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Atraxerxes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.07 17:26:00 -
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Let's face it, the Gallente Militia has all but effen quit FW.
And honestly I couldn't be more upset about it either. It gets boring winning all the time.
You guys have had former 0.0 corps, seriously skilled pilots, local pirates who are friendly with you and more, but you've basically drop the god damn ball over and over again.
Faction War is a game inside the game. Much like sovereignty is in null sec and market pvp is everywhere. Yet most of you Gallente toons have been playing like getting in epic 50 on 50 fleet battles means victory or killing noob militia pilots in Tama is a win.
My favorite part is when you post up on occupancy/plex threads that plexing doesn't matter.
WTF!? The only reason for FW is to take systems. It's like a capture the flag with pvp included. If you just want pvp, move to 0.0 or start to pirate.
So all you Ferris Buellers and other gal corps who will post up here about your killmails, as if the 22nd, ZiTek, the Pervs or CAIN, don't pvp on top of taking your regions and painting them blue.
Please post up here and flame us, because every post you make just shows us how ****ed off you are that we are winning and not that you are in it strictly for the 5000 war targets you get to shoot at, as you like to claim.
If you didn't care, you wouldn't be posting in FW threads. You'd just be out there pew pewwing, as happy as a pig in slop.
I'm Atraxerxes and I approve this message.
Nice Regions, we'll take them all.
"Green isn't a good color for us.
I think we'll paint this region BLUE."
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zombiedeadhead
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.07 17:30:00 -
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Plexing doesn't matter.
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Atraxerxes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.07 17:34:00 -
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LOL
That's one so far.
Please keep them coming.
"Green isn't a good color for us.
I think we'll paint this region BLUE."
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Lucretiea
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Posted - 2009.04.07 17:41:00 -
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Sweet, FW is over?
No more FW threads! \o/
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.04.07 18:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Lucretiea
Sweet, FW is over?
No more FW threads! \o/
This.
Maybe they can also get rid of this terrible forum too.
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.04.07 18:03:00 -
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Killmails give me no reward, atleast with plexing I get some faction point boost.
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Firkragg
Blue Labs
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.07 18:20:00 -
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wow you missed the point of the whole "plexing doesnt matter" thing. Basically while factional warefare was based around capturing systems there is almost 0 benefit in actually doing that. Not to mention that that part of FW can be skewed by the unbalanced number on each side.
The gal people dont bother with the plexing so much due to their lower numbers but claim they have more kills and are better at pvp which is what they see as being "better at FW".
Now not being affiliated with either side i cant confirm if they are actually better but i hope that explains why the really dont care if you carry on plexing your little caldari hearts out.
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.07 18:29:00 -
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NEEEEEERDD RAAAAAAGGGEEEE!
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Odewad
Gallente
Fat Boys need luvin too
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Posted - 2009.04.07 18:44:00 -
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Your whole problem, other than obvious E-peen envy, is you failed to notice that Gallente were French. You actually expected the French to fight for their territory? White flag, cheese and some wine please!
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Louis DelaBlanche
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2009.04.07 19:22:00 -
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u measure ur epeen by plexing, others measure theirs by killmails. Both have no greater consequence ingame except as something to smack/brag about. Enjoy
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TooNu
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.07 19:42:00 -
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win 
Oh, CAIN just handed 15 Gallente ships their asses, 4 vs 15 odds in failente favor oops 
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.07 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Odewad
Your whole problem, other than obvious E-peen envy, is you failed to notice that Gallente were French. You actually expected the French to fight for their territory? White flag, cheese and some wine please!
Yes, but they have learned a little. In WWII Germany captured France within 4 weeks in a blitzkrieg. It took Caldari over 9 months to do that with Gallente, so looks like the French have improved a bit - still not enough to stand against a nationalistic dictatorship.
I knew they would fail, it just took little longer than expected.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.04.07 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/04/2009 20:42:33
Originally by: Atraxerxes
WTF!? The only reason for FW is to take systems. It's like a capture the flag with pvp included. If you just want pvp, move to 0.0 or start to pirate.
