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Selinate
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Posted - 2012.05.15 00:50:00 -
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We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
333
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Posted - 2012.05.15 00:52:00 -
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can't wait to alpha some dual-tanked ravens eh |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
400
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Posted - 2012.05.15 00:53:00 -
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You know why that wont work? It requires effort. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
175
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Posted - 2012.05.15 00:53:00 -
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But that sounds, you know, like work.... and stuff. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
333
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Posted - 2012.05.15 00:54:00 -
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the sole reason you will never unite hisec against goonswarm is because there's no isk/hr eh |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
333
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Posted - 2012.05.15 00:55:00 -
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We are Omnipotence Itself eh |
Selinate
864
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Posted - 2012.05.15 00:58:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:We are Omnipotence Itself
No you aren't. Your throne's days are numbered. |
Edington Trent
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.05.15 00:59:00 -
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Highsec pilots measure their success in isk/hr.
Lowsec pilots measure their success in kills/hr
Nullsec pilots measure their success in blobs/hr
Goons measure their success in tears/hr
(and wormhole pilots watch it all on the forums and laugh) "Keep it dangerous, keep it risky. That sense of GÇ£here goesGÇ¥ every time you undock should never leave us."-á |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace n Quiet
109
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:01:00 -
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I don't even.....what is this? I had a discussion very similar to this one only last night, my opinion that EVE is better WITH Goons, than without, was not well received by some. |
Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
157
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:01:00 -
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You do realize DRF died last year right, and that most of the major russian alliances are very weak now (xDeath is dead and was friendly to goons anyway, RA is a joke now, SOLAR is too busy making bank off their new hoard of renters, -A- lacks the resources to be real threat)?
Id love to see someone actually be able to pull a couple thousand highsec pubbies out of their missions to try and put forth any viable assault against the CFC. |
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
333
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:01:00 -
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No POS-spam, strontmanaging nor hostile blobs could stop us. It could only delay us, and make us work for it. Thats all you can do now, delay us. No sov levels, no POS-spam, no strontmanaging, no blobs can stop us. We are after your blood. eh |
Prop Wash
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:03:00 -
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No, I do not want goons gone.
All the best, Prop Wash |
Dessau
43
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:04:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:You know why that wont work? It requires effort. C'mon, move, move, move! CCP. Non-Russians deserve red jackets. As an alternative, I would also accept some form of USA-only content. |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
295
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:04:00 -
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Denied. Would the next carebear that thinks he can take down the Goons please stand up? |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1436
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:04:00 -
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Don't fret.
New games are being developed all the time. Soon enough one will come out that is easier to exploit and grief in than EVE. Then you will see a huge gap in the map literally overnight and the little bees will be nothing but a bad memory.
Mr Epeen There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |
Boomhaur
56
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:09:00 -
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And why do I want to kill the Goons? I broke through their Burn Jita and conducted business like normal several times, except I had less competition so I made a lot more money. I also sold items I wouldn't normally deal with because of it and made even more isk from it. So besides their reputation of being jerks, why would I want them to leave? The way I see it their good for business and the economy I have more incentive as a person into PVE to help them than to hunt them. Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:11:00 -
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Dang you Poe, and your silly law. For Reference: Poe's Law "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
731
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:13:00 -
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Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani. Headshot in VFK? Call all the titans baby, it's time for war ~~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
adopt
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
395
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:14:00 -
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The Northern Coalition was a loosely banded coalition of alliances with a similar goal; they shared no leadership, fleet doctrines or communication services (save for jabber).
The Clusterfuck Coalition or CFC is a tight nit coalition of alliances that have bent over backwards for each other; they share leadership, fleet doctrines, communication services and will stand to the last man.
Tell me how this mega-coalition goes~ Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled.
FREE XOLVE ~ THE HERO TEST NEEDS |
Torneach
Emrys Enterprises
105
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:20:00 -
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Well, the overconfidence shown in this thread means that if people tried, they could probably dethrone the goons and the rest of the CFC.
Now, of course, there's the issue with the 'trying' part... |
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
335
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:28:00 -
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Torneach wrote:Well, the overconfidence shown in this thread means that if people tried, they could probably dethrone the goons and the rest of the CFC.
yes they'd only need a few thousand pilots, a common communications infrastructure, solid timezone coverage with capable FCs across those TZs, a common fleet doctrine, hundreds of supercapitals, hundreds of billions of ISK for ship replacements, capable leadership, diplomatic skill, reliable intel, logistics (not talking about the t2 cruiser) and you know what let's just say that "trying" isn't enough eh |
Torneach
Emrys Enterprises
105
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:28:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Torneach wrote:Well, the overconfidence shown in this thread means that if people tried, they could probably dethrone the goons and the rest of the CFC. yes they'd only need a few thousand pilots, a common communications infrastructure, solid timezone coverage with capable FCs across those TZs, a common fleet doctrine, hundreds of supercapitals, hundreds of billions of ISK for ship replacements, capable leadership, diplomatic skill, reliable intel, logistics (not talking about the t2 cruiser) and you know what let's just say that "trying" isn't enough
How did Goons get their start in nullsec?
Yeah, they just swarmed their enemies with a huge supply of cheap ships.
Attrition can win wars too. |
Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
139
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:31:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:We are Omnipotence Itself Just hope there is no Supreme Being.
Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
Orlacc
Javalinas
150
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:33:00 -
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Goons?
Jimmy Cliff had a hit once.... |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:34:00 -
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Torneach wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Torneach wrote:Well, the overconfidence shown in this thread means that if people tried, they could probably dethrone the goons and the rest of the CFC. yes they'd only need a few thousand pilots, a common communications infrastructure, solid timezone coverage with capable FCs across those TZs, a common fleet doctrine, hundreds of supercapitals, hundreds of billions of ISK for ship replacements, capable leadership, diplomatic skill, reliable intel, logistics (not talking about the t2 cruiser) and you know what let's just say that "trying" isn't enough How did Goons get their start in nullsec? Yeah, they just swarmed their enemies with a huge supply of cheap ships. Attrition can win wars too.
What are you saying a bunch of whining, brainless nerds, who can't even tank a hulk properly, can get into cheap ships and take down the Goons. Oh....this will worth the admission. *runs to get popcorn*
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Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
139
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:36:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:What are you saying a bunch of whining, brainless nerds, who can't even tank a hulk properly, can get into cheap ships and take down the Goons. Oh....this will worth the admission. *runs to get popcorn*
So heroic of you to be willing to watch! Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
Torneach
Emrys Enterprises
105
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:43:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:What are you saying a bunch of whining, brainless nerds, who can't even tank a hulk properly, can get into cheap ships and take down the Goons. Oh....this will worth the admission. *runs to get popcorn*
Who knows? There may come a time where hiseccers have been poked long and hard enough and a leader steps up and organizes the hisec base, gets them to learn a few things, and something will be made of it.
But, like I said, the likelihood is low. I'm only saying there's a possibility, as remote as it may be. And the CFC's overconfidence only opens those doors wider.
If someone will just walk through that door.
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Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
449
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:47:00 -
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Torneach wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:What are you saying a bunch of whining, brainless nerds, who can't even tank a hulk properly, can get into cheap ships and take down the Goons. Oh....this will worth the admission. *runs to get popcorn* Who knows? There may come a time where hiseccers have been poked long and hard enough and a leader steps up and organizes the hisec base, gets them to learn a few things, and something will be made of it. But, like I said, the likelihood is low. I'm only saying there's a possibility, as remote as it may be. And the CFC's overconfidence only opens those doors wider. If someone will just walk through that door.
Hisec can't refrain from mining during Hulkageddon, I don't think CFC has anything to worry about for a long time. "If." |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:50:00 -
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Torneach wrote:Who knows? There may come a time where hiseccers have been poked long and hard enough and a leader steps up and organizes the hisec base, gets them to learn a few things, and something will be made of it.
But, like I said, the likelihood is low. I'm only saying there's a possibility, as remote as it may be. And the CFC's overconfidence only opens those doors wider.
If someone will just walk through that door.
To say the likelihood is low is being gracious.
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Torneach
Emrys Enterprises
105
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:52:00 -
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Verte Sinkon wrote:Torneach wrote:Who knows? There may come a time where hiseccers have been poked long and hard enough and a leader steps up and organizes the hisec base, gets them to learn a few things, and something will be made of it.
But, like I said, the likelihood is low. I'm only saying there's a possibility, as remote as it may be. And the CFC's overconfidence only opens those doors wider.
If someone will just walk through that door.
To say the likelihood is low is being gracious.
True.
It would be fair to say the chance is so low it may as well be 0.
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RAP ACTION HERO
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2012.05.15 02:17:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Don't fret. New games are being developed all the time. Soon enough one will come out that is easier to exploit and grief in than EVE. Then you will see a huge gap in the map literally overnight and the little bees will be nothing but a bad memory. Mr Epeen
don't think the goons will like tera but maybe you do. |
KoreanSnap PingTurtle
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.05.15 02:20:00 -
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I don't want the goons gone, there so fun to laugh at. They are such space nerd role players, even the mittani himself: "the heartless fear-monger I play in-game is just that, a role in a game". They don't cause anyone tears. The only person tehy make cry are there mother's and father's for being such failures IRL |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.05.15 02:25:00 -
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Torneach wrote:Verte Sinkon wrote:Torneach wrote:Who knows? There may come a time where hiseccers have been poked long and hard enough and a leader steps up and organizes the hisec base, gets them to learn a few things, and something will be made of it.
But, like I said, the likelihood is low. I'm only saying there's a possibility, as remote as it may be. And the CFC's overconfidence only opens those doors wider.
If someone will just walk through that door.
To say the likelihood is low is being gracious. True. It would be fair to say the chance is so low it may as well be 0.
You could say it's null.
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
336
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Posted - 2012.05.15 02:28:00 -
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KoreanSnap PingTurtle wrote:I don't want the goons gone, there so fun to laugh at. They are such space nerd role players, even the mittani himself: "the heartless fear-monger I play in-game is just that, a role in a game". They don't cause anyone tears. The only person tehy make cry are there mother's and father's for being such failures IRL
at least my upbringing taught me that grocer's apostrophes are grammatically incorrect eh |
Karloth Valois
1st. Pariah Malefactor corp.
22
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Posted - 2012.05.15 02:28:00 -
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Goons are like herpes, will never really go away. Because they are joined outside of the game through SA forums.
