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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:49:00 -
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I'm winning too.. My corp is winning. 33th highest killing corp on Battleclinc. I know, I know.. Killboard stats... BUT THAT IS ALL I CARE ABOUT! we kick people if they ain't killing enough (I don't care about loses, we charge no tax so the corp gives them nothing but pew pew).
22nd are winning top plexers in FW.
Pervs are winning top smackers in FW.
-Dark are winning 200 members having fun.
in fact the only people not winning are those in NPC corps.
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DARTHxFREE
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.04.16 17:07:00 -
[182]
Edited by: DARTHxFREE on 16/04/2009 17:07:45
 Originally by: EVIL SYNNs
in fact the only people not winning are those in NPC corps.
I'll have yea know, State Prot are winning at something too!
/join Cheeze & Whine Club
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.16 17:43:00 -
[183]
Originally by: EVIL SYNNs
Pervs are winning top smackers in FW.
QFT!!!
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Draco Rosso
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Posted - 2009.04.16 18:18:00 -
[184]
Edited by: Draco Rosso on 16/04/2009 18:21:25
Originally by: EVIL SYNNs
I'm winning too.. My corp is winning. 33th highest killing corp on Battleclinc. I know, I know.. Killboard stats... BUT THAT IS ALL I CARE ABOUT! we kick people if they ain't killing enough (I don't care about loses, we charge no tax so the corp gives them nothing but pew pew).
22nd are winning top plexers in FW.
Pervs are winning top smackers in FW?
-Dark are winning 200 members having fun.
in fact the only people not winning are those in NPC corps.
Agreed but were still going to take placid eventually : P. Is dark leaving FW?
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Jaina Proudmoar
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.04.17 10:48:00 -
[185]
You can't win something with no goals, purpose or objectives.
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.04.17 13:34:00 -
[186]
Originally by: EVIL SYNNs
I'm winning too.. My corp is winning. 33th highest killing corp on Battleclinc. I know, I know.. Killboard stats... BUT THAT IS ALL I CARE ABOUT! we kick people if they ain't killing enough (I don't care about loses, we charge no tax so the corp gives them nothing but pew pew).
22nd are winning top plexers in FW.
Pervs are winning top smackers in FW.
-Dark are winning 200 members having fun.
in fact the only people not winning are those in NPC corps.
Yeah, keep telling how good you are. no one else does not do that. 
Playing fw without playing it and telling how you win it , sure... mad respect.
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Parmenides Elea
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.17 14:58:00 -
[187]
You're just jelous Bad Messenger :)
Props to pervs though, they are about the only caldari who will engage us!
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.17 17:30:00 -
[188]
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I think a lot of people start with caldari because they're the closest to the the stereotypical capitalist society - not french, overly religious, ex-slaves, ect, that sort of thing.
Nothing so noble.
Caldaris due to stats / heritage lucky stats combinations have been the min maxed "best" and quickest SP learners characters for single tasks and also the best "all rounders" (i.e. top versatility at tacking to multiple activities) for years.
This is why everyone and their mother rolled one, not for the roleplay :D
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-Dark are winning 200 members having fun.
And the good side is that having 200 members is one of the "success milestones" that are a little part of the corp's far sighted "program".
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
Buffalo Soldiers
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Posted - 2009.04.18 00:43:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Atraxerxes
So Bueller, how's is it again that Plexing doesn't matter. See because the last time I checked, the company that created EVE, you know, CCP, kind of wrote this little thing into the code called occupancy.
Occupancy doesn't matter. Happy now?
-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then --
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
Buffalo Soldiers
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Posted - 2009.04.18 00:49:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Turelus
I can't wait for that epic story we get when we take every FW system! I guess after that we could also go and help the Amarr finally put down those slaves.
That might be what it takes to get CCP to fix FW: allow the Caldari to cap every FW system while players in the other three militias shrug.
-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then --
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.18 09:15:00 -
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This is WHY I love EVE and CCP.
They have never EVER said.. "You must do it this way". And if WOLFY were not fighting in the pipe there would be more people plexing (wait... maybe not).