I know 22ND has good players in it and can PvP effectively so this isn't a blam on FW corps, but the big problem with FW is that a lot of people see it as a PvE mechanic. You guys get thousands of potential targets dropped into your lap to PvP against, and FW should have centered its rewards around that instead of just making the PvP part incidental. FW's lameness emanates from the fact that its tangible rewards are essentially PvE-based, which the game didn't need more of tbh.
But that's just my two cents. I've never done FW I've just encountered its participants in the plexes in my home region, MWD'ing or cloaking or whatever until the plex is taken (or at best bringing a small gank squad in to treat it like a multiplayer mission.)
edit: actually wait I will blam FW corps here. My home region is Gallente, but all I see are guys from 22ND. What gives, Gallente militia? |
Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.04.07 21:13:00 -
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FW is dying!
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DaDutchDude
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.07 22:13:00 -
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My question: does the Caldari Militia want to be the goons of FW? c/d!
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Atraxerxes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.07 22:18:00 -
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Dirk, I couldn't agree more.
A system occupancy based off the number of troops killed as opposed to the number of Plexes (which do offer pvp) would have been much more desirable. But at the same time, systems like Intaki might have never fallen nor would any of Verge Vendor as the Gallente & Caldari militia seem to be interested in fighting in 3 systems only.
God bless corps liek WOLFY (yes I said it), FOOM and Dark Rising for actually getting the hell out of OMS, Heyd & Tama sometimes.
Sorry for any corp on the Gal's side i missed, but lets be honest, the 22nd hasn't exactly been keeping a low profile on what systems we hang out in. MoFo's know where to find us if they want to.
AX
"Green isn't a good color for us.
I think we'll paint this region BLUE."
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Atraxerxes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.07 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: DaDutchDude
My question: does the Caldari Militia want to be the goons of FW? c/d!
DUDE, if I can find a way to get my spies to hit the "retire" button for the Gal militia I'd do it in a second.
AX
"Green isn't a good color for us.
I think we'll paint this region BLUE."
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Infected Cure
Caldari
The Ninja Pirates
Gang Bang Theory
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Posted - 2009.04.07 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: Infected Cure on 07/04/2009 22:23:02
Originally by: Firkragg
wow you missed the point of the whole "plexing doesnt matter" thing. Basically while factional warefare was based around capturing systems there is almost 0 benefit in actually doing that.
Yeah, there is no point to plexing, zero benefit, cept for that fact that it means you won.
no point at all...
CALDARI RULE
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.07 23:17:00 -
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We didn't want those plexes anyway.
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Shun Makoto
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.08 01:08:00 -
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We win, your regions are ours. Give us the Sov and lets move on.
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Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: Verite Rendition on 08/04/2009 02:38:28
Originally by: Atraxerxes
My favorite part is when you post up on occupancy/plex threads that plexing doesn't matter.
Is that what's happening? I'm looking at the map since I'm probably going to have to edit it to fit a bigger occupancy list, and I've been wondering what's going on to make FW so one-sided as of late.
Is it just that the Gallente FW players aren't trying to protect their occupancy, or what?
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Selous
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.08 02:53:00 -
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Aah yes plexes
Tonight I go into a plex , start capturing the major with 16 minutes and counting down.
When the counter reaches 13 someting , it jumps to 26 minutes. ( I am not sure if this was just before or after a caldari militia buzzard jumped in )
The buzzard cloaks up and the timer simply shows contested.
So if I have this right, I can now kill all the npc sit here for ever and achieve nothing ?
WHY?
If I want to kill the npc I may as well go do a lev 4 and earn isk.
A mate of mine decided he wanted a buzzard kill so he put a helios in there to make it fair .
He reported that a caldari taranis simply orbited the thingy in there to capture the complex.
So the buzzard can stop me capturing it with no risk to him and a taranis can capture it ( with no buzzard I need reasonable firepower to clear it , and surplus ship/s to soak up the jamming ).
