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Atraxerxes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.08 21:34:00 -
[91]
 Originally by: chatgris
I've been watching those 22nd boards for a while to try and hunt the 22nd, and they are VERY bad about posting their losses...
EDIT: Not that it really matters since it is their internal kb, it's just not a good place to gather intel on how they actually perform.
The current public board we have at www.2ndbrdu.com is still a work in progress. Being more intune with web design than web coding I haven't gotten the API for my toon to link up and draw kills & losses automatically as it did with our griefwatch board.
That being said I also have not instituted a mandatory "post all losses" order for the corp as I'm still looking at ways to make the KB private. No reason pilots need to give out fitting intel so easily.
So in response to those accusations I take full responsibility. As far as the 22nd stabbing ships, those loses posted above are the first I've seen of that and is one person out of 106 pilots. Short of convoys of BS relocating, or haulers, stabbing is not something we practice or encourage.
AX
"Green isn't a good color for us.
I think we'll paint this region BLUE."
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.08 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 08/04/2009 21:40:33
Originally by: TooNu
Marcus is the most dedicated FW pilot we have and he is the first to admit his PVP ability. We post our losses, we are told to post our losses, we make it a habit to post our losses. Our corp KB is VERY new so I assume you never looked at the old one because it would paint a different picture.
Now let me tell you how to investigate properly, go to the Caldari Killboard and search for any 22nd pilot you like. We have been using this KB since the start so let's have less singling out and more EvE ingame yes? :)
http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=home
Well, if you use that kb then I assume the evesco killboards sc**** from that, which would explain the losses on that board. I wasn't trying to troll, just correct the zomg pilot with 13 kills and 0 losses post.
Regardless, let me rephrase: Your corp is very bad about posting losses on the http://22ndbrdu.com/kb/?a=home killboard, which I assumed you used frequently since it is after all on your own domain :). There are definitely kills that I've got against your corp quite recently that aren't there.
Anyways, point is, I don't think that using your corp killboard is accurate, since for whatever reason, there are a lot of losses you guys don't post there.
And I do know how to investigate, I did in fact post the link with his actual losses did I not? :D. I am always watching you 22nd! ALWAYS  . I use many intel sources.
EDIT: And while I was posting this response, atrax posted his above message, pretty much making this point void. Also, lol @ s c r a p e being a filtered word.
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Ganja Ree
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.04.08 21:45:00 -
[93]
Meh.
Quote:
I feel, I am, I am not. Am I?
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Lief Siddhe
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2009.04.08 22:00:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche
u measure ur epeen by plexing, others measure theirs by killmails. Both have no greater consequence ingame except as something to smack/brag about. Enjoy
this, basically
I was somewhere Old Man Star, on the edge of Essence, when drugs began to take hold... |
Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.04.08 22:06:00 -
[95]
None of you won, because I did.
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Capt Thryss
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Posted - 2009.04.08 22:57:00 -
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Quote:
I've been watching those 22nd boards for a while to try and hunt the 22nd, and they are VERY bad about posting their losses.
http://gallente.factionwars.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=172938
Look there for a better idea of how that pilot actually performs.
EDIT: Not that it really matters since it is their internal kb, it's just not a good place to gather intel on how they actually perform.
As a member of the 22nd I don't post my kill or losses on any public board....if you kill me post it your self....but I don't post any of my kills on any public board unless someone else (non 22nd) is on the kill.
But all 22nd member always post ALL of our losses on our internal board.
Idk I just could care less about posting on public boards when most people (on both militias) aren't very good at posting.
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Mac The'Knife
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.08 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Mac The''Knife on 08/04/2009 23:24:02
I would have thought this thread would have been moved to caod due to the epic content thus far. Smack, Flames and KB battles... all we need now is a disgruntled player to disband the Caldari state.
The reality, as mentioned earlier in this thread, is FW is really a game mechanic for accessible PvP. Without, getting small gang PvP can be work. Join FW and you have thousands of WTs instantly.
I hate running plexes, and they are boring as hell. There is not enough incentive to take and hold enemy territory(even though I find a little humor that the FW map looks like the Caldari state is putting a huge boot to Gal space.) Despite this, I plex because it is easier then system jumping and system scanning for fights.
As someone who is far to reckless in his engagements and does not care about his KD ratio, I do not believe a WCS should be on anything other then an indy or a ship you are transporting. In Marcus's defense, that man PvPs in the same ship. Ill even give a pass on Wolfy's out of character wcs lossmail, as they tend to come out with the intention of bringing a fight. So the KB battle is is a wash, and best be left to caod and complaints of self destructing caps.
All in all, FW is what you make of it. Hopefully all this mild flaming induces some more shooty shooty on both sides.
edited to make my grammah more betterer
"In an hour of Darkness a blind man is the best guide. In an age of Insanity look to the madman to lead the way." |
Shun Makoto
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.09 00:06:00 -
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*shudders* the amount of e-peen in this thread scares me
And most of it is coming from WOLFY...
