Originally by: BlackDragonShadow

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Edited by: BlackDragonShadow on 04/07/2009 19:07:36


Happy 4th

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: Irida Mershkov

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Epic moderation. :/

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: Tai Black

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Didn't want that country anyway.

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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow

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Edited by: BlackDragonShadow on 04/07/2009 19:07:36


Happy 4th

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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow

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Happy 4th

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Originally by: TimMc

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4th of July is a holiday for Britain too. We celebrate getting rid of america.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow

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Happy 4th

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Hahahaha. Awesome pic.

To all you haters you are just jealeous that not only do our soldiers own like counterstrike players using wallhacks they are armed like them too.

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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow

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Happy 4th

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Hahahaha. Awesome pic.

To all you haters you are just jealeous that not only do our soldiers own like counterstrike players using wallhacks they are armed like them too.

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That would be why early on in Iraq you relied on the British Army's knowledge of counter-insurgency operations in Northern Ireland then, right?

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Originally by: TimMc

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4th of July is a holiday for Britain too. We celebrate getting rid of america.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow

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Happy 4th

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Hahahaha. Awesome pic.

To all you haters you are just jealeous that not only do our soldiers own like counterstrike players using wallhacks they are armed like them too.

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That would be why early on in Iraq you relied on the British Army's knowledge of counter-insurgency operations in Northern Ireland then, right?

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Well considering the length of time the insurgency lasted they better be the moast knowledgable in the world. Even a leet counterstike player will take advice when the op plan intelligence is sketchy at best.

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Originally by: Kirex

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This thread needs an American flag tbh.

US flag best flag.

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Originally by: Zeba

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This thread need moar jingoism!

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Originally by: Cyonidicus

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Originally by: Zeba

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This thread need moar jingoism!

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sorrywhat?

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Originally by: Kirex

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US flag best flag.

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yup

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Cyonidicus

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Originally by: Zeba

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This thread need moar jingoism!

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sorrywhat?

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Ah, I weep for the death of education.

or even a quick google search..

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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros

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Why yes, I would say that after fighting (the same amature homegrown) terrorists for 30 years the British Army *would* be rather good at it :)

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow

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Happy 4th

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Hahahaha. Awesome pic.

To all you haters you are just jealeous that not only do our soldiers own like counterstrike players using wallhacks they are armed like them too.


/me strolls outside to set off several hundred dollars worth of high explosive pyrotechnics.

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Originally by: CCP Fallout

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:facepalm:

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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You gotta be ****ing joking right??? Thanks for all the friendly fire ffs.

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Originally by: Vikarion

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You didn't want those colonies anyway, amiright?

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Originally by: Zeba

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Edited by: Zeba on 05/07/2009 03:50:17

Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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You gotta be ****ing joking right??? Thanks for all the friendly fire ffs.

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Yes because a few unfortunate instances of recent friendly fire faaaar outweigh the british militarys own vast unfortunate history of it all through its empire phase and beyond.

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/3774/

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Originally by: Zeba

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Edited by: Zeba on 05/07/2009 03:50:17

Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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You gotta be ****ing joking right??? Thanks for all the friendly fire ffs.

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Yes because a few unfortunate instances of recent friendly fire faaaar outweigh the british militarys own vast unfortunate history of it all through its empire phase and beyond.

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/3774/

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I can link historic facts as well Facts

There is no disputing the fact that in modern day warfare the americans continue to blow the shyte out of each other and allies more than any other allied army...FACT!!!

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Originally by: Zeba

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Ah yes and make sure to add that when it comes down to who can be the bigger redneck or in britains case chav you guys win hands down no contest. Also thanks for reminging the world at large why america was founded in the first place. It was to get away from all the centuries of emoroyalty and its attendant domestic lulz flying under the banner of the good ole union jack.

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Originally by: Zeba

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Ah yes and make sure to add that when it comes down to who can be the bigger redneck or in britains case chav you guys win hands down no contest. Also thanks for reminging the world at large why america was founded in the first place. It was to get away from all the centuries of emoroyalty and its attendant domestic lulz flying under the banner of the good ole union jack.

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What?

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Also whilst im at it, here's some reasons why Britain is better than America.

* We have our own place names, rather than stealing others and putting æNewÆ in front of them.

* Greenwich mean time, the basis of the worldÆs time, is situated in Britain.

* We have a better national anthem, America sing about a flag, we use the power of song to ensure the QueenÆs safety through divine intervention.

* We can pronounce simple words like æaluminiumÆ.

