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Kambiri Zoltana
the united Negative Ten.
19
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Posted - 2012.05.22 13:50:00 -
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Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:04:00 -
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It's essentially unplayable until it is brought back. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3503
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:05:00 -
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+1
Also put back the active ship in the hangar window please.
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Thebriwan
LUX Uls Xystus
49
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:05:00 -
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And they should open at the position they were the last time I used them! |

Steijn
Quay Industries
51
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:06:00 -
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+1
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Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
163
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:07:00 -
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Support Will the new FW be any good??? |

Rrama Ratamnim
Phoenix Evolved Part Duo
8
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:07:00 -
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ok lets not go as far to say that its not playable but it is annoying they need to add shortcut links to the old spots that pop a small simplified window of that locations target
would solve SO MANY ISSUES |

Disdaine
266
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:07:00 -
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+2
Bring back the old windows and attach your turd tree to them if you must. |

Sarton Wells
Blackmoon Ltd.
1
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:10:00 -
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Though I wouldn't mind if they bring back the buttons on the neocom I'd probably still use alt+G and alt+N. Much quicker that way. |

Josef Djugashvilis
201
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:10:00 -
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It would help. You want fries with that? |
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Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:11:00 -
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THE WINDOW Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
266
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:12:00 -
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+100
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Visionthing
Kilo Company
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:12:00 -
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Didn't anyone bring this up during testing ? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6990
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:13:00 -
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Kind of but not quite.
I want them to build on the new system by letting us assign GÇ£root objectsGÇ¥ as specific windows.
Let me define a GǣstationGǥ inventory that has things like the station hangar, corp hangar, corp deliveries and ship hangar in its tree, and nothing else (because those are the only things that are subcategories to station inventories). Then let me define a GǣshipGǥ inventory window that has things like the ship cargo hold, the drone bay, the ore bay, the whatever-bay in its tree view and nothing else (because those inventories are the only ones that have a ship as its root object). Then let me define a Gǣcargo canGǣ inventory that listsGǪ (drumroll) cargo cans in its tree view, because that's the only thing that sorts under that root object.
GǪand now let me actually make use of that much-vaunted NeoCom customisation to assign each of these root-object-inventories to a specific button (and as an added bonus, let me define a custom keyboard command for each such button). Then let each such window remember aaaaaaall of its settings: location, size, last seen content, default content, stacking, view modes, tree and filter expansions and settings and so on.
Then we'll have something that starts to look like a good inventory management system (also, cross-port the inventory manager to cover the other two obvious uses: the S&I interface and the asset windows GÇö both corp and personal).
Visionthing wrote:Didn't anyone bring this up during testing ? Pretty much all of us did. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |

Captain Praxis
EVE University Ivy League
24
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:14:00 -
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+1
Please restore the lost functionality from the old UI |

Iamien
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
159
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:14:00 -
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lyk dis if you cry evry tym. |

Skorpynekomimi
196
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:16:00 -
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Yes! Bring back the easy access! Tried to load ammo into a ship, but ended up sticking it into the ship I arrived in. |

JEZEB
Stainless Steel Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:17:00 -
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I really don't see why they would even put this in here. How is making us click MORE times going to make the game better?
Ignorant.
Whoever thought this was a good idea, you get ten virtual punches in the face.
Idiots. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:18:00 -
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Skorpynekomimi wrote:Yes! Bring back the easy access! Tried to load ammo into a ship, but ended up sticking it into the ship I arrived in.
Something similar happened to me last night South of Market Street, but that's for a different thread........ Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:19:00 -
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JEZEB wrote:I really don't see why they would even put this in here. How is making us click MORE times going to make the game better?
Ignorant.
Whoever thought this was a good idea, you get ten virtual punches in the face.
Idiots.
We really tried explaining this to them on Sisi Forum. They had hands over ears "La la la la la. I can't hear you. LaLaLaLaLa...." Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
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BigDaddyMcFatSacks
Space Olympics LLC
10
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:19:00 -
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yes, the new "inventory" sucks for a lot of things. Eve is quickly turning into a game where i spend most of my time clicking different ****. Tired of it. Keep it simple CCP... |

Yogsoloth
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
34
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:20:00 -
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It is just soo bad on soo many levels it's amazing these changes make it through to live. |

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
40
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:20:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:It's essentially unplayable until it is brought back.
Would also like them to retain their settings and reopen in the last spot when docking/undocking/changing system (like they used to). |

Fynen
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:23:00 -
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Why is it that each time CCP does something major with the interface, it 'looks' nice on paper but when i actually sit in front of the game and see it i spend the first 5 minutes marveling at the nice new interface... and the next half hour thinking about what functionality i just lost, how much more time i have to spend doing what i did effortless before and how to actually do what i did before?
Damn! And the neocom bar is still not back to what it once was. :-/ |

Zealc
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
8
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:26:00 -
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Seems CCP have returned to their ways of half baked ideas and unfinished code. Who else would ask for feedback, ignore it and push it through anyway.
Remember how that went last year?
edit: Just tried to refuel a cap ship from the corp hanger. You have to jump through hoops to do previously simple tasks. We really an option to go back to the old system if it's preferred like CQ. |

