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Governor LePetomane Rock Ridge Brokerage Solutions	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:09:00 - [241] Originally by: Sol'Kanar You argumentative turds. You have strayed far off topic from the OP. Here's a refresher: Carebears are hypocritical insane sociopaths. Now, discuss. It's true. I read it in The Protocols of the Carebears of Motsu. I think everybody should take a moment to familiarize themselves with this pernicious threat to social purity and the People by watching this short instructional film: Der Ewige GlncksbSrchi If you're not horrified it's only because you're not paying attention.
Nagen	Posted - 2009.04.21 20:09:00 - [242] Originally by: Esu Nahalas Originally by: Nagen Carebears who would verbally insult you for pvp are the kind that have trouble separating virtual and real world in their mind. They would quote real life laws to you and tell you that you'd be in prison now if only they knew your address, totally forgetting that what they are raging about is just a few pixels, stuff that doesn't even exist. In this case, however, the sociopathic carebears got under our vaunted can-flipper's skin . . . and he has come to us for affirmation. Who else wants a hug? You didn't get under his skin. The man is simply a forum troll. He posted this thread savoring the hours he can then spend reviewing it and drafting replies that would incite further flames. He is bored at work and gets pleasure from doing this sort of thing. He gets his dopamine receptors in his brain excited when you post any sort of inflammatory response and that is what keeps him going, not that you managed to get under his skin lol.
ShadowMaiden Amarr Divine Radiance	Posted - 2009.04.21 20:32:00 - [243] Edited by: ShadowMaiden on 21/04/2009 20:33:30 Originally by: Ratchman Honestly, what do you expect when you attack players who do not want to be involved in PvP? Yes, it's all in the game rules, but you have to expect getting a little flak if you want to deliberately annoy people. The actions of the OP are sanctioned by the EULA. Threatening behaviour/insults/racism etc are not sanctioned by the EULA. Originally by: Ratchman I bet if you stole a candy bar from a child, you'd be surprised when the parent punched you. Carebear logical fallacy number 3 - Confusing RL morality with in-game fun. Originally by: Ratchman Pirates are part of the game, but some tend to over-estimate their own psychology, assuming that they are perfectly balanced without ever really questioning their own actions. That is, until they are on the receiving end of some grief. Carebear logical fallacy number 4 - when you're losing an arguement, start e-analysing the OP. Originally by: Ratchman And you'll find your criminal brethren will react with equal unpredictability if you do the same to them. But then, they are more likely to shoot back, aren't they? Carebear logical fallacy number 5 - When all else fails, tell the pirate/griefer/war deccer to go to 0.0/lowsec for real PVP Originally by: Ratchman And people deliberately griefing other players just to see them cry and rage is so much more emotionally stable, isn't it? Oh please, spare us your holier than thou carebear dogma. We do it because it's a bit of fun, we do it and laugh because we are not constrained by your archaic morals, we are what you want to be. We are the voice in your head that tells you to gank that defenceless carebear. We are the part of you that laughs when someone cries when months, if not years, of hard work disappears in a cloud of expanding gas. We are what you wish you could be. Someone gets scammed out of all their isk? We laugh. Freighter with 20 billion of stuff inside gets blown up? We laugh. Player with slave set gets podded even though they paid the ransom? We laugh. So donÆt try to belittle us from your feeble moral high ground, because you know just as well as we do, if you could do what we do, you damn well would.
Ana Vyr DB - LJ Industries	Posted - 2009.04.21 20:34:00 - [244] For gosh sakes is this thread ever going to end? From a carebear point of view, it's annoying to have somebody waste your time. That's it. Some folks lose it when you do and some don't. Indeed it's just a game, but time is very valueable to some folks (such as me for exmaple), and nobody wants to be the puppet on the string of another player unless they actually go looking for it. Why does it have to be any deeper than that?
FlyinS Caldari Planetary Industry and Trade Organization	Posted - 2009.04.21 20:38:00 - [245] Originally by: Ana Vyr For gosh sakes is this thread ever going to end? From a carebear point of view, it's annoying to have somebody waste your time. That's it. Some folks lose it when you do and some don't. Indeed it's just a game, but time is very valueable to some folks (such as me for exmaple), and nobody wants to be the puppet on the string of another player unless they actually go looking for it. Why does it have to be any deeper than that? Because of the almighty e-peen.