* We had a glorious empire, whereas America is still trying to acquire one.

* We have a cooler accent.

* Americans have their oh so old great monuments, most of which my house is older than.

* America as it is wouldnÆt even exist if it werenÆt for Britain.

* Britain has a æGreatÆ in front of itÆs name, America doesnÆt.

* The Full English Breakfast.

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Originally by: Kirex

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This thread needs an American flag tbh.

US flag best flag.

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Originally by: Xen Gin

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Indeed, upgrading an MS OS is like taking a **** into a cake mixture, then complaining that it doesn't taste good when it's all done.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Why would we want to past some hippy demonstrator making a point? I rather like this place and every single immigrant I have ever talked to shares the opinion. Besides it would be a great dishonour to the men who risked all to keep this flag flying high.

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Originally by: Kirex

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****ty flag

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Originally by: northwesten

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Also whilst im at it, here's some reasons why Britain is better than America.

* We have our own place names, rather than stealing others and putting æNewÆ in front of them.

* Greenwich mean time, the basis of the worldÆs time, is situated in Britain.

* We have a better national anthem, America sing about a flag, we use the power of song to ensure the QueenÆs safety through divine intervention.

* We can pronounce simple words like æaluminiumÆ.

* We had a glorious empire, whereas America is still trying to acquire one.

* We have a cooler accent.

* Americans have their oh so old great monuments, most of which my house is older than.

* America as it is wouldnÆt even exist if it werenÆt for Britain.

* Britain has a æGreatÆ in front of itÆs name, America doesnÆt.

* The Full English Breakfast.

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Also UK has pubs in walking distance in most places. US you have to drive to one!

Better cars

Better TV shows

NHS

oh and the Queen.

*waves British flag in US mahahaha*

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Originally by: Zeba

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Why would we want to past some hippy demonstrator making a point? I rather like this place and every single immigrant I have ever talked to shares the opinion. Besides it would be a great dishonour to the men who risked all to keep this flag flying high.

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Again.....What???

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Originally by: Zeba

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Why would we want to past some hippy demonstrator making a point? I rather like this place and every single immigrant I have ever talked to shares the opinion. Besides it would be a great dishonour to the men who risked all to keep this flag flying high.

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Again.....What???

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My bad for forgetting a comma between the words 'to' and 'past' in response to the previous posters opinion of flag burning. I guess I get lazy sometimes and forget not all the people who read have good comprehension skills and can mentally add in missing things like letters or connecting words and punctuation.

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Originally by: Gin G

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we are not fat and that includes the scots you people are fatter than the scottish

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Originally by: Gin G

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another great thing about the british

we are not fat and that includes the scots you people are fatter than the scottish

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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros

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Originally by: Gin G

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we are not fat and that includes the scots you people are fatter than the scottish

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If you had the great beer we brew up here and the lovely haggis we cook, you lot would be as fat as us too :)

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Originally by: Gin G

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time to go shoot each other again that is is you yanks can even shoot straight and/or even hit the brourd side of a barn door

didnt think so

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Originally by: Gin G

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another great thing about the british

we are not fat and that includes the scots you people are fatter than the scottish

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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* We can pronounce simple words like æaluminiumÆ.

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Originally by: Jaroslav Hasek

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I think its cute how the colonials don't have much history so make such a big deal out of the little they do have.

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Originally by: Jaroslav Hasek

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I think its cute how the colonials don't have much history so make such a big deal out of the little they do have.

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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* We can pronounce simple words like æaluminiumÆ.

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To be fair, it is predominately spelled "Aluminum" here.

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Originally by: Irida Mershkov

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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* We can pronounce simple words like æaluminiumÆ.

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To be fair, it is predominately spelled "Aluminum" here.

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Also to be fair, all because your american, it does'nt mean you can change the way a word is spelt, its ALUMINIUM, so if your going to use our language then use it correctly, thank you.

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Originally by: TimMc

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I do chuckle when they talk about an "ancient" house thats 100 years old, then here my mates house is 100 years old and the church down the road is 500 years old.

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Originally by: "sp3cial forc3s"

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Also to be fair, all because your american, it does'nt mean you can change the way a word is spelt, its ALUMINIUM, so if your going to use our language then use it correctly, thank you.

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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* We can pronounce simple words like æaluminiumÆ.

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To be fair, it is predominately spelled "Aluminum" here.

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Also to be fair, all because your american, it does'nt mean you can change the way a word is spelt, its ALUMINIUM, so if your going to use our language then use it correctly, thank you.

