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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1361
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Posted - 2012.05.12 08:46:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Catalyst: 1.4m Light Neutron Blaster II: 1.3m*8=10.4m Gunnery Mods: 3 million Everything Else: ~ a few hundred thousand
Total Value: 15 million Surviving Mods: 6.8 million, assuming 50% survival rate for modules Sunk Cost: 8.2 million per Catalyst

You're doing it wrong. Switching from T2 to T1 means you can use 2 catalysts for this job, and afford an Orca full of Catalysts for the same price as those guns of yours.
Now factor in the salvage and loot from the Hulk or Mackinaw you just killed.
It's really not that hard to do it right.
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Romar Agent
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.05.12 08:57:00 -
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Romar Agent wrote:James 315 wrote:Looks like we're winning the war: Highsec mining drops by HALF! We are at war? Anyhow, a guy with that much time on his hands would be useful to any organization. Please inquire for a job at Kor-Azor Prime, Moon Griklaeum, Ishukone Corporation Factory, we still need someone to count our minerals (doing something useful for a achange). James 315 wrote:... The majority of human highsec miners have quit mining. ... We would hope so, the less unwanted competitors the better. We can already feel the higher minerals prices in our wallet. Though I still see to many competitors where we operate. James 315 wrote:... In light of these facts, we must now realize that the extinction of highsec mining is not just an impossible dream anymore. ... I'm waiting... ... still ... ... perhaps some of those fabled Hulkageddon gankers would care to show up one day?
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R0me0 Charl1e
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.12 08:58:00 -
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I can see only good things from these events. This is making EVE a healthier place to live in. |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
430
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Posted - 2012.05.12 09:06:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Catalyst: 1.4m Light Neutron Blaster II: 1.3m*8=10.4m Gunnery Mods: 3 million Everything Else: ~ a few hundred thousand
Total Value: 15 million Surviving Mods: 6.8 million, assuming 50% survival rate for modules Sunk Cost: 8.2 million per Catalyst  You're doing it wrong. Switching from T2 to T1 means you can use 2 catalysts for this job, and afford an Orca full of Catalysts for the same price as those guns of yours. Now factor in the salvage and loot from the Hulk or Mackinaw you just killed. It's really not that hard to do it right. Do you gank Hulks? |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
936
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Posted - 2012.05.12 09:08:00 -
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I enjoy not logging in, but watching my wallet keep going higher. Nothing like buying a bunch of stuff, putting them up on market marked up dramatically and waiting for this to happen.
People were saying I was crazy and no way my wares would sell. Now they are flying off the shelves. Thank you Hulkaggedon participants for making me more rich.
/tips hat
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

DF3CT
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.12 09:09:00 -
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Not sure if serious....or self trolling....
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Whitehound
272
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Posted - 2012.05.12 09:13:00 -
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Help me, I am looking for the thread with the people who do not care. I cannot find it.
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
142
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Posted - 2012.05.12 09:53:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Catalyst: 1.4m Light Neutron Blaster II: 1.3m*8=10.4m Gunnery Mods: 3 million Everything Else: ~ a few hundred thousand
Total Value: 15 million Surviving Mods: 6.8 million, assuming 50% survival rate for modules Sunk Cost: 8.2 million per Catalyst  You're doing it wrong. Switching from T2 to T1 means you can use 2 catalysts for this job, and afford an Orca full of Catalysts for the same price as those guns of yours. Now factor in the salvage and loot from the Hulk or Mackinaw you just killed. It's really not that hard to do it right.
Yes, and another account is free of charge, right? Not to mention the time inefficiency and increased risk factor of using multiple accounts.
Ronald Reagan: I do not like Sweden, they support communism. Minister: Sir, but Sweden are anti-communist, Sir.-á Ronald Reagan: I do not care what kind of communists they are. |

Perramas
Pan Caldarian Ventures
179
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:20:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:I once sat next to a miner in my tengu and it warped out. When i told him that i was not going to gank him in my ship he said that he could not be sure.
Which adds evidence that miners have the least knowledge about this game than any other profession.
Or the miner was smart enough to know you could warp in a gang of cheap throw away ships right on top of him to blow him up.
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Grishken
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:24:00 -
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Maybe its me but I haven't noticed anything different in my mining operations. Except maybe that I am making more money with the price increases. |
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Testerxnot Sheepherder
Treasures Collectors Solar Citizens
280
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:46:00 -
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Less miners is indeed healthy for EVE.
OP however, is like an annoying parasitic ******* bacteria, i.e. unhealthy for EVE. |