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.18 13:15:00 -
[192]
In answer to evils question of 'whats dark upto' We moved north to begin 'offensive plexing' since it appeared to be so important in this factional warfare, we should give it a go. From the posts on this forum over the past few months we were prepared mentally and financially for what was sure to be the most extreme few months of pvp we had ever seen!
But, erm... how can I say this.
The number of kills we are getting has flatlined, like literally dead on the floor. And yet as you can see from the stats, we are capping literally tons of plexes in hostile infested space on a daily basis! So erm, im confused can anyone help me out here, cos were here running plexes in caldari space, but were not getting pvp which is what the caldari said was the point of doing the plexes?
Internally my corp is sick of plexing, they in the main feel as I do that its all rather pointless. If no one is going to fight, why bother with it, when we can go back to OMS and farm caldari each night as they turn up for the daily oms>tama>oms dance.
Between us and wolfy we accounted for the majority of the kills in the militia, this has now changed as we have focussed on the plexing mechanic. So having spent a month doing this, I started to think about the reasons why we are not getting any fights?
Well, this is the real kicker folks. It has become quite apparent to me, that once you are in a plex, in the right ships, with the right positioning, it is very very hard for an opposing force to bust you out.
The pervs smack and goading in local was simply since they wanted us to suicide into perfectly setup gank, to take away the eternal boredom they were facing on a daily basis, running timers.
Now we find ourselves in our enemies position, running plexes unopposed allowing us to eventually doubtlessly 'take systems'. As a visionary, with a long term goal for my corporation, I have to ensure that everything we do 'now' is good training for 'tommorow'
So that leaves me at a crossroads with FW, thinking.
Why?
The Dark is Rising...
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.04.18 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Insite as to why plexing is a waste of time
Excellent post. I don't blame you or your corp for finding it tedious when you're at war with people and there's boats to violence (that, and no doubt it's boring as **** even when there aren't people to shoot at).
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Atraxerxes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.18 21:25:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
So that leaves me at a crossroads with FW, thinking.
Why?
That's a great question I don' think any of us have the answer to.
To this day I'm amazed at how many of my guys still plex. I think you might figure it out once you flip a system, it is a reward for a job well done in a way.
Other than that I can't say I've been 100% into FW the whole time, it comes and goes in cycles for me. Thankfully there is always somebody in corp who is still gungho about it.
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Draco Rosso
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Posted - 2009.04.18 23:22:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
In answer to evils question of 'whats dark upto' We moved north to begin 'offensive plexing' since it appeared to be so important in this factional warfare, we should give it a go. From the posts on this forum over the past few months we were prepared mentally and financially for what was sure to be the most extreme few months of pvp we had ever seen!
But, erm... how can I say this.
The number of kills we are getting has flatlined, like literally dead on the floor. And yet as you can see from the stats, we are capping literally tons of plexes in hostile infested space on a daily basis! So erm, im confused can anyone help me out here, cos were here running plexes in caldari space, but were not getting pvp which is what the caldari said was the point of doing the plexes?
Internally my corp is sick of plexing, they in the main feel as I do that its all rather pointless. If no one is going to fight, why bother with it, when we can go back to OMS and farm caldari each night as they turn up for the daily oms>tama>oms dance.
Between us and wolfy we accounted for the majority of the kills in the militia, this has now changed as we have focussed on the plexing mechanic. So having spent a month doing this, I started to think about the reasons why we are not getting any fights?
Well, this is the real kicker folks. It has become quite apparent to me, that once you are in a plex, in the right ships, with the right positioning, it is very very hard for an opposing force to bust you out.
The pervs smack and goading in local was simply since they wanted us to suicide into perfectly setup gank, to take away the eternal boredom they were facing on a daily basis, running timers.
Now we find ourselves in our enemies position, running plexes unopposed allowing us to eventually doubtlessly 'take systems'. As a visionary, with a long term goal for my corporation, I have to ensure that everything we do 'now' is good training for 'tommorow'
So that leaves me at a crossroads with FW, thinking.
Why?
Because one day ccp will have little choice but to give plex mechanic some love (just look the falcon Nerf).
To answer your musings about the lack of pvp is simple. Both the Caldari and the Gallente cops doing the plexes have different goals. Both goals are tied to offensive style warfare. This often leads to one side bored to tears because of the lack opposition. The only real pvp that happens in on the forums with one side calling the other cowards and etc etc...
