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Shun Makoto
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.09 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Parmenides Elea
Originally by: Shun Makoto *shudders* the amount of e-peen in this thread scares me
And most of it is coming from WOLFY...
Anyone who tells you that the 22nd runs from every fight hasn't fought us much, because I don't know if you guys have noticed but we LOVE to PvP. We may not be the best at it but we spend hours looking for wartargets to kill, which sucks because there are never wartargets around when we bring out our good ships.
So in a thread entitled "why caldari have won FW" started by a member of 22nd its WOLFY thats spreading the e-peen? All we are doing is simply pointing out that you fit stabs which you deny, you run from fights which you deny and you're cr*p at pvp which of course you deny. Is there any post on this thread where a wolfy pack member mentions how good we are? No, this thread was started by the 22nd as a propaganda instrument, we are just politely pointing out how unbelievably poor you really are. If you wish to disprove that we will be waiting for you, we are tired of trying to come after you because you always, without fail, turn tail and RUN!
Oh and I beieve the thread also encouraged trolling so who am I to let the op down eh 
Whoa whoa whoa, slow down turbo, none of us (the 22nd) said we were awesome at PvP. We may have members who are awesome at it (looks at Kruger and Alexis briefly), but I myself am crap at it (unless I'm in a 60 man blob...then I'm decent).
All I've been stating is that we don't shy away from PvP like you've been accusing us of doing.
TBH I'm seeing alot of crap fly from WOLFY members who I've never even seen in local before. So either your targeting our newbie recruits, or your overview is messed up.
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Kessiaan
Minmatar MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.04.09 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kessiaan on 09/04/2009 23:13:57
Originally by: Micah Harper No this happened inside the actual plexes themselves.
Well, if you guys can't tell the difference between competent manuevering and stabs, I'll take that as a compliment. 
You do know the point falls off the moment the target moves out of range, even though the module will stay active until it finishes its current cycle, right? There's also some lag between when you active a point and when it takes effect (one game tick, you can tell if you look in your logs, it's especially obvious if you one-shot someone - you'll see the point deactivation message but no message telling you you started trying to warp scramble someone)
Um.. trolling. I dunno... I can sit here and argue about my e-honor all night though, it's not like I have anything better to do. Stuck at work *sigh*
Edit: Here's a good troll! *ahem* I'll be back tommorrow night! You all know where I operate out of - maybe I'll see you then, but knowing the squiddies you'll probably all show up in drakes or something even though you know I can't fly anything bigger than a frigate worth a crap.
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AshenShugar01
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.10 08:08:00 -
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A lot of mud thrown at 22nd here when its not the corp as a whole that uses stabs. There are some members who seem to fit stabs and always run, pretty cowardly and lame if u ask me... why not turn and fight? I was in a Major plex in Suj last week in an incursus with full aggro from the rats and the 22nd Merlin was stabbed and ran. Would've killed me easy if he'd just turn and fight.
However I have met an unforutnate end at the hands of 22nd too and my hat goes off to the members that really do know how to fight. There was a time in Heyd when i didnt even know what hit me.... u got my pod too o7
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Parmenides Elea
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.10 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Parmenides Elea on 10/04/2009 08:23:18 Edited by: Parmenides Elea on 10/04/2009 08:21:24
Originally by: AshenShugar01 A lot of mud thrown at 22nd here when its not the corp as a whole that uses stabs. There are some members who seem to fit stabs and always run, pretty cowardly and lame if u ask me... why not turn and fight? I was in a Major plex in Suj last week in an incursus with full aggro from the rats and the 22nd Merlin was stabbed and ran. Would've killed me easy if he'd just turn and fight.
However I have met an unforutnate end at the hands of 22nd too and my hat goes off to the members that really do know how to fight. There was a time in Heyd when i didnt even know what hit me.... u got my pod too o7
Ash! What are you doing man! This isn't a thread for talking sense! The op encouraged trolling so thats exactly what we are doing, smack it baby! 
Right back to topic, if 22nd ARE that good and can actually turn up to a fight without docking or running at the first sign of us locking them then they know where to find us 
P.S. If you could wait until next week that would be great, my tinternet at home is down so no pewpew for me atm 
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Atraxerxes
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.13 05:38:00 -
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I'm bringing it back man.
AX
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Pride NL
The Legendaries
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Posted - 2009.04.13 06:46:00 -
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Yes you have won. But so have I. My goal is to have PVP next door, and I have it. You guys bring it each time. Cheers!
No One Better |

EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.13 09:48:00 -
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So how is the war going? Killboards are alot quieter since the "PLEXERS" declared victory.
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Atraxerxes
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.13 14:54:00 -
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Yeah we took a break to set up a bunch of PoS's in VV and placid over the weekend.
AX
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Snake O'Donell
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.13 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Atraxerxes Yeah we took a break to set up a bunch of PoS's in VV and placid over the weekend.
AX
POSes?
\o/
More stuff for me to kill. Nothing is more statisfying than blowing up a billion ISK POS.
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Hakaryu Lionheart
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Posted - 2009.04.13 20:14:00 -
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After all of the above is said and done, the fact of the matter at hand still remains. Caldari is alone at the top of the FW game. Noone is even close, no challengers in site, pun and misspelling intended =).
Gally and Minny tremble in fear and continue to lose system after system. I find it interesting that the only systems that gally especially can hold are the ones a single jump from their high sec - Oh well *shrug
Bring it!
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Princess Lolita
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.04.13 20:22:00 -
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I heard that PERVS CEO is MIA and he is really going to leave FW pretty soon, c/d? *snip* Don't use the signature again -Eldo Davip([email protected])
Ebil Eldo-uncle touched my private places Q_Q |

Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.13 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Snake O'Donell
Originally by: Atraxerxes Yeah we took a break to set up a bunch of PoS's in VV and placid over the weekend.
AX
POSes?
\o/
More stuff for me to kill. Nothing is more statisfying than blowing up a billion ISK POS.
A 22nd pos... I bet it has npc's orbiting it ;P
The Dark is Rising... Fight my Brute! |

Atraxerxes
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.13 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Originally by: Atraxerxes Yeah we took a break to set up a bunch of PoS's in VV and placid over the weekend.
AX
A 22nd pos... I bet it has npc's orbiting it ;P
Dude?! did CCP Chrontis tell you... Man that dude can't keep a secret. Next thing you know he'll let the cat out of the bag about putting Torps on Stealth Bombers.
AX
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Sidicarus
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Posted - 2009.04.13 22:02:00 -
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We dont care about Plexs.... Its hard enough to muster a fleet considering the lack of qualified (or any) FC's. Your numbers are quite superior. What your pilots, ships and FC's lack in quality, you more then make up for in pure quantity.
Face it Caldari, capturing plex's is cake. Its easy and its boring. If i want to do PvE, I do lv4's... the payout is much better. So go ahead and claim victory over the NPC Gallente Navy all you want, that's fine we really don't care.
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Droog 1
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Posted - 2009.04.13 22:12:00 -
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Hmmm POSes. Yummy.
Originally by: Hakaryu Lionheart After all of the above is said and done, the fact of the matter at hand still remains. Caldari is alone at the top of the FW game.
If, when you say alone, you mean the only Militia that thinks FW can be won by capturing plexes you are right.
General Militia Statistics - All Time Averages
Amarr Empire 0.041 kills daily per member 3.125 VPs daily per member
Gallente Federation 0.037 kills daily per member 2.509 VPs daily per member
Minmatar Republic 0.034 kills daily per member 2.322 VPs daily per member
Caldari State 0.025 kills daily per member 1.782 VPs daily per member
Originally by: Hakaryu Lionheart Caldari is alone at the top of the FW game
Nope. I double checked and you are still at the bottom in 4th place.