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Originally by: Zeba

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ITT: Brits on a chav rampage due to a massive inferiority complex. I mean really. All it takes to drive you guys into an emopatriotic rage is a harmless e-peen pic and a few mild comments.

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Originally by: Vikarion

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You didn't want those colonies anyway, amiright?

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Considering what shining examples of civilised human beings they are, i'd have to say "No, we didn't"

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Originally by: Vikarion

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You didn't want those colonies anyway, amiright?

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Considering what shining examples of civilised human beings they are, i'd have to say "No, we didn't"

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Considering the many examples of British "civility" that comes to mind during that era you really dont have any room to talk

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Originally by: Vikarion

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You didn't want those colonies anyway, amiright?

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Considering what shining examples of civilised human beings they are, i'd have to say "No, we didn't"

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Considering the many examples of British "civility" that comes to mind during that era you really dont have any room to talk

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Scottish personally, so i'm just biding my time till england flops Barbarians to the end.

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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Ah nevermind then


Personally I think any holiday (religous, national, birthday) that can be used to get family togeather is well worth it. Fourth of July just happens to have the added bonus of watching rich people blow thier money away by putting on a light show for everyone within sight while eating hamburgers and playing roman candle tag.

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Originally by: Kirex

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Originally by: Zeba

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ITT: Brits on a chav rampage due to a massive inferiority complex. I mean really. All it takes to drive you guys into an emopatriotic rage is a harmless e-peen pic and a few mild comments.

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They still think they're a superpower let alone a great empire.



Ooooohhhhh boy, I bet that one set them off. ;o

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Originally by: annoing

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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* We can pronounce simple words like æaluminiumÆ.

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To be fair, it is predominately spelled "Aluminum" here.

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Also to be fair, all because your american, it does'nt mean you can change the way a word is spelt, its ALUMINIUM, so if your going to use our language then use it correctly, thank you.

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Websters American Dictionary describes Aluminium as a British varient of Aluminum. The fact that the spelling 'Aluminium' preceeds Aluminum by 118 years obviously means nothing. Its only called Aluminum because of a spelling error by a man called Charles Hall who wanted to promote his own method of metal extraction. The word Aluminum was officially adopted in 1926 by the Americans -- the rest of the world calls it Aluminium though.
But I ask ... does it really matter?

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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Edited by: Mikazuki Wakahisa on 06/07/2009 00:40:01
Edited by: Mikazuki Wakahisa on 06/07/2009 00:39:18

Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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* We can pronounce simple words like æaluminiumÆ.

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To be fair, it is predominately spelled "Aluminum" here.

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Also to be fair, all because your american, it does'nt mean you can change the way a word is spelt, its ALUMINIUM, so if your going to use our language then use it correctly, thank you.

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If you're going to be using your own language I suggest you learn the difference between "you're" and "your"

Don't give me no bull**** about changing the spelling of the language when you have done it on numerous occasions throughout your history. Try reading Chaucer.

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Originally by: "sp3cial forc3s"

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Also to be fair, all because your american, it does'nt mean you can change the way a word is spelt, its ALUMINIUM, so if your going to use our language then use it correctly, thank you.

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Originally by: Grohalmatar

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The proposed changes in the game development forum are obviously a nerf to falcon pilots. However, what they really are is a nerf to falcon alts.

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Originally by: Azirapheal

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theres a petition knocking about to revoke the declaration of independance.

we will take you yanks seriously when your troops dont need our boys to rescue them :P

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Originally by: EpiC Fa1L

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Originally by: Azirapheal

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theres a petition knocking about to revoke the declaration of independance.

we will take you yanks seriously when your troops dont need our boys to rescue them :P

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There's a difference between "rescuing" and repaying a favor

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Originally by: "sp3cial forc3s"

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Also to be fair, all because your american, it does'nt mean you can change the way a word is spelt, its ALUMINIUM, so if your going to use our language then use it correctly, thank you.

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Jesus, does your whole "I HATE AMERICA" thing revolve around spelling and accent?

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Best Flag.

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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Edited by: Mikazuki Wakahisa on 06/07/2009 14:34:29
Edited by: Mikazuki Wakahisa on 06/07/2009 14:12:07
Edited by: Mikazuki Wakahisa on 06/07/2009 13:53:59

Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Originally by: "sp3cial forc3s"

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Also to be fair, all because your american, it does'nt mean you can change the way a word is spelt, its ALUMINIUM, so if your going to use our language then use it correctly, thank you.

