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Thetys
Caldari Breed of Malakka
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:33:00 -
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i think im going to like this patch. (covert cloaks for black ops pweeeaase?)
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just remove the whole ecm crap completely, im playing for 4 long years now and you did not manage to come up with a satisfying solution for the whole ecm war thing in that time, so many patches and "nerfs" and what not. replace it with missile disruption (same as tracking disruption for amarr)and get over it. admit that ecm is a dead horse and unbalanceable. ------ |
Aebh
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:35:00 -
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you know, i wouldn't mind the falcon range nerf if they would give the thing any capability to fit a GODDAMNED TANK THAT CAN HANDLE SENTRY FIRE FOR MORE THAN TWO SECONDS.
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Costas Decimia
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Costas Decimia on 16/04/2009 12:40:08 I really enjoy the "Ha Ha! Falcon pilots suck" quotes. That's really cool of a lot of people. I'm curious to know if they ever spent six months training a set of skills to excel in a certain ship type just to see that time and money go down the drain.
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Ta'jek
Angels of Death Inc. Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:40:00 -
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When is the new patch going to be added to the manual list for those of us whose autopatcher no longer works?
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Lexia Stone
Rastana CMP Motivated and Determined
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:40:00 -
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Does anyone know where I can actually download this new patch? I have not been able to log in since last Wed so now when I try all I get is "incompatible (protocol)" with no prompt to download anything.
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Omega87
Caldari Griefer-B-Gone Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Gilligan Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 16/04/2009 12:34:27
And a drone bay? Why?
Congrats to all the whiners out there, you got your way. Don't be shocked when you don't get much sympathy from me when whatever it is you are flying gets nerfed. What goes around comes around.
Originally by: Aebh you know, i wouldn't mind the falcon range nerf if they would give the thing any capability to fit a GODDAMNED TANK THAT CAN HANDLE SENTRY FIRE FOR MORE THAN TWO SECONDS.
I also don't understand the drone bay, 10 mbp/s isn't that like 2 scout drones? And it would be nice to be able to tank if we have to be in the thick of the battle since the falcon will still be primaried every time, flying paperweight or not right? lol
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grayhawks
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:41:00 -
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will the patch auto download after server is up or can i get it now and if so where?
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Costas Decimia
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nigel Sheldon
ccp do a great job in bringing one of the best games out there, and they bring all the latest expansions for free! remember that people, the expansions are free so quit moaning...and if you use in game currency to play as well then that makes the game totally 100% free! get a grip...
let the flaming begin!
The game is not free. The intent is to monetize the experience. Expansions are released to keep players coming back month after month. Additionally, the people who play for "free" are using in game currency to purchase game time codes which are sold by CCP, therefore CCP is still getting paid for that person's experience, it's just coming from a different source.
And finally, do you honestly think that it's unreasonable to be upset because all the time you sank into developing your character just became a total waste?
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RedClaws
Amarr Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Gilligan Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 16/04/2009 12:34:27 I joked last night that first thing I'm going to do after the patch is undock and self destruct my last remaining Falcon.
At least I had the foresight to some time back cross train Gallente T2 cruisers. The Arazu at least has the useful ability to do long range points. Falcons are absolutely worthless now. They don't have the grid to even run the extra railgun, and will do a laughably tiny amount of damage, and they won't really be able to ECM anything at range. Turning on 3 railguns and activating 5 ECM modules will drain the cap within seconds.
And a drone bay? Why?
Congrats to all the whiners out there, you got your way. Don't be shocked when you don't get much sympathy from me when whatever it is you are flying gets nerfed. What goes around comes around.
Whiner :p
Recons all got nerfed. Nos changes hurt the amarr, web changes hurt the minmatar, inty changes hurt the gallente.
Falcons needed a nerf and you know it. Having 50% of your fleets be falcons is just wrong!
It's still a good ship and ECM might have even got a boost with these changes so you better watch out for a second "nerf".
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Jack Gilligan
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Thetys i think im going to like this patch. (covert cloaks for black ops pweeeaase?)
but
just remove the whole ecm crap completely, im playing for 4 long years now and you did not manage to come up with a satisfying solution for the whole ecm war thing in that time, so many patches and "nerfs" and what not. replace it with missile disruption (same as tracking disruption for amarr)and get over it. admit that ecm is a dead horse and unbalanceable.
I always thought that the unbalanced part of ewar wasn't the ships or the modules, but the fact that a successful hit leaves you unable to do anything for 20 seconds.
Cut that in HALF while leaving the activation timers on ECM modules what they are. This puts ewar where it should be, a damage reduction role. Attempting to actually permajam would force a falcon pilot to leave himself much more vulnerable.
Also, why not increase the power of ECM countermeasures? Why not add a sensor booster script, for example, that increases your sensor STRENGTH? This would of course be at the expense of your targeting range or scan resolution (most pvp ships carry at least one sensor booster) so there would be a trade off.
This is my problem not just with CCP, but with MMO Devs in general. They always take the easiest and laziest way out (by nerfing something into uselessness). They never enhance something else. Lazy people destroy. Talented people create.
