You whine about afk cloakers then you whine about afk Titans and then you will whine about pvp. Stop being a loser and start learning how to counter it using in game tools instead of pledging to nerf something that you impotent to counter.

Every time i see "Remove afk cloaking" thread i laugh. Another pledge for nerf. How many times in gaming history and in CCP history nerfing resulted in lost subscriptions. Nerfing something like cloaking even touching it will result in massive outrage.

You whine about afk cloakers then you whine about afk Titans and then you will whine about pvp. Stop being a loser and start learning how to counter it using in game tools instead of pledging to nerf something that you impotent to counter. There is already placed in game perfect tools for countering afk cloaking. If you cant do that may be High sec is your place or perhaps you fail as commander if you cant organize simple op to squeeze out afk cloakers.

Stop whining and start thinking.

there's these things called "cynos," maybe you've heard of them?

Close, but not quite. If you're an unknown in local, people assume you're a threat, regardless of whether you are one or notGǪ and thus we have the endless AFK cloaking whines. That's kind of my point: people assume a connection between the data and its meaning that isn't really there. Making the mechanics enforce a much sharper disconnect between the two might snap people out of that flawed perception.

Nah, it's a more of a double-blind system. The comms system can't pick you up; you can't use the comms system. It comes with both benefits and detriments. I think the original suggestion (now lost in the depth of the forum archives) also suggested a spool-up time on cynos to make them mutually detrimental as well, since that's the thing people are really worried about.

The importance really lies in hose five words: GÇ£if they're paying attentionGÇ¥. I have no problems with intel being used in various ways (and it being subverted) GÇö I have a problem with it being done automatically for you. At that point, it's no longer intel GÇö it's an automated alarm system. If that attacking cloaker fleet leaves a trail of bread-crumbs behind for the eagle-eyed to spot, then that's excellent! That means you both sides have to exercise some situational awareness and stealth to gain an advantage over the other side.

Don't get me wrong, I like cloaking, I like ganking in WHs, I like breaking gate camps, but to be able to sit afk in someones system cloaked FOR DAYS with no repercussions is just unacceptable. Make cloakers susceptible to combat probes, or really, just do SOMETHING to limit the un-interactiveness of cloak, its a fail mechanic as is. Let the flames begin ^^

Literally the only people who complain about afk cloakers are botters in 0.0

TL;DR

WHHHAAAAAAAAA WHAAAAAAAAAA A GUY THATS AFK AND CLOAKED IS STOPPING ME FROM RATTING.


hope that is close, didnt read OP.

As an addendum, we have now had the same reds in both our home system and our neighbor for over 4 days. This has completely shut down all ISK making ventures in 2/3 of the systems our corp currently has access to... and there is not a godd*mn thing I can do about it other than b*tch on the forums. Is this a healthy mechanic for the game? That 1 player has the ability to sit with complete immunity in system for DAYS, and if at any time I decide to say f*ck it, Im running sites/mining etc in that system anyway, he can drop a covert cyno (which I cant see, and also cant block with cyno jammers), and move an unlimited number of hostiles 10km from my position in an instant? I think not.

[quote=Eso Es]in my opinion null-sec should never feel "safe" for operations. Ever. .

Cloaking in general needs an entire revamp. All ships shouldn't have the same ability to cloak without some sort of trade off. Apparently the mechanic was just a hack from when they added cloaking after you jump through a gate. They just gave us a button to turn that on or off. That's why the module has no cycle time and doesn't use cap. This is also why you can't probe them. What module in the game has this freedom?

The afk cloaking thing is annoying because there isn't anything you can do about it. And it's not if they are afk or not...they are there and they could just as easily be waiting to hot drop you. Several people do this. So you can spend all day trying to bait them, or do nothing and go elsewhere. But besides that, there isn't anything to do. That's why people find it so annoying - they can't take care of the threat in their system.

Except for cloakers, right? They should be completely safe, and literally impossible to get to in space, making it a no-risk activity.

Good job on being consistent.

Except for cloakers, right? They should be completely safe, and literally impossible to get to in space, making it a no-risk activity.

Good job on being consistent.

Crying about cloaky ships is the exact same as crying about suicide ganking.

Don't get me wrong, I like cloaking, I like ganking in WHs, I like breaking gate camps, but to be able to sit afk in someones system cloaked FOR DAYS with no repercussions is just unacceptable. Make cloakers susceptible to combat probes, or really, just do SOMETHING to limit the un-interactiveness of cloak, its a fail mechanic as is. Let the flames begin ^^

If there is a afk cloaked you have pissed someone off. In that case **** them off more. Don't be a bear that doesn't want to fight.