Visionthing
Kilo Company
3
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:34:00 -
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Zealc wrote:Seems CCP have returned to their ways of half baked ideas and unfinished code. Who else would ask for feedback, ignore it and push it through anyway.
Remember how that went last year?
This +100
Come on CCP WAKE UP OR DIE
< suspects some meeting somewhere..... "OK, we can't do greed is good, how about we screw them over with the UI?"
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1235
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:38:00 -
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supported The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

My Time
Bunyip Munitions
2
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:39:00 -
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Bring back old UI
+1
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Sellendis
The Ares project
105
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:43:00 -
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Nice to see its all going along as we predicted. We raged on this issue on SiSi, CCP ignored us. Windows still cant remember crap of positions, Its slower and with worse visibility than the old inventory, but by all means, let push it to TQ.
How 3 weeks of negative feedback on new inventory UI didnt ring any bells to CCP? Simple, they dont care....as always. Half finished crappy product got pushed to live couse no DEV has balls to say it is bad. |

Tobiaz
Spacerats
467
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:43:00 -
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+1
I like the new Unified Inventory, but removing quickbuttons to ships, and corp hangar is bad. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:45:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kind of but not quite. I want them to build on the new system by letting us assign GÇ£root objectsGÇ¥ as specific windows. Let me define a GÇ£stationGÇ¥ inventory that has things like the station hangar, corp hangar, corp deliveries and ship hangar in its tree, and nothing else (because those are the only things that are subcategories to station inventories). Then let me define a GÇ£shipGÇ¥ inventory window that has things like the ship cargo hold, the drone bay, the ore bay, the whatever-bay in its tree view and nothing else (because those inventories are the only ones that have a ship as its root object). Then let me define a GÇ£cargo canGÇ£ inventory that listsGǪ (drumroll) cargo cans in its tree view, because that's the only thing that sorts under that root object. GǪand now let me actually make use of that much-vaunted NeoCom customisation to assign each of these root-object-inventories to a specific button (and as an added bonus, let me define a custom keyboard command for each such button). Then let each such window remember aaaaaaall of its settings: location, size, last seen content, default content, stacking, view modes, tree and filter expansions and settings and so on. Then we'll have something that starts to look like a good inventory management system (also, cross-port the inventory manager to cover the other two obvious uses: the S&I interface and the asset windows GÇö both corp and personal). Visionthing wrote:Didn't anyone bring this up during testing ? Pretty much all of us did.
+1 on this
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theteck3
Quarantine Corporation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:46:00 -
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+1 |

Sentient Blade
Walk It Off Imperial Ascension
380
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:46:00 -
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Also; please for the love of God group the labs / defences / arrays on the POS. That list is freakin' long and for POS defences I'm rarely going to give a damn about them, especially as it says I have to be within 2500 to open. |

Jonah Gravenstein
325
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:49:00 -
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I don't mind the unified industry it's handy in some ways, but they should have left us the icons for the ship and item hangars as well. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

JohnnyRingo
TunDraGon
19
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:51:00 -
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+1
Also bring back display of active ship in ship hangar window
Also add option to open new window every time you doubleclick/open container/cargohold etc, this should make everyone happy
Also Separate corp hangar
Also Bring back ship/hangar/corp hangar buttons
Also Value up the fittings/subsys not just hull value
Also stop doing stupid things CCP
/rant over |

Nataliya Barre
Immortal Nomads
19
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:53:00 -
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After REALLY giving this a try id say
THIS SUCKS!!!
Those new missiles and launchers looks nice though |

Noesis Dream
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.22 14:55:00 -
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Oh hi ccp
This inventory system has potential.
That said, bring back the old buttons.
And stop dropping these UI bombs. I dont mind you put new stuff in the game, but this whole: "we just force it down our clients throats" is not a good business strategy. Make this stuff more optional.
Remember the right click window changes and the walking in hangar thingy? I'am sure you guys will (eventually) learn.  |

Cali Zindonas
Rudel Taktik
10
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Posted - 2012.05.22 15:01:00 -
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Strange Shadow wrote:THIS IS BROADCAST FOR EVERYONE.
CCP OVERLOOKED OPTION -> ESC -> GENERAL SETTINGS -> "Merge Items and Ships into Station Panel"
SOMEHOW IT ESCAPED THE CLUTCHES OF UNIFIED INVENTORY AND STILL WORKS AS INTENDED.
AMARRIAN GOD PLEASE HELP US ALL TO FORGIVE DEVS FOR THIS NEW INVENTORY SYSTEM.
works!
http://i.imgur.com/CJrjA.jpg |

Voi Lutois
Valkyr Industries Late Night Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.05.22 15:11:00 -
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supper |