Plus i really love the idea of high-sec coming together to take out the goons. If it ever could happen would be so funny to watch a load of mission runner in min-max'd ships typing maddly in fleet chat (because they dont use voice comms) as soon as they hit a drag bubble and cant work out why they cant warp. It's not been nice, but thanks for using lube
1st. Pariah Malefactor Corp. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
732
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Posted - 2012.05.15 02:35:00 -
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Verte Sinkon wrote:Torneach wrote:Verte Sinkon wrote:Torneach wrote:Who knows? There may come a time where hiseccers have been poked long and hard enough and a leader steps up and organizes the hisec base, gets them to learn a few things, and something will be made of it.
But, like I said, the likelihood is low. I'm only saying there's a possibility, as remote as it may be. And the CFC's overconfidence only opens those doors wider.
If someone will just walk through that door.
To say the likelihood is low is being gracious. True. It would be fair to say the chance is so low it may as well be 0. You could say it's null. 0.0
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
732
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Posted - 2012.05.15 02:51:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Torneach wrote:Well, the overconfidence shown in this thread means that if people tried, they could probably dethrone the goons and the rest of the CFC. yes they'd only need a few thousand pilots, a common communications infrastructure, solid timezone coverage with capable FCs across those TZs, a common fleet doctrine, hundreds of supercapitals, hundreds of billions of ISK for ship replacements, capable leadership, diplomatic skill, reliable intel, logistics (not talking about the t2 cruiser) and you know what let's just say that "trying" isn't enough THey also need isk per hour... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Zane Lowe
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.05.15 02:55:00 -
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Torneach wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:What are you saying a bunch of whining, brainless nerds, who can't even tank a hulk properly, can get into cheap ships and take down the Goons. Oh....this will worth the admission. *runs to get popcorn* Who knows? There may come a time where hiseccers have been poked long and hard enough and a leader steps up and organizes the hisec base, gets them to learn a few things, and something will be made of it. But, like I said, the likelihood is low. I'm only saying there's a possibility, as remote as it may be. And the CFC's overconfidence only opens those doors wider. If someone will just walk through that door.
Literally impossible. All of hisec couldn't muster a 20 man fleet to defend Chribba when a single CFC alliance (Test) took his station. Do you really think anyone in hisec, or null for that matter, could challenge the combined might of the CFC + PL?
Assuming we don't stagnate, we will only grow stronger with time. We have effectively "won" eve. |
Torneach
Emrys Enterprises
105
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Posted - 2012.05.15 03:01:00 -
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Your overconfidence may be your downfall...
Just sayin'. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1440
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Posted - 2012.05.15 03:06:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:KoreanSnap PingTurtle wrote:I don't want the goons gone, there so fun to laugh at. They are such space nerd role players, even the mittani himself: "the heartless fear-monger I play in-game is just that, a role in a game". They don't cause anyone tears. The only person tehy make cry are there mother's and father's for being such failures IRL at least my upbringing taught me that grocer's apostrophes are grammatically incorrect
It seems that your upbringing was a little light on other forms of punctuation though. That and the proper use of capitalization.
I can recommend some decent internet courses that even a little bee could follow, if you like.
Mr Epeen There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |
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Zane Lowe
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.05.15 03:16:00 -
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Torneach wrote:Your overconfidence may be your downfall...
Just sayin'.
facts =/= overconfidence
We won, it's just a matter of staying together |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
339
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Posted - 2012.05.15 03:16:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:KoreanSnap PingTurtle wrote:I don't want the goons gone, there so fun to laugh at. They are such space nerd role players, even the mittani himself: "the heartless fear-monger I play in-game is just that, a role in a game". They don't cause anyone tears. The only person tehy make cry are there mother's and father's for being such failures IRL at least my upbringing taught me that grocer's apostrophes are grammatically incorrect It seems that your upbringing was a little light on other forms of punctuation though. That and the proper use of capitalization. I can recommend some decent internet courses that even a little bee could follow, if you like. Mr Epeen
my upbringing also taught me that signing posts over a medium where your name/alias is already displayed is redundant
richard desturned eh |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
251
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Posted - 2012.05.15 03:25:00 -
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WHY ?
High-sec doesn't really notice them.
Jita was nothing more then a weekend of well fun for those that showed up.
Hulkegeddon's ? well the last I checked the Goon's where not the only ones involved, I don't even think they have made a majority of the kills.
Low-sec - not sure they have done anything to low-sec, nothing more then any other alliance. H-Space - same.
0.0 - Well about a year ago or is it 2 now, Goon's were sweating when the north collapsed. I remember a lot of screaming about super capitals being out of balance back then when Goon's did not hold the majority and could have been run over. Some politics later and a crying campaign and the crisis was over for them.
They are not really a threat there either, I don't think any alliance is foolish enough to try and take and hold 0.0.
0.0 is pretty much in a stalemate right now, expect that to change come fall, everyone builds during the summer months as people go out and enjoy the sun.
So in short nobody cares enough about Goon's to get rid of them.
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
339
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Posted - 2012.05.15 03:29:00 -
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ah yes the "goons are irrelevant" line eh |
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
446
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Posted - 2012.05.15 03:35:00 -
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Anyone who is against anyone else who plays the game to the best of their ability and to the means they desire, -without complaining-, is an enemy of mine and will be descended upon by my poorly fit Tengus, Ferox #1 |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1440
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Posted - 2012.05.15 03:42:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:KoreanSnap PingTurtle wrote:I don't want the goons gone, there so fun to laugh at. They are such space nerd role players, even the mittani himself: "the heartless fear-monger I play in-game is just that, a role in a game". They don't cause anyone tears. The only person tehy make cry are there mother's and father's for being such failures IRL at least my upbringing taught me that grocer's apostrophes are grammatically incorrect It seems that your upbringing was a little light on other forms of punctuation though. That and the proper use of capitalization. I can recommend some decent internet courses that even a little bee could follow, if you like. Mr Epeen my upbringing also taught me that signing posts over a medium where your name/alias is already displayed is redundant richard desturned
Yes, it is redundant, but that's not why I do it, of course.
I do it because I enjoy the obsessive pointing it out by the likes of harlot, andski, mittani and his alts and now you, who I expect will take up the banner from harlot.
If there is one thing little bees are completely anal about, it's stating the obvious. As long as the bee OCD continues, so will I continue to encourage it.
Mr Epeen
There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |
RubyPorto
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1496
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Posted - 2012.05.15 03:44:00 -
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Torneach wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Torneach wrote:Well, the overconfidence shown in this thread means that if people tried, they could probably dethrone the goons and the rest of the CFC. yes they'd only need a few thousand pilots, a common communications infrastructure, solid timezone coverage with capable FCs across those TZs, a common fleet doctrine, hundreds of supercapitals, hundreds of billions of ISK for ship replacements, capable leadership, diplomatic skill, reliable intel, logistics (not talking about the t2 cruiser) and you know what let's just say that "trying" isn't enough How did Goons get their start in nullsec? Yeah, they just swarmed their enemies with a huge supply of cheap ships. Attrition can win wars too.
A big issue is the way alliance level income and other Sov mechanics have changed since GSF and the current major powers rose to prominence.
When GSF got its start, alliances generally started in lowsec taking R64s which were geographically spread out and difficult to defend (due to the lack of power projection [carriers were rare at this time]). After taking some R64s in Lowsec or NPC null, Alliances could begin to fund an attack on a smaller alliance, taking more R64s and so on and so forth. Eventually an alliance could work its way up into a major power. In addition, the smaller sizes of alliances meant that timezone coverage was harder and it was harder to keep important fights in your primetime (POSes could be kited or mis-stronted). In addition, R64s provided a less concentrated and less valuable income source (each moon was less valuable, but there are more of them).
Currently there is a sharp divide between the 3 kinds of Sov Holding Nullsec alliances.
Tech holding alliances (GSF, PL, etc) have a spectacular income to the point where they can easily replace almost any fleet combat losses, preventing attrition from having meaningful effect on the wallet balance (Tech income is much larger than R64 income ever was). They have also been in place long enough to have enormous capital and supercapital resources.
Renting alliances (SOLAR, old RA, etc) have a similarly spectacular income, but depend on having large tracts of defensible space to rent out, along with continued good PR to keep renters happy. Attrition isn't a problem to these alliances so long as they don't lose too many important, visible battles. These alliances also have enormous capital and supercapital resources, but as their income is more easily disrupted, they will be fielded less often if they start losing battles.
Finally there are Renter alliances. They don't fight. They're not the way to become powerful, but they can cause trouble if they get big enough that they would be difficult to evict (see IRC). So they can disrupt Renting alliances.
Small, upstart alliances can't begin by taking Tech, because each and every moon is valuable enough to launch a stiff defense for it. They can't begin by renting, because they don't have any significant amount of space. Finally, they can't really begin by renting, because people who join renter alliances aren't looking to become spacelords, they just want to rat/mine in peace.
Both Tech and Renter alliances can be disrupted and collapse (NC and RA), but the void will be filled by existing powers rather than small, new ones.
So, without a way to slowly grow and without income sources that are not individually worth defending mightily, new alliances don't really have a way to grow and take space, and while the only way to hurt existing space holders is to win fights (holding the field matters, not the ISK war), the patented Goonswarm Rifters-to-Sovereignty plan no longer works. In addition, while forming an alliance where individuals pay for their combat losses themselves is possible, it's not realistic, even if your morale can handle it, players need time to make money and that takes time away from an offensive campaign.
Mind you, this isn't Goonswarm's fault. It's CCP's fault for ravaging the pooch on the R64 nerf, and CCP's fault for introducing Supercarriers and Titans, assuming that cost can be a balancing factor in a game where Pilots, not materials, are the limiting factor in fleet composition. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
251
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Posted - 2012.05.15 03:50:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:ah yes the "goons are irrelevant" line
Look you all can goad all you want to try and get people to fight. It is the wrong time of year, and people are obviously are just not interested. Maybe come fall the player base will be ready to rattle sabers on a massive scale. But right now most people are more interested in small scale warfare.
You have gotten too big for people to bother with, so they will ignore you and find someone they can actually have fun battling. That is the sandbox of EVE people do what they want.