ShadowMaiden Amarr Divine Radiance	Posted - 2009.04.21 20:39:00 - [246] Edited by: ShadowMaiden on 21/04/2009 20:41:09 Originally by: Ana Vyr For gosh sakes is this thread ever going to end? From a carebear point of view, it's annoying to have somebody waste your time. That's it. Some folks lose it when you do and some don't. Indeed it's just a game, but time is very valueable to some folks (such as me for exmaple), and nobody wants to be the puppet on the string of another player unless they actually go looking for it. Why does it have to be any deeper than that? The point being, that just because carebears don't engage in griefing etc they think that they are paragons of virtue, yet the second something doesn't go their way, they are screaming every insult under the sun; hypocrisy much? But then I suppose it is a bit unsteady up there on that lofty moral pinnacle.
Ms Delerium	Posted - 2009.04.21 20:48:00 - [247] We should understand the noob jetcaning in the Osprey, who loses their ore, and when he wants to get it back, he loses his ship aswell. Just because he wanted what was his
FlyinS Caldari Planetary Industry and Trade Organization	Posted - 2009.04.21 20:50:00 - [248] Originally by: ShadowMaiden The point being, that just because carebears don't engage in griefing etc they think that they are paragons of virtue, yet the second something doesn't go their way, they are screaming every insult under the sun; hypocrisy much? But then I suppose it is a bit unsteady up there on that lofty moral pinnacle. It's not griefing, I think we can agree on that. Pointing out "logical fallacies" then posting your own is bad form. Gankers cry, whine, and post insults just as much when said carebear actually has claws and teeth. When they not only miss an "easy" kill but get ganked back, they will throw every insult out there and come back with 10 people to satisfy their bruised little e-ego. Point being, get off the high horse if you're just the same.
ShadowMaiden Amarr Divine Radiance	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:03:00 - [249] Originally by: FlyinS It's not griefing, I think we can agree on that. please read the "etc" after the word "griefing", then try again. Quote: Pointing out "logical fallacies" then posting your own is bad form. lern2satire kthnx Quote: Gankers cry, whine, and post insults just as much when said carebear actually has claws and teeth. When they not only miss an "easy" kill but get ganked back, they will throw every insult out there and come back with 10 people to satisfy their bruised little e-ego. ITT - E-psychiatrists. Again your clueless rambling fails to address the point I'm making - Carebears spout that they are better than the "nasty gweefers and piwats", yet, they behave no better when they [the carebears] get ganked/killed/podded/flipped/looted. Like I said, that lofty moral pinnacle can be quite precarious. Quote: Point being, get off the high horse if you're just the same. WTB - stable for my high-horse.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:07:00 - [250] Originally by: Ms Delerium We should understand the noob jetcaning in the Osprey, who loses their ore, and when he wants to get it back, he loses his ship aswell. Just because he wanted what was his Why did he throw it in a jet can, which he knew is unsecure and incapable of being locked? His alternatives, INSTEAD of complaining about being stolen from, are: - Hire another newb to haul the minerals for him. I know, I know, why should we be FORCED to interact with other players? Gah! - Train up industrials, and indy mine. Don't look at me like that. We've all done it! - Train up a larger ship, and blow the sucker out of the water. Oh, wait, you mean the person you just tried to kill brought FRIENDS? HOW DARE HE! see snippet about forced player interaction above - Train up a larger mining ship, with a bigger cargo hold. Wait, did you think that moving to-and-from a belt in your mining ship isn't part of game design?
Ms Delerium	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:09:00 - [251] I know, was just trolling anyways when I was a noob, happened to me, and I was like WTF THIS GAME SUX. and im pretty sure 90% of new players dont know about these game mechanics. Fortunately I learnt it flying a Osprey and not a Hulk lol...
FlyinS Caldari Planetary Industry and Trade Organization	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:13:00 - [252] Edited by: FlyinS on 21/04/2009 21:13:52 I love it when I get a live one Originally by: ShadowMaiden please read the "etc" after the word "griefing", then try again. You still used the word griefing. It doesn't belong. There's no need to try again, the failure was yours. Originally by: ShadowMaiden lern2satire kthnx Posting an insulting argument then backing off of it as "satire"...the typical MO of the forum warrior that got called out on their BS. Predictable. Originally by: ShadowMaiden ITT - E-psychiatrists. Again your clueless rambling fails to address the point I'm making - Carebears spout that they are better than the "nasty gweefers and piwats", yet, they behave no better when they [the carebears] get ganked/killed/podded/flipped/looted. Like I said, that lofty moral pinnacle can be quite precarious. Irrelevant drivel as it's pointed out to be your own "logical fallacy". Of course your e-ego only sees that others have those and you're always correct. Again, predictable. The only part I do agree with is that the lofty moral pinnacle is precarious, only I realize it's just as precarious as your own. Originally by: ShadowMaiden WTB - stable for my high-horse. Don't bother, you just fell off. C'mon man, that was too easy. Sol - I can say I understand your enjoyment out of baiting with a troll. It's rather amusing on the slow work days.