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Jesus, does your whole "I HATE AMERICA" thing revolve around spelling and accent?

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YES. Also the fact most of you are thick as pig shyte.

THICK
EVEN THICKER
THICK PRESIDENT

enjoy.

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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seems they were either scottish or irish, hence the reason they are stupid as ****e.

Im English btw

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Britain (England) Vs America
A perfect example of why the world hates America

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Originally by: Gin G

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time to go shoot each other again that is is you yanks can even shoot straight and/or even hit the brourd side of a barn door

didnt think so

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Originally by: Sp3cial 3d

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* We have a cooler accent

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Originally by: Sp3cial 3d

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* Americans have their oh so old great monuments, most of which my house is older than.

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Originally by: Sp3cial 3d

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* America as it is wouldnÆt even exist if it werenÆt for Britain.

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Originally by: Sp3cial 3d

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* Britain has a æGreatÆ in front of itÆs name, America doesnÆt.

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Originally by: Gin G

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another great thing about the british

we are not fat and that includes the scots you people are fatter than the Scottish

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Originally by: Sp3cial Ed

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to be fair, all because your american, it does'nt mean you can change the way a word is spelt, its ALUMINIUM, so if your going to use our language then use it correctly, thank you.

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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ahh American's, always providing the lol's, you guys need to take yourselves less seriously, but then again you do suffer from a inferiority complex, you must all just hate our freedom!

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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ahh American's, always providing the lol's, you guys need to take yourselves less seriously, but then again you do suffer from a inferiority complex, you must all just hate our freedom!

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/fakebrit

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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ahh American's, always providing the lol's, you guys need to take yourselves less seriously, but then again you do suffer from a inferiority complex, you must all just hate our freedom!

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/fakebrit

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nope.

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Originally by: Luna Sistere

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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ahh American's, always providing the lol's, you guys need to take yourselves less seriously, but then again you do suffer from a inferiority complex, you must all just hate our freedom!

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/fakebrit

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nope.

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meh 2/10. Would be convincing if you at least had the ability to remove your government but your government removed that ability a while back.

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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1/10. try harder pls

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Originally by: Luna Sistere

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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1/10. try harder pls

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0/10 not even a deny or a link proving me wrong. Sad sad. Enjoying that camera facing right into your window now are ya?

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Edited by: Thorliaron on 06/07/2009 22:36:26

Originally by: Luna Sistere

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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1/10. try harder pls

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0/10 not even a deny or a link proving me wrong. Sad sad. Enjoying that camera facing right into your window now are ya?

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lol, no cctv's on my street. you are a terrible troll.

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Originally by: Luna Sistere

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Edited by: Thorliaron on 06/07/2009 22:36:26

Originally by: Luna Sistere

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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1/10. try harder pls

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0/10 not even a deny or a link proving me wrong. Sad sad. Enjoying that camera facing right into your window now are ya?

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lol, no cctv's on my street. you are a terrible troll.

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Still no refuting the claim. Thank you come again.

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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cant read. fair enough

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Originally by: Luna Sistere

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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cant read. fair enough

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It is so damn cute when people can't refute a claim. Please, carry on with your personal attacks.

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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and I still cant refute the claim that my government took away my right to overthrow them in case of corrupt!

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Originally by: Luna Sistere

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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and I still cant refute the claim that my government took away my right to overthrow them in case of corrupt!

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qft

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Originally by: Luna Sistere

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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and I still cant refute the claim that my government took away my right to overthrow them in case of corrupt!

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qft

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im not sure you really understand this, but pretty much every western country does not have the power to remove their govenment forcefully, not even American's, i know you like to think you do, but when push comes to shove you would not be able to. But i do have the ability to vote for a large number of different parties with varying views every 4 years for my govenment, where as you have, Republicans and Democratics, oh how democractic!.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Denial will get you nowhere mate. Its just a matter of time till they get to your street. That is if you actually lived in britain which you don't. Also do you know anybody past a terroist who has a gun collection? No? Pity that because if your government wanted they could just post soldiers at the street corners and turn off the lights and you wouldn't be able to do shiat about it. Now with guns being a national passtime here in the states it would be rather hard for our government to do that as a few hundred million angry armed citizens are a rather large thorn to deal with using an all volunteer military to police them.

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Originally by: Luna Sistere

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Edited by: Luna Sistere on 06/07/2009 23:00:41

Originally by: Thorliaron

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Originally by: Luna Sistere

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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and I still cant refute the claim that my government took away my right to overthrow them in case of corrupt!

