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Ronin Reborn Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.04.08 07:25:00 - [31] Edited by: Ronin Reborn on 08/04/2009 07:28:34 So your retort is that plexing changes.....plexing (rat spawns). You wonder why so many choose not to plex? Because unlike anything else in Eve it affects nothing beyond itself. Well, that and it's mindnumbingly boring, at least in my opinion. As far as 'plexing for pvp' there are a million ways to get a fight that doesn't involve PVE. Seriously Caldari chestbeating because they have the patience to orbit a beacon for x# of minutes is sad. You've said that no one is trying to stop you so why are you bragging? Do you want someone to care? Do you want a medal like Ankh? I don't understand the point of the thread. Just because you want to play FW a certain way does not in any way mean others are obligated to follow suit. Or give a **** for that matter. edit::grammar
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.04.08 07:47:00 - [32] I'm not posting in this thread! (Tho cheers for the WOLFY namedrop Atraxerxes, now offline the stabs already... :P ) Originally by: Kuolematon I'm dreaming that I can force Bad Messenger to make us became Minmatar militia and then we can start raping people in Motsu / Jita just like we do in Dodixie/whatever because Gallente FW people are nowadays so few .. I'm halfway there done. Just wait Gallente, we are about to turn our coats! But this bit. Epic lols! I can confirm that Jita, Motsu and that hisec area can provide endless fun in Gall/ Minnie FW, even more than Dodi/ Villore for you guys I would suspect... Tho sometimes the lag is a bit too much. :P (Damn, did I bite? With Pervs you never know...) ---
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.04.08 07:53:00 - [33] Originally by: Elmo Vormar i dont see why people want to join fw if the only thing they are after is isk and kills. If you want that go live in 0.0, become a pirate or join a indy corp for all i care. I've posted this elsewhere but it's our subscription of the "sandbox game" that is EVE so we can do damn well as we please. Fact is that the PVP- centric FW (the free mass wardec bit and the hisec mechanics) offers gameplay not found elsewhere in EVE. I enjoy it so I stay in FW, is that too hard to understand? No deccing hassles, no locator agents, no sentry guns, no bubbles, almost no POSes and instead a lot of small gang/ solo fights in whatever you fancy flying and a lot of frigate action at gates and even in plexes! That's fun to me, I don't wanna go blinky or go to 0.0 as I have my fun right here in FW. ... God, I gotta stop biting like this... ---
Lord Zekk Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.04.08 08:03:00 - [34] Originally by: Ronin Reborn Edited by: Ronin Reborn on 08/04/2009 07:28:34 So your retort is that plexing changes.....plexing (rat spawns). You wonder why so many choose not to plex? Because unlike anything else in Eve it affects nothing beyond itself. Well, that and it's mindnumbingly boring, at least in my opinion. As far as 'plexing for pvp' there are a million ways to get a fight that doesn't involve PVE. Seriously Caldari chestbeating because they have the patience to orbit a beacon for x# of minutes is sad. You've said that no one is trying to stop you so why are you bragging? Do you want someone to care? Do you want a medal like Ankh? I don't understand the point of the thread. Just because you want to play FW a certain way does not in any way mean others are obligated to follow suit. Or give a **** for that matter. edit::grammar If you are interested in PVP and find that other ways are more effective go do that. We enjoy our PVP in this way. Correct me if wrong, but you enjoy FW PVP as well which why you are a part of FW even though you don't like plexing. The "certain way" we're playing FW is the way it is meant to be played to win. I'm not saying that anything else is wrong/bad/shouldn't be done. If you have fun doing something in FW by all means do it and if you don't like something don't do it. However winning is FW is determined by the amount of territory a faction able to capture and defend. Plain and simple.