Onus Mian Amarr Kingfisher Industries	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:17:00 - [253] Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Why did he throw it in a jet can, which he knew is unsecure and incapable of being locked? For the simple reason that returning to a station every time you hold is full is not a very efficient way of mining. Most players who jetcan understand that they are taking a risk and don't complain when they get their can flipped anymore than someone who takes a ship into lowsec for PvP and loses it complains about it. Quote: His alternatives, INSTEAD of complaining about being stolen from, are: - Hire another newb to haul the minerals for him. I know, I know, why should we be FORCED to interact with other players? Gah! Not worth it since it halves your profits and there is no garuntee they won't just bugger off with the ore you've mined. Quote: - Train up industrials, and indy mine. Don't look at me like that. We've all done it! Hideously innefficient way of mining and you would probably get more ore by returning to the station after your hold is full. Quote: - Train up a larger ship, and blow the sucker out of the water. Oh, wait, you mean the person you just tried to kill brought FRIENDS? HOW DARE HE! see snippet about forced player interaction above Yes because when a combat pilot wants a new ship instead of just buying it off the market they train up mining and production skills and built it themself. For a dedicated industrial player invesiting SP into combat is a complete waste of time unless its for drones. If someone flips your can the best thing to do is just go get a cup of tea and they'll go away. Quote: - Train up a larger mining ship, with a bigger cargo hold. Wait, did you think that moving to-and-from a belt in your mining ship isn't part of game design? Suprisingly enough this is what most people do. You know a Hulk with rig and cargo expanders can get like 18km3 hold I think.
Sol'Kanar SRIUS BISNIS	Posted - 2009.04.21 22:28:00 - [254] Edited by: Sol''Kanar on 21/04/2009 22:34:50 Originally by: Esu Nahalas Originally by: Nagen In this case, however, the sociopathic carebears got under our vaunted can-flipper's skin . . . and he has come to us for affirmation. Who else wants a hug? You didn't get under his skin. The man is simply a forum troll. He posted this thread savoring the hours he can then spend reviewing it and drafting replies that would incite further flames. He is bored at work and gets pleasure from doing this sort of thing. He gets his dopamine receptors in his brain excited when you post any sort of inflammatory response and that is what keeps him going, not that you managed to get under his skin lol. Lies! I am deeply offended by these mean, lunatic-fringe carebears. Edit: I boned the quote chain. Fix'd!
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.22 02:02:00 - [255] Just had a thought. I know, I know ... run for cover. "There are two types of players in EvE. One's that know that their every action effects every other player around them, and owns up to it ... and one's that pretend that they aren't hurting anyone by playing with themselves. This, I believe, is the fundamental difference between a carebear, and the rest of EvE." Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------\|\|\|-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
Sol'Kanar SRIUS BISNIS	Posted - 2009.04.22 13:23:00 - [256] Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Just had a thought. I know, I know ... run for cover. "There are two types of players in EvE. One's that know that their every action effects every other player around them, and owns up to it ... and one's that pretend that they aren't hurting anyone by playing with themselves. This, I believe, is the fundamental difference between a carebear, and the rest of EvE." I think that playing with oneself is the one thing psycho carebears and everyone else have in common.
Drunk Driver Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.04.22 13:37:00 - [257] Edited by: Drunk Driver on 22/04/2009 13:38:10 Time for the morning troll feeding...... (Whoa, just noticed this is page 9. This troll is getting FAT!)
Exlegion Caldari New Light	Posted - 2009.04.22 13:53:00 - [258] Originally by: Sol'Kanar I submit to you that the pirates and thieves of Eve are more level-headed and well-adjusted than those they antagonize. I've tangled with other pirates and thieves, and win or lose, have never been subject to the abuses I so regularly receive from carebears. In Eve, just as in real life, it's the quiet ones you have to worry about. Originally by: Sol'Kanar I think that playing with oneself is the one thing psycho carebears and everyone else have in common. Congratulations. You have proved how you are morally and ethically superior to the psychotic and mentally unstable carebears. All one has to do is read your own exalted trolls in your this thread to realize how mature you are. True story.