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Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
77
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Posted - 2012.05.15 04:00:00 -
[49] - Quote
Remove Sanshas from incursions and insert Goons |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
733
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Posted - 2012.05.15 04:05:00 -
[50] - Quote
Simetraz wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:ah yes the "goons are irrelevant" line Look you all can goad all you want to try and get people to fight. It is the wrong time of year, and people are obviously, just not interested. Maybe come fall the player base will be ready to rattle sabers on a massive scale. But right now most people are more interested in small scale warfare. You have gotten too big for people to bother with, so they will ignore you and find someone they can actually have fun battling. That is the sandbox of EVE people do what they want. ie: goons are irrelevant people because people can ignore them
Well that's fine I guess. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
340
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Posted - 2012.05.15 04:05:00 -
[51] - Quote
Simetraz wrote:But right now most people are more interested in small scale warfare.
yeah because thousands of people hold their breath for the outcome of a small gang fight that takes place outside of jove space eh |
Pres Crendraven
23
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Posted - 2012.05.15 04:06:00 -
[52] - Quote
Perhaps the Goons can help us attack them. THey are so omnipotent, what could it hurt? Maybe they could supply us with hulks??? Meta34me
Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent. |
Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
129
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Posted - 2012.05.15 04:20:00 -
[53] - Quote
Squashing goons is like squashing a turd, it doesnt go away, it sticks to everything and smears around.
Best to keep it all in one place. |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.05.15 04:27:00 -
[54] - Quote
Ahahahaha wow. The rationalizing just never stops.
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Tarn Kugisa
Magnetic Testing Group - Please Ignore Negative Zone
79
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Posted - 2012.05.15 04:42:00 -
[55] - Quote
I try not to antagonize the Goons. Maybe because, well they are the largest single united group of players in the game. Not a good idea to be bad enemies with 8K plus players, plus whatever allies they have.
I support all your highsec ganking I Endorse this Product and/or Service [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580[/url] |
Shian Yang
122
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Posted - 2012.05.15 05:11:00 -
[56] - Quote
Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Greetings capsuleer,
I can see you know how to write grand sounding words. What is your next step? The one that will turn your words into deeds...
Regards,
Shian Yang |
Pres Crendraven
23
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Posted - 2012.05.15 05:14:00 -
[57] - Quote
Designing the hexagramanon of doom. Meta34me
Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent. |
Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
43
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Posted - 2012.05.15 05:28:00 -
[58] - Quote
Offering my services as translator. I can read russian, but can only type in english letters, lol. Ya mogu chitatz russki, no ne umeyu pechatatz russkimi bukvami =( o/ price is 500 billion isk/hour naw i'm kidding i'll do it for 25-100mil/hr depending on how intensive the convo is |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
733
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Posted - 2012.05.15 05:37:00 -
[59] - Quote
Shian Yang wrote:Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down. Greetings capsuleer, I can see you know how to write grand sounding words. What is your next step? The one that will turn your words into deeds... Regards, Shian Yang Forming a fleet? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Shian Yang
123
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Posted - 2012.05.15 05:42:00 -
[60] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Forming a fleet?
Greetings capsuleer Fera,
This may be part of it, yes. But I've heard rumours there are non-capsuleer pilots and planet dwellers that keep a recalcitrant, imperious animal known as a "cat". From what I understand, forming a cohesive group is much akin to herding these beasts. Then there are the logistics, the strategic planning and the work involved in bringing about the downfall of the largest Empire in New Eden ...
It is not as simple as "Ask the Cosmonauts to do it for me".
Regards,
Shian Yang
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1138
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Posted - 2012.05.15 06:00:00 -
[61] - Quote
Kietay Ayari wrote:Anyone who is against anyone else who plays the game to the best of their ability and to the means they desire, -without complaining-, is an enemy of mine and will be descended upon by my poorly fit Tengus, I will lend you my badly fit drake-sword as well! |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
135
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Posted - 2012.05.15 06:11:00 -
[62] - Quote
GAS THREAD, BAN OP
I wanna hear about the new launchers not this stupid crap day after day.
Deal wiz it! . |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
733
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Posted - 2012.05.15 06:49:00 -
[63] - Quote
Shian Yang wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Forming a fleet? Greetings capsuleer Fera, This may be part of it, yes. But I've heard rumours there are non-capsuleer pilots and planet dwellers that keep a recalcitrant, imperious animal known as a "cat". From what I understand, forming a cohesive group is much akin to herding these beasts. Then there are the logistics, the strategic planning and the work involved in bringing about the downfall of the largest Empire in New Eden ... It is not as simple as " Ask the Cosmonauts to do it for me". Regards, Shian Yang Hello Pilot Yang,
It's us. We are the space cats. POSes are like scratching posts, you simply must shoot it ~
Jamming the POS,
~Ala
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3767
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Posted - 2012.05.15 07:02:00 -
[64] - Quote
Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani.
The DRF were always pretty terrible, they succeeded because
(1) The NC was even worse (2) Because they contracted PL first.
Now there is no DRF; RA and XiX have been kicked out of their space and are too busy trying not to fail altogether, SOLAR hates both of them and are having the time of their lives tyvm, and PL won't face 1000 bees in arty Maels.
If you want to beat goons, you'll have to do 2 rather unpleasant things
(1) You'll have to admit that goons are right about a number of things and do them extremely well; training and retaining new players, managing a coalition, instilling a culture of indifference to losses so long as goals are achieved
(2) Put in a few years of constant effort to build up a large alliance and a powerful coalition like they did.
I wish you the best of luck. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
734
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Posted - 2012.05.15 07:10:00 -
[65] - Quote
You know, we should make some kind of special arrangements.
Highsec has Red vs Blue
Maybe we (and by we I mean you highseccers, of course) should start up an alliance called Band of Brothers. (BoB.) and then have regular fights. Like an unending Great War or continual gladiatorial games.
I'm not sure, but Cobalt Edge has a group of people living in it who love to fight us but sadly are NC. pets. You could try living there, but be independent ! Except on your military industrial machine, of course. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
632
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Posted - 2012.05.15 07:15:00 -
[66] - Quote
Kietay Ayari wrote:Anyone who is against anyone else who plays the game to the best of their ability and to the means they desire, -without complaining-, is an enemy of mine and will be descended upon by my poorly fit Tengus,
Im not sure whos side that means you would be on?
I love threads like this <3 Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3767
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Posted - 2012.05.15 07:17:00 -
[67] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:Don't fret. New games are being developed all the time. Soon enough one will come out that is easier to exploit and grief in than EVE. Then you will see a huge gap in the map literally overnight and the little bees will be nothing but a bad memory. Mr Epeen
Yeah, their seven year reign of terror is just about over.
Any minute now.
Won't be long.
You'll see. Waiting for some unspecified developer to bring out an imaginary game is the right strategy here, not logging in and playing EVE better than them. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
343
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Posted - 2012.05.15 07:19:00 -
[68] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:PL won't face 1000 bees in arty Maels.
To be fair that's as pleasant as being on the other end of a blob of tracking titans eh |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3767
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Posted - 2012.05.15 07:32:00 -
[69] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:Malcanis wrote:PL won't face 1000 bees in arty Maels. To be fair that's as pleasant as being on the other end of a blob of tracking titans
It's not a proper endgame doctrine and you should be ashamed. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
511
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Posted - 2012.05.15 07:55:00 -
[70] - Quote
I vote keeping the Goons. They are pretty funny at times. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
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Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
203
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Posted - 2012.05.15 10:48:00 -
[71] - Quote
Goons drum up more controversy and interest in Eve than anyone else. Until someone does it better, they can keep playing the villains all they bloody well like. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
690
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Posted - 2012.05.15 10:50:00 -
[72] - Quote
The Goons are great.
I have spoken I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Josef Djugashvilis
160
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Posted - 2012.05.15 11:01:00 -
[73] - Quote
Apart form the goons themselves and their alts playing devil's advocate to troll the forums, who cares? You want fries with that? |
RealaiX
Yard Industries Seventh Heaven
8
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Posted - 2012.05.15 11:04:00 -
[74] - Quote
Selinate wrote: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
just one question...
what language is spoken by the goons? goonish ?
and you havent mentioned the players that use located clients and doesn't speak english or russian aswell !
so if "you" want to take them down you should rethink your wording to get "all" involved ! because you would need "all" to get rid of them !
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Alghu Karaolum
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.05.15 11:16:00 -
[75] - Quote
...ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant .Tacitus
I'm all for fighting goons but i don't want them gone. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
236
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Posted - 2012.05.15 11:47:00 -
[76] - Quote
Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani.
You do realize that the moment any fleet is created, with the sole intention of invading goonswarm space will cause an "emergency" reboot to tranquility. When the fleet logs back in they'll just find themselves back in their home stations...
This is one of the "cool" features to EVE... 'twas the night before Jitageddon and all through 4-4. Not a freighter was undocked, not even the transports. Outside the undock was Goonswarm, floating with care. |
Generals4
Caldari State
721
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Posted - 2012.05.15 12:23:00 -
[77] - Quote
Now if people could just act in game instead of talking about it on forums... Kind of tiring to see goon thread after goon thread. I think that if all the Goon haters would have put all those efforts whining about them on the forums into doing something in game something may have already been "achieved". -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |
Kimiko Tojima
Daughters of Hada
6
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Posted - 2012.05.15 12:25:00 -
[78] - Quote
Is the OP a Goon by any chance? Do they have an internal competition for the most creative "kill all gewns" thread?
Or are there really so many sad guys running around in this game?
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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope Gallente Federation
1650
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Posted - 2012.05.15 13:05:00 -
[79] - Quote
Nope...I want Goons to stay right where they are. Frankly if Goonswarm didn't exist then every single ******* in that alliance would be scattered about and potentially in my alliance. At least this way we know where they all are. If you don't like Goons then join an alliance and go kill them. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
219
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Posted - 2012.05.15 13:20:00 -
[80] - Quote
Sooner or later the big power blocks consume themselves and make space for new ambitious abominations. EGD: If you jettison what's in your brain, at least expect can flipping. |
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Sentient Blade
Walk It Off Imperial Ascension
373
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Posted - 2012.05.15 13:33:00 -
[81] - Quote
The problem with Goons is that due to the game's sandbox mechanics, there is no intrinsic end-game, and so the Goons invented one.
Unfortunately the end game they decided on was to bring around the end of the actual game, in other words, to break out of the sandbox and to force others out too.