Roxwar
The Foreign Legion Test Alliance Please Ignore
43
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Posted - 2012.05.22 15:14:00 -
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Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again.
EDIT: Now having played a bit more, and me being a pirate. I like the new missile effects and the new killmails. Also the value shown of all items in a hangar is nice. But please also fix the above.
I begrudge upvoting you due to belonging to a corp who's only trick is smartbombing gates, but your point is valid enough for me to overlook my discrimination and upvote your suggestion. Go you.
http://roxwar.blogspot.com/ |
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Brutal Red
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 15:18:00 -
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Noesis Dream wrote:Oh hi ccp This inventory system has potential. That said, bring back the old buttons. And stop dropping these UI bombs. I dont mind you put new stuff in the game, but this whole: "we just force it down our clients throats" is not a good business strategy. Make this stuff more optional. Remember the right click window changes and the walking in hangar thingy? I'am sure you guys will (eventually) learn. 
++
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
634
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Posted - 2012.05.22 15:19:00 -
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I use merge Ships and Items with station hangar, so I always have them on the right pane.
I recommend this for anyone who sits in a station regularly. As thus, i don't really feel the need for this. Perhaps what would be better is a way to bookmark any window in a setting you like.
For those of you who don't like the index, I'd like to point out you can minimize the index and never see it again by pressing the double chevrons on the top left of the panel. Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |

Conspicuous Forums-Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.05.22 15:26:00 -
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Can someone please0 do a photoshop of the Bush Jr. photo-op in a carrier with the "mission accomplished" sign, but change bush's face for soundwave, and mission accomplished for "lesson learned"? I would do it myself, but no idea about photo editing, and too lazy to try and learn it myself just for this.
Also, +1 to this thread. |

Miss Management
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 15:48:00 -
[44] - Quote
+1
Tried to load some ammo and undocked with a cargo hold full of tampons and a coffee grinder. |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
656
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Posted - 2012.05.22 15:56:00 -
[45] - Quote
It made it live because when CCP asked for comments, 90% of the responses were "I like" in one form or another.
What I would like:
Window setups remember their setup, one for when docked, one for in space.
Any item in the tree can be dragged to the neocom and creates a button that opens up just that item window. The resulting button would only show on the neocom when you are in a location that allows you to open that item window. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Senarian Tyme
Serenity Rising LLC Vanguard.
11
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Posted - 2012.05.22 15:59:00 -
[46] - Quote
Old Buttons Please!
Also PLEASE read the book "The Inmates are Running the Asylum". It addresses many of the HCI problems you seem to have been stumbling over lately. |

Indiria Fuentes
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:15:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kind of but not quite.
I want them to build on the new system by letting us assign GÇ£root objectsGÇ¥ as specific windows.
Let me define a GǣstationGǥ inventory that has things like the station hangar, corp hangar, corp deliveries and ship hangar in its tree, and nothing else (because those are the only things that are subcategories to station inventories). Then let me define a GǣshipGǥ inventory window that has things like the ship cargo hold, the drone bay, the ore bay, the whatever-bay in its tree view and nothing else (because those inventories are the only ones that have a ship as its root object). Then let me define a Gǣcargo canGǣ inventory that listsGǪ (drumroll) cargo cans in its tree view, because that's the only thing that sorts under that root object.
GǪand now let me actually make use of that much-vaunted NeoCom customisation to assign each of these root-object-inventories to a specific button (and as an added bonus, let me define a custom keyboard command for each such button). Then let each such window remember aaaaaaall of its settings: location, size, last seen content, default content, stacking, view modes, tree and filter expansions and settings and so on.
Then we'll have something that starts to look like a good inventory management system (also, cross-port the inventory manager to cover the other two obvious uses: the S&I interface and the asset windows GÇö both corp and personal).
pretty much this! |

ISquishWorms
113
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:18:00 -
[48] - Quote
+1 |

Zleon Leigh
117
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:23:00 -
[49] - Quote
+1 to OP.
Again obvious - dev's don't actually play the game...
Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |

CoLe Blackblood
the united Negative Ten.
37
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:35:00 -
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I vote for more ships! |
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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
112
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:40:00 -
[51] - Quote
They were warned. so many pages of test feed back, but no we just got told "its a minor change", "you'll get used to it" and anyone who posted against it was obviously afraid of change. 
Well CCP how's the feedback so far ?
Tal
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Tradari
Black Dragons of the Apocalypse Royal Flush.
1
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:41:00 -
[52] - Quote
agree the items new window is waste of time |

Darvec
D00M. Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:41:00 -
[53] - Quote
+1
Im sure CCPs motto is If it Aint Broke, Break it.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7014
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:46:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:It made it live because when CCP asked for comments, 90% of the responses were "I like" in one form or another. Let's qualify that statement a bitGǪ
It made it live because they asked for comments on the blog and 90% of the responses were GÇ£I likeGÇ¥ (me included)GǪ until it actually became available for testing and people started to list the litany of issues it had. But they aren't all that well poised to deal with actual test feedback.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:48:00 -
[55] - Quote
CSM only said (unanimously) "It's great. Really. Yup." Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Ghost Reaper
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
2
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:51:00 -
[56] - Quote
+1, this new system is crap. Make it a option to have the new system or the old one. I dnt want to have to add it to the station bar also: Why does double clicking a ship now switch to that ship, instead of open its cargohold Why does the ship ur currently flying now show in ur stupid new ship hanger, thats ******** |

B3AST MODE B3AST
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:53:00 -
[57] - Quote
It is horribad. I tried to fit a ship this morning and it took so much longer that I missed the fight entirely. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:54:00 -
[58] - Quote
Jita Pop now well over 2600 Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Mao TseTongue
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:54:00 -
[59] - Quote
+1 this new system is retrded. Change it back cause this crap is unplayable |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
116
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:57:00 -
[60] - Quote
I don't even want to discover or even think about the mechanics or transferring now between the Orca Corp Hold and the POS Array holds. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
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BlocPartyy
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:58:00 -
[61] - Quote
I want the old system back! What was so bad about it? Why did you have to change it? |

