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Judas Jones
Amarr Black Company
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Hey, your bug...
Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive
I found it in the player guide.
You guys better get in there and ninja-edit it.
Caught being decietful to your player base again CCP... forshame!
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Karyyana
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 13/10/2008 23:33:16 Drama inc
Edit: I'd like to use this space to preemptively ask for your stuff if you're deciding to quit
Dude, your face!
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Angelic Eviaran
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:16:00 -
[453]
Can I haz it? All teh stuffz?
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:16:00 -
[454]
Originally by: Bonefish O'Hallahan
What we used to have is the option for players to either play while they train, like you're saying, OR to wait a little while for their next big toy and come in ready to go. Now, you HAVE to do it the way you're saying, to the detriment of those with limited means, casual players, and anyone who just prefers that playstyle.
I'm a pretty casual player (seriously), and I just keep my accounts active. If all these people saying they are going to cancel accounts are from the "limited means" group, how much revenue are CCP actually going to lose? If they are rotating accounts then it doesn't really matter how many they have, does it? Just how many they pay for at any one time.
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Danny Centurai
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:16:00 -
[455]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Majiir Sjet All those respectable persons who posted here that they have not used ghost training before are either new to the game, jealous of other people for doing so or CCP employees...
Honestly, have you guys EVER trained a 60 day+ skill on your subbed time? I don't think so.
You think I would stop playing a 70mil+ SP character just because I am training a long skill?
Nope but the noob training BC V for his drake will, CCP do not care about older players they want new players.
I personally started my alt whilst training BC V out of boredem; I switched between chars as each did long skills. Lots of people did this, I honestly can see a firesale on alts coming up soon!
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Leila Cross
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:17:00 -
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I, for one, have printed a copy of the player guide page (with the url, date, and time on the top) and stashed it away.
Quite frankly there has to be someone out there who knows a lawyer who is going to figure out a way to turn this into a "breach of contract" case. I can see it now:
"My client paid for two subscriptions based in part on the understanding that his chracter skill training would continue uninterrupted while his accounts were inactive. This understanding was reinforced by CCP's own player guide which touted this ability as a game feature. my client has been lied to, and CCP has breached the contract that my client agreed to when he initially subscribed X years ago."
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Huan Hunglong
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:18:00 -
[457]
Another blatent CCP lie!
A BUG FIX????
Bullshit, your own player guide states Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive (in the second scenario you can't change skill training, though).
Best you update your player guide to reflect your lies.
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Tri Midir
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:18:00 -
[458]
What are you guys talking about, I bought a car once cause when I test drove it there was a nice CD player in it. Of course a few months later they took the CD player away. Isn't stuff like this normal??
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Hammeroffire
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:18:00 -
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Economics is the social science of the study of the choices of individuals, corperations, and society during times of Scarcity.
Today is a very scarce time.
Individuals want to increase the utility of everything. Two things can happen to increase this.
Price of the same "utility" object can go down, increasing it's "dollar to unit of utility" value.
Similarly, The quality of the item can go up, without the price going up. This is a pure increase in utility.
Often times individuals will be willing to pay more for a good or service that is of higher utility than to pay less for a good or service of lower quality.
Let's apply that here 1. Increased the cost of the product. Unifying all GTC to the 6 month standard. This will work if the quality or Utility of the service you are providing increases.
But then you did THIS 2. Reduced the utility from the product. By removing the "Ghost Training" as you call it, You will SIGNIFIGANTLY REDUCE THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT, RESULTING IN A LOWERED UTILITY OF THE CONSUMER, RESULTING IN LOWERED DEMAND FOR THE PRODUCT.
Now you know.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:18:00 -
[460]
Originally by: Danny Centurai
Nope but the noob training BC V for his drake will, CCP do not care about older players they want new players.
I personally started my alt whilst training BC V out of boredem; I switched between chars as each did long skills. Lots of people did this, I honestly can see a firesale on alts coming up soon!
I just kept playing while I was training. Why wouldn't you?
Your character isn't somehow crippled while he is training a long skill. He is just as good as he was when he finished his last skill.
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Bonefish O'Hallahan
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Leila Cross I, for one, have printed a copy of the player guide page (with the url, date, and time on the top) and stashed it away.