While it's certainly a valid goal, I don't believe it is in the best interests of the actual game. |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
353
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Posted - 2012.05.15 13:54:00 -
[82] - Quote
The only way a large group of whining hi-sec PVE players would lower their paranoia shield to attack a group, like the Goons, would be if there was a magic mid-slot wand-like device that converted the enemy ships in to asteroids so they could be mined. (Can't use a high or low slot, that would have a negative impact on their yield, but they never really use their mid slots) The Unified Inventory system for Inferno, which I would recommend everybody tryon SiSi, is going to be the next 'Door' for CCP. What it adds is worthless when we lose so much functionality.-á |
Lord Salty
Catalyst ops Situation: Normal
7
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Posted - 2012.05.15 14:09:00 -
[83] - Quote
To be honest, i found this entire thread extremely funny. I think it would be great to see all of high sec and CFC's null enemies combined into a single attack force, if only to be apart of the epic and massive battle that follows. But i also agree with others that the Goons are too much fun to get rid of. I had an absolute blast in jita-geddon, kill mail whoring on all i could the other downside is that even if a single attack force formed they would need to take out tech moons to slow income. this would then bring about the entire OTEC which = titan blobs from PL super carrier blobs from PL Maelstrom blobs from CFC Drake blobs from CFC Even larger blobs of logi ships and triaged carriers and pantheon carriers from every alliance in OTEC. I also want to bet that there will be a shield repping rorqual, because why not.
Their drakes would literally blot out the sun of that system, if the maelstroms werent already doing it. Then the carriers will blot out the maelstroms on our overviews. Then the titans and supercarriers will blot out our screen and we wont see anything. then TIDI would be at 110% effectiveness and the game would simply stop. |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
495
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Posted - 2012.05.15 14:21:00 -
[84] - Quote
Hubris is a force of nature.
This entire thread is full of nature.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Jonah Gravenstein
292
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Posted - 2012.05.15 14:33:00 -
[85] - Quote
Shian Yang wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Forming a fleet? Greetings capsuleer Fera, This may be part of it, yes. But I've heard rumours there are non-capsuleer pilots and planet dwellers that keep a recalcitrant, imperious animal known as a "cat". From what I understand, forming a cohesive group is much akin to herding these beasts. Then there are the logistics, the strategic planning and the work involved in bringing about the downfall of the largest Empire in New Eden ... It is not as simple as " Ask the Cosmonauts to do it for me". Regards, Shian Yang
I've just had a epiphany, all cats are trolls used to playing in a sandbox, ergo if cats evolved thumbs they would be goons. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Bart Wart
3
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Posted - 2012.05.15 14:34:00 -
[86] - Quote
Forum games are fun and all (who doesn't like a good forum game, after all?). But let's not kid ourselves.
The goons, and the CFC in general, could probably take over all of Null sec if they wanted, given enough time and planning. They have more money and resources than God herself, superior organization, ability to recruit and retain large numbers of cannon fodder, and a mastery of the game mechanics.
The only thing that will kill the CFC are themselves, through various means, or some uber-uber meta gaming. Empty bromides on an Internet forum, while somewhat amusing, aren't going to do a damn thing.
Think about it: what is there left to do after you've proven that you can take on all comers like the CFC have? You raise your ambitions. What could be more ambitious than taking over New Eden? Turn high-sec and low-sec into ghetto while CFC rule null. |
Metal Icarus
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
167
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Posted - 2012.05.15 14:34:00 -
[87] - Quote
I have heard of people getting banned for engaging in combat in Jita. since Goons did it, it is now legal to smartbomb the undock of Jita 4-4.
IT IS. (did it the other day)
CCP will not ban you for undocking in scorp after scorp and smartbombing the undock. it is the only conclusion after the burning of jita by Goons. its not like the Goons paid/are supported by CCP and ban others that do what they do.
it is now officially encouraged to do this type of thing. CCP likes it when you this. Everyone can now burn jita.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
952
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Posted - 2012.05.15 14:56:00 -
[88] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Sorry, the SC already destroyed the DRF + Team Tech dual coalition. |
March rabbit
Trojan Trolls Red Alliance
174
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Posted - 2012.05.15 15:00:00 -
[89] - Quote
Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani. problem is: noone outside high-sec is bothering with goons yea they are fight sometime but i can't say they are too different from any null-sec alliance. |
Selene Theron
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.05.15 15:05:00 -
[90] - Quote
Goons are not the problem. If Goons didnt exsist the same minded people would fly under another banner and history will repeat itself.
Before it was BoB, now it is Goons. Eventually Goons will fall and another group will do the same things.
I dont care tbh. |
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Enuen Ravenseye
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
41
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Posted - 2012.05.15 15:10:00 -
[91] - Quote
Lord Salty wrote:I think it would be great to see all of high sec and CFC's null enemies combined into a single attack force, if only to be apart of the epic and massive battle that follows.
I don't think anyone could argue that, as "live events" go, a final battle between Goons/CFC and the combined forces of the hisec haters would be one of the grandest highlights of online gaming ever.
To paraphrase Star Trek: "It would be ... glorious."
CFC versus GHU (Goon Haters United), on pay-per-view. We should make this **** happen. |
Alotta Cleavage
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.05.15 17:03:00 -
[92] - Quote
Goons will implode sooner or later. Someone will walk off with the biggest haul ever or some IRL incident will get them in trouble and they will be a part of EVE history like BoB and others. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
585
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Posted - 2012.05.15 17:05:00 -
[93] - Quote
I love how goons think high sec players don't know how to tank ships *eye roll*
still it won't happen, not worth the effort, goons don't do anything to 90% of the highsec population anyways... are people still mad at burn jita? i thought it was fun, hope it happens next year as well. |
Sister Rhode
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.05.15 17:06:00 -
[94] - Quote
Just be patient, I'm sure we will forget to pay our sov bills sometime soon. |
Ohanka
The Lone Patrol Tactical Narcotics Team
35
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Posted - 2012.05.15 17:09:00 -
[95] - Quote
But then we'll have Russian RMT Bots everywhere |
Commit Sudoku
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.05.15 17:16:00 -
[96] - Quote
Herping yourDerp wrote:I love how goons think high sec players don't know how to tank ships *eye roll*
ive unironically seen triple tanks when scanning people in hisec. |
Jonah Gravenstein
292
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Posted - 2012.05.15 17:20:00 -
[97] - Quote
Ohanka wrote:But then we'll have Russian RMT Bots everywhere
If the Goon haters & CFC/CCP conspiracy theorys are to be believed the only thing that will have changed will be the owners of the bots.
/me dons Tinfoil HeadwearGäó War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3775
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Posted - 2012.05.15 17:23:00 -
[98] - Quote
Herping yourDerp wrote:I love how goons think high sec players don't know how to tank ships *eye roll*
It's hard to deny that a shockingly high proportion don't
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
953
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Posted - 2012.05.15 17:29:00 -
[99] - Quote
Herping yourDerp wrote:I love how goons think high sec players don't know how to tank ships *eye roll*. look we've all seen the hulkageddon killmails, you aren't convincing anyone that they do |
Pres Crendraven
23
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Posted - 2012.05.15 17:33:00 -
[100] - Quote
I saw a goon once. Meta34me
Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
734
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Posted - 2012.05.15 17:44:00 -
[101] - Quote
Kimiko Tojima wrote:Is the OP a Goon by any chance? Do they have an internal competition for the most creative "kill all gewns" thread?
Or are there really so many sad guys running around in this game?
Heh heh heh ...
Why of course not ~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Kasdeya Vetis
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
0
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Posted - 2012.05.15 18:04:00 -
[102] - Quote
Several years back, I had a federal government job in the States. I worked on a naval weapons station that had an alligator problem- they would occasionally wander out of the swamp and into the housing areas. Most weren't an issue, but there was one that was absolutely huge, and terrified everyone, even though he was as peaceful as could be. Seriously, the worst thing he ever did was block traffic for two hours because he got his head stuck under a guardrail trying to cross the road.
Anyhow, the station staff enlist some animal control and wildlife specialist folks to move this particular gator to the far side of the weapons station, because he's so scary lookin. So they track him tranq him, and get rid of him. What they didn't understand is that gator populations always have a top dog. He grows bigger than the rest because he consumes more- not because he's an abnormal occurrence. Sure enough, a year later, there's another gator the size of the old one, only this one is violent in the housing areas and starts taking out pets. They had to kill that one.
And they're still having to kill gators there, one at a time, as they get big enough to be truly dangerous to anyone but idiots. If they'd understood the dynamics of the thing they were messing with, they might have realized there wasn't much they could do about there always being one gator bigger than the others out there in the swamp. And they might have left it alone, realizing that the big gator they had to deal with right then wasn't nearly as bad as it could be.
Story time over- this post is completely unrelated to the thread. |
Jacada Ansari
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.05.15 18:17:00 -
[103] - Quote
I think you'll find that a huge amount of the publicity this game gets is because of how amazing we are, wars make our numbers swell so I very much welcome such an idea.
I think the OP should start a magnificent alliance that will make me tremble, I enjoy getting blown up. |
Khergit Deserters
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.05.15 18:23:00 -
[104] - Quote
Kasdeya Vetis wrote:Several years back, I had a federal government job in the States. I worked on a naval weapons station that had an alligator problem- they would occasionally wander out of the swamp and into the housing areas. Most weren't an issue, but there was one that was absolutely huge, and terrified everyone, even though he was as peaceful as could be. Seriously, the worst thing he ever did was block traffic for two hours because he got his head stuck under a guardrail trying to cross the road.
Anyhow, the station staff enlist some animal control and wildlife specialist folks to move this particular gator to the far side of the weapons station, because he's so scary lookin. So they track him tranq him, and get rid of him. What they didn't understand is that gator populations always have a top dog. He grows bigger than the rest because he consumes more- not because he's an abnormal occurrence. Sure enough, a year later, there's another gator the size of the old one, only this one is violent in the housing areas and starts taking out pets. They had to kill that one.
And they're still having to kill gators there, one at a time, as they get big enough to be truly dangerous to anyone but idiots. If they'd understood the dynamics of the thing they were messing with, they might have realized there wasn't much they could do about there always being one gator bigger than the others out there in the swamp. And they might have left it alone, realizing that the big gator they had to deal with right then wasn't nearly as bad as it could be.
Story time over- this post is completely unrelated to the thread. That's true. If you get rid of Goons, you'll just get something similar. And worse, because with less IQ, less style, more smack talk, more asshattery.