Zoloft Rx
Forged Prophets
23
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:59:00 -
[62] - Quote
A simple solution can be found here.
They have a new neocom, but don't want to utilize it..
CCP.. Have your cake and eat it too. Keep the new inventory, While adding upon the recently added neocom. |

Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
177
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:01:00 -
[63] - Quote
I mentioned this in the feed back thread. Being able to open current active ship cargo bay and current station item hanger in their own windows is awesome.
Then have the new tree menu be used for all other items, such as your assets window. That way, you have the best of both worlds.
I use my cargo and current station hanger every single day. Basically, every time before I undock and after I return. Having to navigate through the tree to get to these is terrible. On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |

Hairpins Blueprint
Shadow-Kill
8
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:09:00 -
[64] - Quote
+1 |

Kalpel
KBM
20
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:09:00 -
[65] - Quote
Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again.
EDIT: Now having played a bit more, and me being a pirate. I like the new missile effects and the new killmails. Also the value shown of all items in a hangar is nice. But please also fix the above.
Agreed 100%
You failed to target nothing!-áGëívGëí online |

Yabba Addict
Legion of the Many
13
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:10:00 -
[66] - Quote
Right, off to jita with my rainbow apoc, let the riots commnce  |

Aerich e'Kieron
Snuff Box
3
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:12:00 -
[67] - Quote
+1 |

octahexx Charante
Lamb Federation Navy Against ALL Authorities
10
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:26:00 -
[68] - Quote
jesus christ you cant even oneclick loot wrecks and salvage its the same freaking morphed all in one window...thank you cccp you made grinding even worse then it is....do you guys even play eve anymore? |

Nafire
Lamb Federation Navy Academy En Garde
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:28:00 -
[69] - Quote
+1 |

Elfendor
Legion Condor
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 18:13:00 -
[70] - Quote
+1, pls return old UI |
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Chase The Dragon
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.05.22 18:15:00 -
[71] - Quote
+1
A very poor change implemented by people who were more interested in the visual than gameplay. |

De Veresse
One Horse Trading
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 18:19:00 -
[72] - Quote
+1 |

Maximus Loafikus
The Shangri-La Colony
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 18:22:00 -
[73] - Quote
Please bring these back , its a nightmare .. |

Mogwhi
Bureau Of Mining Barges
4
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Posted - 2012.05.22 18:23:00 -
[74] - Quote
ok i get the concept of wanting to merge some windows, but come on really containers really need a seperate window. grinding missions then double clicking to open every single container, then having to wait 3-5 seconds for that container to close its blank window and allow you access to the next one was bad enough. Now I have to double click wait 2-5 seconds to move to the next container and if then click on a contianer again because the view has switched to my cargo hold instead of the next containers. A level 4 Mordus Headhunter mission is going to take as long to salvage as to do the actual mission. (not really but its going to feel like it when you are still clicking to salvag\loot all 20 mins later)
+1 to OP |

Sir Halfloaf
Amarrian Bakery Corp
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:24:00 -
[75] - Quote
This inventory window makes me want to unsub .. |

fruitloaf
Interstellar Steel Templis Dragonaors
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:24:00 -
[76] - Quote
i agree bring back the seperate buttons with the ability to keep them seperate |

mantis starfight
The Shangri-La Colony
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:25:00 -
[77] - Quote
bring it back it is more complex than it ever was |

Sakkar Arenith
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
41
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:29:00 -
[78] - Quote
+1,
just wow CCP are we back to full ****** mode with patches again? though someone was bragging on how ccp wanted to listen to player feedback before implementing "upgrades" to things that worked perfectly fine before...
still more astonishing is the fat that in the month its been on sisi you could figure the **** out (not like we didnt tell dozens of times..) that the window position etc is bugged and doesnt save preferences like position etc...
wow, just wow again, back to CQ disaster times....? |

Dave Monkey
Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:32:00 -
[79] - Quote
+1 ccp ...just as we think u guys have got things good again you come up with thin inventory poo !
Roll back plz |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
119
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:33:00 -
[80] - Quote
Sir Halfloaf wrote:This inventory window makes me want to unsub ..
Do it. Don't jsut say it.
Money is the only thing they will hear anymore. SONY is involved after all. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
|

So Phea
Lamellar Vorpal's Edge
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:37:00 -
[81] - Quote
The new inventory fails, and as Mogwhi says, trying to salvage any mission takes 3x as long.
Please, please, please give us the old windows back. |

Hannibal Ord
Fer-De-Lance
57
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:40:00 -
[82] - Quote
octahexx Charante wrote:jesus christ you cant even oneclick loot wrecks and salvage its the same freaking morphed all in one window...thank you cccp you made grinding even worse then it is....do you guys even play eve anymore?
Not sure if serious. It takes half the time now to do it. |