This also happened during the FOOM campaign. The funny thing happened when the 22nd moved back to black rise was that Foom was getting ready to pull out of faction warfare. This lead the rapid recapture of Black Rise. What does mean going forward? Not much we have our goals and you guys have yours. If both happen to align then things will start getting interesting.
props to the gals that are making placid region harder to take then it should. : P
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Snake O'Donell
Gallente
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.18 23:47:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Draco Rosso
Because one day ccp will have little choice but to give plex mechanic some love (just look the falcon Nerf).
So we should keep plexing because someday eventully CCP might fix this broken ass mechanic someday?
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To answer your musings about the lack of pvp is simple. Both the Caldari and the Gallente cops doing the plexes have different goals. Both goals are tied to offensive style warfare. This often leads to one side bored to tears because of the lack opposition. The only real pvp that happens in on the forums with one side calling the other cowards and etc etc...
What happened to plexing is pvp? I thought that was the whole point to plexing...
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This also happened during the FOOM campaign. The funny thing happened when the 22nd moved back to black rise was that Foom was getting ready to pull out of faction warfare. This lead the rapid recapture of Black Rise. What does mean going forward? Not much we have our goals and you guys have yours. If both happen to align then things will start getting interesting.
props to the gals that are making placid region harder to take then it should. : P
Personally I am done with plexing. I am sick of orbiting a button for 10-30 minutes for no reason what so ever. I am just biding my time until we move on...
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Serapo Petrotestes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.19 11:07:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
So having spent a month doing this, I started to think about the reasons why we are not getting any fights?
Well, this is the real kicker folks. It has become quite apparent to me, that once you are in a plex, in the right ships, with the right positioning, it is very very hard for an opposing force to bust you out.
The pervs smack and goading in local was simply since they wanted us to suicide into perfectly setup gank, to take away the eternal boredom they were facing on a daily basis, running timers.
Now we find ourselves in our enemies position, running plexes unopposed allowing us to eventually doubtlessly 'take systems'.
You are doing it wrong. If you stick a nberblob into a plex you wont get any pvp.
My experience in the 22nd is that when you fly a small gang (2 to 5 pilots) with rather low amount of skill points and less than impressive ships, you will get a lot of pvp. You will be a magnet for pvp, as everybody and his grandmother will be out to try and gank you. Granted, mostly from pirates. Which of course is less a pvp attempt than a gank attempt. Pirates rarely like to pvp, they are out for an easy gank mostly. So are many militia roaming gangs or the blobs. Most of our more notable gallente FW-plex opponents will take us on with even numbers or even shorthanded when they outskill us. They will not take us on when we are blobbed up.
Tips for getting pvp through plex mechanisms:
- plex in pirate heavy systems with smallish gangs, preferably in unrestricted plexes.
- plex in systems that really matter to the other side or to a specific corp of the other side. Plexing in a blob some end of the world system nobody cares about is not bound to get you pvp.
- Roam solo for plexes.
- Thats it. Not that many options, because as many have noted, the plex machanism is kind of lame and somewhat broken in that the rewards (if you dont get and enjoy pvp) are rather slim. It could be better, but there are some options to get pvp through plexing.
But I know for fact that you guys already tried fw-ops in a pirate infested area, got more pvp than what you could handle and had your butts handed to you. Greetings from Invicta.
You also could try and plex down OMS, you know you would get some action there. But I see you prefer to try for a pseudo cool sounding put down of plex warfare to cover up your corps latest achievements which appear to be on the wrong side of the epic scala.
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.19 12:00:00 -
[198]
Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 19/04/2009 12:01:26
Originally by: Serapo Petrotestes
But I know for fact that you guys already tried fw-ops in a pirate infested area, got more pvp than what you could handle and had your butts handed to you. Greetings from Invicta.
You also could try and plex down OMS, you know you would get some action there. But I see you prefer to try for a pseudo cool sounding put down of plex warfare to cover up your corps latest achievements which appear to be on the wrong side of the epic scala.
lol, come back in 5 yrs mate.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Serapo+Petrotestes-kills.html
The Dark is Rising...