Unfamed II Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.04.08 08:15:00 - [35] Originally by: Raimo I'm not posting in this thread! (Tho cheers for the WOLFY namedrop Atraxerxes, now offline the stabs already... :P ) Originally by: Kuolematon I'm dreaming that I can force Bad Messenger to make us became Minmatar militia and then we can start raping people in Motsu / Jita just like we do in Dodixie/whatever because Gallente FW people are nowadays so few .. I'm halfway there done. Just wait Gallente, we are about to turn our coats! But this bit. Epic lols! I can confirm that Jita, Motsu and that hisec area can provide endless fun in Gall/ Minnie FW, even more than Dodi/ Villore for you guys I would suspect... Tho sometimes the lag is a bit too much. :P (Damn, did I bite? With Pervs you never know...) Biggest problem is massive caldari stations. Dodixie doesn't have that level of protection, luckily for us. Morale? Not in my dictionary. Iskies, nah. Lulz > iskies every time. Almost suicide ganked an empty freighter just to ** off the owner, not to make iskies. The train goes where the tracks are laid, and Kuolematon got me convinced... Originally by:** Sandslinger of CA So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
Turelus Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.04.08 08:33:00 - [36] Originally by: Odewad Your whole problem, other than obvious E-peen envy, is you failed to notice that Gallente were French. You actually expected the French to fight for their territory? White flag, cheese and some wine please! THIS! I can't wait for that epic story we get when we take every FW system! I guess after that we could also go and help the Amarr finally put down those slaves.
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.04.08 08:34:00 - [37] Edited by: Raimo on 08/04/2009 08:36:26 Originally by: Unfamed II Biggest problem is massive caldari stations. Dodixie doesn't have that level of protection, luckily for us. Morale? Not in my dictionary. Iskies, nah. Lulz > iskies every time. Almost suicide ganked an empty freighter just to **** off the owner, not to make iskies. The train goes where the tracks are laid, and Kuolematon got me convinced... Well everyone knows that the most phat lewtz (Don't do it for the iskies but for the epic lols) are in Jita and Motsu even if Dodi has some too... But I'm sure you knew that. :P TBH plus side for me would be to be able to gang up with you bunch of loonies. Tho I'm not totally certain if that is smart or safe even when (neutral) "allied"... ---
Lord Zekk Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.04.08 08:52:00 - [38] Originally by: Turelus Originally by: Odewad Your whole problem, other than obvious E-peen envy, is you failed to notice that Gallente were French. You actually expected the French to fight for their territory? White flag, cheese and some wine please! THIS! I can't wait for that epic story we get when we take every FW system! I guess after that we could also go and help the Amarr finally put down those slaves. Aye. It's not gonna be too long before we deal with these freedom loving democratic frogs. I just hope the last Gal system doesn't fall before I get back. It's gonna be a pleasure helping the Amarr crush those slaves.
Parmenides Elea Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.04.08 09:18:00 - [39] 22nd are chicken s**t stabbed up loosers who think pve is more important than fighting in a war. Every time we come to find you you run, you NEVER come to find us. This is a challenge, come to tama and show us you can pvp or STFU! Well you said trolling was welcome :) To Daimoto Kurashi
alexis steele Minmatar 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.04.08 09:33:00 - [40] Edited by: alexis steele on 08/04/2009 09:34:21 Originally by: Parmenides Elea 22nd are chicken s**t stabbed up loosers who think pve is more important than fighting in a war. Every time we come to find you you run, you NEVER come to find us. This is a challenge, come to tama and show us you can pvp or STFU! mmmmmmm stabbed up ehh? never go to find pvp ehh? i sir must say that you are full of it :) the main thing i enjoy in FW is killing my enemys in high sec where they think they are safe from us :) looks like tama is next, although might be a bit harder due to pirates :) a plan is just a list of things that dont happen!
Jin Gle Asgardreia	Posted - 2009.04.08 10:15:00 - [41] Originally by: Atraxerxes Please post up here and flame us, because every post you make just shows us how **ed off you are that we are winning and not that you are in it strictly for the 5000 war targets you get to shoot at, as you like to claim. I know you take this game very serious and this will be very difficult for you too understand but we actually are in it for the fun and shooty. ps: this post proves that im actually really **ed of for some reason
Ratchman	Posted - 2009.04.08 10:47:00 - [42] It seems to me that the enormous number of posts on this subject is more about gloating, smack and ego-stroking. Before anyone else says 'we win', let me point out the fact that you can conquer every system, and you still won't win because there is no end to factional warfare. What you can say is that you dominate the plexing side of factional warfare at the moment. If you show a poor attitude when you are winning, imagine how much more it will hurt you when you are losing. Circumstances will change over time, as they always do. But think of this: the victory points difference between the two militia are almost level, and considering the significant numerical superiority that the Caldari have, this represents a smaller amount of Victory Points per person, so in this sense, you can say Gallente pilots are generally more efficient. And what are the conditions for achieving victory points? Plexing, is it? If the OP is so bored at winning all the time, why doesn't his corp defect to the Gallente side, where we are 'losing' so bad. Of course not, it's just an excuse to stroke one's ego. If you were really concerned about a challenge, you would side with what you consider to be the losing faction. All these posts that troll on and on, and it never occurs to you that the only reason for doing all this is to make the other side feel bad, so you can feel that it was actually worth doing. We are here to play for fun and entertainment. Gloating suggests that you take it all way to seriously.