Anyone who tells you that the 22nd runs from every fight hasn't fought us much, because I don't know if you guys have noticed but we LOVE to PvP. We may not be the best at it but we spend hours looking for wartargets to kill, which sucks because there are never wartargets around when we bring out our good ships.
Side note: Ankhesentapemkah go glory whoring somewhere else, srsly
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Kessiaan
Minmatar
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.04.09 02:32:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Kessiaan on 09/04/2009 02:33:22
Like I've said before, it's really hard to stand against the Caldari militia plex machine when you're outnumbered three, four, five to one on a regular basis in whatever system(s) you're trying to contest or hold. All you can really do is grab what plexes you can when you can and hide in the station when the blob inevitably comes.
Also doesn't help that I'm mostly restricted to playing on weekends for the time being, but nothing you can do to help me there :).
I haven't had a chance to fight much against PERVs, personally I have to tip my hat to CAIN as the 'best' pvp corp I see on a regular basis on the Caldari side. The 22nd has been getting better but still known mainly as plex spinners who stab up and run away unless they have 3:1 odds and NPC support.
Losing so many systems annoys me, but in the end it doesn't make any real difference so we have all the time in the world to come up with some kind of effective resistance, or just wait until all the Caldari plexers get bored and figure out defensive plexing (because they flipped all the Gallente systems) doesn't get them anything and go somewhere else. At least with offensive plexes I make some good money. Shame it's all in tags and salvage though, not everyone can have an alt in a dedicated salvage dessy follow them around, and it's completely not worth it to BM and come back later 99% of the time.
Fake Edit: The comment about this forum being training for CAOD is lulz 
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Shun Makoto
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.09 02:37:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Kessiaan
The 22nd has been getting better but still known mainly as plex spinners who stab up and run away unless they have 3:1 odds and NPC support.
Bullcrap and you know it. Show me the killmails that prove that the majority of the 22nd Stabs.
I've never stabbed a PvP or PvE ship in my life.
And you one to talk Kess, You stab your Tristans all the freaking time.
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Kessiaan
Minmatar
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.04.09 02:51:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Shun Makoto
And your one to talk Kess, You stab your Tristans all the freaking time.
lol. I've flown the exact same Tristan fit for the last six months, though I am retiring that fit soon in favor of a new Rifter fit, as my missile skills are still crap and my gunnery skills are pretty good now.
I do stab T1 haulers since they get harassed by highsec raiders sometimes, but I really don't see any shame in that :P
Also, wouldn't stabbed fits not show up on KBs very often, because, well, they're stabbed? Also I never said the 22nd is a bunch of WCS lame-os, only that they have that reputation.
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Shun Makoto
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.09 03:02:00 -
[102]
We know you stab your ships,
after having points on your and you warping off with said points on your ships.
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X Gallentius
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.04.09 03:14:00 -
[103]
You guys "didn't know" your own corp member stabbed his ships even though your killboard has said otherwise for the past 8 months!
Credibility? No.
Plexing is PvP
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Kessiaan
Minmatar
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.04.09 03:32:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Shun Makoto
We know you stab your ships,
after having points on your and you warping off with said points on your ships.
Examples? 'cause I honestly have no idea what you're on about at this point.
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Lord Zekk
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.09 04:23:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Lord Zekk on 09/04/2009 04:23:52
I'm not sure what the other 22nd pilots are talking about coz I haven't been very active in the past. As far as I know none of (barring one or two exceptions that I might be unaware of) the 22nd pilots use WCS, i just gimps your setup when you get into a fight.
Second I haven't come across any of the better known Gal militia chaps using WCS either.
The 22nd do plex a lot and we do fight a lot.
@ the 22nd pilots. I know it sucks when people say stuff about our corp that isn't true especially when we are aware of the high standard that we are held to by our leaders and corp members, but don't get sucked into a the 22nd are cowardly stabbed up plexers who can't pvp to save their lives and only fight when outnumbering their opposition argument. It's pointless.
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Anna Sophia
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.09 04:53:00 -
[106]
*grabs some popcorn*
keep posting guys, this is great stuff!
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Raimo
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.09 06:14:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Shun Makoto
We know you stab your ships,
after having points on your and you warping off with said points on your ships.
This at gates? You certain it's not the module lag "feature" m8... We see that a lot. Tho I'm sure some are stabbed as well :P
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Doktor Soet
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.09 07:11:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Raimo
Originally by: Shun Makoto
We know you stab your ships,
after having points on your and you warping off with said points on your ships.
This at gates? You certain it's not the module lag "feature" m8... We see that a lot. Tho I'm sure some are stabbed as well :P
mehhh he possibly means my smartbombing ship... but honestly wouldn`t u stab ur sb bs? heavy dictors = problem solved
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Raimo
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.09 07:15:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Doktor Soet
mehhh he possibly means my smartbombing ship... but honestly wouldn`t u stab ur sb bs? heavy dictors = problem solved
Ahh. Yeah stabbing up a SB BS seems like a no brainer, lol.