Fight my Brute! |
Serapo Petrotestes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.19 12:51:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
lol, come back in 5 yrs mate.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Serapo+Petrotestes-kills.html
Yes, I am sort of a noob and far from a pvp God. Very few of my deaths have been to Dark-Rising. Yet you still failed to even slightly disrupt our ops in VV. What is your point again?
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Selous
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.19 13:29:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Serapo Petrotestes
My experience in the 22nd is that when you fly a small gang (2 to 5 pilots) with rather low amount of skill points and less than impressive ships, you will get a lot of pvp.
OK I get it , When I have `rather low amount of skill points` I will try this plexing pvp.
Until then I will continue having fun.
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Snake O'Donell
Gallente
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.19 15:48:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Selous
Originally by: Serapo Petrotestes
My experience in the 22nd is that when you fly a small gang (2 to 5 pilots) with rather low amount of skill points and less than impressive ships, you will get a lot of pvp.
OK I get it , When I have `rather low amount of skill points` I will try this plexing pvp.
Until then I will continue having fun.
Pod yourself back...
I guess a Taranis is to cool to fight the 22nd in. Should I bring out a velator next time so you guys wont run?
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Lord Zekk
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.19 16:29:00 -
[202]
I like how per player figures are quoted in terms of VP and kills to prove the Gals are doing a better job and that you blame the loss of space on the Caldari having larger numbers. It's a war. Not a tournament. We're not meant to be evenly matched. It would be ideal but 2 sides are never equally matched. Why don't you try recruiting? You seem to have some shiny stats you can use in your favour.
The Map is blue. Do something about it. (And calling the 22nd cowards in the forums really doesn't count) Rushing into every battle isn't exactly smart. Taking on 3 opponents who out tank and out gun you when you have snowball's hope in hell isn't brave, it's stupid, it doesn't matter what side you're on. If you have a strategy that would allow you to defeat your opponent, than that's a different scenario.
Why don't you come and try and retake V.V or stop us from taking the surrounding regions. You might get a bit more of the 22nd than you can handle.
You can call us whatever you like in the forums all day long. Really isn't gonna change who we really are and what we're really about. Good luck with the smear campaing.
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Droog 1
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Posted - 2009.04.19 18:19:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 19/04/2009 12:01:26
Originally by: Serapo Petrotestes
But I know for fact that you guys already tried fw-ops in a pirate infested area, got more pvp than what you could handle and had your butts handed to you. Greetings from Invicta.
You also could try and plex down OMS, you know you would get some action there. But I see you prefer to try for a pseudo cool sounding put down of plex warfare to cover up your corps latest achievements which appear to be on the wrong side of the epic scala.
lol, come back in 5 yrs mate.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Serapo+Petrotestes-kills.html
Ouch! But as my old Nan used to say: 'Empty Vessels make the most noise.' The 22nd should adopt that phrase as their Motto. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.19 19:05:00 -
[204]
Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 19/04/2009 19:10:45
Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 19/04/2009 19:09:29
Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 19/04/2009 19:08:15
Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 19/04/2009 19:07:13
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You are doing it wrong. If you stick a nberblob into a plex you wont get any pvp.
My experience in the 22nd is that when you fly a small gang (2 to 5 pilots) with rather low amount of skill points and less than impressive ships, you will get a lot of pvp. You will be a magnet for pvp, as everybody and his grandmother will be out to try and gank you.
We tried the "2 to 5 pilots thing" and I can undoubtedly call myself "low amount of SP" (sigh). My experience is that this is worse than 0.0 sh!t, as local shows our names the residents turbo-flee away.
Yesterday one even cloaked.
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plex in systems that really matter to the other side or to a specific corp of the other side.
Define "really matter", in a system where nothing changes whatever you do...
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But I know for fact that you guys already tried fw-ops in a pirate infested area, got more pvp than what you could handle and had your butts handed to you.
Someone with the balls has to try, in this PvP game, isn't it? Also, several in the corp are new to the game, and there's only one way to learn it and it involves losses.
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I guess a Taranis is to cool to fight the 22nd in. Should I bring out a velator next time so you guys wont run?
