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Trebor DeCaldar	Posted - 2009.06.03 17:57:00 - [151] Originally by: Parmenides Elea Originally by: Serapo Petrotestes After all, experienced players should carve their lives in 0.0 and FW should be a casual introduction to pvp for newbs, which kind of won't happen if FW actually is great fun for experienced PvPers. Says you! I've done 0.0 and it sucks. The politicing, the mind numbing pos warfare, the blob horror. FW offers a fantastic place for small gang pewpew that can be found nowhere else in the eve universe. /This\ Not all of us are thrilled with Cap Fleet Blobbing and POS-Pong Some of us prefer the T1 frig battles that FW gives
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.06.03 18:24:00 - [152] Originally by: EvilSpork Edited by: EvilSpork on 03/06/2009 01:33:00 Originally by: CCP Ytterbium stuff lol im not even involved in FW and i think that is a complete cop out answer. FW had soooo many things promised and exactly zero of them have been implemented. fw is exactly was it was the day you released it. be a good dev and get some played interaction and input. this "have faith" crap is unacceptable. the player base wants more dev interaction in ALL aspects of the game. throw us a bone... Actually, almost everything that was promised was delivered. Besides, most dev members are actually working, not surfing the forums replying to threads.
Serapo Petrotestes Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.06.03 18:38:00 - [153] Originally by: Trebor DeCaldar Originally by: Parmenides Elea Says you! I've done 0.0 and it sucks. The politicing, the mind numbing pos warfare, the blob horror. FW offers a fantastic place for small gang pewpew that can be found nowhere else in the eve universe. /This\ Not all of us are thrilled with Cap Fleet Blobbing and POS-Pong Some of us prefer the T1 frig battles that FW gives Oh, I agree with you guys. That is exactly the point. I was just offering the perspective that CCP has been voicing, according to some reports. CCP will have a big problem if they make FW much more fun and compelling than 0.0. That is my point. They would need to take out the tedium of POS warfare and stuff before they move to improve FW significantly. Else they would end up with way too crowded low sec FW systems and way to many unpopulated 0.0 systems.
Hurtado Soneka Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.06.03 18:44:00 - [154] vast 0.0 systems rarely get seen, making FW more enjoyable will benefit the people that play FW, not make null sec anymore of a ghost town.
Nur AlHuda Amarr Callide Vulpis	Posted - 2009.06.03 23:27:00 - [155] CCP can do what ever wants with 0.0 (dev holiday center, or maybe goon empire). Anyway since several years i played this game i hade never so much fun as in factional warfare. Actualy its a hidden dream of each pvper to have plenty of targets and not to make fuss around pos spams, pos defense and pos refueling. In this way factional warfare is much better. Sure it lacks high end ore and npc battleship bounties but money can be made in empire too. And people have 0 responsibilities which brings more people inside. Personaly i think ccp opened pandoras box as factional warfare is more pro pvp then 0.0 and only people who will be interested to play for their own space will leave to 0.0. The rest who enjoys good low sec pvp without sentry fire will stay in factional warfare.
Steve Floros	Posted - 2009.06.08 14:23:00 - [156] Is CCP even read Forums? I think they don't. Are they going to announce something about the Caldari-Gallente war result? Just so we know if we gonna continue fighting or not. There is really no point fighting on, if nothing ever changes...
Val Erian Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia	Posted - 2009.06.08 23:27:00 - [157] Quote: Are they going to announce something about the Caldari-Gallente war result? Just so we know if we gonna continue fighting or not. There is really no point fighting on, if nothing ever changes... Stave....hate to break it to you but the war doesnt end :) There are no victory conditions to be met. Its supposed to be an endless war dec.
Oftherocks Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.06.09 01:33:00 - [158] Originally by: Steve Floros Is CCP even read Forums? I think they don't. Are they going to announce something about the Caldari-Gallente war result? Just so we know if we gonna continue fighting or not. There is really no point fighting on, if nothing ever changes... http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3113&tid=7 Originally by: Sheriff Jones No, i play hello kitty online and just paid for 5 years to come here and make comments about stuff i know nothing about and Wranglers pants.
T 2 Minmatar Tribal Core	Posted - 2009.06.09 10:46:00 - [159] Originally by: CCP Ytterbium Even if we have been quite silent on this, we haven't abandoned Factional Warfare as we are aware of the issues mentioned in this thread and others. For having discussions about it lately, we do have plans on improving it and it is in our to-do list. ♪♫♫♪ \o_ ♫♪♪♫ _o/ ♪♫♫♫ _o_ ♪♪♫ \o/ ♪♫♪♪♫ I'm so looking forward into what you guys are cooking up. Hopefully something sooner than later :-) Best Regards and thanks for letting us know you have not forgotten FW, T 2 ----------- Member of Tribal Core - fighting for Minmatar Militia. Death to Amarr; long live the Minmatar Nation.