That said, I'm always for the little guy taking on the 900 lb. ape. Count me in on Million Bear March, Occupy Goons, whatever you want to call it. |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
301
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Posted - 2012.05.15 18:37:00 -
[105] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:We are Omnipotence Itself
But can you create a rock that is so heavy, even you cannot lift it? |
Romar Agent
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
19
|
Posted - 2012.05.15 18:59:00 -
[106] - Quote
Goons are not especially bad for EVE.
Personally I don't care, because they will never threaten my gameplay.
So, meh. |
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.05.15 19:16:00 -
[107] - Quote
Torneach wrote:Who knows? There may come a time where hiseccers have been poked long and hard enough and a leader steps up and organizes the hisec base, gets them to learn a few things, and something will be made of it.
But, like I said, the likelihood is low. I'm only saying there's a possibility, as remote as it may be. And the CFC's overconfidence only opens those doors wider.
If someone will just walk through that door.
I'll walk through that door! Now can anyone tell me what this pee vee pee thing is all about?
Actually there is nothing wrong with the Goons. They organise events and activities such as Burn Jita and Hulkageddon. I may be rather new, but I can't name a single event organised by another alliance than the CFC that is being discussed as passionately as those two, and that's by both the pirates AND the industrialists.
And what would this game be without a common enemy to curse at. Whether it'll ever come to a standoff, I seriously doubt though. " Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "
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highonpop
Void.Tech Fatal Ascension
68
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Posted - 2012.05.15 19:18:00 -
[108] - Quote
Yes, because Goons are the problem.
NOt the fact that most of you live in HS and base your assumption of nullsec corps on what you read on EN24 and the EVE-O forums.
/failthreadisfail My post was probably full of typos. I don;t care... |
Benny Ohu
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
122
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Posted - 2012.05.15 19:20:00 -
[109] - Quote
RealaiX wrote:what language is spoken by the goons? goonish ?
Well I thought about it a lot and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4PFF4MMYtQ
A lot bouncier than I remembered aktully [fapfapfap] |
Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
265
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Posted - 2012.05.15 19:22:00 -
[110] - Quote
highonpop wrote:Yes, because Goons are the problem.
NOt the fact that most of you live in HS and base your assumption of nullsec corps on what you read on EN24 and the EVE-O forums.
/failthreadisfail
You guys didn't leave Providence because you wanted to, you left because you weren't given a choice. Now you are part of a bigger blob and on that note, Goons will never be gone, just replaced. Like they replaced NC, Like NC replaced BoB.
Because it works.
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Sama Weaver
Homocidal Pacifists LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1
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Posted - 2012.05.15 19:29:00 -
[111] - Quote
Verte Sinkon wrote:Torneach wrote:Verte Sinkon wrote:Torneach wrote:Who knows? There may come a time where hiseccers have been poked long and hard enough and a leader steps up and organizes the hisec base, gets them to learn a few things, and something will be made of it.
But, like I said, the likelihood is low. I'm only saying there's a possibility, as remote as it may be. And the CFC's overconfidence only opens those doors wider.
If someone will just walk through that door.
To say the likelihood is low is being gracious. True. It would be fair to say the chance is so low it may as well be 0. You could say it's null.
"Nil" because trolling cures cancer. |
Pod Potato
Gluttonous Hungers Inc.
137
|
Posted - 2012.05.15 19:41:00 -
[112] - Quote
What me worry?
This has nothing to do with anything. I'm just dyslexic... Much like a pepper I enjoy inflicting pain on others... preferably in the mouth and anus. |
highonpop
Void.Tech Fatal Ascension
68
|
Posted - 2012.05.15 19:43:00 -
[113] - Quote
Skydell wrote:highonpop wrote:Yes, because Goons are the problem.
NOt the fact that most of you live in HS and base your assumption of nullsec corps on what you read on EN24 and the EVE-O forums.
/failthreadisfail You guys didn't leave Providence because you wanted to, you left because you weren't given a choice. Now you are part of a bigger blob and on that note, Goons will never be gone, just replaced. Like they replaced NC, Like NC replaced BoB. Because it works.
Actually, I was never in providence, if you look at this toon's history. I am a remnant of BLM leaving Cloud Ring.
I understand and support your position though. People act like goons are the devil solely on the information they get fed on EN24 (an anti-CFC propaganda site if I ever saw one) and the EVE-O forums (filled with highsecers mad that they play a sandbox and arent truly safe in highsec) My post was probably full of typos. I don;t care... |
Selinate
871
|
Posted - 2012.05.15 20:04:00 -
[114] - Quote
Sorry I was quiet for the whole day, I was moving to a new place. I know you missed me.
highonpop wrote:Yes, because Goons are the problem.
NOt the fact that most of you live in HS and base your assumption of nullsec corps on what you read on EN24 and the EVE-O forums.
/failthreadisfail
I live in a WH. Thanks. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
353
|
Posted - 2012.05.15 23:10:00 -
[115] - Quote
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:We are Omnipotence Itself But can you create a rock that is so heavy, even you cannot lift it?
yo let me post hilarious molleisms in peace eh |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
737
|
Posted - 2012.05.16 00:43:00 -
[116] - Quote
highonpop wrote:Actually, I was never in providence, if you look at this toon's history. I am a remnant of BLM leaving Cloud Ring.
I understand and support your position though. People act like goons are the devil solely on the information they get fed on EN24 (an anti-CFC propaganda site if I ever saw one) and the EVE-O forums (filled with highsecers mad that they play a sandbox and arent truly safe in highsec)
also, before BoB was Goons too. Goons - BoB -> NC -> Goons again.. Any moment now, someone will "figure out" that SirMolle actually.... yes, he was a goon.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Jonah Gravenstein
293
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Posted - 2012.05.16 01:58:00 -
[117] - Quote
If you're not a Goon you're an alt of a Goon, is that the way it works this month? or are we still on NPC alts being alts of alts of Goons?
They never do things by half though, when they fail they usually do so in a manner to cause much hilarity, when they back or organise events, much hilarity is had by the willing participants, not so much the unwilling. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Boomhaur
58
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Posted - 2012.05.16 02:36:00 -
[118] - Quote
MadMuppet wrote: attack a group, like the Goons, would be if there was a magic mid-slot wand-like device that converted the enemy ships in to asteroids so they could be mined.
No that is how the Great Chribba defeats his enemies in this glorious Veldnaught followed by the fleet of mining Titans, and a billion angry miners under his command in Hulk formation. Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |
Arcticblue2
Nordic Freelancers inc
16
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Posted - 2012.05.16 06:18:00 -
[119] - Quote
Guys I think you misunderstand abit here, I'm not against Goons or PvP at all... infact they are good for my business ... without PvP I would not make money right ? so I'm all for PvP, I am just against low-sec and 0.0 people bashing us who does not move into 0.0 and is happy being in high-sec. Those who want to change my gameplay because they don't like it ...
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Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
240
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Posted - 2012.05.16 06:24:00 -
[120] - Quote
I AGREE!
Goons are the bane of EvE! They are evil, nasty, sub-human, griefers. They make my life and the life of everyone in EVE a living hell! They have no morals or common decency; they are greedy and they are bending CCP to their unbearable will. Their leader is an evil tyrant who is a scourge upon this game! In real life they are all evil evil nasty people and deserve to be punished for their numerous evil crimes.
And er........I think I saw one once. UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch |
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Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2012.05.16 06:42:00 -
[121] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:If you're not a Goon you're an alt of a Goon, is that the way it works this month? or are we still on NPC alts being alts of alts of Goons? We are all Goon alts, didn't you know that? |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
139
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Posted - 2012.05.16 07:02:00 -
[122] - Quote
Dawn Flare wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:If you're not a Goon you're an alt of a Goon, is that the way it works this month? or are we still on NPC alts being alts of alts of Goons? We are all Goon alts, didn't you know that?
According to the sacred book of Lowtax- on the 7th day, God created goons. . |
Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2012.05.16 08:11:00 -
[123] - Quote
Kasdeya Vetis wrote:Several years back, I had a federal government job in the States. I worked on a naval weapons station that had an alligator problem- they would occasionally wander out of the swamp and into the housing areas. Most weren't an issue, but there was one that was absolutely huge, and terrified everyone, even though he was as peaceful as could be. Seriously, the worst thing he ever did was block traffic for two hours because he got his head stuck under a guardrail trying to cross the road.
Anyhow, the station staff enlist some animal control and wildlife specialist folks to move this particular gator to the far side of the weapons station, because he's so scary lookin. So they track him tranq him, and get rid of him. What they didn't understand is that gator populations always have a top dog. He grows bigger than the rest because he consumes more- not because he's an abnormal occurrence. Sure enough, a year later, there's another gator the size of the old one, only this one is violent in the housing areas and starts taking out pets. They had to kill that one.
And they're still having to kill gators there, one at a time, as they get big enough to be truly dangerous to anyone but idiots. If they'd understood the dynamics of the thing they were messing with, they might have realized there wasn't much they could do about there always being one gator bigger than the others out there in the swamp. And they might have left it alone, realizing that the big gator they had to deal with right then wasn't nearly as bad as it could be.
Story time over- this post is completely unrelated to the thread.
Good post in a terrible thread. It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |
Plentath
Sudden Buggery
10
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Posted - 2012.05.16 10:10:00 -
[124] - Quote
OP should google "REDSwarm" |
Silence iKillYouu
KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance
166
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Posted - 2012.05.16 10:46:00 -
[125] - Quote
Edington Trent wrote:Highsec pilots measure their success in isk/hr.
Lowsec pilots measure their success in kills/hr
Nullsec pilots measure their success in blobs/hr
Goons measure their success in tears/hr
(and wormhole pilots watch it all on the forums and laugh)
http://fw-frontline.blogspot.com/ |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2012.05.16 10:53:00 -
[126] - Quote
Goons are the plague and they will disapear soon enough. Every empire colapses one day or the other. There are no exceptions to this rule. The day will come when they will have to conveniently forget to pay soverenghty fees (while heavelly under attack and losing sov) and disband like before All it takes is enough people hating them and someone to rally them and they will fall. Its karma. In eve, you pay sooner or later for your actions. |
Gealbhan
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
140
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Posted - 2012.05.16 10:54:00 -
[127] - Quote
Tell me, OP, why I should risk my neck for you? The Goons don't bother me and I don't bother them - why change the staus quo? Give me a reason to join your cause. Simply stating "to take down the Goons" is not enough.
Say on the extreme unlikeliness that you do succeed in taking out the Goons, what then? Who will fill the power vacuum? Someone probably 10 times worse.
No, The Goons are a part of the EvE eco system and unless they self destruct from within they'll be here until hell freezes over.