Aurianka
Gemeinschaft interstellarer Soeldner Ev0ke
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:43:00 -
[83] - Quote
As pvper i need the old system because i have no time to scroll and scroll and scroll in this crapy window if i loot my enemys wreck with ships on d-scan. the new menue looks nice but its not funktional for my style to play this game.
Filling ammo in 20 or more corp ships at the same time will be horrible with this one windows solution. before the patch i opened the ammoconti and the cargos and dronebays of the 20 ships and drop very fast and easy the correct amount of ammo and drones per drag and drop. with the new system its an torture now.
PLEASE BRING THE OLD SYSTEM BACK
Edit: sorry my bad english, i hope you understand my problems with this important change |

Black Token
The Moon Rise LazyProd
5
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:43:00 -
[84] - Quote
+1 Unplayable as it is. For Industrialist first, then for everyone else. |

Anonym00z
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:44:00 -
[85] - Quote
+1 |

Romar Agent
Ishukone Regional Headquarters
34
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:45:00 -
[86] - Quote
I'm not impressed:
Why does the inventory window open when I open my cargo hold in space? I'm use to having this window on minimal size, as at 1366x768 my screen is small enough - now there is barely space for the actual item sub-window.
Then how can I open two or more container windows next to each other? I liked the impression of having different rooms in my hangar, i.e. called "Supply Bay", "Storage", "Lounge", "Library". Thanks for blowing up my immersion.
Any hints on how to keep an old mutiple container pattern going? |

leich
Nocturnal Romance Fall From Heaven
35
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:45:00 -
[87] - Quote
Can we also have the option to right click open hanger while in space.
Please.
With sugar and cherries and chocolate stuff. |

Tarkoauc
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
31
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:46:00 -
[88] - Quote
This system is so bad it is beyond words. Whoever designed this has not been a user with a POSes, corp hangers and thousands of items that need to be shipped around.
There are so many things broken in Eve (invention and manufacturing menus and the inability to just invent 5 things by highlight multiple items) that need fixing, why did you break a system that actually worked? |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1506
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:47:00 -
[89] - Quote
great patch, terrible UI changes. It is nice and aesthetic, but not very functional at all. CCP, it would be very nice if we had the option to set windows, such as particular containers, to always open in a separate window, and set items and ships to separate windows as well. Right now the inventory UI is pretty poorly thought out - it wants to be very tall (ship list), and wants to be very wide (item list). Screen real estate is a valuable commodity in EVE, and this new inventory shows absolutely no consideration of it. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

NickyYo
StarHug
122
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:48:00 -
[90] - Quote
AGREE! - |
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Venatoor
The 7th Armada
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:48:00 -
[91] - Quote
Well... I'm about to cancel my 3 accounts. Now, when I go to login, I have to WAIT in a queue before I can even get into the game!??? Not happening!!! So long, EVE.. It's not worth the hassle anymore! o/ |

Andy DelGardo
Hedion University Amarr Empire
8
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:50:00 -
[92] - Quote
Romar Agent wrote:I'm not impressed:
Why does the inventory window open when I open my cargo hold in space? I'm use to having this window on minimal size, as at 1366x768 my screen is small enough - now there is barely space for the actual item sub-window.
Then how can I open two or more container windows next to each other? I liked the impression of having different rooms in my hangar, i.e. called "Supply Bay", "Storage", "Lounge", "Library". Thanks for blowing up my immersion.
Any hints on how to keep an old mutiple container pattern going?
I have the same problem, with the old system i had different setups and window sizes/positions, now i always must have this big window open. I also had different display options enabled per type, so my cargo-hold had big icons, while my corp hangar had the small text lists, now i cant setup and reuse those settings, which really is a step backwards for me. |

Recoil IV
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
8
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:50:00 -
[93] - Quote
love the new missiles,and launchers effect bla bla
i hate : the inventory . everytime i jump the gate or undock my ship my cargohold window pops and it shows its loading (something).
i hate that prices of loyal store in both isk and lp.
jita riot . get your clubs |

Sirylis
The Galactic Explorations Company
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:55:00 -
[94] - Quote
+1
Now the screen is full of windows, and they are filled with info I do not need. Besides, at station it is utterly frustrating when you can't see your corp hangar, items or ships without wandering through several steps. BRING BACK THE OLD VIEW. Please... |

Dyvim Slorm
MNU Operations Luna Sanguinem
11
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:57:00 -
[95] - Quote
+1
I'm not one to criticise CCP unduly, but this is a total mess. |

Hactar 42
Valhollr Cold Steel Alliance
5
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 18:57:00 -
[96] - Quote
the changes are HORRIBLE. i move stuff all day and have many containers and ships.
i take loads of time to get anything done and am annoyed ALL THE TIME.
HORRIBLE
--
but why posting here ? will be deleted again i bet.
i wrote the same words in another thread and that hasn't just been locked but deleted obviously.
i am starting to think about this kind of censorship . . . |

Beolor
Integral Conceptions Inc. Integral Concepts Alliance
5
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:00:00 -
[97] - Quote
+1 |

Vin Ott
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
36
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:01:00 -
[98] - Quote
Bring it back, it's ******* ****, what were you thinking. |

Ymmi Stenson
Aquila Crysaetos Aquila Societatem
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:02:00 -
[99] - Quote
Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again.
EDIT: Now having played a bit more, and me being a pirate. I like the new missile effects and the new killmails. Also the value shown of all items in a hangar is nice. But please also fix the above. Why you need THREE buttons when you can do it with ONE button? |