Slasher is what you want to use. With cloak and stab of course!
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It's a war. Not a tournament. We're not meant to be evenly matched. It would be ideal but 2 sides are never equally matched
It's not a war. Wars are when two similarly strong and "technically advanced" armies clash.
If the above don't happen, it's either a slaugther of the lesser side or a small resistance submission.
Strongly outnumbered armies have to resort to guerrilla tactics.
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The Map is blue. Do something about it.
I got a medal or two making it less blue, but to be honest after some days of doing it I prefer mining veldspar in high sec... Veldspar is more rewarding, engaging, fun, and you have all those other miners to talk with. Plus instead of a medal you get $$$ and it works well.
Also, when constantly trying to taunt and push us to get back to OMS or whatever... FW and plexing for DR is a milestone in a program, nothing more.
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Draco Rosso
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Posted - 2009.04.20 01:49:00 -
[205]
Edited by: Draco Rosso on 20/04/2009 01:52:34
oops.
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Draco Rosso
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Posted - 2009.04.20 01:50:00 -
[206]
Edited by: Draco Rosso on 20/04/2009 01:52:05
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Define "really matter", in a system where nothing changes whatever you do...
Were not going to provide you with intel. You might has well ask home many plexes it takes to take a system.
Also if you have to ask what really matters in the FW plex map then your corp/intel network has failed to you serve you completley.
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Someone with the balls has to try, in this PvP game, isn't it? Also, several in the corp are new to the game, and there's only one way to learn it and it involves losses.
I commend your corp for trying to move into v.v to meet us head on. But you when about it the wrong way and failed to gather Intel on the local pirates, who are a particularly vicious. At the end of the day we come to survive v.v hostile climate and hold unto our systems even with threat of various pirate corps and war targets. Not to mention those pesky war deccing corps that come in and out on a weekly basis. One of the most notable was Guided hands social club was rudely introducted to v.v and force to flee after weeks war dec.
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It's not a war. Wars are when two similarly strong and "technically advanced" armies clash.
If the above don't happen, it's either a slaugther of the lesser side or a small resistance submission.
Strongly outnumbered armies have to resort to guerrilla tactics.
It's a war and it isn't fair. Guerrilla tactics for the most part earned us v.v.
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Er4lyn
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Posted - 2009.04.20 04:21:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Draco Rosso
I commend your corp for trying to move into v.v to meet us head on. But you when about it the wrong way and failed to gather Intel on the local pirates, who are a particularly vicious. At the end of the day we come to survive v.v hostile climate and hold unto our systems even with threat of various pirate corps and war targets. Not to mention those pesky war deccing corps that come in and out on a weekly basis. One of the most notable was Guided hands social club was rudely introducted to v.v and force to flee after weeks war dec.
We flew around vv all night and only saw 2 WT's (Anna & Nias) who ran from a 2vs2 (2 AF's vs our Frig/Cruiser). Moving in and around vv is not bad at all if you stick to small gangs. The pirates only seem to get stirred up when you guys bring in your lagfest blobs.
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Nius KIncaid
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.20 06:03:00 -
[208]
A vexor and a griffin, if you had any frig besides the griffin we would have engaged. Being chewed apart by drones while unable to lock anything isn't my idea of a fun sunday night :P
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.20 07:43:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Nius KIncaid
A vexor and a griffin, if you had any frig besides the griffin we would have engaged. Being chewed apart by drones while unable to lock anything isn't my idea of a fun sunday night :P
And yet fighting in a caldari plex means we face NPC jammers and you expect us to fight in even numbers
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Draco Rosso
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Posted - 2009.04.20 07:54:00 -
[210]
Originally by: EVIL SYNNs
Originally by: Nius KIncaid
A vexor and a griffin, if you had any frig besides the griffin we would have engaged. Being chewed apart by drones while unable to lock anything isn't my idea of a fun sunday night :P
And yet fighting in a caldari plex means we face NPC jammers and you expect us to fight in even numbers
Isn't wolfy a bunch super elite fw pvper will take on 30 man gang in thier RR bs gang? Surely a few ghetto ECM boats isn't going to stop you from entring a plex. Were going to spread the ghetto ECM love all over the FW map.
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