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qft

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im not sure you really understand this, but pretty much every western country does not have the power to remove their govenment forcefully, not even American's, i know you like to think you do, but when push comes to shove you would not be able to. But i do have the ability to vote for a large number of different parties with varying views every 4 years for my govenment, where as you have, Republicans and Democratics, oh how democractic!.

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hmmm yeah I've heard about the wonderful things labour has done for you and yours.

Also:
People with guns are called citizens. People without guns are called subjects.

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Originally by: Luna Sistere

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Edited by: Luna Sistere on 06/07/2009 18:42:10

Originally by: Gin G

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time to go shoot each other again that is is you yanks can even shoot straight and/or even hit the brourd side of a barn door

didnt think so

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ThatÆs hilarious, especially coming from the people that **** their pants at the mere sight of a gun. IÆll be nice though and have the 10 yo down the street challenge you with his offhand to start.

Now if youÆre talking about your soldiers instead of your own self then no problem, weÆll wait for them to get off the beach.

Originally by: Sp3cial 3d

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* We have a cooler accent

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Cooler then what? Our Spanish accent? Our French accent? Our southern accent? East coast? West coast? Texan drawl? German? Russian? Oriental? Who are you comparing it with in a nation of every culture?
Although honestly what you call an accent we generally call incoherent mumbling. Whoa, I wonder if our elderly turn British after a while!

Originally by: Sp3cial 3d

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* Americans have their oh so old great monuments, most of which my house is older than.

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Thanks for letting us know your house is antiquated and not up to code. You must really party it up in there like its 1783.

Originally by: Sp3cial 3d

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* America as it is wouldnÆt even exist if it werenÆt for Britain.

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I believe you mean the US of A. The AmericaÆs would exist regardless as they are large continents in which the mayans, Aztec, IncanÆs, American Indians, and northern tribes had already settled on.
But yes, if it werenÆt for BritainÆs cascading failure to keep a handful of colonist at bay we wouldnÆt be as awesome as we are today, thank you for pointing that out.

Originally by: Sp3cial 3d

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* Britain has a æGreatÆ in front of itÆs name, America doesnÆt.

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Yeah thatÆs true, we donÆt have to improvise by putting the word in front of our name because every one already knows how great we are.

Originally by: Gin G

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another great thing about the british

we are not fat and that includes the scots you people are fatter than the Scottish

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Nope, youÆre fat AND ugly. UK ranks 2nd in ugliest women, second only to Afghanistan although I believe it is your bar goers who should be wearing the veil. Even on the most beautiful poll the UK ranks in 5th beaten by the US, Sweden, Brazil, and Italy.

Originally by: Sp3cial Ed

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to be fair, all because your american, it does'nt mean you can change the way a word is spelt, its ALUMINIUM, so if your going to use our language then use it correctly, thank you.

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Funny coming from a guy who canÆt even spell his name. And your language? Please, you are a combination of the Angles, Saxons, Franks, Jutes, and Frisians. Oh, so you know, those are western Germanic tribes but donÆt let a little thing like that stop you in your quest to talk about æyourÆ language. But of course as time moves on language evolves and naturally we in the US took a great language and moved it up the next link in the evolutionary chain. DonÆt worry, youÆll catch on eventually in say, 4 generations or so.

Also, has anyone noticed how Aluminum is spelt on firefox

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Originally by: Zeba

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You know now that I think about it Sp3cial 3d seems less like a snotty british chav put out over some light prodding and moar like an arrogant frenchie looking to stir up the pot. Too bad we can't peel back teh internats to have a looksee.

Also +1 to Luna even though you beat me out of a bunch of responces.

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Originally by: Zeba

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I know. I'm just baiting our fine friend. I have no problems with britain or its slightly over the top security measures as a 'v' like sort of government takover would be impractical even witout an armed population and frankly the us and un would make sure it didn't happen anyways. Britain as a bonafied police state helps no one on the international scale.

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Plenty of people in Britian own guns, shotguns etc for hunting, you just need a license for it, the idea of Britian having no citizen owned weapons is absurd

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Plenty of people in Britian own guns, shotguns etc for hunting, you just need a license for it, the idea of Britian having no citizen owned weapons is absurd

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Yes, because a few olde buggers with double barreled shotguns and some hunting rifles will be a deterent to g3 toting armoured troopers when your ultimate freedom is on the line.