CARB0N FIBER
Derailleurs
6
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:03:00 -
[100] - Quote
+1 |
|

Ymmi Stenson
Aquila Crysaetos Aquila Societatem
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:05:00 -
[101] - Quote
Tarkoauc wrote:This system is so bad it is beyond words. Whoever designed this has not been a user with a POSes, corp hangers and thousands of items that need to be shipped around.
There are so many things broken in Eve (invention and manufacturing menus and the inability to just invent 5 things by highlight multiple items) that need fixing, why did you break a system that actually worked? So basically you are saying that draggin and dropping into list instead of another window is too much for your brains?  |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
39
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:05:00 -
[102] - Quote
Aurianka wrote:As pvper i need the old system because i have no time to scroll and scroll and scroll in this crapy window if i loot my enemys wreck with ships on d-scan. the new menue looks nice but its not funktional for my style to play this game.
Filling ammo in 20 or more corp ships at the same time will be horrible with this one windows solution. before the patch i opened the ammoconti and the cargos and dronebays of the 20 ships and drop very fast and easy the correct amount of ammo and drones per drag and drop. with the new system its an torture now.
PLEASE BRING THE OLD SYSTEM BACK
Edit: sorry my bad english, i hope you understand my problems with this important change
You shouldn't have to excuse yourself for your bad English level, my self being horrible with, however Mr Hilmar should bring some wise words to our concerns.
How can someone at his post be that indifferent to our concerns after so much blahblah at fanfest?
This is wrong. |

arbalesttom
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
4
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:07:00 -
[103] - Quote
+1 its driving me absolutely nuts....for fun try mining with multiple characters or compress stuff with multiple rorquals...you'll find out quick if you haven't logged in yet... |

yunafan2004
Nox Noctis Industrius Novus Dominatum
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:10:00 -
[104] - Quote
What can i point out that others have not already in this about the new inventory crap......doing anything at a tower is a hassle now especially when you have alot of mods attached to it. Who in the hell decided it was a good idea to remove the ability to open multiple windows?! It would have been nice if they gave us the option to try this crap system out then if we didnt like it turn it off. I think someone stated "this is almost unplayable." I really have to agree. i really hope they hear our crys and revert or atleast give us the option to use the old way.... |

Dreimak
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:14:00 -
[105] - Quote
I agree 100% with this message and/or service. |

Kayleigh Lothian
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:15:00 -
[106] - Quote
I am kinda used to work with multiple windows, many overlapping. This feels like going back to VMS via a terminal.
While you are at it, could we get a text only UI? Line based... |

Naszar
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:17:00 -
[107] - Quote
+1
This needs a fix. |

Norsk Maelstrom
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:17:00 -
[108] - Quote
This new inventory upgrade really sucks for miners also, i operate 6 clients mining and you've made it a real hassle. Not to mention losing my ship and items tab. What were you thinking CCP |

Daen Cadrim
Rheingold Institute
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:17:00 -
[109] - Quote
bring back the "good" old inventory system.
+1 |

S'adler
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:17:00 -
[110] - Quote
+1 thank you so much for fixing what wasn't broken, now put i back the way it was. |
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smokeAjoint
Axial tilt Imperius Legio Victrix
4
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:18:00 -
[111] - Quote
+1 -álegalize it |

Jack Verone
Frost Tech
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:20:00 -
[112] - Quote
Aye, +1.....This is just bad in so many ways... |

sAyArrrr
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:20:00 -
[113] - Quote
+9001
never not fix stuff that isn't broken in the first place :ccp:
Rest of the patch looks good tho...besides the horrible amount of bugs. |

Anharat
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:21:00 -
[114] - Quote
what is this **** ? |

TN Gr1mmage
Black Lance RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:21:00 -
[115] - Quote
+1 |

GoldenFalo
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:21:00 -
[116] - Quote
+1 |

Romar Agent
Ishukone Regional Headquarters
36
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:22:00 -
[117] - Quote
What I do not understand in general is why most CCP "improvements" kill the former way of usage.
Would it have been a major problem having the inventory alongside single windows options? Even our beloved Windows OS is still able to do that (Explorer + single Windows).
Reminds me of Incarna when the Captain's Quarters was not only offered, but actually erased the hangar view (erased it so badly that it had to be rebuilt - and badly at that - anyone who has had a closer look at the Amarr landing pad will know what I mean...).
I mean, I will not quit over the current changes, and I will certainly find some use for them, but well. There are features I personally have no need for.
Okay, it's progress, change is not already bad. And I bet there are a good deal of those stereotypical players that rejoice because of the inventory (being stereotypically ladden with stuff that has never been sorted through before - sorry couldn't resist ).
TL;DR: Not impressed, not quite angry, basically meh... |

Pericles Redstorm
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:22:00 -
[118] - Quote
+1 The new innovatory is crap. |

danidin
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:22:00 -
[119] - Quote
+1 Roll it back the way it was- this is terrible! 
|

Beetle Boy
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:22:00 -
[120] - Quote
I fully support this person who talking about this, item, ship, module, bug or epic patch FAIL!!! |
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The Slayer
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:22:00 -
[121] - Quote
Hurp |