Complexs , you may take them , lube or not is your choice, and hide them from the sun as far as I am concerned. |
Ronin Reborn
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.08 04:35:00 -
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Plexing doesn't matter.
We're not playing your version of Faction Warfare.
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Atraxerxes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.08 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ronin Reborn
Plexing doesn't matter.
We're not playing your version of Faction Warfare.
So Bueller, how's is it again that Plexing doesn't matter. See because the last time I checked, the company that created EVE, you know, CCP, kind of wrote this little thing into the code called occupancy.
And once again, you taking the bait and posting here, proves my point that it does. If you didn't care you would have read this thread and said "meh". We're under your skin, you've been infected and you're going to help spread our name across the galaxy.
AX
"Green isn't a good color for us.
I think we'll paint this region BLUE."
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.04.08 04:52:00 -
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I'm dreaming that I can force Bad Messenger to make us became Minmatar militia and then we can start raping people in Motsu / Jita just like we do in Dodixie/whatever because Gallente FW people are nowadays so few ..
I'm halfway there done. Just wait Gallente, we are about to turn our coats!
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Ronin Reborn
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.08 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: Atraxerxes
Originally by: Ronin Reborn
Plexing doesn't matter.
We're not playing your version of Faction Warfare.
So Bueller, how's is it again that Plexing doesn't matter?
Name one way that it does.
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Flashh Gorden
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2009.04.08 05:31:00 -
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I think the OP is a little harsh this time. There is still some terrific action going on out there.
Akadagi/Nenamilia seems to be the frontlines atm although you can find small gangs from both sides out and about all over the place.
There is nothing more to say that has not been covered in atleast 2 or 3 other threads so im not getting invloved in this one any more.
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Lord Zekk
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.08 07:03:00 -
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Nice attempt to get these guys to care and hopefully try and fight back boss. Though after all the posts we've seen from most of the Frogs its pretty clear that the loss of so much territory has driven them crazy.
You know what Atra, I think they're right. You've got it all wrong. How does taking territory make the Caldari win. In the history of warfare when has taking over the enemies territory equaled winning if you've lost more troops in the battle. When the Goons take over territory from other alliances they don't really win because they have larger numbers and have taken more losses at times. Right?
NO WAIT, IT IS LOSING!!! Just because you want to pretend it's not losing doesn't make it so. It's like someone saying "I didn't lose because you destroyed my ship in PVP. It doesn't "really" mean anything and I don't lose because I said so." Guess what it is just a game and none of it "really" means anything. Though the point of faction warfare is to take over your enemies space.
Now killing the enemy might be a form of entertainment and I'm not saying that it isn't. I'm not saying you shouldn't join FW if you don't want to plex and you only want to PVP. That's all fine too. As Atra always says, "It's your 15$, do what you want." But, please don't pretend that losing space isn't losing in FW.
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Lord Zekk
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.08 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ronin Reborn
Originally by: Atraxerxes
Originally by: Ronin Reborn
Plexing doesn't matter.
We're not playing your version of Faction Warfare.
So Bueller, how's is it again that Plexing doesn't matter?
Name one way that it does.
You get occupancy which means the rats in the plexes are friendly. Now players will claim we don't fight in plexes so it doesn't matter. But a lot of people do. We killed a Domi with 2 rifters and a BB. That would not have been possible without the support of NPS rats in the unrestricted plex. Is that real enough?
Did I also mention it equals winning at FW. That may not matter to you, but it still equals winning at FW.
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Elmo Vormar
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Posted - 2009.04.08 07:15:00 -
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I agree with the op, tho i am minmatar and we are a bit more plexxing then the gallenteans.
i dont see why people want to join fw if the only thing they are after is isk and kills. If you want that go live in 0.0, become a pirate or join a indy corp for all i care.
Tho i do agree that plexing doesnt give rewards as i should and it need a bit tweaking, i do like it. I'm only a week in fw but i already realise that plexing needsto be done and it will get you some pvp action, a thing that most fw people still need to understand i think...
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