oh man I love it when people bring the botting argument in favor of removing local

And anyway, local is what's causing AFK cloaking, so that's where the GÇ£fixGÇ¥ needs to happen. It doesn't have to be removed, as such GÇö it just have to stop providing instant and infallible intel to all and sundry. The best solution so far remains the idea that cloaking removes you from local, in both senses: you cannot be seen in the local user list, and you cannot see the local user list. If you want to do something non-AFK, you will have to expose yourself and/or spend a lot of time finding absolutely nothing.

Say what you will about AFK Cloaking but being 100% Safe in a cloaked ship is a boring mechanic.

Sub Warfare is 100 times more fun. ! mean the cloaking mechanic is so boring that people are literally leaving their computer screens rather playing which right their says it all.

CSM chairman and former CCP-dev Seleene explained on the CSM Townhall Meeting the reason why CCP isn't touching the cloaking mechanics.

Basically when somebody cloaks it makes him literally 'not be there' in the game. While that was an easy way back then to implement invisibility, it's now biting CCP in the arse, because it also makes it impossible to change things.

Many of the ideas to balance AFK-cloaking or even normal cloaking, would involving modules cycling, which would require completely rebuilding the cloaking mechanics. Something CCP currently doesn't have the resources for.

sometimes i need to go afk suddenly for real life stuff and if i cant do this then i dont play eve at all

and how long i go afk for is up to me

get rid of local so u dont have to see all these afk cloaking terrors

Generally, WHers act as if there is someone AFK cloaked in their system all the time, hence the fear of AFK cloakers is a psychological side-effect of local, not a mechanic to be changed.

The best solution so far remains the idea that cloaking removes you from local, in both senses: you cannot be seen in the local user list, and you cannot see the local user list. If you want to do something non-AFK, you will have to expose yourself and/or spend a lot of time finding absolutely nothing.

What you're suggesting here only serves to indicate whether a person is a threat, by their presence on local or not a threat, by their lack of presence on local.

Sub Warfare is 100 times more fun. ! mean the cloaking mechanic is so boring that people are literally leaving their computer screens rather playing which right their says it all.

wel the discution is years old and i'm 8 years old most in nullsec and i'm a damn good cov op pilot and they need to fix this afk cloacking s******.

if you are a miner and you have a nice system you always mine 1 afk cloacker can ruing your game , in inferno ccp claims to have a counterfit to every fit in game , wel here is some news they don't that afk cloacking is broken and gives alot of people alot of greef , here are some viable selutions that can solve this problem in the gamespirrit of eve .



sugestion 1

as the covop mod is active its a invisable bubble that cant get the gasses out and need to be vented every 10 min so it decloacks for a set timer say 30 sec , if the cloack button is not prest it stays uncloacked

suggestion 2 (my favorite)

create a ghosthunter specialized to hunt cloackies no offencive weapons filled to the eyeballs with electronica to spot them and decloack them prob verry fragile not cloackable basicly a flying coffin when the cloacky is not afk

suggestion 3 (also my fav )

we still have the deep space probes thea are basicly useless now , convert them to ghost hunter probes that can launched from a cov op or a specialized ship to reviel cloackies

What??? That doesn't even make sense... Again.

Sure it does. Subs being like Cloak Ships evading sub hunting parties like Destroyers Screens in WWII?

Also poeple are going AFK because their is no opposition to hunt them. They would stick around and evade the enemy if their was an enemy that could track them.

What part tripped you up?

AFK cloakers schould only be a problem to groups who cannot organize a defensive patrol.

Combat ships shouldn't worry, non combat ships can be escorted or watched over.

Instead of freezing, implement some rules on how to do anything you normally do under stealth contact.

This includes lighting a cynobeacon while still cloaked

This solution would make cloaks more fun... but still helps bots too much, imo.

Did they mention any technical difficulties with modifying local chat? I'm also of the opinion that cloaking is okay as-is, and local is what really needs to be fixed (for this and other reasons - in particular it's just bad form to have a key intel source be a side-effect of the chat implementation).

But there has been talking about modifying local for so long without anything happening, I wonder if they've painted themselves into a coding corner there as well.

Don't get me wrong, I like cloaking, I like ganking in WHs, I like breaking gate camps, but to be able to sit afk in someones system cloaked FOR DAYS with no repercussions is just unacceptable. Make cloakers susceptible to combat probes, or really, just do SOMETHING to limit the un-interactiveness of cloak, its a fail mechanic as is. Let the flames begin ^^