka
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2009.01.29 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta
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Anyway now the troll has been once again dealt with
You going already? |
Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2009.01.29 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Naomi Wildfire
People always say that the tank of a falcon is made of paper but lets compare to the other recons.
Rapier: max 2 Webs
Arazu: 2 Scrams
Pilgrim: 2 Tracking Disrupts
Falcon: 5-6 Jammer
Every recon fits a tank to survive except the Falcon. Fit it like the other Recons and it could tank and would be in line but falcon pilots cut off the tank and reduce it to its jamming ability whining about its paper tank and why it needs its range.
Remove its Range Bonus and i dont mind if it gets drone bay
Rapier - 6 mid slots
Arazu - 6 mid slots
Pilgrim - 5 mid slots
Falcon - 7 mid slots
except the Pilgrim, all others can fit quite a lot of ewar too ... why limit to 2-3 modules ? |
lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.29 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Cohkka
Originally by: lecrotta
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Anyway now the troll has been once again dealt with
You going already?
Why would i do that when i can sit and admire your cutting insights and the awesome content of your posts.... |
TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2009.01.29 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: TZeer on 29/01/2009 19:45:04
Quote:
blah-blah-blah
http://udie.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=34124
http://udie.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=33725
Remember those yes. If you dig a little more you also find out thats not the fit we use. That was some "personal" fits on their behalf. Looks like have had a good peek in our KB, any more of those?
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So what? There is no evidence he had it activated.
True, but there is also no evidence he didnt. But I forgot, we are putting the falcons in the worst possible position right? Unaware, noobish, blindly jumping into a system, most likely afk right?
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You showed me 4 your usual ganks using sniper ravens with RSD's. Thats rubbish and proves NOTHING.
Spin more.
Ganks, maybe. But it still shows that the falcon was unable to jam a single BS. Even if the raven had 2 scan resolution scripts loaded, the falcon still locks twice as fast compared to the raven. So the falcon should have had first lock ability.
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Embarcadero
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: TZeer
Quote:
blah-blah-blah
http://udie.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=34124
http://udie.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=33725
Remember those yes. If you dig a little more you also find out thats not the fit we use. That was some "personal" fits on their behalf. Looks like have had a good peek in our KB, any more of those?
Nice spinning... Good peek lol its a latest raven losses of those pilots who did kills from the mails you linked. So dont give me this crap anymore.
Originally by: TZeer
Ganks, maybe. But it still shows that the falcon was unable to jam a single BS. Even if the raven had 2 scan resolution scripts loaded, the falcon still locks twice as fast compared to the raven. So the falcon should have had first lock ability.
Blah blah blah. You and me and anyone else with even little bit of clue know those ravens had 3 resolution scripts loaded and engaged at close to 60kms distance.
More spinning please. I find it very enterntaining. :>
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Embarcadero
Blah blah blah. You and me and anyone else with even little bit of clue know those ravens had 3 resolution scripts loaded and engaged at close to 60kms distance.
And the falcons just sat and broke jump cloak without activating warp, or cloaking up, even when the ravens landed and started locking.....
Do you honestly believe your own crap, and are you deluded enough to think anybody else does?...
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Embarcadero
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta
And the falcons just sat and broke jump cloak without activating warp, or cloaking up, even when the ravens landed and started locking.....
Do you honestly believe your own crap, and are you deluded enough to think anybody else does?...
If you really were in BE like you claimed you'd know - 100% of the engagements is when they jump on ppl not other way around.
Pathetic noob.
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:17:00 -
[489]
Originally by: Embarcadero
Originally by: TZeer
Quote:
blah-blah-blah
http://udie.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=34124
http://udie.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=33725
Remember those yes. If you dig a little more you also find out thats not the fit we use. That was some "personal" fits on their behalf. Looks like have had a good peek in our KB, any more of those?
Nice spinning... Good peek lol its a latest raven losses of those pilots who did kills from the mails you linked. So dont give me this crap anymore.
Originally by: TZeer
Ganks, maybe. But it still shows that the falcon was unable to jam a single BS. Even if the raven had 2 scan resolution scripts loaded, the falcon still locks twice as fast compared to the raven. So the falcon should have had first lock ability.
Blah blah blah. You and me and anyone else with even little bit of clue know those ravens had 3 resolution scripts loaded and engaged at close to 60kms distance.
More spinning please. I find it very enterntaining. :>
Even if the raven had 3 scripts loaded, the falcon still have first lock ability. If the falcon had used it`s sensorbooster the falcon would be close to twice as fast...
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: lecrotta on 29/01/2009 20:19:45
Originally by: Embarcadero
Originally by: lecrotta
And the falcons just sat and broke jump cloak without activating warp, or cloaking up, even when the ravens landed and started locking.....
Do you honestly believe your own crap, and are you deluded enough to think anybody else does?...
If you really were in BE like you claimed you'd know - 100% of the engagements is when they jump on ppl not other way around.
Pathetic noob.