Besides - They Keep Things Interesting. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
362
|
Posted - 2012.05.16 10:55:00 -
[128] - Quote
no please bring the hisec blob to deklein eh |
Draydin Warsong
Jetcan Reclaimation Service
1
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Posted - 2012.05.16 11:11:00 -
[129] - Quote
Kasdeya Vetis wrote:Several years back, I had a federal government job in the States. I worked on a naval weapons station that had an alligator problem- they would occasionally wander out of the swamp and into the housing areas. Most weren't an issue, but there was one that was absolutely huge, and terrified everyone, even though he was as peaceful as could be. Seriously, the worst thing he ever did was block traffic for two hours because he got his head stuck under a guardrail trying to cross the road.
Anyhow, the station staff enlist some animal control and wildlife specialist folks to move this particular gator to the far side of the weapons station, because he's so scary lookin. So they track him tranq him, and get rid of him. What they didn't understand is that gator populations always have a top dog. He grows bigger than the rest because he consumes more- not because he's an abnormal occurrence. Sure enough, a year later, there's another gator the size of the old one, only this one is violent in the housing areas and starts taking out pets. They had to kill that one.
And they're still having to kill gators there, one at a time, as they get big enough to be truly dangerous to anyone but idiots. If they'd understood the dynamics of the thing they were messing with, they might have realized there wasn't much they could do about there always being one gator bigger than the others out there in the swamp. And they might have left it alone, realizing that the big gator they had to deal with right then wasn't nearly as bad as it could be.
Story time over- this post is completely unrelated to the thread.
Your story assumes that everyone wants to see the goons gone. I myself think they have entertainment value. Its not about capturing and getting rid of the alligator...its about jumping on its back and dry humping it whilst screaming "SQUEAL PIGGY".
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Aldeskwatso
New Horizon Enterprises Beyond All Bounds
17
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Posted - 2012.05.16 12:12:00 -
[130] - Quote
Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani.
What wil this accomplish?
A lot of fun. Thats for sure. But another "Goon" like enclave will inevitably rise from the ashes.
The result of uniting New Eden against Goons 'n "Friends" propperly will likely result in them taking a beating they wont recover from for a long time. This creates a big power gap for other dominant and able alliances to jump into resulting in the fall of the recent union of New Eden. Chaos ensues giving Goons a chance to re-organise and salvage (the critical point to destroy them completely or not) what is left to save as much face a possible. A few other alliances have filled the gap left behind by the goons and things will start to stabalise. But due to the recent chaos new enemies have been created and things will continue as they did once stuff has settled down enough.
Personally I'm neutral towards goons. Don't particularly like them nor hate them. Every once in a while a "Goon or friend" drops by and makes an attempt to validate it's excistance by some manner they prefer. It brings a fine addition to the game and results in them playing their part. A part easily and eagerly replaced by another now and as a result of a total purge of goons.
But even if no union of New Eden gets of the ground and does it's thing. Events resulting in the goons demise have been set in motion that can't be undone. But the instument that will bring them down is not clear yet. A union of New Eden is a possibility or some means of an internal deorganisation and destabelisation or another single power block crushes them or a combination of it all.
Fact is. Nothing lasts forever. There's to much to gain from crushing the goons and ultimatly someone will take the gain from it. Greed is a powerfull thing.
To who ever pulls it off. Salut. When I point to the moon don't stare a my finger! |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
742
|
Posted - 2012.05.16 12:14:00 -
[131] - Quote
Aldeskwatso wrote:Fact is. Nothing lasts forever. If only people mining in hulks in highsec acknowledged this. Good stuff ~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.16 12:21:00 -
[132] - Quote
Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani.
You need to set reimbursement programs no one in whatever coalition you can set will accept. Encourage people to pvp is at first telling them "hey go get killed and win isk".
Why? -because most of those only need players to tax and get out of them as much isk as they can, because win eve for them it's not a matter of joy and fun playing together with people from different countries and not English native mandatory to rule over large portions of space.
Their fun and misconception of win at Eve point of view is to get as much isk and pimp stuff for themselves and their acolytes/alts, socialise and play with hundreds of other people in a good mood even when you loose is not mandatory.
Good luck with that to do something.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
742
|
Posted - 2012.05.16 12:28:00 -
[133] - Quote
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:You need to set reimbursement programs no one in whatever coalition you can set will accept. Encourage people to pvp is at first telling them "hey go get killed and win isk". Actually, for those t=who flip their history books -
Goons didn't have reimbursement when we started fighting BoB. Apparently newbies would use Ospreys to mine for their next ship (or the ship after that).
Now if that works for highsec people, I don't know. After a while you appreciate (get it~~) simply piling on your isk or whatever. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.05.16 12:47:00 -
[134] - Quote
Aldeskwatso wrote:Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani. What wil this accomplish? A lot of fun. Thats for sure. But another "Goon" like enclave will inevitably rise from the ashes. The result of uniting New Eden against Goons 'n "Friends" propperly will likely result in them taking a beating they wont recover from for a long time. This creates a big power gap for other dominant and able alliances to jump into resulting in the fall of the recent union of New Eden. Chaos ensues giving Goons a chance to re-organise and salvage (the critical point to destroy them completely or not) what is left to save as much face a possible. A few other alliances have filled the gap left behind by the goons and things will start to stabalise. But due to the recent chaos new enemies have been created and things will continue as they did once stuff has settled down enough. Personally I'm neutral towards goons. Don't particularly like them nor hate them. Every once in a while a "Goon or friend" drops by and makes an attempt to validate it's excistance by some manner they prefer. It brings a fine addition to the game and results in them playing their part. A part easily and eagerly replaced by another now and as a result of a total purge of goons. But even if no union of New Eden gets of the ground and does it's thing. Events resulting in the goons demise have been set in motion that can't be undone. But the instument that will bring them down is not clear yet. A union of New Eden is a possibility or some means of an internal deorganisation and destabelisation or another single power block crushes them or a combination of it all. Fact is. Nothing lasts forever. There's to much to gain from crushing the goons and ultimatly someone will take the gain from it. Greed is a powerfull thing. To who ever pulls it off. Salut.
Although this is right in front of my eyeballs, I still have a hard time believe someone just wrote a post this long about some totally unrealistic armchair general fantasy theory of the downfall of the CFC.
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:You need to set reimbursement programs no one in whatever coalition you can set will accept. Encourage people to pvp is at first telling them "hey go get killed and win isk".
The amount of fraudulent reimbursements that would happen in some mish mash coalition that provided reimbursement is enough to make my mouth water. |
Jonah Gravenstein
293
|
Posted - 2012.05.16 12:47:00 -
[135] - Quote
No More Heroes wrote:Dawn Flare wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:If you're not a Goon you're an alt of a Goon, is that the way it works this month? or are we still on NPC alts being alts of alts of Goons? We are all Goon alts, didn't you know that? According to the gospel of Lowtax- on the 7th day, God created goons.
Bugger I just can't keep up with who's who on the ever changing front lines of forum warfare, I'm now going to have to check my alts to make sure that they're all somehow related to Goons even if they are in an NPC corp. When do we all become CCP alts again? or is the next tinfoil of the month that we're all just alts of people that play that abysmal thing called STO?
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Aldeskwatso
New Horizon Enterprises Beyond All Bounds
18
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Posted - 2012.05.16 14:06:00 -
[136] - Quote
Verte Sinkon wrote: Although this is right in front of my eyeballs, I still have a hard time believe someone just wrote a post this long about some totally unrealistic armchair general fantasy theory of the downfall of the CFC.
Are you really that na+»f to label it as fantasy that CFC is eventually doomed? You've had a good run and will probably last a bit longer. But you only need to look at history and follow the paralels. You're no different to anyone else at all. But hastly labelling notions of an inevitable downfall of CFC as fantasy proves my point. Your ranks are already disillusioned by a seemingly collective view you'll have uninterrupted and limitless longevity. If that grows that could be another contributing nail in your collective coffin.
Can't tell you I told you so. But I am telling you. Just can't tell you how When I point to the moon don't stare a my finger! |
Calfis
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
106
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Posted - 2012.05.16 14:22:00 -
[137] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Sorry I was quiet for the whole day, I was moving to a new place. I know you missed me. highonpop wrote:Yes, because Goons are the problem.
NOt the fact that most of you live in HS and base your assumption of nullsec corps on what you read on EN24 and the EVE-O forums.
/failthreadisfail I live in a WH. Thanks.
Then why are goons a problem for you?
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Selinate
871
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Posted - 2012.05.16 14:28:00 -
[138] - Quote
Calfis wrote:
Then why are goons a problem for you?
Because of this. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
494
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Posted - 2012.05.16 15:12:00 -
[139] - Quote
Some people take internet pixel spaceships a bit seriously, and the Goons don't really. They admit themselves that it won't last forever and nothing does. We could have had BoB being the major influence in the game instead, wonder what that would have been like. WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
bongsmoke
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.05.16 15:16:00 -
[140] - Quote
Only thing I would like to see happen to goons, the commander or Lt. Commander, steals everything and ruins the alliance.
Basically 1 person ****ing everyone. I don't have anything personal against goons, just because how big they are is why I would like to see this.
I couldn't imagine all the changes that would bring to the game. |
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Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
2
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Posted - 2012.05.17 13:47:00 -
[141] - Quote
bongsmoke wrote:Only thing I would like to see happen to goons, the commander or Lt. Commander, steals everything and ruins the alliance.
Basically 1 person ****ing everyone. I don't have anything personal against goons, just because how big they are is why I would like to see this.
I couldn't imagine all the changes that would bring to the game. Its already happened a few times. Look up Karttoon, for instance. He did exactly what you are saying, and then destroyed the old goonswarm, which is why they are now GoonSwarm Federation.
They even have a word for that, and its here. |
knobber Jobbler
165
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Posted - 2012.05.17 13:51:00 -
[142] - Quote
Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani.
Sounds awesome. Its exactly what all the Goon haters should be doing instead of whining. Good luck though, very few entities enter null sec without roots as one of the original corps/alliances. I think Test ironically were the last ones to do this. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
639
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Posted - 2012.05.17 14:26:00 -
[143] - Quote
Andrea Roche wrote:Goons are the plague and they will disapear soon enough. Every empire colapses one day or the other. There are no exceptions to this rule. The day will come when they will have to conveniently forget to pay soverenghty fees (while heavelly under attack and losing sov) and disband like before All it takes is enough people hating them and someone to rally them and they will fall. Its karma baby!