Starman666
Ramm's RDI Tactical Narcotics Team
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:23:00 -
[122] - Quote
Yes this IS a BIG pain, makes mining and ratting a headache, needing that big window open to check ammo amounts. AND the way it pops up every time you jump! C'mon CCP! |

sajberk
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
22
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:23:00 -
[123] - Quote
ffs ccp.. fix it. Its broken!
edit page 7 snipah |

Tiggi Wrath
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:24:00 -
[124] - Quote
+1
|

PEWKITT
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:24:00 -
[125] - Quote
Fail CCP |

mrpapageorgio
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:24:00 -
[126] - Quote
+1
Roll it back, I hate this new inventory. |

Baba Z
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:25:00 -
[127] - Quote
danidin wrote:+1 Roll it back the way it was- this is terrible! 
This ^^ Do It! That is all.
|

Kittengirl
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:25:00 -
[128] - Quote
+1
Please Please change this back..... |

LASHA MPO
One Horse Trading
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:25:00 -
[129] - Quote
+1, CCP repeat after me - If it ain't broke, dont fix it. |

Etali
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:25:00 -
[130] - Quote
sAyArrrr wrote:+9001
never not fix stuff that isn't broken in the first place :ccp:
Rest of the patch looks good tho...besides the horrible amount of bugs.
^^ Agreed
A toggle, so that you can keep to the minimalistic interface (not the "shrink this window" options you have with the new thing), would be really nice. |
|

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
128
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:27:00 -
[131] - Quote
I just want to be able to dock and immediately see everything in my Hanger again. Not a lot to ask really. It wasn't even an issue.
"IT WAS THERE."
Now it's simply an impossible goal. What a weird-a**ed day. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
121
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:28:00 -
[132] - Quote
z
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |

FeralShadow
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
122
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:28:00 -
[133] - Quote
Shift click to open new window. Shift click to open new window. How the Eve Sandbox Works:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=482176#post482176 "I do believe in karma. That means that whenever I do something sh**y to others, they somehow deserved it." |

Rossi Tenmar
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:28:00 -
[134] - Quote
+1
Or at least give us the option like we have now with the CQ to choose. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
128
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:30:00 -
[135] - Quote
It's really an excellent system for the Assets window which we pointed out many times on the Test Server Foum. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Koppite
UK Corp RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:30:00 -
[136] - Quote
+1
|

AcientTauri
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:31:00 -
[137] - Quote
+1
Thanks for the new kill reports and the many many many new annoying features and random bug... features. |

Rasmier
Urban Mining Corp Rising Phoenix Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:31:00 -
[138] - Quote
please bring the old inventory UI back, or at leaste give us the option in UI setup to use either UI old or new. Those of us liveing in WH's are having a hell of a time with all our POS crap showing up. Also the fact of the inventory opening up every time we jump through a wormhole is just plain irritating. |

Sayyahdina
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:32:00 -
[139] - Quote
+1 |

Galaxy Drones
13th Squadron Cascade Imminent
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:32:00 -
[140] - Quote
+1 |
|

Zilero
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
13
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:32:00 -
[141] - Quote
Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again.
EDIT: Now having played a bit more, and me being a pirate. I like the new missile effects and the new killmails. Also the value shown of all items in a hangar is nice. But please also fix the above.
+1! |

Baldrik DeLeNoir
Beltane Legion
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:33:00 -
[142] - Quote
+1
So, CCP you were told about this on the test server and still went ahead - nice |

warbds
Bendebeukers Green Rhino
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:33:00 -
[143] - Quote
Fail CCP give me back my items and ship bay!     |

Kururunfa
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:34:00 -
[144] - Quote
FeralShadow wrote:Shift click to open new window.
That solves some of the issues, but it's still less efficient than the old way. If you're close to a tower and open your cargo hold, it chugs for ages before showing you your ships cargo and a bunch of stuff under "Starbase Structures" that you probably have zero interest in.
The inventory sizes and settings don't stick between docks and jumps, either (at least not for me).
Having a choice between old and new would be really handy.
|

MD74
Axial tilt Imperius Legio Victrix
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:35:00 -
[145] - Quote
It looks nice, but its far from practical.
KEEP IT SIMPLE!! |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
816
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:36:00 -
[146] - Quote
+10
With all the thousands of broken things (POS UI, pos vs alliance usage too, obsolete LP store, clicktastic invention...) they had to impose us their AWESOME?.
Now, if this was an upgrade, ok. But it's like Neocom: loss of functionality with nothing to replace it.
No way to enable the old behavior as well, something we learned well both with neocom and overview patches.
Helloooo, USE cases exist for a reason. I want the balls of who made the use cases of this feature on a platter. It uses so much screen real estate it's dumb. Removing the tree views reduces real estate but wait, less features than the old system.
The new window is nice and snappy but makes trivial things a pain, expecially since it won't even save the status of the opened child windows.
In a game we don't need "UI pain".
Please keep the UI but also restore the old behavior as an option or just make the UI work. If I open a window I want it to remember to stay open AND remember its position.
We had this till this morning, we NEED this tomorrow. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
53
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:37:00 -
[147] - Quote
Well i have to agree with ya folks it looks all pretty but damn its a pain to navigate it right now. They should give us the option of having either one. not that hard since the data base never changed. just the appearance in how it is presented. so adding in a button in the Display options menu would be the best way to go. leave it up to the players to decide what they want.
If not roll it back to the old one |