Ratchman	Posted - 2009.06.09 12:56:00 - [160] Originally by: Hurtado Soneka vast 0.0 systems rarely get seen, making FW more enjoyable will benefit the people that play FW, not make null sec anymore of a ghost town. Good point, but I know a few 0.0 players who have moved to FW. Perhaps it is time to take FW beyond it's existing borders and let it slip into 0.0. There could be a rush to colonise the 0.0 systems to fuel the war, turning them from nullsec to lowsec, thus expanding the FW area. Surely it is CCPs task to supply us with what we want, not to force us down a specific path. That is what has made this game so good. The ability to choose. If they worked on one side and not the other, then either side would start bleeding players into the other, and the neglected one would suffer, which would be to the detriment of the remaining players. They should be working on both sides simultaneously, not just the one. It might take longer, but at least it will be more consistent.

Ratchman	Posted - 2009.06.09 13:03:00 - [161] Originally by: Oftherocks Originally by: Steve Floros Is CCP even read Forums? I think they don't. Are they going to announce something about the Caldari-Gallente war result? Just so we know if we gonna continue fighting or not. There is really no point fighting on, if nothing ever changes... This If that's all the reward you get for all the hours of revolving around a small circle you did, it must seem like a brutal betrayal. However, it's nice to see that some of the regular Caldari posters are starting to get it. This war will never end. If it did, there would be no-one to shoot anymore. Well, not without having to get involved in nullsec politics.
Lubomir Penev Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2009.06.09 16:41:00 - [162] Originally by: Turelus On working for new features etc though, I do feel all plex's should have EWAR removed or balanced! yeah it's awesome that each side has it's own racial EWAR in them but it is bloody unbalanced when you think about it. Damping vs ECM? It would actually be balanced if rats didn't cheat. Your sensor strength is not taken into account wrt rats jam probabilities (nor do rats use any kind of racial ecm). So there is no way to mitigate the jamming by fitting ECCM. On the other hand fitting sensor boosters works against the dampening of rats. Fix this imbalance first and see (it would make ratting Guristas much less of a pain too). The day Caldari Navy rats get ECM obeying the game mechanics players are subject too is the day people start fitting ECCM and kicking their butts.
Syringe Oedipus Complex	Posted - 2009.06.09 17:17:00 - [163] Originally by: EvilSpork Edited by: EvilSpork on 03/06/2009 01:33:00 Originally by: CCP Ytterbium stuff lol im not even involved in FW and i think that is a complete cop out answer. FW had soooo many things promised and exactly zero of them have been implemented. fw is exactly was it was the day you released it. be a good dev and get some played interaction and input. this "have faith" crap is unacceptable. the player base wants more dev interaction in ALL aspects of the game. throw us a bone... Something tells me you'll GTFOver it. Take a laxative, the devs do their best with what they have. When they get too involved in the player base, people whine about corruption or broken promises or favoritism or any such crap. It's a double edged sword.
Steve Floros	Posted - 2009.06.09 18:57:00 - [164] If its true and its a never-ending war, with no point, no benefits or no rewards, at least CCP should say so. Then everyone decides if he stays or moves on. CCP must inform us. We are CUSTOMERS, not sheep. (Ofcourse I already know we r getting no answer from them )
Pytria Le'Danness Placid Reborn	Posted - 2009.06.10 08:54:00 - [165] I guess the future of FW depends on how CCP approaches the current situation. Approach A: "There are only X pilots enrolled out of Y total characters, it's not worth assigning programmer hours to such a minority" Approach B: "There are only X pilots enrolled out of Y total characters, we definitely need to do something so it draws in more people." I read more of Approach A into Ytter's post - at least I understand it as "Yes, we know there is an issue and one day we'll think about doing something about it". shrugs For now everyone has to accept it as it is, or leave FW. Corporation RP channel: "PlacidReborn"
Kazzzi	Posted - 2009.06.11 17:58:00 - [166] Edited by: Kazzzi on 11/06/2009 17:59:07 Have the devs told the Navy NPCs about the web nerf yet?
Richard Third Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.06.12 03:37:00 - [167] Huh I think the more personnel CCP hires the less work gets done. Lots of organizations lose focus and get stuck. Eve stuck. -- You can't do that with a Planet.
Kel Nissa	Posted - 2009.06.12 17:44:00 - [168] Quote: Of course you will understand that we cannot give any specific detail at the time being since we cannot promise anything at this point, but keep hope, do not lose faith for there is light at the end of the tunnel. Its a long way, till CCP will understand the meaning of transparency. But trust me - its worth the effort.