Quite frankly there has to be someone out there who knows a lawyer who is going to figure out a way to turn this into a "breach of contract" case. I can see it now:
"My client paid for two subscriptions based in part on the understanding that his chracter skill training would continue uninterrupted while his accounts were inactive. This understanding was reinforced by CCP's own player guide which touted this ability as a game feature. my client has been lied to, and CCP has breached the contract that my client agreed to when he initially subscribed X years ago."
CCP, I would be worried.
Yes, hire a lawyer and sue them over your 15 bucks
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Danny Centurai
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:19:00 -
[462]
Originally by: Leila Cross I, for one, have printed a copy of the player guide page (with the url, date, and time on the top) and stashed it away.
Quite frankly there has to be someone out there who knows a lawyer who is going to figure out a way to turn this into a "breach of contract" case. I can see it now:
"My client paid for two subscriptions based in part on the understanding that his chracter skill training would continue uninterrupted while his accounts were inactive. This understanding was reinforced by CCP's own player guide which touted this ability as a game feature. my client has been lied to, and CCP has breached the contract that my client agreed to when he initially subscribed X years ago."
CCP, I would be worried.
As I said earlier covered by EULA, sucks ass worse change ever but they had their lawyers ready. ;)
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Trzzbk
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tri Midir What are you guys talking about, I bought a car once cause when I test drove it there was a nice CD player in it. Of course a few months later they took the CD player away. Isn't stuff like this normal??
The CD Player was a bug, they just didn't get around to fixing it for a while.
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Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:20:00 -
[464]
Originally by: Leila Cross I, for one, have printed a copy of the player guide page (with the url, date, and time on the top) and stashed it away.
Quite frankly there has to be someone out there who knows a lawyer who is going to figure out a way to turn this into a "breach of contract" case. I can see it now:
"My client paid for two subscriptions based in part on the understanding that his chracter skill training would continue uninterrupted while his accounts were inactive. This understanding was reinforced by CCP's own player guide which touted this ability as a game feature. my client has been lied to, and CCP has breached the contract that my client agreed to when he initially subscribed X years ago."
CCP, I would be worried.
hahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahah
Seriously, think before posting. Sure, people are upset, but to sue over this?
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Killer Rasta
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:20:00 -
[465]
As many of you know by now, on Wednesday, Oct 15th, CCP will put out a server update disabling "ghost training". Ghost Training was an unintended feature where unpaid accounts of EVE Online were able to continue training skills. While this allowed players to run multiple characters on a shoestring budget, in all effect, this was a bug..... Crap and lies. U did even promote ghost training as great side of eve on line,and now u r saying it was a bug. Why did u change thread on forumus,why did u start new one here,u dont want ppl to see what do we all think abouth your decision. That dev blog was writen as an answer to ppl posts,it is just resuming all our mesagis and giving us stupid reson why r you changing game.Cose of bug that was there for 5 years. Comon shame on you. What hapend in CCP,you got new directors,like hevy money wanters di..heads that want your firm to make more incomse and now r traying to seel us crapy storys abouth bugs. Shame on you.... This is what comuniti did say to your brainles proposal so ppl read this out before thay open a new thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=896003
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GO MaZ
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:20:00 -
[466]
FREE DIGITALCOMMUNIST ---
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Mongo Loid
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:21:00 -
[467]
I think it's pretty obvious what happened here. The result of that survey CCP paid for showed that a lot of people who suspended their accounts were doing so to do inactive training on long skills. So CCP figured by cutting that feature they'd keep subscriptions active constantly.
What they failed to realize was that a significant portion of accounts that use large amounts of inactive training time are alt accounts going through CCP's tedious grind for things like cap ships. It takes something like 8 months of training to go from nothing to a competent cap pilot, and a lot of that SP is wasted on skills that just aren't effective in the interim. So, rather than paying for an account for the better part of a year while it can't do all that much effectively, use 'ghost training' to cut down on the cost.
I think most of the people with semi-active alts in training like that will just drop them entirely. CCP's no doubt betting that enough of them will switch to full-time subscriptions, but I severely doubt it. |
Cueball Mcfuzz
Groon Research
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:21:00 -
[468]
Edited by: Cueball Mcfuzz on 14/10/2008 01:23:23 Edited by: Cueball Mcfuzz on 14/10/2008 01:22:37 stop deleting posts you gits
lol, the thread has moved up like 6 posts in the last 2 minutes, **** ccp
better check all the player guide and wrangler references are still around a few pages back...