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.04.08 10:49:00 - [43] Originally by: Lord Zekk Originally by: Ronin Reborn Originally by: Atraxerxes Originally by: Ronin Reborn Plexing doesn't matter. We're not playing your version of Faction Warfare. So Bueller, how's is it again that Plexing doesn't matter? Name one way that it does. You get occupancy which means the rats in the plexes are friendly. Now players will claim we don't fight in plexes so it doesn't matter. But a lot of people do. We killed a Domi with 2 rifters and a BB. That would not have been possible without the support of NPS rats in the unrestricted plex. Is that real enough? Did I also mention it equals winning at FW. That may not matter to you, but it still equals winning at FW. That is actually the best argument i've ever seen for plexing from the Caldari side. However, from what you've basically just said, you run plexes to get NPC's to help you blob out your opponents?
Kulmid Asshats and Alcoholics Turbo.	Posted - 2009.04.08 10:52:00 - [44] As I was in the Minmatar Militia for sometime for the SOLE purpose of getting frig fights, inty fight, destroyer fights. No where else in Eve will you see such a mass of frigs size ships ready to fight. I joined FW for the 100s maybe 1000s of more targets I would have. If I could have made my own militia a target as well I would have. I still roamed to 0.0, I still pirated low sec, but I also got awesome frig fights. I really have no idea how FW works outside of the "have some targets to pew pew" part and for the month or two that I was in FW I don't think I ever actually entered a plex. So, can someone please explain to me what it is you get for "winning" exactly. I'm pretty sure I've correctly picked up throughout the trolling in this thread that you "take" the enemies space. But is there any benefit to actually capturing their space. Is there some kind of leader board? Being a real PvPer at heart I always used the killboard as the leader board like the rest of the PvPing community. Thanks. _________________
Ronin Reborn Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.04.08 10:57:00 - [45] Kulmid, there are 'victory points' and a leaderboard for them. There are no rewards outside of a plex for flipping a system over to your side.
Doktor Soet Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.04.08 11:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Atraxerxes Let's face it, the Gallente Militia has all but effen quit FW. [...] I'm Atraxerxes and I approve this message. Nice Regions, we'll take them all. thx Atraxerxes for this post... we now have (or at least i have) new sigs
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.04.08 11:07:00 - [47] Originally by: Kulmid So, can someone please explain to me what it is you get for "winning" exactly. I'm pretty sure I've correctly picked up throughout the trolling in this thread that you "take" the enemies space. But is there any benefit to actually capturing their space. Is there some kind of leader board? Being a real PvPer at heart I always used the killboard as the leader board like the rest of the PvPing community. Thanks. FW Stats The Official IC stats leaderboard does keep track of systems lost/ gained, but the actual "official" leaderboard (2nd page there) only tracks amount of VPs gained(not systems flipped) and kill amounts with individual corp rankings and a combined stat with 50% value on each accomplishment. We just use our killboard tbh. ---
Lord Zekk Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.04.08 11:36:00 - [48] Originally by: Irida Mershkov That is actually the best argument i've ever seen for plexing from the Caldari side. However, from what you've basically just said, you run plexes to get NPC's to help you blob out your opponents? I like to think of it as home side advantage. Someone came after us in Domi. We used this strategy to take him out. Our only other option would have been to run. There is no way 2 Rifters and a BB have the DPS to take down a Domi. Say what you want I'm pretty proud of the fact that we were able to take down a superior foe. Originally by: Ratchetman Before anyone else says 'we win', let me point out the fact that you can conquer every system, and you still won't win because there is no end to factional warfare. What you can say is that you dominate the plexing side of factional warfare at the moment. If you show a poor attitude when you are winning, imagine how much more it will hurt you when you are losing. Circumstances will change over time, as they always do. Good point on the we win. Knowing Atraxerxes and most of the 22nd I'm sure they don't have a poor attitude. We've basically tried everything to get the Gals to come out and plex against us. I know a lot of you prefer staying out of plexing and just sticking to combat which is fine. To each their own, but I'm pretty sure a lot of you, who would plex and fight in plexes, feel like it's a hopeless cause. I might be wrong but, I'm pretty sure this is Ax's way of ****ing you guys off enough to want to reclaim your systems and even try and take some of ours. Nothing else seems to be working including CCPs little call to arms. (Yes I know there aren't many direct ingame benefits), but I'm sure there are good number of you who would like to have that damn Caldari Occpancy Tag removed from your systems enough to fight for it.
