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Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.13 01:49:00 - [151] i loose ship get insurance and then buy ships carebears is boring as post above i only have 50 mill now i will eventually have to do a week of carebearing but im not looking foward to it =( This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
Citizen AQ670E14	Posted - 2009.02.13 01:52:00 - [152] I'm not rich
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.13 01:53:00 - [153] Originally by: Citizen AQ670E14 I'm not rich join the club This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
Citizen AQ670E14	Posted - 2009.02.13 01:54:00 - [154] Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: Citizen AQ670E14 I'm not rich join the club Will there be pie and punch?
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.13 01:56:00 - [155] Originally by: Citizen AQ670E14 Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: Citizen AQ670E14 I'm not rich join the club Will there be pie and punch? there will be cak...there will be pie This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
Citizen AQ670E14	Posted - 2009.02.13 02:00:00 - [156] Edited by: Citizen AQ670E14 on 13/02/2009 02:00:21 Originally by: Armoured C there will be cak...there will be pie How can you afford? You're not rich
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.13 02:01:00 - [157] Originally by: Citizen AQ670E14 Edited by: Citizen AQ670E14 on 13/02/2009 02:00:21 Originally by: Armoured C there will be cak...there will be pie How can you afford? You're not rich it not my pie :) This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
Citizen AQ670E14	Posted - 2009.02.13 02:03:00 - [158] Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: Citizen AQ670E14 Edited by: Citizen AQ670E14 on 13/02/2009 02:00:21 Originally by: Armoured C there will be cak...there will be pie How can you afford? You're not rich it not my pie :) I see what you did there
WaltDisney	Posted - 2009.02.13 02:07:00 - [159] I spent all my isk on my cryogenics
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.13 02:12:00 - [160] Originally by: WaltDisney I spent all my isk on my cryogenics you kidding me with the name killed by waltdisney lol This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
Citizen AQ670E14	Posted - 2009.02.13 02:14:00 - [161] Originally by: WaltDisney I spent all my isk on my cryogenics The fact that you are not an "!" means that you have had that char for a while. I would have sworn it was made specifically for that joke!
Guillame Herschel Gallente Buffalo Soldiers	Posted - 2009.02.13 02:16:00 - [162] Originally by: Avon I remember when a t1 cruiser was a big deal, and a battleship was a dream. I remember when a cruiser was a corporation-sized investment, and there were no battleships. I was one of the first in my old corp to train Gallente cruiser. Can you imagine how it felt when the corp's Exequeror that we worked for almost a month to build and which they entrusted me to fly, got blown out from under me? THAT was frickin risk. *-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then* --**
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.13 02:16:00 - [163] he been waiting for that for years since beta for that =P This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
Citizen AQ670E14	Posted - 2009.02.13 02:20:00 - [164] Originally by: Guillame Herschel Originally by: Avon I remember when a t1 cruiser was a big deal, and a battleship was a dream. I remember when a cruiser was a corporation-sized investment, and there were no battleships. I was one of the first in my old corp to train Gallente cruiser. Can you imagine how it felt when the corp's Exequeror that we worked for almost a month to build and which they entrusted me to fly, got blown out from under me? THAT was frickin risk. Was there no insurance? Or were minerals way above insurance pay back then?
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.13 02:22:00 - [165] Originally by: Citizen AQ670E14 Originally by: Guillame Herschel Originally by: Avon I remember when a t1 cruiser was a big deal, and a battleship was a dream. I remember when a cruiser was a corporation-sized investment, and there were no battleships. I was one of the first in my old corp to train Gallente cruiser. Can you imagine how it felt when the corp's Exequeror that we worked for almost a month to build and which they entrusted me to fly, got blown out from under me? THAT was frickin risk. Was there no insurance? Or were minerals way above insurance pay back then? i remember insurance from RMR i wasnt in the game any earlier that maybe 2 week before RMR realsed This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
Gealbhan Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.13 03:32:00 - [166] I wouldn't class myself as rich in eve-o.
Mr Crowley Minmatar Rising Ashes INC SATRAPY	Posted - 2009.02.13 06:03:00 - [167] Seems to me that a skill point loss is a cheap generic band aid to the real problem of to much isk in eve. Or The lack of balance of isk in eve vs empire/non empire and professions. A more intelligent choice for this would be to gain some balance. By 1) Reducing the profitability of high lvl missions and moving them ALL into lower security 2) Figuring out how to stop the macro miners who flood the markets with mins reducing the values No discussion of moderation in signatures please - email us if you have any questions - Jacques([email protected])
James Malice Gallente Coalition Of Resolution	Posted - 2009.02.13 06:04:00 - [168] I don't fly anything i can't afford to lose ISK wise. I think the point the guy was trying to make is that t3 will be so good at what they do, that people who can afford the ISK loss will still want to fly t3, but will actualy have to weigh the risk in loss of time skill training. ISK has lost much of it's value, because it's there to be gained and lost, SP hasn't because once you get it, you keep it, that's now it's been since the begining unless you're podded without an updated clone, which always sucks. Originally by: MooKids I like them, I have an elite rating in HULL TANKING! That is like saying I can block punches with my face.
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.13 06:12:00 - [169] Originally by: Bethulsunamen So the only people that should be in 0.0 are people that have been playing for 3 years already? Its amazing how hostile this community is to new players, yet new players is exactly what this game (and all mmo's) need to grow. Its sort of counter-productive to only cater to the few hardcore players.. Nope, he's saying that people who suck at playing can't cut it in 0.0. And only those who are members of failed corps, 3 year old chars or not, are the only ones that can't sc**** together enough for covering the cost of replacing a BS or 20. If you are failing to understand what he's saying, then either you're an empire carebear or part of one of those failed 0.0 corpses that can barely keep themselves supplied with replacement ships.