Sure, a year or two from now they will notice that no one flys Falcons anymore (especially when Blackbirds will do the ewar role much better and are so cheap as to be disposable) and then do something to them.
Again, this isn't a knock on the CCP Devs, it's a problem with the whole MMO industry, an industry that got "bubble fever" after WOW and thus has a very thinly distributed talent pool and a whole bunch of people calling themselves "Devs" who have no ability but jumped in it because companies were throwing truckloads of money at anyone who could claim to be one.
Just like with the dot com bust, the currently happening MMO bubble burst will chase a lot of these people from the industry, leaving the actually talented. In other words, give it a year and we'll have better Devs :)
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Jack Gilligan
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: RedClaws
Originally by: Jack Gilligan Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 16/04/2009 12:34:27 I joked last night that first thing I'm going to do after the patch is undock and self destruct my last remaining Falcon.
At least I had the foresight to some time back cross train Gallente T2 cruisers. The Arazu at least has the useful ability to do long range points. Falcons are absolutely worthless now. They don't have the grid to even run the extra railgun, and will do a laughably tiny amount of damage, and they won't really be able to ECM anything at range. Turning on 3 railguns and activating 5 ECM modules will drain the cap within seconds.
And a drone bay? Why?
Congrats to all the whiners out there, you got your way. Don't be shocked when you don't get much sympathy from me when whatever it is you are flying gets nerfed. What goes around comes around.
Whiner :p
Recons all got nerfed. Nos changes hurt the amarr, web changes hurt the minmatar, inty changes hurt the gallente.
Falcons needed a nerf and you know it. Having 50% of your fleets be falcons is just wrong!
It's still a good ship and ECM might have even got a boost with these changes so you better watch out for a second "nerf".
I fully expect a second nerf to happen, when they realize they've made a T1 cruiser (Blackbird) into the most powerful e-war ship in the game and that it can be fitted for a pittance. Yes, the Rook is better, but not ENOUGH better to justify the fact that you can buy and fit 15 (or more depending on how fare you go) blackbirds for the cost of one of them.
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ShadowandLight
Amarr Hammer Of Light Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:54:00 -
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Come on Falcon Pilots stop crying.
You flew a ship that operated outside of almost every single weapon in the game, that could cloak and warp around space and basically was invincible in a decent pilots hands.
There was no risk vs reward situation going on here. Ive heard Falcon pilots claim that they survived 90 - 95% of all engagements.
And thats before we talk about the Falcon's use in Solo / 2 - 3 person PVP. Without 2 - 4x's the number of adverse pilots against you, the falcon ALWAYS ALWAYS got away.
Stop crying, your ship used to be an abomination.
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Subrahmaya Chandrasekhar
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lexia Stone Does anyone know where I can actually download this new patch? I have not been able to log in since last Wed so now when I try all I get is "incompatible (protocol)" with no prompt to download anything.
CCP Navigator: "Downtime is scheduled to start at 11.00 GMT and is expected to be completed by 16.15 GMT"
I believe the patch will auto-download but it won't officially be ready until about 16.15 GMT.
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Dari Gazer
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:11:00 -
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Incompatible (Protocol)
After attempting to download the patch, this error was occurring on my Windows XP box. After investigating some solutions for when this apparently happened with a Trinity patch, those solutions did not work. Then I attempted connecting with my Vista machine, pre-patched, and received the same message, without even getting to the prompt to download/install the patch.
I'm not overly concerned, as I realize the problem will be addressed, just posting this FYI.
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Herring
Caldari Alcatraz Inc. THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:14:00 -
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FOF missiles can now attack further than 80km. The maximum range will depend on the pilotÆs ship, skills and rigs.
You at long last have heard my plea, and for that, I thank you.
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Ser Enity
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:14:00 -
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Nice job CCP. Really looking forward to this patch ;)
And to all 'I got sick at watching the POS shields' winers.. geezzzz take a walk in the park, talk to some real people and get some fresh air for once
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D'Argent
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: hammyhamm There is no mention in the patchnotes about the changes to the probing system with respect to the ability to ignore particular hits - will that functionality be included with 1.1?
actually there is now an ability to sort via unique id's. that's the same thing as what you want basically.
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Soma Khan
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Costas Decimia Edited by: Costas Decimia on 16/04/2009 12:40:08 I really enjoy the "Ha Ha! Falcon pilots suck" quotes. That's really cool of a lot of people. I'm curious to know if they ever spent six months training a set of skills to excel in a certain ship type just to see that time and money go down the drain.