AshenShugar01 Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.04.08 11:51:00 - [49] FW is a war that cant be 'won' as such like a war over territory in 0.0 might be won. System control IS meaningless... However this the storyline does tell us that system occupancy is important, that winning the war is dependent on this as well as kills and the like. So i give full credit to the squids, U guys have got us pretty well beat at the moment in this game mechanic, which is sad for me as its a mechanic that i genuinely like. As a Gallente plexer from early FW I wish more plexing occurred, and that we'd fight for the plexes more but that hasnt happened unfortunately. Which is a pity as some of the best pvp occurs in the plexes. However the caldari are to blame for this a bit too, whats the point of a plex if not to fight over it? whats the point of a system if not to fight your enemies over its control? So why fill a minor plex with 10 destroyers so that no WT or pirate for that matter will come in? Blobbing is part of the game, and in fleet warfare thats just life, you'll never catch me moaning in local that 5 to one is 'not fair' or the like, but with the plexes theres something not right with that either. Do u want to PvP or PvE? Atm its largely just caldari vs the rats in the plexes and a few gallente guys who continue to work away at it. Are we really happy with the state of Faction War? Gallente, do u like losing system after system? Caldari, do u enjoy PvE so much that u want to discourage anything more then token resistance?
Kulmid Asshats and Alcoholics Turbo.	Posted - 2009.04.08 12:02:00 - [50] Edited by: Kulmid on 08/04/2009 12:05:07 Originally by: Raimo FW Stats The Official IC stats leaderboard does keep track of systems lost/ gained, but the actual "official" leaderboard (2nd page there) only tracks amount of VPs gained(not systems flipped) and kill amounts with individual corp rankings and a combined stat with 50% value on each accomplishment. We just use our killboard tbh. I see. So despite the fact that the Gallente Militia have "all but quit FW" they continue to maintain higher kills per player and higher Victory Points per player. But the Caldari are able to "win" simply because they have a 2k player advantage. To me, from a strictly PvP standpoint, it looks like the Gallente Militia are actually winning. While yes, losing territory is indeed losing, when capturing that territory has no tangible benefits and actually killing people does, it appears Caldari are "winning" the meaningless side of FW. The part meant to encourage FW PvP. While the Gallente are actually winning the real PvP. _________________
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.04.08 12:07:00 - [51] Originally by: Lord Zekk Originally by: Irida Mershkov That is actually the best argument i've ever seen for plexing from the Caldari side. However, from what you've basically just said, you run plexes to get NPC's to help you blob out your opponents? I like to think of it as home side advantage. Someone came after us in Domi. We used this strategy to take him out. Our only other option would have been to run. There is no way 2 Rifters and a BB have the DPS to take down a Domi. Say what you want I'm pretty proud of the fact that we were able to take down a superior foe. Good point there. Hadn't thought of it that way myself, hehe. That definately is using an added bonus and using the initiative. Congrats on taking the regions though. Come on Gallente! hop to it! you're making us look bad.