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Edited by: Thorliaron on 06/07/2009 23:16:49

Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Plenty of people in Britian own guns, shotguns etc for hunting, you just need a license for it, the idea of Britian having no citizen owned weapons is absurd

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Yes, because a few olde buggers with double barreled shotguns and some hunting rifles will be a deterent to g3 toting armoured troopers when your ultimate freedom is on the line.

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When ultimate freedom is on the line **** goes out the window son, those chaps in afghanistan and iraq have shown the world how to deal with troops armed to the teeth and run a fairly sucessfull resistance.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Edited by: Thorliaron on 06/07/2009 23:16:49

Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Plenty of people in Britian own guns, shotguns etc for hunting, you just need a license for it, the idea of Britian having no citizen owned weapons is absurd

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Yes, because a few olde buggers with double barreled shotguns and some hunting rifles will be a deterent to g3 toting armoured troopers when your ultimate freedom is on the line.

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When ultimate freedom is on the line **** goes out the window son, those chaps in afghanistan and iraq have shown the world how to deal with troops armed to the teeth and run a fairly sucessfull resistance.

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And how are you supposed to get the guns? Its easy as can be to smuggle in shiploads of black market weapons in a desert country with no real borders. Downtown london with its CCTV network and grid like layout? ROFFLES! You guys are screwed.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Edited by: Thorliaron on 06/07/2009 23:16:49

Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Plenty of people in Britian own guns, shotguns etc for hunting, you just need a license for it, the idea of Britian having no citizen owned weapons is absurd

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Yes, because a few olde buggers with double barreled shotguns and some hunting rifles will be a deterent to g3 toting armoured troopers when your ultimate freedom is on the line.

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When ultimate freedom is on the line **** goes out the window son, those chaps in afghanistan and iraq have shown the world how to deal with troops armed to the teeth and run a fairly sucessfull resistance.

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And how are you supposed to get the guns? Its easy as can be to smuggle in shiploads of black market weapons in a desert country with no real borders. Downtown london with its CCTV network and grid like layout? ROFFLES! You guys are screwed.

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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Originally by: Luna Sistere

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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and I still cant refute the claim that my government took away my right to overthrow them in case of corrupt!

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qft

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im not sure you really understand this, but pretty much every western country does not have the power to remove their govenment forcefully, not even American's, i know you like to think you do, but when push comes to shove you would not be able to.

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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its a island? where money is be made from gun smuggling they shall be found

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Thorliaron

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its a island? where money is be made from gun smuggling they shall be found

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Even worse its an island. Exactly how are forein arms dealers supposed to get the good stuff to you in quantitys that will make a differece when the only points of entry will be heavily guarded ports and airports? Landing on a beach at night with the stuff? Riiiight. Any non registared ship will get intercepted either at the landing point or blown out of the water by an interceptor or warship. Remeber this is a police state scenario now with the attendant brutal security measure on all fronts. Jeeze I hope they won't have to rely on you for thier ultimate freedom.

However in the us since we already have a heavily armed population no smuggling will be reqired. The rebellion would be instant and long lasting.

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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In before the lock.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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In before the lock.

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Doubtful. Britain isn't exactly high on Icelands luvy duvy list atm.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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In before the lock.

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Doubtful. Britain isn't exactly high on Icelands luvy duvy list atm.

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Originally by: Captain Hudson

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Edited by: Captain Hudson on 06/07/2009 23:53:29

Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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In before the lock.

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Doubtful. Britain isn't exactly high on Icelands luvy duvy list atm.

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they are terrorists, they do take my money every month and give me a broken game in return, luckily this was seen by Mr.Brown and swift action was taken

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Originally by: Zeba

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Even worse its an island. Exactly how are forein arms dealers supposed to get the good stuff to you in quantitys that will make a differece when the only points of entry will be heavily guarded ports and airports? Landing on a beach at night with the stuff? Riiiight.

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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros

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Originally by: Zeba

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Even worse its an island. Exactly how are forein arms dealers supposed to get the good stuff to you in quantitys that will make a differece when the only points of entry will be heavily guarded ports and airports? Landing on a beach at night with the stuff? Riiiight.

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That's exactly how they would do it.

You really have no idea just how much coastline the UK has and just how impossible it would be to patrol it all, do you?

Add to that hundreds of uninhabited islands off the coast and there are plenty of opportunities for getting weapons in.

The IRA seemed to have little difficulty in getting weapons for 30 years.

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros

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Originally by: Zeba

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Even worse its an island. Exactly how are forein arms dealers supposed to get the good stuff to you in quantitys that will make a differece when the only points of entry will be heavily guarded ports and airports? Landing on a beach at night with the stuff? Riiiight.