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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.14 02:36:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 14/04/2009 02:47:39 Alright, so far I have mostly failed at trolling in this thread, but I have come across a golden piece of material while lurking on the 22nd public forums (instead of working on schoolwork :P ), so here goes.
A quote by Turelus, at this link http://www.22ndbrdu.com/forums/index.php?topic=34.0
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Serapo & Marcus - For always screaming at us to go plex and not pew pew.
This is a major contributing factor to your winning. It really is plexing or pew pew most of the time. After losing some fights to you guys in plexes at the fall of heyd, I tried to go plex, but after one or two days, I just couldn't bring myself to do it anymore! Sitting in a system, alone, orbiting a beacon (or watching wt's come and go), I might as well be running missions, at least that earns me ISK, and doesn't drop my faction standing. Yes, I will plex when I see one open AND there is a target in the system, but otherwise, I'm not going to drop my combat effectiveness for a probe launcher, and I SURE as hell can't stand using my game time to grind away at 14 plexes (NEVER AGAIN, I wanted to cut myself after that) in a contested system (no-one came into the system all night). Sure, doing so is crucial to making the system vulnerable, but it's mostly pvp based on who can handle the boredom more!
That is why you've won the system capturing game. You were able to get the people who play the game to give up on pew pew and instead grind away at plexes. Yes, you'll still get some good fights out of it, but a LOT of the work is done in the EU timezone (also gleaned from your corp forums) when there aren't that many gal pilots flying.
You have superior corp discipline, for a task that for many is not very rewarding.
And finally, this one is really just to appease Anna :P
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY THAT YOU CAPTURE ALL THE SYSTEMS IN FW, AND FOCUS ON PEW PEW INSTEAD OF PLEXING!!1!111!
/appeasing Anna
/troll mode off
Having said that, congrats on your capture, it sure is something I, and much of the gal militia, couldn't do. I will still work on organizing (and training some decent cruiser skills :D ) to fight you in the plexes, but ultimately, I think you will capture every system in the end since the gal militia doesn't seem to have the stomach for the behind the scenes mass plex capture that is required to really contest the systems.
Anna, I hope you are enjoying your popcorn :D
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Kuzya Morozov
Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.14 03:21:00 -
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No one cares about FW...at least when people smack CAOD about alliances, they are smacking alliances that own/don't own space...FW does not reward anyone with anything, yet you act like it gives you bragging rights blobbing people, lol :) Besides, the fact that you made a corp especially for FW...well, ew.
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Pride NL
The Legendaries
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Posted - 2009.04.14 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sidicarus We dont care about Plexs.... Its hard enough to muster a fleet considering the lack of qualified (or any) FC's. Your numbers are quite superior. What your pilots, ships and FC's lack in quality, you more then make up for in pure quantity.
Face it Caldari, capturing plex's is cake. Its easy and its boring. If i want to do PvE, I do lv4's... the payout is much better. So go ahead and claim victory over the NPC Gallente Navy all you want, that's fine we really don't care.
Lies! I care! I Sleep bad at night because Caldari now owns OMS! 
No One Better |

Juan Rayo
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.14 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kuzya Morozov No one cares about FW...at least when people smack CAOD about alliances, they are smacking alliances that own/don't own space...FW does not reward anyone with anything, yet you act like it gives you bragging rights blobbing people, lol :) Besides, the fact that you made a corp especially for FW...well, ew.
Yeah, why don't you come tell us how to have fun man? we certainly need that, we not beeing as uber as you are and all that.
Or better yet, since you don't care at all, don't come here talking crap. Yeah, that sounds much better. Endurecete cabr=n! |