Btw problem is HIC != Destroyer
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Vasili Z
Pyre of Gods
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Posted - 2009.04.09 07:52:00 -
[110]
Who cares about occupancy? I went plexing for about 5 minutes before I realized I'd rather cut myself. You can still dock at the stations and use all the services so I'm never gonna plex.
****'s boring as hell.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.09 08:02:00 -
[111]
Quote:
Like I've said before, it's really hard to stand against the Caldari militia plex machine when you're outnumbered three, four, five to one on a regular basis in whatever system(s) you're trying to contest or hold.
And this is why FW victory and rewards cannot be "persistent" like many want.
Like in other PvP "many vs many" MMOs, there's usually a faction imbalance and this leads to a side to steamroll the other. Shortly after, since people pay a game and to have fun and good feeling, they get tired of being someone else's doormat and quit the war or switch side, creating a snowball effect.
So, game mechanics are put in place so that even if a side annihilates the other, the victory is not permanent and can always be reversed.
In 0.0 instead, there's no safety nets, you are supposed to play with the big boys only if you believe your shoulders can take it.
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Juan Rayo
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.09 08:41:00 -
[112]
Personally I find the 22nd peeps awesome to fight.
Wait, I'm doing this thread wrong aren't I?
Endurecete cabr=n! |
Parmenides Elea
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.09 08:41:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Shun Makoto
*shudders* the amount of e-peen in this thread scares me
And most of it is coming from WOLFY...
Anyone who tells you that the 22nd runs from every fight hasn't fought us much, because I don't know if you guys have noticed but we LOVE to PvP. We may not be the best at it but we spend hours looking for wartargets to kill, which sucks because there are never wartargets around when we bring out our good ships.
So in a thread entitled "why caldari have won FW" started by a member of 22nd its WOLFY thats spreading the e-peen? All we are doing is simply pointing out that you fit stabs which you deny, you run from fights which you deny and you're cr*p at pvp which of course you deny. Is there any post on this thread where a wolfy pack member mentions how good we are? No, this thread was started by the 22nd as a propaganda instrument, we are just politely pointing out how unbelievably poor you really are. If you wish to disprove that we will be waiting for you, we are tired of trying to come after you because you always, without fail, turn tail and RUN!
Oh and I beieve the thread also encouraged trolling so who am I to let the op down eh
To Daimoto Kurashi |
Vincent Death
Caldari
K Directorate
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Posted - 2009.04.09 10:15:00 -
[114]
So do you care about plexing or not? Your lips say no, but your heart says yes. I love you.
The proper name for a social system based on political freedom is capitalism. |
Kingwood
Amarr
Defile.
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Posted - 2009.04.09 10:44:00 -
[115]
I can confirm this is the nerdiest thread.
FW sucks and noone cares whether you guys plex and flex your awesome PvP-muscles.
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Droog 1
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Posted - 2009.04.09 11:17:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Atraxerxes
Originally by: Droog 1
You think...
I think you wasted a lot of time posting this reply and I am grateful.
2 minutes. Maybe you could take the time to reply and refute what I said.
Or maybe you would like to compare your Complex running Corp to a PvP Corp by mentioning the 22nd in the same sentence as PERVS again.
For the Caldari Militia PvP=Player versus Plex.  |
X Gallentius
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.04.09 11:57:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Juan Rayo
Personally I find the 22nd peeps awesome to fight.
Wait, I'm doing this thread wrong aren't I?
Yeah, this is the trolling thread not the feel good thread. More troll, less props. Keep Anna happy!
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Anna Sophia
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.09 16:40:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Anna Sophia on 09/04/2009 16:40:51
Originally by: X Gallentius
Originally by: Juan Rayo
Personally I find the 22nd peeps awesome to fight.
Wait, I'm doing this thread wrong aren't I?
Yeah, this is the trolling thread not the feel good thread. More troll, less props. Keep Anna happy!
I know right?! Gosh Juan!
The last thing we need are compliments from a Gallente corp that actually knows how to play FW properly. 
Let's get the ball rolling again... uh.. hmm...
How many Gallente does it take to flip a system?
No ones knows, it's never been done before.... muahahaha...
debate, argue, continue! *gets more popcorn*
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.04.09 16:47:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Droog 1
Or maybe you would like to compare your Complex running Corp to a PvP Corp by mentioning the 22nd in the same sentence as PERVS again.
PERVS are top pvp and plexing corp? So what was your point again?
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
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Micah Harper
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Posted - 2009.04.09 19:31:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Micah Harper on 09/04/2009 19:31:52
Originally by: Raimo
Originally by: Shun Makoto
We know you stab your ships,
after having points on your and you warping off with said points on your ships.
This at gates? You certain it's not the module lag "feature" m8... We see that a lot. Tho I'm sure some are stabbed as well :P
No this happened inside the actual plexes themselves.
Damn this forum, keeps reseting to characters I don't use anymore...need to terminate them...
- Shun Makoto
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