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Bonefish O'Hallahan
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:22:00 -
[469]
Originally by: Trzzbk
Originally by: Tri Midir What are you guys talking about, I bought a car once cause when I test drove it there was a nice CD player in it. Of course a few months later they took the CD player away. Isn't stuff like this normal??
The CD Player was a bug, they just didn't get around to fixing it for a while.
quotin dis
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caio
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:22:00 -
[470]
by the way this topic goes, I hope CCP cancel this idea or they will lose cash instead of earning it using the wrong way.
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Dominion Mine
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:23:00 -
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I do understand that it is a business and you need to make money.
I am going to drop one of my alts because that was the only thing keeping that one alive.
On that note I would like to thank CCP for their incentive program on saving me money in these tough times.
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Cosy Ceaon
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:23:00 -
[472]
question: if all this was a BUG we all abused a BUG, CCP will ban all the player ?
common CCP respect you rules ban bug abusers nao
is a bug is a bug a buuuuuuuuuuuuug
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Mecanos
Caldari En plo
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:23:00 -
[473]
This account subscription ends in 12 days. Going to be deleted.
and some facts as others stated : u greedy maggots : u screwed gametime cards : ur rookie developers
and i could stand all that all this time cos i was BELIEVING that u cared for game and ur players.
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Suitonia
Gallente interimo
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:23:00 -
[474]
Notify: Damage Control II is already damageControl.
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Lia Athar
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:23:00 -
[475]
They will fail...
The question here is why they are doing this ?
They Need money to upgrade the Servers ? ______________________________________________________________ They donĘt give a Damm for the Customers We donĘt want this change, we love this Feature ( Not a Bug ) I hope they lose a lot of Money, and they reconsider this move. We pay a lot of money for this #*$#(# and they really donĘt respect us.
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Angelo Dell'Agio
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:23:00 -
[476]
I get the idea the moderation is becoming a tad over zealous ... cleaning up the rudeness and stupidity is fine, but there's stuff getting cleared out which fell in neither of those categories ..
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Leila Cross
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:24:00 -
[477]
Originally by: Bonefish O'Hallahan
Originally by: Leila Cross I, for one, have printed a copy of the player guide page (with the url, date, and time on the top) and stashed it away.
Quite frankly there has to be someone out there who knows a lawyer who is going to figure out a way to turn this into a "breach of contract" case. I can see it now:
"My client paid for two subscriptions based in part on the understanding that his chracter skill training would continue uninterrupted while his accounts were inactive. This understanding was reinforced by CCP's own player guide which touted this ability as a game feature. my client has been lied to, and CCP has breached the contract that my client agreed to when he initially subscribed X years ago."
CCP, I would be worried.
Yes, hire a lawyer and sue them over your 15 bucks
1. It's a hypothetical scenario. Chill-ax dude.
2. You forget, 15 bucks multiplied by x number of subscriptions multiplied again by x number of months subscribed, plus damages for a breach of contract multiplied by how ever number of people decide to hop on board a class action suit filed by a lawyer who works on contingency.
Sure, it's maybe a thousand dollars individually, but it's a huge amount of money CCP might have to shell out to all players subscribed prior to the patch.
Think big. As a group the players are more pwoerful than the devs. |
PsychoBones II
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:25:00 -
[478]
Originally by: Leila Cross I, for one, have printed a copy of the player guide page (with the url, date, and time on the top) and stashed it away.
Quite frankly there has to be someone out there who knows a lawyer who is going to figure out a way to turn this into a "breach of contract" case. I can see it now:
"My client paid for two subscriptions based in part on the understanding that his chracter skill training would continue uninterrupted while his accounts were inactive. This understanding was reinforced by CCP's own player guide which touted this ability as a game feature. my client has been lied to, and CCP has breached the contract that my client agreed to when he initially subscribed X years ago."
CCP, I would be worried.
You must be American.
Quit banning me. |
Bonefish O'Hallahan
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:25:00 -
[479]
Originally by: Leila Cross
Think big. As a group the players are more pwoerful than the devs.
THE REVOLUTION BEGINS TONIGHT
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Idara
Caldari Failure Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:26:00 -
[480]
Posting this gets you banned:
C/D? --- Failure Corp [FAILD] - Failing to fail first
in EVE - Idara |
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