Junko Togawa	Posted - 2009.02.13 06:16:00 - [170] Originally by: Kahega Amielden Pretty much QFT everything Insa said. CCP wants to-they've mentioned it was their intention-the question is, how do they do it while causing as little e-drama as possible. They can't. State of the game enables PvP quite well, IMO. Easy to get money, ships are cheap because of mass production, means those who want to can get right on out there and do it. Oops, my ship went pop! Oh well, cheap to replace. Make money and resources harder to come by, that slows down production, that means ships and equipment cost more and people are less willing to risk things, not more. Where people were more readily zipping about in T2 ships, they start using T1 ships. Fewer people want to PvP because it becomes more expensive. People become frustrated that they have to sink more time for less gain. Maybe RMT salves this; more likely, people play less, not more. Less people play, fewer people to PvP with, fewer people doing manufacturing and resource gathering that keeps the economy rolling. Server pop starts to drop instead of rise. Infrastructure begins to rot and crumble. Goons dance on the ruins and lol at everyone. Not that they needed an excuse. Look at it like this: With the current state of affairs, the server pop is rising, not falling. You think you're too rich? Throw some of that cash away, if you've got so much. Do less work to maintain it. Long as CCP makes money, they can continue to give you new ways to throw that cash away.
Lurana Jade Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.02.13 06:17:00 - [171] Quote: 1) Reducing the profitability of high lvl missions and moving them ALL into lower security Then people zerg 3's. Or quit. Bad idea. It solves nothing. You still won't get any faction fitted pve lardasses at that gate you sit at.
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2009.02.13 07:09:00 - [172] I agree with one of the people that posted before me. Destroy all that which is evil, so that which is good may flourish.
James Malice Gallente Coalition Of Resolution	Posted - 2009.02.13 07:18:00 - [173] Originally by: Empyre I agree with one of the people that posted before me. was it me? Originally by: MooKids I like them, I have an elite rating in HULL TANKING! That is like saying I can block punches with my face.
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2009.02.13 07:24:00 - [174] Originally by: James Malice Originally by: Empyre I agree with one of the people that posted before me. was it me? no sorry maybe next time. Destroy all that which is evil, so that which is good may flourish.
James Malice Gallente Coalition Of Resolution	Posted - 2009.02.13 07:36:00 - [175] Originally by: Empyre Originally by: James Malice Originally by: Empyre I agree with one of the people that posted before me. was it me? no sorry maybe next time. Dang... dreams shattered again. :( Originally by: MooKids I like them, I have an elite rating in HULL TANKING! That is like saying I can block punches with my face.
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Burning Horizons	Posted - 2009.02.13 07:41:00 - [176] I don't know about the rest of you but I"m not that rich, I'm trying to sc**** enough together for a skill book right nos such I've not been able to replace my last battleship loss yet. Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts. Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Lone Davinel Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2009.02.13 08:41:00 - [177] Edited by: Lone Davinel on 13/02/2009 08:41:47 A week ago I had 25 million isk. Now I have 500 million. Station trading wins? I pvp and every hour I switch to the other client I have open and updated my orders... then back to PVP or w/e I'm doing on my main. Honestly the isk I'm going to make with my alt will pay for its account GTC easily and the rest I can use to buy shiny stuff.
Rordan D'Kherr	Posted - 2009.02.13 09:40:00 - [178] Originally by: McTard How about you? And your friends? All you all too rich? Is there not enough to risk in EVE? There is no risk making millions and millions in empire with rediculous high bounties and mission rewards...
Ralitge boyter Minmatar BrightSpark Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.13 10:43:00 - [179] We are not so much to rich but it is to easy to make ISK, I mean loose a T2 battleship with all faction mods and within a month every single one of us is able to replace it completely. ISK is easy to come by not that this is a new thing but because people have worked out the optimal ISK/h stuff to do, and the macro miners supply nearly free minerals and ice keeping the prices down. The newer ships have made the older once ever cheaper. Buy a Caldari Navy Raven a year a go and you front about 1B just for the ship, now they are selling in Jita for about 200M because the Golem is a far better ship for mission running, and the Calradi Navy Raven lost it's edge. The same thing happend to mining lasers, (strip miners) cruisers (HAC), battle cruisers (Command ships) etc, even the all powerful battle ship is just another step towards the dreadnaught, carrier, motheership or even titan. Research, is faster and thus cheaper because of POS's the same with manufacturing and invention killed the artificial high prices of the T2 gear and ships. CCP could have known this would happen and it is not that we are all to rich it is that CCP has made the bassis of the economie produce a lot faster and more efficient. Not killing macro's more effective, offering POS labs and manufacturing slots, adding jump bridges, jump freighters, freighters and so on all help to reduce the labor cost to produce items thus driving the prices down, keeping more money in the pocket of the average joe giving him an easier way to replace a loss. In the old days 400M was a heck of a lot, A battleship cost between 100 and 200M and only a rare few players had more then 1B in their wallet. Now if you don't have at least several billions of ISK you are considdered poor. This is a result of the fact that more ISK buys better systems that make more ISK that buy better systems that make more ISK. This is a situation that CCP could and sould have seen comming years ago. New players will not be held back by lack of skills they will learn from the mistakes of the older players and in that way gain the knowledge to make more ISK faster. There is no real way to stop this people have a tendency to grow in all ways. ------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.02.13 11:17:00 - [180] Originally by: McTard I suppose that all this means we will see a massive Empire missioning nerf coming in M10 or soon after, thinly disguised as a "Massive Mission AI boost! More mission love and exciting new things to do!" Prepare the Wambulance then. Don't tease me like that, it's mean

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