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Bloodhands
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.17 20:33:00 -
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Meisje
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.17 20:36:00 -
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Orree
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.17 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: Orree on 17/04/2009 20:39:55 There are some very interesting ideas contained in the OP(s) and I agree that the overall issue of super capitals needs to be explored in a major way. Even though I can fly an Avatar, I have little interest in doing so as the the class of titans stands now.
The proliferation of titans is something that it's probably too late to explore, but I believe a major problem with the ship class is simply the number of them that exist. TBH, I'd rather they had never been introduced at all. As they obviously have been, the need a serious re-working. I think the ideas put forth herein are a very good basis for moving forward along this line.
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TimGascoigne
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.17 20:58:00 -
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supported in principle however you don't need an Olympian. what you need to do is remove the Domesday and install the Olympian as a modular replacement. That way instead of having a super capital smart bomb you have a directional target based weapon. Think of it as a hail of bullets/laser charg or hybrid charges that one shots carriers and dreadnoughts.
a slow rate of fire, stupidly high volly damage and overall DPS fitting of a super capital.
It is also a great way for Titans to due against each other.
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Jainia Soltella
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:09:00 -
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Dezolf
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:20:00 -
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I like the idea of Olympians, caps are spammed. |
Cpt Iwan
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Iwan on 17/04/2009 21:32:07 Yes
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Kharriga
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.17 22:28:00 -
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i like the ideas. and i agree on the EHP problem of supercaps. -
"I'm scissors. Paper is fine. Nerf rock!"
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Hinata
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Posted - 2009.04.17 22:39:00 -
[39]
Supported, awesome idea's give me a reason to put my alt into a supercap
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.17 23:00:00 -
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Nothing to argue about with the OP that I can see.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.04.17 23:45:00 -
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So the proposal is for both classes to get vastly more HP, somewhat better reppers, smaller sig radii, bigger hangars, and clone bays that actually work properly. Moms would get cool new drone types and AoE healing, titans would switch to EW doomsdays, and there'd be a new anti-capital supercap introduced.
I like some parts, not so much a fan of others. More HP I'm completely in favour of. Supercapital reppers just seem an unnecessary complication - you want them to be gang-dependent, let them live or die by their gang's ability to RR. Smaller sigs are unflavourful, but they do the right thing mechanically, so I'll support them. Bigger hangars and better cloning facilities are both good ideas. New fighters might be a plan, but I'd have to see specifics. AoE healing seems kind of wrong to me - I prefer the proposal to let triaged moms RR sieged dreads(but NOT each other) if you're going to give them a buff to their RR abilities. EW doomsdays I've long been in favour of, though Yaay's proposal is less interesting than other variants I've seen. As for the Olympian, it sounds somewhat interesting, but ultimately unnecessary. It feels like you're just creating a dread with bigger numbers. If we're going to add a new capital class, never mind a supercapital class, I want it to do something other than just oodles of DPS.
I'll support this, because I think you're on the right track, but there are parts I'm not really a fan of. ----- Bloodmoney Incorporated is recruiting! |
Killer2
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.18 00:01:00 -
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I like it. |
Cerlestes
Jagdkommando RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.18 00:35:00 -
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I f*cking love the idea of those Olympians :)
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Doltish
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2009.04.18 01:27:00 -
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Yes.
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JasonKuehn
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.18 01:48:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
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Posted - 2009.04.18 01:58:00 -
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all supported... makes me want to fly a capital for a change
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DarkRavin
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.18 02:13:00 -
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Centauris
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.18 02:15:00 -
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Very nice and well thought out ideas vuk.
I want a rattlesnake though if you want RZR's support
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Llynia
Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.18 02:23:00 -
[49]
¬Llynia |
Ur kahanu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.18 05:08:00 -
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Bobbeh
Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.18 05:23:00 -
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In Full agreeance with Vuk. Though i did here somewhere the idea of giving a mom a temp... blast shield, that could extend around a fleet like a pos shield with a limited ehp. This shield could defend a fleet from a titan, like a mom level triage. If i remember it correctly, It would immobilizes the mothership completely and give it reps bonus's to hp but shorten the range. A shield would open around the mothership that ships could travel through at a reduced velocity, they would be immune to targetting or being targetted (as a pos shield is). The counter to the titan DD, effectively shielding those units that are near the mom when the titan deploys, now one restriction is how does one know when to deploy and if one does will a titan dd? I cant remember if they talked about this in their post.
Anyway that was something interesting that i read that i thought could possibly work. Make mom's Useful outside of pos decorations and epeen measurements.... And docking would be nice cause i agree they are just as big as a pheonix and arent as tall as a naglfar so why dont they fit!
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Matke47
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Posted - 2009.04.18 07:08:00 -
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Did i mention i love u vuk ?
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Shadow Lotus
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.18 07:38:00 -
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Because i will get hit with a stick again if i don't support this idea.
Srsly, thumbs up for this
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.18 08:57:00 -
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Not completely in agreement about every part of this, but there's more good than bad, so supported
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QuarteDeLouis
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Posted - 2009.04.18 09:03:00 -
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bolo skymaster
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Posted - 2009.04.18 10:45:00 -
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I dont like the idear of a new supercap ship. I dont think this is the solution.
Rather fix the existing and perhaps is the time to get T2 cap modules?? i agree with the rest of it.
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Doctor Penguin
Amarr Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.18 11:05:00 -
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Explain to me the point of a Titan if it doesn't make newbies go "Holy ****! A Titan!"
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Quartex
Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.18 11:13:00 -
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Rough Principles I'd go with;
-Any changes should not create Super Mission/Rat ships and any change should be checked against this risk. -Caps and Supercaps should be PvP and not PVE, at the very least this keeps ISK moving in the right direction in the Eve economy. -Caps and Supercaps should encourage teamplay and playstyle/gameplay development Ideas and feedback on suggestions so far;
I like the emphasis on Ewar, as the main weapon of a Titan, with all ship systems being fried (heat damage) with an area effect weapon and perhaps a focussed fire weapon designed to nail Cap ship systems (heat damage), making them easier to kill by supporting ships. Also, an area effect Warp scambler module for Titan use, to pin an enemy Fleet. Definitely support the bridge radius extension. Also for future development could the Titan create a temporary wormhole to who knows where, as a last resort for it/Fleet.... giving new gameplay opportunity?
Moms should be able to repair Heat damage using perhaps a repair bubble that ships warp to in the intensity of battle, aiming to get back into the battle after completion. A second bubble could do as suggested and act like a POS bubble when on Campaign. Changes to Hangers/Vats/Maintenance bays supported.
Survival time for a Supercap needs to be engineered to be at least 30 minutes, to allow for cta to get help in and around which a big battle could rage. Not sure whether HP increases etc are the way to do this .... I would rather see the need for reliance on a support Fleet (Racial repper Ships) fitted with new Cap repair modules, or treat them like POS' with a re-inforce period to save them. If we have to increase HP's then it should be on Moms. Purpose of Titan should be offence and Moms defence. Super Cap survivability needs to improve but should be through team support not boosting.
If I was going to introduce a new Cap ship it would be an Ewar Cap. This would be paper thin and need a bay filled with repper drones and racial T2 repper ships to survive but would have the ability to take down a POS shield, with a long recharge time. This would remove the need to conduct the dull POS bashing exercises Alliance pilots "enjoy". This ships survivabilty must be extremely high if it's well supported with the right ships/drones.
We are where we are but imo any changes should take us in this direction.
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Nicholai Sanse
Xadex Explorers
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Posted - 2009.04.18 11:14:00 -
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Kiora Evon
The X-Trading Company RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.18 11:31:00 -
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