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That's exactly how they would do it.

You really have no idea just how much coastline the UK has and just how impossible it would be to patrol it all, do you?

Add to that hundreds of uninhabited islands off the coast and there are plenty of opportunities for getting weapons in.

The IRA seemed to have little difficulty in getting weapons for 30 years.

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Easily done mate when you've been funded by the great old US of A throughout that time. Not only do America quite happily fund terrorists, train terrorists (Taliban) they also are the worlds biggest terrorists.

Can anybody name the largest single act of terrorism in history and tell me who it was carried out by?

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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros

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Originally by: Zeba

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Even worse its an island. Exactly how are forein arms dealers supposed to get the good stuff to you in quantitys that will make a differece when the only points of entry will be heavily guarded ports and airports? Landing on a beach at night with the stuff? Riiiight.

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That's exactly how they would do it.

You really have no idea just how much coastline the UK has and just how impossible it would be to patrol it all, do you?

Add to that hundreds of uninhabited islands off the coast and there are plenty of opportunities for getting weapons in.

The IRA seemed to have little difficulty in getting weapons for 30 years.

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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s

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Easily done mate when you've been funded by the great old US of A throughout that time. Not only do America quite happily fund terrorists, train terrorists (Taliban) they also are the worlds biggest terrorists.

Can anybody name the largest single act of terrorism in history and tell me who it was carried out by?

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Originally by: Zeba

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With the cold war detection infrastructure still moastly in place and a police state situation any ship that is not sqawking a fof transponder code will get intercepted and turned away or outright destroyed. They can do this now but as there isn't currently a police state in britain or the political will to use it you are correct atm.

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As far as the IRA can they manage to smuggle in a few crates of ammo and guns in the current or past political and security climate? Sure.

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In an ultimate freedom on the line situation would a few crates of ammo and guns make a difference? Hardly. You lost the fight on the day they turned out the lights as they set the troops up and no amount of smuggled arms will change that as it was a national mental state that allowed it to happen anyways.

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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros

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Originally by: Zeba

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With the cold war detection infrastructure still moastly in place and a police state situation any ship that is not sqawking a fof transponder code will get intercepted and turned away or outright destroyed. They can do this now but as there isn't currently a police state in britain or the political will to use it you are correct atm.

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Right, but the infrastructure was in place all through the Troubles and they were still able to acquire weapons.

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As far as the IRA can they manage to smuggle in a few crates of ammo and guns in the current or past political and security climate? Sure.

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It's a lot more than "ammo and guns". There were significant quantities of plastic explosives, rocket launchers, grenades, SAMs... everything you would need to launch a fairly successful guerilla campaign in the circumstances you describe.

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In an ultimate freedom on the line situation would a few crates of ammo and guns make a difference? Hardly. You lost the fight on the day they turned out the lights as they set the troops up and no amount of smuggled arms will change that as it was a national mental state that allowed it to happen anyways.

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The British Army were in Northern Ireland for 30 years yet paramilitaries were still able to operate and carry out bombings and killings even with a full security apparatus in place.

Look at the situation in Iraq and Afghanistan for a modern day comparison - even with a full occupying force, paramilitaries and militias are able to mount fairly effective campaigns against the occupiers.

I think you underestimate the difficulty of subduing a resistance.

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Originally by: Iasius

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As a Brit what annoys me most is the dire, miserable architecture. The German luftwaffe came nowhere close to town planners when it came to ruining urban landscapes in the 1960's. Our shopping centres look cheap and tacky. 90% of the houses follow a few standard designs.

My favourite part of USA is the east coat. New York is a great city. I didnt really like Calafornia. Most stuff i came across was new, not much old textures. San Francisco was to much like a tourist trap. Like Stratford in the UK is.

Napolean was right when he called the UK a nation of shop keepers. The elite here have a disdain for technology that annoys me. I am fed up about reading about Marks & Spencers and not about the innovative capability we have for engineering. We are just useless at homegrown modern large scale industry. Yet most of the worlds motorsport teams are based in the UK.

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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18

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Both America and Britain are equally ****. Britain had an empire and was too weak to keep hold of it. America can't aquire an empire as they have never won a war on their own.

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Originally by: Leina Kubyeshev

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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18

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Both America and Britain are equally ****. Britain had an empire and was too weak to keep hold of it. America can't aquire an empire as they have never won a war on their own.