Stokar Gallente Caprica Corp	Posted - 2009.08.31 01:38:00 - [169] My understanding of a given war declaration was to engage any declared member of my specific war target (in this case, a corp) without Concord intervention, or station and jump gate guns. I engaged a hostile pilot from the very corp I war decc'ed, and the station and gate guns began firing on ME. Unless the rules have changed, I'd like to know why Those guns shot at me. Stokar-
Jonna Red	Posted - 2009.08.31 07:31:00 - [170] Originally by: Stokar My understanding of a given war declaration was to engage any declared member of my specific war target (in this case, a corp) without Concord intervention, or station and jump gate guns. I engaged a hostile pilot from the very corp I war decc'ed, and the station and gate guns began firing on ME. Unless the rules have changed, I'd like to know why Those guns shot at me. Stokar- Did you your corp just enter FW? I think there was some stuff about that you need to wait till next dt till you can freely shoot them. Some kind of bug, not sure.

MaxxOmega Caldari Temporal Mechanics	Posted - 2009.09.02 18:30:00 - [171] Originally by: Gabriel Darkefyre It's often said that the Dev's see 0.0 as being the "Endgame" of EVE. If that's truely the case then why are so many guys leaving 0.0 to get involved in FW?. Funny you should mention that. I just left my corp in 0.0 to come and try some FW for a change of pace... The huge fleet ops were great but I got fed up with the drama and alliance bull****.
Saint VII Minmatar Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2009.09.02 19:12:00 - [172] I posted some critique and suggestions here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1171271 No great scoundrel is ever uninteresting.
Azirapheal Amarr Armored Core Inc. The Council.	Posted - 2009.09.03 11:26:00 - [173] i read absolutely none of your post im afraid. i saw this big white bolded bit at the bottom saying you would report anyone that didnt agree with your own viewpoint. report me if you wish Originally by: CCP Zymurgist SoonÖ
Cpt Branko Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity	Posted - 2009.09.03 12:33:00 - [174] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 03/09/2009 12:33:54 FW needs a "outlaw militia" which is at war with all the other militia corps tbh ;) Would be fun to be able to fight FW guys using small ships and such on gates. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Unfamed II Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.09.03 12:49:00 - [175] Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 03/09/2009 12:33:54 FW needs a "outlaw militia" which is at war with all the other militia corps tbh ;) Would be fun to be able to fight FW guys using small ships and such on gates. Oh god this please! Originally by: Sandslinger of CA So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
Greg6	Posted - 2009.09.03 13:03:00 - [176] Eh. If BIDY, or any other pies, want to fight FW members in small stuff all the pies have to do is take said small ships and go to a planet or belt. Giving them a kind of "add on," status in FW won't make most FW members forget the tendency of BIDY to hot drop capital ships and thus won't make most FW members any more willing to engage BIDY than they are now. But guys, anytime you want to fight in small stuff come to Nenn. Q-cats will likely even be up for an arranged fight of agreed upon numbers if you ask and we're on line. But make sure you sing out and make any such agreement clear. We always follow our word in such things, or there is hell to pay internally, but in the absence of such an agreement we're as happy as the next guys to gank the hell out of a target. :)
Cpt Branko Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity	Posted - 2009.09.03 14:24:00 - [177] Originally by: Greg6 Eh. If BIDY, or any other pies, want to fight FW members in small stuff all the pies have to do is take said small ships and go to a planet or belt. So much more fun when it's not consensual on both sides tbh ;) It'd make small ship roaming rather interesting. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Sun Clausewitz	Posted - 2009.09.03 14:33:00 - [178] Originally by: Azirapheal i read absolutely none of your post im afraid. i saw this big white bolded bit at the bottom saying you would report anyone that didnt agree with your own viewpoint. report me if you wish Thanks for your intelligent contribution to this thread. Who necro'd this topic btw??? And, has the new LP points and LP store items made FW any better??? Pick Three: Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success
Sebastien LaForge Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.03 14:50:00 - [179] Still waiting for kill LP to be fixed so everyone gets some LP when they kill their faction rival. So far it seems you only get LP if you get the killmail, and nobody else gets any.
Ulstan	Posted - 2009.09.03 15:55:00 - [180] Originally by: Cpt Branko FW needs a "outlaw militia" which is at war with all the other militia corps tbh ;) Would be fun to be able to fight FW guys using small ships and such on gates. If you want to fight FW guys in small ships, then join an opposing FW. :) Or if you want the freedom to attack everyone, stay a pirate. The downside is you can't really use your small ships on the gate. You can't really have everything, EVE has tradeoffs. Not too mention, such a militia would immediately become the most popular by far and everyone would join that. Then...no targets :(



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