BE camp gates muppet they do jump through them on occasion but not that often, so the fact you claim that a falcon just happened to jump in, break its jump cloak without warping to a object/gate, and sits there uncloaked while the ravens warpin/uncloak (or both) and start locking and shooting is the most pathetically weak troll i have ever heard.
Just go away. |
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Embarcadero
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: TZeer
Even if the raven had 3 scripts loaded, the falcon still have first lock ability. If the falcon had used it`s sensorbooster the falcon would be close to twice as fast...
No he had not because you jumped on him, surprise + reaction time + panic when his ship somehow got nearly popped after first volley and he's dead. You know it yourself.
I repeat stop playing 'look im idiot' games. |
Embarcadero
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta
BE camp gates muppet they do jump through them on occasion but not that often, so the fact you claim that a falcon just happened to jump in, break its jump cloak without warping to a object/gate, and sits there uncloaked while the ravens warpin/uncloak (or both) and start locking and shooting is the most pathetically weak troll i have ever heard.
Just go away.
Your trolling attempts get weaker and weaker. :> Poor little forum warrior got lost and ****ted his pants, aww... |
lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Embarcadero
Originally by: TZeer
Even if the raven had 3 scripts loaded, the falcon still have first lock ability. If the falcon had used it`s sensorbooster the falcon would be close to twice as fast...
No he had not because you jumped on him, surprise + reaction time + panic when his ship somehow got nearly popped after first volley and he's dead.
How many ships, (let alone falcons that can cloak) break jump cloak by just aligning, and then sit while a ship lands/uncloaks and locks it for over 10 seconds if not longer???........
You sad sad little boy... |
Embarcadero
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:28:00 -
[494]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Embarcadero
Originally by: TZeer
Even if the raven had 3 scripts loaded, the falcon still have first lock ability. If the falcon had used it`s sensorbooster the falcon would be close to twice as fast...
No he had not because you jumped on him, surprise + reaction time + panic when his ship somehow got nearly popped after first volley and he's dead.
How many ships, (let alone falcons that can cloak) break jump cloak by just aligning, and then sit while a ship lands/uncloaks and locks it for over 10 seconds if not longer???........
You sad sad little boy...
Try to put at least a tiny bit of sense into your next post dude. :> |
Naomi Knight
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:28:00 -
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Why dont we nerf in abc order :) so lets start with abaddon^^ |
lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:29:00 -
[496]
Edited by: lecrotta on 29/01/2009 20:30:38
How many ships, (let alone falcons that can cloak) break jump cloak by just aligning, and then sit while a ship lands/uncloaks and locks it for over 10 seconds if not longer???........
You sad sad little boy...
BOOST ECCM BY GIVING IT A BONUS TO REDUCING SIG RADIUS!!!!!!. |
Naomi Knight
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:38:00 -
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Reducing sign radis is no good as it is a huge nerf for missile users. Why not should it give some resists against other ewars? like 20-30% reduction in effectiveness against tracking distruptors or dampeners used against you. Could be made scripted :)
So it would like an ewar resist.
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:44:00 -
[498]
Originally by: Embarcadero
Originally by: TZeer
Even if the raven had 3 scripts loaded, the falcon still have first lock ability. If the falcon had used it`s sensorbooster the falcon would be close to twice as fast...
No he had not because you jumped on him, surprise + reaction time + panic when his ship somehow got nearly popped after first volley and he's dead. You know it yourself.
I repeat stop playing 'look im idiot' games.
You can have 2 scenarios.
Both favours the falcon.
Raven is comming out of warp, gives him a few extra seconds to react, cause the ship needs to exit warp completely before it can do anything.
Raven is already sitting there uncloaked. He has 30 sec to think about what to do before the cloak drops by itself.
I`m not the one denying every little bit of info posted here.
You are the one acting like a little kid calling names and completely ignoring known facts and threating every falcon pilot who dies as noobs who panics.
And even then we still have 183 falcons on our killboard from the last 12 months. Some of them might be friendly. But even if some of the kills are friendlies, the number speaks for itself.
Anyway, keep living in denial, will just get you killed. To bad you need to hide behind an alt. But with the drivel you are typing im not surprised.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: lecrotta on 29/01/2009 20:46:14
Originally by: Naomi Knight
Reducing sign radis is no good as it is a huge nerf for missile users. Why not should it give some resists against other ewars? like 20-30% reduction in effectiveness against tracking distruptors or dampeners used against you. Could be made scripted :)
So it would like an ewar resist.
Not a bad idea with the scripts for buffs different systems as long as they did not give boost when a ship was not being damped/TD'd ect, although i personally think having eccm (the anti caldari ewar system) also help against missiles (caldari weapons) is kinda makes sense with the storyline.
Although a bunch of them as travel fits would make locking and catching ceptors in low sec a pain.
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Naomi Knight
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:49:00 -
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Yeah but missiles already way weaker than turrets why nerf them more? If missiles were as good choice as turrets i would say go for it ,but as it is now it should be boosted instead of another nerf. |
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Embarcadero
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: TZeer
You can have 2 scenarios.
Both favours the falcon.