Draco Rosso
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Posted - 2009.04.14 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris Edited by: chatgris on 14/04/2009 02:47:39 Alright, so far I have mostly failed at trolling in this thread, but I have come across a golden piece of material while lurking on the 22nd public forums (instead of working on schoolwork :P ), so here goes.
A quote by Turelus, at this link http://www.22ndbrdu.com/forums/index.php?topic=34.0
Quote:
Serapo & Marcus - For always screaming at us to go plex and not pew pew.
This is a major contributing factor to your winning. It really is plexing or pew pew most of the time. After losing some fights to you guys in plexes at the fall of heyd, I tried to go plex, but after one or two days, I just couldn't bring myself to do it anymore! Sitting in a system, alone, orbiting a beacon (or watching wt's come and go), I might as well be running missions, at least that earns me ISK, and doesn't drop my faction standing. Yes, I will plex when I see one open AND there is a target in the system, but otherwise, I'm not going to drop my combat effectiveness for a probe launcher, and I SURE as hell can't stand using my game time to grind away at 14 plexes (NEVER AGAIN, I wanted to cut myself after that) in a contested system (no-one came into the system all night). Sure, doing so is crucial to making the system vulnerable, but it's mostly pvp based on who can handle the boredom more!
That is why you've won the system capturing game. You were able to get the people who play the game to give up on pew pew and instead grind away at plexes. Yes, you'll still get some good fights out of it, but a LOT of the work is done in the EU timezone (also gleaned from your corp forums) when there aren't that many gal pilots flying.
You have superior corp discipline, for a task that for many is not very rewarding.
And finally, this one is really just to appease Anna :P
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY THAT YOU CAPTURE ALL THE SYSTEMS IN FW, AND FOCUS ON PEW PEW INSTEAD OF PLEXING!!1!111!
/appeasing Anna
/troll mode off
Having said that, congrats on your capture, it sure is something I, and much of the gal militia, couldn't do. I will still work on organizing (and training some decent cruiser skills :D ) to fight you in the plexes, but ultimately, I think you will capture every system in the end since the gal militia doesn't seem to have the stomach for the behind the scenes mass plex capture that is required to really contest the systems.
Anna, I hope you are enjoying your popcorn :D
You have much to learn about the plexing side of faction warfare. I suggest you read some of foom old threads for proper schooling. In fact I suggest you nooblantes plexers to contact Foom for advice? TBH some of our current tactics were stolen from them and improved upon .
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Hidden Snake
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Posted - 2009.04.14 07:09:00 -
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Btw after this forum trolling i see gallente drop in pvp activity (not counting Tama squatters and usual pathetic blob attempt which got sometimes spanked by andraz) and rise of some plexers.
Yesterday scenario. 2 enyos, 1 tristan, 1 cat. I in wolf and some random guy i picked up in caracal. We entered plex ... Before i landed i get message from my buddy, that they run. Result no fun. However i poped one of their enyos before :) ... And yes I am proud member of 22nd and pvp often and i do not run often (well outnumbered/outgunned 3 to one is not usual combat situation :)
And Mr. Troll says CALDARI VICTORIOUS!!!!!
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.14 07:44:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 14/04/2009 07:45:10
Originally by: Hidden Snake Btw after this forum trolling i see gallente drop in pvp activity (not counting Tama squatters and usual pathetic blob attempt which got sometimes spanked by andraz) and rise of some plexers.
THAT is my point! A drop in pvp activity for plexing is what makes plexing bad :(. You can get some great fights out of plexing, but plexing to flip systems has a lot of lonely beacon orbiting. (Still, every now and then I think I'd like to take a system back, I have split personalities on the issue). Add rewards, and plexing will at least be an alternative to mission running when no-one is around :)
Originally by: Hidden Snake
Yesterday scenario. 2 enyos, 1 tristan, 1 cat. I in wolf and some random guy i picked up in caracal. We entered plex ... Before i landed i get message from my buddy, that they run. Result no fun. However i poped one of their enyos before :) ... And yes I am proud member of 22nd and pvp often and i do not run often (well outnumbered/outgunned 3 to one is not usual combat situation :)
And Mr. Troll says CALDARI VICTORIOUS!!!!!
Shame on them, and praise for engaging them :)
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.14 08:16:00 -
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Tama squatters? You mean that system next to your high sec? You would think that admiting that we live there without permission of the owners means you might try and do something about it?
Maybe when you've done all those capturing systems.
22nd you are no one! You now fall at your masters feet and do their bidding, at least you now know that Pervs > 22nd.
and public forums are for wooses, you should see their private forums /o\
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Vincent Death
Caldari K Directorate
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Posted - 2009.04.14 10:42:00 -
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Spies? Not in my FW!!!!
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 13:09:00 -
[145]
Will accept FW rentals from any of the factions we have standing with at the time. Just throwing that out there ^^ ---
Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam |

Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2009.04.14 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shun Makoto We win, your regions are ours. Give us the Sov and lets move on.
Sure okay. Give me five minutes to put it in a box for you and I'll send it right over.  Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator |

DARTHxFREE
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.04.14 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs ...
22nd you are no one! You now fall at your masters feet and do their bidding, at least you now know that Pervs > 22nd.
and public forums are for wooses, you should see their private forums /o\
One must not label the whole of the 22nd for 1 members public brown noseing of the PERV's.
They harbor some of the Caldari best grunts.
/join Cheeze & Whine Club
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Hidden Snake
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Posted - 2009.04.14 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Tama squatters? You mean that system next to your high sec? You would think that admiting that we live there without permission of the owners means you might try and do something about it?
Maybe when you've done all those capturing systems.
22nd you are no one! You now fall at your masters feet and do their bidding, at least you now know that Pervs > 22nd.
and public forums are for wooses, you should see their private forums /o\
well we like pervs...they are our friends
Ad tama ... Well u r squatters because usual rulers of tama are pirates ...btw Old man star is next to ur high sec and last months is blue :)
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.14 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Hidden Snake well we like pervs...they are our friends
your just happy they didnt completely facepalm last week.
The Dark is Rising... Fight my Brute! |

Anna Sophia
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.14 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Anna Sophia on 14/04/2009 16:29:27
Originally by: chatgris Anna, I hope you are enjoying your popcorn :D
y'know it's alright, but it could be better. Some quafe would really compliment it. I'll have to fit some stabs to a ship and run through Gal high sec for a quafe run sometime soon. Our corp hangar is always stocked with those, it's lovely.
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