Sol'Kanar SRIUS BISNIS	Posted - 2009.04.22 14:04:00 - [259] Originally by: Exlegion Congratulations. You have continuously proven how you are morally and ethically superior to the psychotic and mentally unstable carebears. All one has to do is read your own exalted trolls in this thread to realize how mature and how much more functional you are. True story. It's about damn time you've noticed. I happen to be covered in AWESOME.
KillSol	Posted - 2009.04.22 14:31:00 - [260] Sol Quit posting or I start killing kittens!
Drunk Driver Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.04.22 15:07:00 - [261] Originally by: KillSol Sol Quit posting or I start killing kittens! Oh..... I want to see that. Post Sol, POST!
Mith Dahn	Posted - 2009.04.22 15:12:00 - [262] Edited by: Mith Dahn on 22/04/2009 15:14:24 BUMP
Cipher7	Posted - 2009.04.22 15:26:00 - [263] Okay this is just my opinion but basically if you're not in Eve to PvP you're basically wasting your time and money. The "PvE content" they put in is just bait to attract more carebears, to satisfy CCP's real customers. PvP in EvE means something very different from PvP in the rest of the known universe. Usually PvP means battle between 2 armed combatants. In Eve %99 of the time PvP means attacking someone who's busy, outnumbered or AFK. Basically if you're not a PvP player you're wasting your $15 because Eve has nothing for you, and I say this as someone who initially trained Hulk but figured it out. It's much more fun to steal ore than to mine it. It's much easier to PICK an easy target than to wait around and BECOME an easy target, because the game mechanics are %100 on the side of the attacker not the defender. Soon they will release ambulation. More nom nom carebears. I have no trouble admitting I'm somewhat of an a-hole in RL, not as much as some other ppl but I definitely have the gene. But you gotta realize Eve is a game made BY a-holes FOR a-holes. Carebears are victims of the primary scam, which is "in Eve, carebears have a place." The place of carebears in Eve is on a dinner plate. ---
Scorpius Scar Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.04.22 15:29:00 - [264] Its always easy and more fun to be evil, whether its in eve or in real life. Being good is the real challenge whether its in eve or in real life. You sir have failed twice over.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.22 15:49:00 - [265] Edited by: Furb Killer on 22/04/2009 15:49:53 Cipher is a nice example of a 'pvp'er' with an ego so large he can barely dock in a station.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.22 15:51:00 - [266] Originally by: Furb Killer Edited by: Furb Killer on 22/04/2009 15:49:53 Cipher is a nice example of a 'pvp'er' with an ego so large he can barely dock in a station. They call that ship class a 'mther***er'.
Sol'Kanar SRIUS BISNIS	Posted - 2009.04.22 16:22:00 - [267] Originally by: KillSol Sol Quit posting or I start killing kittens! You are everything that is wrong with carebears. Here I am posting with heartfelt conviction about the abuses I'm subject to by the carebears of Eve, and here you are validating everything I've said so far. Why threaten kittens? What has such a helpless and infinitely cute baby animal ever done to receive threats?
FlyinS Caldari Planetary Industry and Trade Organization	Posted - 2009.04.22 16:25:00 - [268] Originally by: Sol'Kanar You are everything that is wrong with carebears. Here I am posting with heartfelt conviction about the abuses I'm subject to by the carebears of Eve, and here you are validating everything I've said so far. Why threaten kittens? What has such a helpless and infinitely cute baby animal ever done to receive threats? Peed on the floor.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.22 16:26:00 - [269] Originally by: FlyinS Originally by: Sol'Kanar You are everything that is wrong with carebears. Here I am posting with heartfelt conviction about the abuses I'm subject to by the carebears of Eve, and here you are validating everything I've said so far. Why threaten kittens? What has such a helpless and infinitely cute baby animal ever done to receive threats? Peed on the floor. Or your laptop. I ****ing hate when they do that.
FlyinS Caldari Planetary Industry and Trade Organization	Posted - 2009.04.22 16:27:00 - [270] Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Or your laptop. I ****ing hate when they do that. My dog barfed on my keyboard once. That was fun. Work laptop too. Interesting explaining that one.

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