The Tzar Malicious Intentions The Church.	Posted - 2009.04.08 12:12:00 - [52] Originally by: Odewad ...You actually expected the French to fight for their territory? White flag, cheese and some wine please! Haha awesome!!! Each gallente ship comes with a free treaty signing pen. __________________________________________ 'Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear intelligent until they speak' __________________________________________
Droog 1	Posted - 2009.04.08 12:26:00 - [53] Edited by: Droog 1 on 08/04/2009 12:38:10 Edited by: Droog 1 on 08/04/2009 12:36:52 Originally by: Atraxerxes Let's face it, the Gallente Militia has all but effen quit FW. And honestly I couldn't be more upset about it either. It gets boring winning all the time. In a perpetual war which can never end please tell us all how you are 'winning'. The only way anybody 'wins' is to find something that they enjoy doing and stick to it. It just so happens that you enjoy sitting in complexes and not PvP. Originally by: Atraxerxes You guys have had former 0.0 corps, seriously skilled pilots, local pirates who are friendly with you and more Are you saying the 5000 Caldari members are all noobs and you have no vets? Or do you think it's unfair that ebil piwates kill you sometimes? I don't even know what point you are trying to make with that statement because it's true for both sides. Originally by: Atraxerxes Faction War is a game inside the game. Much like sovereignty is in null sec and market pvp is everywhere. Except in 0.0 I can destroy your POSes and kick you out of your station. In 0.0 I can damage your wallet by inflicting Isk losses on you and put you out of the war. In 0.0 if you fly frigs and destroyers you won't achieve anything. FW is nothing like 0.0. FW is a 'fake' war that can never be won by either side. Originally by: Atraxerxes Yet most of you Gallente toons have been playing like getting in epic 50 on 50 fleet battles means victory or killing noob militia pilots in Tama is a win. You think running complexes is a win and they (Mainly WOLFY)think killing players in Tama is a win. They do however have a whole lot more kills than your Corp. Ofc I'm sure your corp has more medals than them so therefore you think you are 'winning'. Originally by: Atraxerxes My favorite part is when you post up on occupancy/plex threads that plexing doesn't matter. They don't. The only reason to run a plex is to get a fight. According to your corps stas you havn't been getting many fights but you still run plexes. Originally by: Atraxerxes If you just want pvp, move to 0.0 or start to pirate. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. No. How about I stay in Black Rise shooting Squids who are not hiding in complexes and if you don't like it you can go back to Motsu. Originally by: Atraxerxes So all you Ferris Buellers and other gal corps who will post up here about your killmails, as if the 22nd, ZiTek, the Pervs or CAIN, don't pvp on top of taking your regions and painting them blue. 22nd are not renowned for much apart from running and avoiding PvP. PERVS are the best corp in Squid militia. Originally by: Atraxerxes Please post up here and flame us, because every post you make just shows us how ****ed off you are that we are winning and not that you are in it strictly for the 5000 war targets you get to shoot at, as you like to claim. There you go again with the whole 'winning' thing. FW can't be won mate. Try to get that through your thick caldari skull. You might as well say you won against the Mordus in Sivala because you ran a mission there. The Caldari superior numbers across all time zones and the fact that you have more players not looking for PvP and sitting in complexes is why you hold more systems. It's not down to skill, better players or organisation. The Caldari militia have the worst stats per member than any of the other 4 militia. Per member you have less VPs and less kills. Your militia has contributed less to FW than anyone else and ,since you have started spending more time complexing the amount of PvP has decreased. One look at the Official Stats proves that as VPs go up the PvP goes down but you Quasicarebears in the Caldari militia still insist that there's more PvP in plexes and still run them. You have nothing to be proud of. Ps Wolfy sigs are funny.
Cosmic Raider Solo Plex	Posted - 2009.04.08 12:33:00 - [54] Originally by: Kulmid Edited by: Kulmid on 08/04/2009 12:05:07 Originally by: Raimo FW Stats The Official IC stats leaderboard does keep track of systems lost/ gained, but the actual "official" leaderboard (2nd page there) only tracks amount of VPs gained(not systems flipped) and kill amounts with individual corp rankings and a combined stat with 50% value on each accomplishment. We just use our killboard tbh. I see. So despite the fact that the Gallente Militia have "all but quit FW" they continue to maintain higher kills per player and higher Victory Points per player. But the Caldari are able to "win" simply because they have a 2k player advantage. To me, from a strictly PvP standpoint, it looks like the Gallente Militia are actually winning. While yes, losing territory is indeed losing, when capturing that territory has no tangible benefits and actually killing people does, it appears Caldari are "winning" the meaningless side of FW. The part meant to encourage FW PvP. While the Gallente are actually winning the real PvP.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.04.08 13:51:00 - [55] Quote: It seems to me that the enormous number of posts on this subject is more about gloating, smack and ego-stroking. Well, FW is the beginner PvP to prepare players for 0.0. Consequentially, this forum is the beginner forum to prepare players for COAD. See the connection?