And then, once this happens a new bloc will emerge everyone else will hate them, demonise them, probably not actually know much about them other than what they learn from propoganda and word of mouth. They will be terribly evil in the eyes of the weak and probably eat babies and stuff in their spare time.
The needle returns to the start of the groove and we all sing along like before... Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Have No Name
Have No Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.04 17:26:00 -
[144] - Quote
knobber Jobbler wrote:Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani. Sounds awesome. Its exactly what all the Goon haters should be doing instead of whining. Good luck though, very few entities enter null sec without roots as one of the original corps/alliances. I think Test ironically were the last ones to do this.
The following would be a good start:
Have No Name wrote:Have them believe you want to join them. Let them see billions worth of assets. Have them bring jump freighters to pick up your stuff. Have Friends, hired Mercs, and former victims of their scams wait for the jump freighters to arrive. Blow up the freighters and every Goon you see... NOT EASY......... BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE.No doubt they have a lot of friends and members , but they sure as hell have a lot of ennemies considering their behaviour in the past years. Goonswarm = Goonscam Former Goonswarm Director gives an interview about account theft, scams, paypal theft and more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wktdmhn9VP0
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Jaison Savrin
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
4
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Posted - 2012.08.04 17:41:00 -
[145] - Quote
Hahaha, I don't care one way or the other on the Goon Issue but I would love to see High-Sec rise up and try to stop them. It would surely be worth the show.
Seriously.
Do it.
For the laughs.
If by some miracle you win.
Medals for everyone! |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
145
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Posted - 2012.08.04 17:45:00 -
[146] - Quote
Dang NECROMANCERS! Reviving long dead threads, that were best left buried. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
502
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Posted - 2012.08.04 17:49:00 -
[147] - Quote
Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani.
yes lets do what this nc. guy says so he can keep all the tech... Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.08.04 17:57:00 -
[148] - Quote
Without Goons, whos scams and exploits will we laugh at? ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Suvari Khashour
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:04:00 -
[149] - Quote
it'll never happen, getting rid of the goons, well you'd have to do something really drastic like, turning miners ships into mining battleships, and stuff like that, i mean, you'd even have to beef up the sentry guns and stuff, and and make can flippers go global.. like that would ever happen.. .. oh wait.. |
Hiyora Akachi
Bling Ring Tax Evaders
63
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:04:00 -
[150] - Quote
But this would require us to do work...and stuff....can we just let them fill their Tear Vats and troll around Null? |
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Holka Pracovita
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:25:00 -
[151] - Quote
In all history of mankind EVERY SINGLE empire eventually suffered defeat, no matter its size, power or determination.
Besides, the Goons are not even a decentempire. Theyre just a big group of nerds playing insignificant little on-line video game - a video game that has no endgame, a video game in which they have so many resources they dont even care what happens and they grow increasingly bored. And boredom leads to fails.
Eventually, inner problems will arise and they will destroy themselves from the inside or they will start influecing the game so much that CCP income gets affected and will be hit by the authorities.
For now, theyre the supreme force in EVE - anyone committed, simple-minded and nerdy enough can join them, or you can easily avoid them. Or you can just laugh at them for them thinking they have succeeded in lives by being uberleet tough guys in a video game. I prefer the latter. |
Garreth Vlox
Sons Of 0din Dark Therapy
37
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:27:00 -
[152] - Quote
Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Thats been done and failed. |
baltec1
Bat Country
1794
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:29:00 -
[153] - Quote
Garreth Vlox wrote:Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Thats been done and failed.
Worth another try. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
502
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:33:00 -
[154] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Garreth Vlox wrote:Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Thats been done and failed. Worth another try.
try not...
do or do not...
there is not try. Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
386
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:38:00 -
[155] - Quote
Does anyone in hi-sec actually give a damn about the goons and 0.0 political antics in general?
You want fries with that? |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
502
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:39:00 -
[156] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Does anyone in hi-sec actually give a damn about the goons and 0.0 political antics in general?
tbh people stopped carring about 0.0 politics when bob died...
Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Garreth Vlox
Sons Of 0din Dark Therapy
37
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:48:00 -
[157] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Does anyone in hi-sec actually give a damn about the goons and 0.0 political antics in general?
tbh HIGHSEC people stopped carring about 0.0 politics when bob died...
fixed it for you. |
Sophia Trinidad
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:53:00 -
[158] - Quote
Me likey the Goons.
On a serious note, imagine how awesome it is game-wise to be a part of the Goon high command and have 5000 followers do whatever you want? Go buy a few hundred Hulks and then start hulkageddon. Want more money? Setup hulk manufacturing and then extend hulkageddon permanently. Need some moons for materials, send in the 5000 followers to take it. You can say what you want about the followers but the guys pulling the strings are making some awesome bank and have an incredible amount of power in the game. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
502
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:55:00 -
[159] - Quote
Garreth Vlox wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Does anyone in hi-sec actually give a damn about the goons and 0.0 political antics in general?
tbh HIGHSEC people stopped carring about 0.0 politics when bob died... fixed it for you.
someone should fix you... and yes i mean snip snip...
Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Have No Name
Have No Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:58:00 -
[160] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:baltec1 wrote:Garreth Vlox wrote:Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Thats been done and failed. Worth another try. try not... do or do not... there is not try.
I like the motivation guys over 15 posts in 10 minutes. Right on mates
GO OUT THERE AND FEED ON GOONS, MY CHILDREN OF THE NIGHT Goonswarm = Goonscam Former Goonswarm Director gives an interview about account theft, scams, paypal theft and more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wktdmhn9VP0
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Krissada
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
168
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:59:00 -
[161] - Quote
Tribe cannot allowed this to stand. Sorry.
Delete OP! |
Have No Name
Have No Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.04 19:26:00 -
[162] - Quote
Krissada wrote:Tribe cannot allowed this to stand. Sorry. Delete OP!
So people decide to stand up do something against their crimes and you simply ask for the OP to be deleted?
Sorry Lady/Sir people have a right to defend themselves. Goonswarm = Goonscam Former Goonswarm Director gives an interview about account theft, scams, paypal theft and more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wktdmhn9VP0
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baltec1
Bat Country
1794
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Posted - 2012.08.04 19:31:00 -
[163] - Quote
Have No Name wrote:
I like the motivation guys over 15 posts in 10 minutes. Right on mates
GO OUT THERE AND FEED ON GOONS, MY CHILDREN OF THE NIGHT
Do I tell him now or after I loot the war chest? |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1788
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Posted - 2012.08.04 19:37:00 -
[164] - Quote
Selinate wrote: Want goons gone?
No.
They are easy to use and provide opponents to a game otherwise dead and stagnant.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |
Have No Name
Have No Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.04 19:45:00 -
[165] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Have No Name wrote:
I like the motivation guys over 15 posts in 10 minutes. Right on mates
GO OUT THERE AND FEED ON GOONS, MY CHILDREN OF THE NIGHT
Do I tell him now or after I loot the war chest?
Tell who?
And why tell "him", can't he read?
Goonswarm = Goonscam Former Goonswarm Director gives an interview about account theft, scams, paypal theft and more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wktdmhn9VP0
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Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
52
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Posted - 2012.08.04 20:06:00 -
[166] - Quote
CFC will all quit once they realize "Hot Drop Online" isn't nearly as fun as MWO. They'll leave their bots to RMT until the game dies, but I'd say its 6 months tops till they failscade and slip back into irrelevance... |
Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
622
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:27:00 -
[167] - Quote
Anyone who thinks his empire will last forever should, you know, read a history book. Bring your possibles. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2236
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:30:00 -
[168] - Quote
Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:Anyone who thinks his empire will last forever should, you know, read a history book.
Pay particular attention to Chinese history. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1576
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:30:00 -
[169] - Quote
Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:Anyone who thinks his empire will last forever should, you know, read a history book.
yeah the eve servers have to go down eventually EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:43:00 -
[170] - Quote
Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani.
O Great Herder of Cats, tell us more! Lead us to the Promised Land!
I can spare, like, 100 isk for the catnip. A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
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Cadfael Maelgwyn
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:46:00 -
[171] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:Anyone who thinks his empire will last forever should, you know, read a history book. Pay particular attention to Chinese history. So who are the space Mongols? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1238
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:47:00 -
[172] - Quote
Sarik Olecar wrote:CFC will all quit once they realize "Hot Drop Online" isn't nearly as fun as MWO. They'll leave their bots to RMT until the game dies, but I'd say its 6 months tops till they failscade and slip back into irrelevance... Is MWO that great, I heard tanks was great but now MWO is great.
What's the thing that'll be great after this? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
132
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Posted - 2012.08.05 03:12:00 -
[173] - Quote
Goons say that hi seccers will not attack them because of lack of isk/hr.
Here is a proposal how to get the hisec swarm to you:
Put bounties on yourselves and position yourselves on gates in increasingly difficult gangs (and higher bounties) in systems starting from EC and finishing in VFK with a possible escalation at the end. Also bonus "rooms" in side systems along the way. |
Aprudena Gist
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.08.05 03:55:00 -
[174] - Quote
Sarik Olecar wrote:CFC will all quit once they realize "Hot Drop Online" isn't nearly as fun as MWO. They'll leave their bots to RMT until the game dies, but I'd say its 6 months tops till they failscade and slip back into irrelevance... Hot Drops are the only fun part of the game ever so no. |
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
402
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Posted - 2012.08.05 04:59:00 -
[175] - Quote
According to dotlan, goons have 8977 pilots. Triple that if you count alts not in the alliance. Then add in all the goon friends and pets. I seriously doubt you could match their numbers even if you round up every empire carebear available.
The only thing that could destroy the goon's empire would be a civil war between themselves. Short of that, not gonna happen. "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor
29
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Posted - 2012.08.05 05:54:00 -
[176] - Quote
Cutter Isaacson wrote:I don't even.....what is this? I had a discussion very similar to this one only last night, my opinion that EVE is better WITH Goons, than without, was not well received by some.
I agree games like EVE needs its villains and unless another villain comes along that can push the goons off the hill the others will have to grin and bear it. |
Cyprus Black
Perkone Caldari State
305
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Posted - 2012.08.05 05:55:00 -
[177] - Quote
Sometimes I think the Goons use alts to draw attention to themselves. Nobody really cares. Hijinks of a highsec pirate http://cyprusblack.blogspot.com/ |
Have No Name
Have No Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.05 06:21:00 -
[178] - Quote
Shameless Avenger wrote:According to dotlan, goons have 8977 pilots. Triple that if you count alts not in the alliance. Then add in all the goon friends and pets. I seriously doubt you could match their numbers even if you round up every empire carebear available. The only thing that could destroy the goon's empire would be a civil war between themselves. Short of that, not gonna happen.