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Hmm, pacific theatre anybody? War of independence? mexican war? native american wars? latin american interventions?

We've done plenty , learn history before you talk buddy.

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Originally by: Leina Kubyeshev

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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18

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Both America and Britain are equally ****. Britain had an empire and was too weak to keep hold of it. America can't aquire an empire as they have never won a war on their own.

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Hmm, pacific theatre anybody? War of independence? mexican war? native american wars? latin american interventions?

We've done plenty , learn history before you talk buddy.

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Originally by: Mc Gyver

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I love how the Canada Day thread was pretty nice & civil, and this 4th of July thread is full of a bunch of ppl crying, priceless

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Mc Gyver

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I love how the Canada Day thread was pretty nice & civil, and this 4th of July thread is full of a bunch of ppl crying, priceless

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I know. All the brits crying emo tears are hilarious. Must be a cultural thing with the new british youth. Somehow I don't think even a freighter full of modern arms would make a lick of difference to any armed police states longevity.

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Originally by: Leina Kubyeshev

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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18

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Both America and Britain are equally ****. Britain had an empire and was too weak to keep hold of it. America can't aquire an empire as they have never won a war on their own.

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Hmm, pacific theatre anybody? War of independence? mexican war? native american wars? latin american interventions?

We've done plenty , learn history before you talk buddy.

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Mc Gyver

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I love how the Canada Day thread was pretty nice & civil, and this 4th of July thread is full of a bunch of ppl crying, priceless

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I know. All the brits crying emo tears are hilarious. Must be a cultural thing with the new british youth. Somehow I don't think even a freighter full of modern arms would make a lick of difference to any armed police states longevity.

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Zeba, i never chalked you up as the arrogant type; Not all of us "Youth" are chavs. And its depressing that other people see it as so. They're just the ones who are most vocal, not even a Majority.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Mc Gyver

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I love how the Canada Day thread was pretty nice & civil, and this 4th of July thread is full of a bunch of ppl crying, priceless

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I know. All the brits crying emo tears are hilarious. Must be a cultural thing with the new british youth. Somehow I don't think even a freighter full of modern arms would make a lick of difference to any armed police states longevity.

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Zeba, i never chalked you up as the arrogant type; Not all of us "Youth" are chavs. And its depressing that other people see it as so. They're just the ones who are most vocal, not even a Majority.

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Sorry. Was just rolling with the thread.

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Its K. I just get butthurt about being lumped with chavs

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Its K. I just get butthurt about being lumped with chavs

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Which is why I used it. Its like a WMD for baiting certain people.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Blame the whiskey.

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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America never had an empire because it reached its prime past the age of imperialism.

If many of you Brits are particularly proud of subjugating foreign people to your will then we obviously differ greatly in our views on morality.

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Its K. I just get butthurt about being lumped with chavs

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Which is why I used it. Its like a WMD for baiting certain people.

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OH NO YOU DIDN'T

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Originally by: baltec1

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Originally by: Leina Kubyeshev

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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18

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Both America and Britain are equally ****. Britain had an empire and was too weak to keep hold of it. America can't aquire an empire as they have never won a war on their own.

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Hmm, pacific theatre anybody? War of independence? mexican war? native american wars? latin american interventions?

We've done plenty , learn history before you talk buddy.

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Sorry to burst your bubble but Britain was in the pacific war too and was loaded with the bigger burden.

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Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa

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America never had an empire because it reached its prime past the age of imperialism.

If many of you Brits are particularly proud of subjugating foreign people to your will then we obviously differ greatly in our views on morality.

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Originally by: baltec1

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Originally by: Leina Kubyeshev

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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18

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Both America and Britain are equally ****. Britain had an empire and was too weak to keep hold of it. America can't aquire an empire as they have never won a war on their own.

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Hmm, pacific theatre anybody? War of independence? mexican war? native american wars? latin american interventions?

We've done plenty , learn history before you talk buddy.

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Sorry to burst your bubble but Britain was in the pacific war too and was loaded with the bigger burden.

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And the French were heavily involved in the war of independance, to the point of changing it's outcome very significantly.

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Gotta feel sorry for the French sometimes, they've helped and given America over the years, only to receive abuse in return.

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Originally by: Mc Gyver

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Gotta feel sorry for the French sometimes, they've helped and given America over the years, only to receive abuse in return.

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Don't kid yourself, any help they gave was to ultimately help themselves more than to help us...

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Originally by: Angelik'a

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You're all English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh/Italian/French/Spanish/etc anyway, no point in arguing lol

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