March rabbit
Trojan Trolls Red Alliance
170
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:58:00 -
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James 315 wrote:... My own observations, corroborated by the dedicated bot-watchers in Crime & Punishment, have actually seen a proportionate increase in botting of late; a new network of easily-identified botters is crawling over the belts in highsec as we speak. What's happened is that the human miners, unlike the bots, became aware of Hulkageddon and have ceased mining. When humans abandoned the belts, the bots became a larger percentage of those left behind, and they stand out more. For example, a new type of ice-mining bot, very common today, flocks in the ice fields. They use an identical ship name scheme (a space before the ship name, easy to spot groups of them using your D-scanner), and they warp out one-by-one if you lock them. I have cleared out entire ice fields with a frigate just by locking up the bots, because there are no humans left mining there. The drop in mining has been disproportionately--perhaps entirely--caused by a decline in the number of human miners, not bots. Thus, the decrease in mining among humans in highsec is greater than 45.53%. We don't have official statistics on what percentage of the total mining in highsec is done by bots, but by all accounts it's a hefty amount. Therefore, this is the bottom line: The majority of human highsec miners have quit mining.- 315 so basically you support botting and do all you can to replace human miners with bots?
why you still aren't banned? 
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Drunken Bum
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.05.12 14:49:00 -
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I wonder when gankers are gonna realise that they're just as sad, if not as sad, as the pathetic miners they're ganking. Quit bragging about killing miners. Its like a teenager bragging that they beat down a toddler. There is no war here. Just a buncha scrubs killing scrubs that cant/wont/dont fight back. |

Whitehound
273
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Posted - 2012.05.12 14:54:00 -
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When you go to EVE Markets / Veldspar and click on the history tab can you see how much the volume has dropped.
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:01:00 -
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Enjoy your 700mil tier 1 "gank" BS scum. |

Tikera Tissant
33
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:10:00 -
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James 315 wrote: The majority of human highsec miners have quit mining.
I'll just out the obvious, as I didn't read the whole thread.
Once hulkaggedon is over, miners will go back to mining, the goons will go and start shooting at someone other than highsec'ers, and everything will go back to normal, as nothing happened.
It might take a month or two, but it will happen.
The fact that the current hulkaggedon is longer, will just cause the return of the miners to be delayed a bit longer.
Quote:Yes, and another account is free of charge, right? Not to mention the time inefficiency and increased risk factor of using multiple accounts.
If you have enough isk and enough income, a second account is free, and with the right machine multi-boxing is as easy as pie. All you need is plex. And with enough ganking, you can make a living out of it. |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:17:00 -
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Daneirkus Auralex wrote:I'd just like to add that if a large, null-sec alliance REALLY needed minerals, and it was impossible to procure them through normal means, its leadership would probably coordinate with allies, schedule a fleet, send some pings, and lo and behold, next thing you know there would be a multifaceted operation with 100 exhumers, 30 logistics, 15 orcas, 10 rorquals and a couple titans to bridge everyone around, plus 200 armor hacs w/ support on patrol spewing bubbles everywhere to protect the fleet, plus 25 carriers and 15 supercarriers on standby within jump range, a wing of stealth bombers patrolling the region, and rifterswarms guarding all the gates. And the entire constellation would probably be clear of ore within a few hours.
Perhaps people should make some friends, come to nullsec and start playing the real game.
Those AHACs would get instapop'd by Minnie HACs. Arty power!
Still waiting that Rokh killmail in 1.0... Seriously, pvp'ers show how good you really are. |

Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
648
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:29:00 -
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Pro-tip: OP gets an erection hearing himself speak, probably likes to type out his massively long wall of texts about the lol-issue that mining is and then read it aloud to make sure his long windbag speech sounds ok.
While we are on the subject, can we just have CCP remove strip miners, mining lasers, and the refinement skill for modules (no need to refund the SP, the characters will no longer be used) to just prevent harvesting of more minerals. BLAM! Single headshot to the knee, kill the entire issue all at once and we no longer need the players to keep up the work of telling CCP how ******* poor this stupid idea of theirs has been for the last nine years (Yes CCP, mining was a **** poor boring ass profession and you are welcome for us the customers informing you). We should at least have another 6-9 months worth of ore and minerals until till demand drops and the market can dictate the price...god I would love to see a 300m rifter that wasn't set up as a scam...and then everyone will start feeling real losses when they can no longer replace their ships (and rookie ships become the new blob fleet) |

Reicheck
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.05.12 16:16:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:These are great days we're living, bros. We are jolly green goons, walking New Eden with guns. These people we wasted here this month are the finest miners we will ever know. After we rotate back to Deklein, we're gonna miss not having anyone around that's worth shooting.
I am not very fond of GSF, but you sir, have earned a special place in my heart. Full Metal Goons, makes me smile.
As for the OP. Blah blah blah. You take yourself too seriously. So.. moar txt plz!!!!111 No sig here. |

Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
34
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Posted - 2012.05.12 16:22:00 -
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Thanx to the effort. I even plled ot my dusty hlk to make some afk iskies. Prices are definately going the right way for me to bother making some afk isk. |
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nubile slave
Furian Necromongers
10
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Posted - 2012.05.12 16:27:00 -
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Perhaps OP could explain the drop in mineral prices? And the fact that whole areas of Eve Highsec seem to have tons of miners...? |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.05.12 16:47:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Whilst it is commendable that miners are trying ganking, your appear to have missed one vital thing. If no-one is mining, and the bots are all banned, then how do you expect to pay for your ships in a years time when a cruiser costs 600mil? Or when you have to go out mining to build it....oh wait, you can't do that because you will just get blown up.
noone ever thinks about that Or theyre too wrapped up in looking to destroy "your" game to care Or they get 1 trillion in moon Goo a day so they care...
http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
149
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Posted - 2012.05.12 16:50:00 -
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nubile slave wrote:Perhaps OP could explain the drop in mineral prices? And the fact that whole areas of Eve Highsec seem to have tons of miners...? 
If you put :effort: into planning where you mine you wont replace your hulk. I never tank my hulk (not on this guy ocf) and yet I have yet to ever get ATTACKED much less lose one.
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Whitehound
274
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Posted - 2012.05.12 17:00:00 -
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nubile slave wrote:Perhaps OP could explain the drop in mineral prices? And the fact that whole areas of Eve Highsec seem to have tons of miners...?  The recent drop of mineral prices, like one could see in the last week, is due to a few players selling billions of minerals back into the market after the long climb during the months before. It is the speculators, who are cashing in on their profits. For Tritanium is it the magic 6.00 ISK barrier, which triggered it and simply because it is a round number. The price for Tritanium is however back from the recent drop and climbing again. I expect to see Tritanium stabilize at this price for the foreseeable future. Veldspar has become the 2nd most valuable high-sec ore and miners will put a lot of Tritanium into the market after Hulkageddon. Pyerite, Mexallon and Isogen could be climbing further or Tritanium might fall a little, but the ore prices (ISK/m3) are somewhat unusual and miners will cause these to adjust. Nocxium as the most valuable high-sec mineral will possibly drop further. However, in general is there no price drop and the mineral prices are all on an awesome high.
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |

Eaorgan Dax
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.12 17:45:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Two weeks ago, I wrote a Manifesto II in which I called upon the people of EVE to put a stop to all mining in highsec. Most people probably thought it was crazy to even consider such a thing possible. Not anymore. We're already more than halfway there! Granted, some miners will return to the belts once Hulkageddon ends. But many will not. 1 Having been forced to adapt and try out other professions, and having found them more rewarding, they will leave mining for good. 2 As the miners' numbers diminish, so does their power and influence over CCP.
You truly are an idiot aren't you?, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Point 1, If mining in high drops further, the price of minerals will go up and the players will start mining again because it's profitable again, all hulkageddon does is restart that cycle over and over and over again.
Point 2. Miners have influence over CCP? So, you wanna tell me that's why warp core stabilizers are such pieces of crap and are hopelessly impractical on a mining barge ( it decreases range DRAMATICALLY and you need at least 2 of the freaking things ), so that nobody will ever use them for this, which in fact makes them sitting ducks when something costing 1 10th of the price of a barge, locks, scramble's and shoots them.
Time to take off your tinfoil hat mister, if anything, CCP is providing aggressors with more and better tools then it does the industrialists. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3854
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Posted - 2012.05.12 18:21:00 -
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Lets throw in higher refiner taxes :P
espeically reprocessing, and penalizing modules being reprocessed on thier state of repiar.
what i am not enjoying however is how my little amount of isk buys.
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
402
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Posted - 2012.05.12 18:24:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:inb4 the same people who think pvp is the entire game complains that a cruiser costs as much as a plex. EVE is at its best when people take the galaxy and put it upon its head. Nothing in this game beats adding another "remember that time when..." Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |

Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2012.05.12 18:25:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:I hope every single high-sec miner rage-quits in tears. Until they do, I'll be upping my ransom prices on T1 hulls, which are finally worth something. Pathetic... Let's drive away subscribers in droves until there is no one left to pay the bills... |

Tobiaz
Spacerats
402
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Posted - 2012.05.12 18:28:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I hope every single high-sec miner rage-quits in tears. Until they do, I'll be upping my ransom prices on T1 hulls, which are finally worth something. Pathetic... Let's drive away subscribers in droves until there is no one left to pay the bills... Dramaqueen. That's how the game was in the beginning anyway and it was pretty awesome. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |

Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
77
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Posted - 2012.05.12 18:36:00 -
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I like the direction the game is going tbh we just need the new higher taxes and bounty nerf to be implemented and then a few months for prices to settle out a little. |
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