No need for numbers.
The civil war you mentioned has started long ago.
Just be patient. Goonswarm = Goonscam Former Goonswarm Director gives an interview about account theft, scams, paypal theft and more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wktdmhn9VP0
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1581
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Posted - 2012.08.05 06:25:00 -
[179] - Quote
Have No Name wrote:Shameless Avenger wrote:According to dotlan, goons have 8977 pilots. Triple that if you count alts not in the alliance. Then add in all the goon friends and pets. I seriously doubt you could match their numbers even if you round up every empire carebear available. The only thing that could destroy the goon's empire would be a civil war between themselves. Short of that, not gonna happen. No need for numbers. The civil war you mentioned has started long ago. Just be patient.
Sigma v. Theta isn't going to tear us at our seams really EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |
Caucus Prime
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.08.05 06:32:00 -
[180] - Quote
Law 6
Court Attention at all Cost
Everything is judged by its appearance; what is unseen counts for nothing. Never let yourself get lost in the crowd, then, or buried in oblivion. Stand out. Be conspicuous, at all cost. Make yourself a magnet of attention by appearing larger, more colorful, more mysterious, than the bland and timid masses.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1239
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Posted - 2012.08.05 06:53:00 -
[181] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:Have No Name wrote:Shameless Avenger wrote:According to dotlan, goons have 8977 pilots. Triple that if you count alts not in the alliance. Then add in all the goon friends and pets. I seriously doubt you could match their numbers even if you round up every empire carebear available. The only thing that could destroy the goon's empire would be a civil war between themselves. Short of that, not gonna happen. No need for numbers. The civil war you mentioned has started long ago. Just be patient. Sigma vs. Theta isn't going to tear us at our seams really I thought he meant ... actually wait, I got nothing.
Aren't there any other groups he could be referring to? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
420
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Posted - 2012.08.05 07:27:00 -
[182] - Quote
Frankly over the year I have noticed the number of threads and chat about Goons decreasing.
Give it long enough and CCP could just remove the gates to there Null and no one would really care what happens to Goonswarm.
Even the war they had was a joke. That was not there fault but it failed to make much of a dent into the forums and local chats. There where a few news articles and a couple of posts but thats about it.
Frankly if people didn't post things like this they would almost disappear. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Have No Name
Have No Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.05 07:49:00 -
[183] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:Have No Name wrote:Shameless Avenger wrote:According to dotlan, goons have 8977 pilots. Triple that if you count alts not in the alliance. Then add in all the goon friends and pets. I seriously doubt you could match their numbers even if you round up every empire carebear available. The only thing that could destroy the goon's empire would be a civil war between themselves. Short of that, not gonna happen. No need for numbers. The civil war you mentioned has started long ago. Just be patient. Sigma vs. Theta isn't going to tear us at our seams really
Thats not what i'm talking about Goonswarm = Goonscam Former Goonswarm Director gives an interview about account theft, scams, paypal theft and more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wktdmhn9VP0
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Tron X16
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
1
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Posted - 2012.08.05 08:25:00 -
[184] - Quote
Its the Eve way they will fall its just a matter of time. |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.08.05 09:25:00 -
[185] - Quote
Have No Name wrote: No need for numbers.
The civil war you mentioned has started long ago.
Just be patient.
It must be exceedingly civil because I had not even noticed. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1584
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Posted - 2012.08.05 09:28:00 -
[186] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:Frankly over the year I have noticed the number of threads and chat about Goons decreasing.
Give it long enough and CCP could just remove the gates to there Null and no one would really care what happens to Goonswarm.
Even the war they had was a joke. That was not there fault but it failed to make much of a dent into the forums and local chats. There where a few news articles and a couple of posts but thats about it.
Frankly if people didn't post things like this they would almost disappear.
quoting "goonswarm is irrelevant" post #181995 EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |
Have No Name
Have No Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.05 09:54:00 -
[187] - Quote
Verte Sinkon wrote:Have No Name wrote: No need for numbers.
The civil war you mentioned has started long ago.
Just be patient.
It must be exceedingly civil because I had not even noticed.
Good Goonswarm = Goonscam Former Goonswarm Director gives an interview about account theft, scams, paypal theft and more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wktdmhn9VP0
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Radius Prime
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.05 10:53:00 -
[188] - Quote
What happens when your Russian-HiSec alliance breaks up after VD. Have the Russians own NullSec? Sure we will all benefit from their giving personalities at that point. A Russian does not adapt, you adapt to him. Leave the poor goons alone. At least they guard the balance in our little universe.
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Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
161
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Posted - 2012.08.05 11:11:00 -
[189] - Quote
Selinate wrote:We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.
Down with the Mittani.
*puts on his helmet (well bucket...) and grabs his loudspeaker (the English part):
This day is called the Feast of Crispian. He that outlives this day and comes safe home Will stand a-tiptoe when this day is named And rouse him at the name of Crispian. He that shall see this day and live t' old age Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours And say, "Tomorrow is Saint Crispian." Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars And say, "These wounds I had on Crispin's day." Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember, with advantages What feats he did that day. Then shall our names, Familiar in his mouth as household words GÇö Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter, Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester GÇö Be in their flowing cups freshly remembered. This story shall the good man teach his son, And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by From this day to the ending of the world, But we in it shall be remembered, We few, we happy few, we band of brothers. For he today that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition. And gentlemen in England now abed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's Day.!!!!
*puts down loudspeaker and goes home*
To mine or not to mine... that is the quesiton. |
casini
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.08.05 11:22:00 -
[190] - Quote
a goonageddon...i like...i like a lot!! |
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2237
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Posted - 2012.08.05 12:46:00 -
[191] - Quote
Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:Anyone who thinks his empire will last forever should, you know, read a history book. Pay particular attention to Chinese history. So who are the space Mongols?
You should note that China remained an independent nation after the Mongol conquest. All that changed was who was in charge. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
423
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Posted - 2012.08.05 13:38:00 -
[192] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Frankly over the year I have noticed the number of threads and chat about Goons decreasing.
Give it long enough and CCP could just remove the gates to there Null and no one would really care what happens to Goonswarm.
Even the war they had was a joke. That was not there fault but it failed to make much of a dent into the forums and local chats. There where a few news articles and a couple of posts but thats about it.
Frankly if people didn't post things like this they would almost disappear. quoting "goonswarm is irrelevant" post #181995
You said it, not me.
ATM the only ones who care about Goonswarm are Goonswarm,
I think you might have gotten interest back if it had been a "Great War", instead all you got was a steam roll.
Edit: My apologies, I see you are going to try again with NCdot, hope that goes better for you (in a PR stand point) than the last skirmish? can't really call it a war when they mostly hid and ran away. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Irya Boone
Escadron leader La League des mondes libres
28
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Posted - 2012.08.05 14:02:00 -
[193] - Quote
Bring WAR to them Hang them by the balls or the CLi... if its a female clone
humm wait... I'm not on the Game of thrones online Forums ? .....
My bad! sorry please continue .. i'm out |
Have No Name
Have No Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.05 14:24:00 -
[194] - Quote
Radius Prime wrote:What happens when your Russian-HiSec alliance breaks up after VD. Have the Russians own NullSec? Sure we will all benefit from their giving personalities at that point. A Russian does not adapt, you adapt to him. Leave the poor goons alone. At least they guard the balance in our little universe
The only thing they guard is the balance of their wallets. Goonswarm = Goonscam Former Goonswarm Director gives an interview about account theft, scams, paypal theft and more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wktdmhn9VP0
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Zera Kerrigan
Dark Tempest Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2012.08.05 15:49:00 -
[195] - Quote
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:You know why that wont work? It requires effort.
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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
379
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Posted - 2012.08.05 15:51:00 -
[196] - Quote
I saw a Goon... once. If you need a friend call me @ (501) 444-CCNA |
Blastcaps Madullier
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ethereal Dawn
77
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Posted - 2012.08.05 15:55:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:You know why that wont work? It requires effort.
actually your wrong there, it requires TRUST something eve suffers a lack of due to meta gaming lol.
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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
380
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Posted - 2012.08.05 15:57:00 -
[198] - Quote
Blastcaps Madullier wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:You know why that wont work? It requires effort. actually your wrong there, it requires TRUST something eve suffers a lack of due to meta gaming lol.
I have an alt in your corp, how can you not trust me? If you need a friend call me @ (501) 444-CCNA |
Blastcaps Madullier
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ethereal Dawn
77
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Posted - 2012.08.05 15:57:00 -
[199] - Quote
Irya Boone wrote:Bring WAR to them Hang them by the balls or the CLi... if its a female clone
humm wait... I'm not on the Game of thrones online Forums ? .....
My bad! sorry please continue .. i'm out
"House Lannister always pays it's debts, for everyone else there's mastercard" |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
872
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Posted - 2012.08.05 15:59:00 -
[200] - Quote
The idea of pubbie filth doing anything that doesn't directly and immediately benefit their wallet is hilarious. The thought of even losing a T1 Frigate is enough to make the risk averse high-sec pubbie shrivel up in fear. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
380
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Posted - 2012.08.05 16:07:00 -
[201] - Quote
Tarsus Zateki wrote:The idea of pubbie filth doing anything that doesn't directly and immediately benefit their wallet is hilarious. The thought of even losing a T1 Frigate is enough to make the risk averse high-sec pubbie shrivel up in fear.
http://pubbies.com/ If you need a friend call me @ (501) 444-CCNA |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
872
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Posted - 2012.08.05 16:11:00 -
[202] - Quote
I wonder if they also complain to CCP that high-sec isn't a perfectly safe padded room. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
380
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Posted - 2012.08.05 16:13:00 -
[203] - Quote
Maybe, but more than likely they assist aspiring authors with publication. If you need a friend call me @ (501) 444-CCNA |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1239
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Posted - 2012.08.05 16:34:00 -
[204] - Quote
Tarsus Zateki wrote:Tom Gerard wrote:http://pubbies.com/ I wonder if they also complain to CCP that high-sec isn't a perfectly safe padded room. Padded room, like for crazy people?
Hmm... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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