...in a lowsec pocket, surrounded by highsec and full of incursioners. You think they're going to land 15+ ships in an OTA, stomp the incursion fleet, and gtfo without losing ships? And then they'll...what? Take their newly-trashed sec status and haul off to another incursion?

You're not thinking this through. Wiping a full fleet in an incursion would drop your sec status HARD. The people looking to do this wouldn't have a lot of sec to spare in the first place and would quickly plummet into the realm of "free kill" while they are surrounded by high-DPS fleets. Incursion piracy would actually be incredibly hard in such situations.

heh... be kinda hard for him... I understand he is on every single blacklist related to incursions in the game

-Arazel

How about you Mr. Floppie ? How about you go and actualy do them incursions now ? Get into a ship . Go into BTL Pub and get a fleet

ore is not created? Dude how long have you been playing eve? You make no sense at all. Do you even know what game you are playing? What hapens wen a ship is blown up. Does the isk get moved to the guy that blew that ship up? You are trying to talk aloot of sense into us here good sir but you are not making any sense your self, Have you run incurtions? Have you been in low sec hi sec null sec wormhole space? Have you been a part of a big alliance and got sucked into the bloody politics? How old are you ?

No, mining does not create isk. It creates ore.

Even if he wasent black listed. I Got a nightmare. I want to run incurtions. And for the last 2 days i have been on the channels posting my fits joining all the groups and yet NO FLEETS? why ? cause there are none. If you have a incurtion fleet up and running and need a high dps nightmare hit me up! ive been waiting for the last 4 hours for a fleet!

I have many bad economist ^^

More isk is good for pvp --> more loss
More isk is good for economy --> many buy
More isk is good for mining --> many build
More isk is only bad for Plex

Stopping plex trade and finished problem... ^^

Install a decreasing price over time for the player and other accout and problem is resolved, the economy was never as good as now...

Less isk is very bad for economy...and player.

Anyway there are players who hate to farme, which will buy always plex...
It will always be easier to work one hour Irl more than farmer
Not bother to hide the eyes, I'm right

these hisec bears have been spoiled by CCP for too long.

they're mad because they're in their right place.

if you claim that you're more about community and interactive between players, a bit reduce in isk wouldn't bother you

So what do you have to say to null/low sec Incursion runners that got hit too?

I dont see any nullsec corps complaining.

and since when NPC corps run incursion in nullsec?????

Let's try this again, the null/low sec Incursion runners have gone back (Hint: CFC Incursion group is dead now) to running Sanctums/Havens/Hubs solo in a Tengu because it's better ISK/h than Incursions, less risk and cost and we can still hang on comms because we're CFC wide, not just a public group.

Good enough you intellectually dishonest fool with an agenda?

dont be mad, I didn't say anything about null/low in my post, can you read??

Your intellectual/argumental fallacy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Now tell, me where did I ever say that you had commented on that? I didn't? Oh I didn't, I asked you a question that you didn't want to answer, why? Why wouldn't you just answer the question? Got something to hide?

EDIT: Also, we've seen people in NPC corps running low sec Incursions, we killed them and drove them off, to answer your question.

In before "ohlololol it was troll u stupid testie huehuehue" to deflect any shortcomings of your posting.

my thought about LS,NS https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1191897#post1191897

I'm happy with nerf on hisec incursion, I dont give a f*ck about you NS, if you want, complain with CCP

my thought about LS,NS https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1191897#post1191897

I'm happy with nerf on hisec incursion, I dont give a f*ck about you NS, if you want, complain with CCP

these hisec bears have been spoiled by CCP for too long.

they're mad because they're in their right place.

if you claim that you're more about community and interactive between players, a bit reduce in isk wouldn't bother you

I dont see any nullsec corps complaining.

I have a Nightmare, too. How I got it is why I'm blacklisted :D

Butterflies born the day the patch came out haven't even died yet, and everyone is throwing up their hands and acting like it's just the end of incursions. That should tell you just how "fun" incursions really are, when people simply bail out of them as soon as the isk faucet gets turned down.

While I agree, you have to admit the a decent rewards helps to make good content better. Not that incursions are that good content, but they are better content than L4s and should give better isk than l4 imo. Which they seem to give anymore, which leads me to my call for a mission nerf.

CCP, you stated that incursions were one of the best things to come to eve and that community aspect was something you wanted to maintain. Then you turn around and destroy it. GREAT JOB CCP!

- Those fleets that are running have got wait lists so long that most people end up dropping off before they even get into a fleet, and those people will likely end up just giving up on incursions all together becuase it just takes too long to get in to a fleet.

Perhaps they pulled head from ass and realized Incursions were actually one of the worst thing they had ever added to EVE. Also as evidenced by all the whines it was mostly about the risk free fountain of ISK not any community BS.




So there's lots of players waiting to get in an exiting fleet rather than taking the initiative and forming their own with all these others waiting?

well i am going to make it my goal to crack the code of incurtions . Drop the time down to 6 minutes per site. Put it up on youtube. And give all you haters the middle finger :D chao bello