Serapo Petrotestes Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.04.08 14:20:00 - [56] Edited by: Serapo Petrotestes on 08/04/2009 14:27:27 Edited by: Serapo Petrotestes on 08/04/2009 14:25:39 Lots of blah blah in this thread. Me, for my part, I just like to be able to fly all the way from Caldari High Sec in Nourvukaiken to Old Man Star and never leave Caldari occupied territory. I like to take a tour right through the heart of gallente Empire in VV down to Jovainon and still never leave Caldari occupied territory. It must be quite an impact for Gallente new recruits to form up in Villore for the first few times, jump into the FW theater in OMS and read in their monitors "Occupancy: Caldari State". I am sure they must feel a great trust in the leadership of whatever FC or corp is leading them. A glowing warm fuzzy feeling of positive believe, no room for doubt in their heads, a great moral boost... Edited for literary embelishment
Jin Gle Asgardreia	Posted - 2009.04.08 14:28:00 - [57] Originally by: Serapo Petrotestes It must be quite an impact for Gallente new recruits to form up in Villore for the first few times, jump into the FW theater in OMS and read in their monitors "Occupancy: Caldari State". I am sure they must feel a great trust in the leadership of whatever FC or corp is leading them. A glowing warm fuzzy feeling of positive believe, a great moral boost... Edited for literary embelishment im pretty sure they dont really give a damm. also; is every caldari FW pilot a roleplayer or something? Do you get a massive e-peen from looking at the occupancy of a system?
Tropic9 Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.04.08 14:50:00 - [58] Originally by: Serapo Petrotestes Lots of blah blah in this thread. Yeah I noticed that when reading the OP. Originally by: Serapo Petrotestes It must be quite an impact for Gallente new recruits to form up in Villore for the first few times, jump into the FW theater in OMS and read in their monitors "Occupancy: Caldari State". I am sure they must feel a great trust in the leadership of whatever FC or corp is leading them. A glowing warm fuzzy feeling of positive believe, no room for doubt in their heads, a great moral boost... The impact is absolutely massive indeed. They ask us: "What does that mean? What's the effect of that?" and we reply "Nothing". And you know what's funny? We're right!
Atraxerxes Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.04.08 14:52:00 - [59] Originally by: Ronin Reborn Edited by: Ronin Reborn on 08/04/2009 07:28:34 So your retort is that plexing changes.....plexing (rat spawns). You've said that no one is trying to stop you so why are you bragging? Do you want someone to care? Do you want a medal like Ankh? I don't understand the point of the thread. edit::grammar The point of this thread sir Robin Reborn, of Wrath of Ferris, is that WE have indeed created something that didn't matter to you, in fact matter. Your repeated replies to this thread is exactly what I wanted to take from you, just like your regions. I have manipulated you and others in the gal militia to post here, therefore sir I have accomplished my goal. We win. Thank you for playing...NEXT! AX "Green isn't a good color for us. I think we'll paint this region BLUE."
Serapo Petrotestes Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.04.08 14:52:00 - [60] Originally by: Jin Gle im pretty sure they dont really give a damm. also; is every caldari FW pilot a roleplayer or something? Do you get a massive e-peen from looking at the occupancy of a system? Role playing? This is RL. I have flown with plenty of bad FCs and it sucks, no fun. So, if you are new and don't know any of the FW regulars on your side and they ask you to bring a big shiney expensive ship to go on an op, then they jump into OMS and see the occupany status, then they check the statistics in the ingame militia tab and see kills last week: Caldari got more kills, Gallente the least number of kills in FW..., yeah, I am sure they don't give a damn.

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