More bs. Falcons never sit anywhere decloaked without purpose. If he had been decloaked means he was there to jam someone and I bet that someone wasn't the raven pilot who popped him. And even more possible that it was someone dual logged, so he decloaks falcon, alt-tabs to his alt while timer ticks off, alt-tabs back and find himself in a pod.
There is ****TONS of scenarios.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Naomi Knight
Yeah but missiles already way weaker than turrets why nerf them more? If missiles were as good choice as turrets i would say go for it ,but as it is now it should be boosted instead of another nerf.
I cannot argue with that tbh as missiles do need a bit of a buff, although the eccm acting a little like the equivalent of a missile Tracking Disruptor as well as a buff against ecm would be appealing if missiles worked better/properly.. |
Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Embarcadero
Originally by: TZeer
You can have 2 scenarios.
Both favours the falcon.
More bs. Falcons never sit anywhere decloaked without purpose. If he had been decloaked means he was there to jam someone and I bet that someone wasn't the raven pilot who popped him. And even more possible that it was someone dual logged, so he decloaks falcon, alt-tabs to his alt while timer ticks off, alt-tabs back and find himself in a pod.
There is ****TONS of scenarios.
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congrats on post number 500 in this thread .. you're an EPIC troll, you are twisting your own words when it does not suit you what you said previously :-) |
Embarcadero
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Hugh Ruka
Originally by: Embarcadero
Originally by: TZeer
You can have 2 scenarios.
Both favours the falcon.
More bs. Falcons never sit anywhere decloaked without purpose. If he had been decloaked means he was there to jam someone and I bet that someone wasn't the raven pilot who popped him. And even more possible that it was someone dual logged, so he decloaks falcon, alt-tabs to his alt while timer ticks off, alt-tabs back and find himself in a pod.
There is ****TONS of scenarios.
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congrats on post number 500 in this thread .. you're an EPIC troll, you are twisting your own words when it does not suit you what you said previously :-)
Twisted my own words? Where? Point me.
p.s. oh hai2u lectroota's main. :>
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Embarcadero
p.s. oh hai2u lectroota's main. :>
The paranoia is strong in this one....
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Tibrius Archer
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Tibrius Archer on 29/01/2009 22:00:22
Also the falcon is never accidentally countered that's why its so good. 50% of ships have Sensor boost (Gallante F.R). A lot of ships have tracking links tracking computers or just have missile systems (amarr F.R), 50% i'd say have MWD.(min F.R)
But how many carry sensor strength boosters? They do nothing beneficial excepted waste a slot until the moment your jammed. Thats why falcons are over powered Ultra effective because the counter equipment is NEVER fitted as it has no other use.
P.S I have come back from a break, no one uses them still right?
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.29 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: lecrotta on 29/01/2009 22:05:52
Originally by: Tibrius Archer
Also the falcon is never accidentally countered that's why its so good. 50% of ships have Sensor boost (Gallante F.R). A lot of ships have tracking links tracking computers or just have missile systems (amarr F.R), 50% i'd say have MWD.(min F.R)
But how many carry sensor strength boosters? They do nothing beneficial excepted waste a slot until the moment your jammed. Thats why falcons are over powered Ultra effective because the counter equipment is NEVER fitted.
P.S I have come back from a break, no one uses them still right?
Most gank/tank fans do not fit eccm as it takes up a precious slot on a couple of their ships...
Although theirs actually a lot of support from both sides for a buff and a extra and useful effect to eccm, although it has been shown how effective a single eccm unit alone can be on just a couple of ships in a gang on this very thread..
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Embarcadero
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Posted - 2009.01.29 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Embarcadero
There is ****TONS of scenarios.
LULZ tons and tons of scenarios that a falcon can be killed.........gotta love a fella that is so dumb he kicks his own butt...
No its you who kicked your own ass as you don't understand very simple and basic things. Any recon, hell any ship can be killed. Even titans in the days when they were totally immune to everything. Who knows maybe those Falcons were killed after they logged off?..
Falcon is overpowered in the mean of the gang role, its ewar effectiveness is overpowered. Try to put this simple statement into your sick stupid head. |
The Tzar
Malicious Intentions
The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.29 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta
Thats why everybody fully supports a second effect being given to eccm, my favorite was a sig radius reduction as it fits nice with the fact that ecm is a caldari ewar system and their missiles are most effected by sig radius..so the eccm would truly;y be a counter caldari mod.
...this idea instead of range would truly fitting, balanced and interesting in post QR patches. An anti-painter if you will. |
lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.29 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: lecrotta on 29/01/2009 22:14:39
Originally by: The Tzar
Originally by: lecrotta
Thats why everybody fully supports a second effect being given to eccm, my favorite was a sig radius reduction as it fits nice with the fact that ecm is a caldari ewar system and their missiles are most effected by sig radius..so the eccm would truly;y be a counter caldari mod.
...this idea instead of range would truly fitting, balanced and interesting in post QR patches. An anti-painter if you will.
ECCM does not have range unless your counting the remote ones. |
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