Six months! You must be downright exhausted from all that training! ___
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Boink'urr
Minmatar Wasserette De Tarthorst
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:17:00 -
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Any sound issues being fixed? There's so much mumbo jumbo in the patch notes that i can't seem to find a clear statement that the sound suckage will be gone :)
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Richard Backman
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:24:00 -
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I just read the patch notes for T3 4th subsystems and that sounds too good too be true... For carebears sake is it possible to have a ship with all T2 covops bonies(e.g. buzzard) except sig of course, in a cruiser hull, plus the ability to have 4-5 lows for nano, plus immunity to inderdiction spheres and bubbles? Total win for solo/dangerous exploration!(not sure about engagement) My carebearing personality hopes that next patch with the nerf bat doesnt arrive too soon. There is one good point for everyone tho: Now T3 cost seems more reasonable and pirates will get some T3 kills as well. Bottom line: T3 gets major boost
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CrestoftheStars
Caldari Eternum Pariah
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:26:00 -
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SB's still need major work, primary on their sig and how easy they are to hit.
the sp 1,6mill needs work too, you need the double time to stay untill 1,6 mill not stop at 800k because you wanna train a long skill instead of a short one ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded |
Herring
Caldari Alcatraz Inc. THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:28:00 -
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Nerfing the scorp too? That was highly unnecessary. Did I miss all the overpowered scorp threads or what?
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Shai 'Hulud
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Shai ''Hulud on 16/04/2009 13:35:37 I find it rather questionable to change the role of SB's so drastically. Many have trained for these ships to fly them the way they were previously implemented, and now their role has changed entirely. This would be akin to making the falcon a remote sensor booster ship to nerf its ECM. It's one thing to balance ships people have spent time training for, it's another to essentially make them a different ship.
Easy fix: make SB's able to use both cruise and torps, with different style bonuses to each (sniper/precision and close/dps).
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Lexia Stone
Rastana CMP Motivated and Determined
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Subrahmaya Chandrasekhar
Originally by: Lexia Stone Does anyone know where I can actually download this new patch? I have not been able to log in since last Wed so now when I try all I get is "incompatible (protocol)" with no prompt to download anything.
CCP Navigator: "Downtime is scheduled to start at 11.00 GMT and is expected to be completed by 16.15 GMT"
I believe the patch will auto-download but it won't officially be ready until about 16.15 GMT.
Yeah, I just realized the patch is today as opposed to last week. I guess I lost a week somewhere. lol
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False Face
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:38:00 -
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Incompatible Protocol Both of my computers can't you guys get your s**t straight? |
Ore Vampire
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: XJennieX CCP really hates caldari which is yet again showing.
we know it and we are still fighting ... some of us in matari ships :)
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Subrahmaya Chandrasekhar
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Boink'urr Any sound issues being fixed? There's so much mumbo jumbo in the patch notes that i can't seem to find a clear statement that the sound suckage will be gone :)
The only reference to sound I can recall basically says that the issue of not hearing sound when you are zoomed out has been corrected. However, I think we'll need to take a bit of a wait and see attitude on that and a number of other sound issues to see how well they actually listened to those of us who had concerns. The reason I say this is because of the little section I underlined below. What we wanted and needed was not a developer telling us what the level should be adjusted to, but the ability to control it for ourselves. The same goes for the in-station sound experience. Hopefully the adjustments will make things playable, hopefully the pops and clicks will be gone, and hopefully they have a secret surprise volume control for the in-station sounds waiting for us. I have faith that eventually, if not this time, a developer/designer will put in the extra work to make these things happen.
From the patch notes: "Sound levels for turret fire, explosions, jumpgates and effects have had their levels adjusted and will be heard in all their glory. "WhatÆs that? I can't hear you over these exquisite explosions."
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Vaustrien
Caldari The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:55:00 -
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I am a Falcon pilot, and I can admit that CCP just basically did to the Falcon what they did to every other Recon Ship. Although, I haven't seen just how big the SDA bonuses to range are.
I'm still mad that my Rapier's a dusty paperweight now.
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Lunn Bolivar
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:56:00 -
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Seriously...what is with all the thumbsuckers and bed wetters every time there is a patch? Do you cry like that every time things don't go the way it should or is it just when people who work hard for a living don't do something you think they should. Hate to tell all you toddlers with emotional stability problems, but this is not YOUR game. It belongs to CCP and as I recall you have the PRIVLEDGE to play the game by paying for a subscription. You have no rights, except the right to cancel your subscription and cry to your mommy about how someone took away your toy at the playground. Grow up...if you don't like it so bad then cancel your subscription and don't even post on the forums. Retain some dignity by not showing the world what a crybaby you are. I'm not a fanboi by any means but at least I know better than to go running off at the mouth every time a game company doesnt do what I think they should....that is ENTIRELY too much time out of my life wasted. Good job CCP...a lot of us have been waiting for this patch.
By the way Falcon pilots...there is no skill in sitting outside of range jamming everything that comes along getting free kills....stop whining and show us how much skill you have now that you can be hit.
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Major Templar
Caldari Knights Templar Defender's
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:56:00 -
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I'm a little mad about the Stealth Bombers. I trained my Cruise to T2 so I could use them on my ships. Now, I have to train for Torps and get them to T2 as well. That ****es me off because I didn't want to train them yet. I have to train for them to get into a Dread but didn't plan for that yet. Come on, make it where bombers can use both Torps and Cruise please.
Btw, great work on the Falcon. They were way too over powered.
Major Templar Knights Templar Defender's [-KTD-] Director, POS Manager, Personnel Manager |
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