Technosear
ZERO T0LERANCE RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:37:00 -
[148] - Quote
+1 change it back, or make the option to choose between old and new |

Neighbour
Persnickety Pilots
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:39:00 -
[149] - Quote
+1
Ctrl+z! |

Romar Agent
Ishukone Regional Headquarters
38
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:41:00 -
[150] - Quote
Okay, Shift-klicking lets you somehow simulate the former behaviour in ways of single windows. Memorized window-positions are a bit erratic still, but I guess I will figure out a way. I haven't checked what happens between undocking and docking, but I'll see.
And once you minimized the inventory menue on the left you actually have enough space to view the items. |
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Len Ross
Federal Trading and Transport
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:42:00 -
[151] - Quote
+1 but they won't listen |

5n4keyes
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
19
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:42:00 -
[152] - Quote
Inside of station, It wasnt too bad, thought ok, its not as easy to use, but hey it will probably grow on me.
Then I warped to a POS... After a few minutes of swearing, im to the point where using a POS is simply impossible... tha fudge CCP? |

Furiat
QRDELESH - Mutual Admiration Society
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:44:00 -
[153] - Quote
Whoever is responsible for this "feature" should return his salary. |

Descon
ZERO T0LERANCE RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:45:00 -
[154] - Quote
+1
Inferno looks pretty good. But this sucks |

Sirylis
The Galactic Explorations Company
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:45:00 -
[155] - Quote
CCP: Thank you all for your input. We will take it into consideration. -> "The players know s'''t. Let's go on with the plan. They will like it or they will weep and like it".
Taken from the book "CCP Customer Policy"... ;) |

Asura Kai
Khanid Astrogeology Consortium The Empiric Fleet Coalition
4
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:47:00 -
[156] - Quote
It get worse if you are in a POS with several labs, Guns and Corp hangar and array. All those module totally clutter up the inventories tree making scrolling for the right cargo hold or hangar a hassle.
Same thing when ur are dock in station. If you have alot of ships or multiple ship with same hull, navigating the trees is also a nightmare.
I say, Bring back the old UI for hangar.  |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
134
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:51:00 -
[157] - Quote
Sirylis wrote:CCP: Thank you all for your input. We will take it into consideration. -> "The players know s'''t. Let's go on with the plan. They will like it or they will weep and like it".
Taken from the book "CCP Customer Policy"... ;)
And the CSM is in full compliance with THAT program. Listen to that terrible EVERadio show from the weekend. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
6
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:52:00 -
[158] - Quote
Horrible, in all regards. I want old one back. Now. |

Kaiza Thurr
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:52:00 -
[159] - Quote
Its ccp's next step in their master plan to drive up the mineral prices (and thus plex prices), make it impossible for miners to actually mine.
Anyway back in game after this gets fixed o7 |

Ataxio
Creative Destruction Hashashin Cartel
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:53:00 -
[160] - Quote
I agree and endorse this thread, +1, bump, cool story (actually means it), willbeplayingsomedibalotillitsfixed, no seriously....change it back........Feel free to shut down the servers and make an emergency fail patch, this is quite warranted for a mistake of this caliber. |
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Seth Hierhin
Industrie und Handels Konsortium Tribunal Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:54:00 -
[161] - Quote
+1 |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
142
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:55:00 -
[162] - Quote
We'll all be willing to get some sun for a few DAYS even if it requires it. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Kisumii
Bio-Tech Research Luna Sanguinem
43
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:56:00 -
[163] - Quote
+1 posting for hate of anything new |

Lord Joshua
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar Apocalyptic Legion.
8
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:56:00 -
[164] - Quote
This new invintory is garbage, try doing something other than running missions in empire like messing with CHAS in a pos or moving stuff about in a rorq. Layout is crap , the way it works is crap , if you have a thousand ships in a ship hanger like me its a fraking nightmare . i now have to jump through hoops when im moving stuff around with 5 accounts up and speed is important
Its a big hassle this NEEDS to be looked into period. most of these guys giving praise must not do anything serious ingame because i know a few thousand people that are having issues with it. |

Cord Binchiette
Kzinti Hegemony
19
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:56:00 -
[165] - Quote
They should have tested the new inventory system first. It's unreal trying to manage loot. Please, bring back the old inventory. |

Kaiza Thurr
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:58:00 -
[166] - Quote
Kisumii wrote:+1 posting for hate of anything new
If you only are subbed to eve to troll ppl on the forums then yeah theres no need to hate the new system. |

Jim Bond
Knights of the Dark Rose Ordo Imperialis
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:01:00 -
[167] - Quote
+1 agree, or at least give me the option too.
Best "Workaround" Ive come up with so far is to "merge items and ships" (Escape and General Settings tab) with Station menu, and to enlarge the window so I can do what I have to do with less messing around. |

Rosa Rakete
DRUCKWELLE Evolution The Initiative.
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:03:00 -
[168] - Quote
+1
biggest **** i've ever seen. bring back the old one. as soon as possible! i need thousands of clicks where i need only 2 with the old system.
|

Sirylis
The Galactic Explorations Company
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:04:00 -
[169] - Quote
Jim Bond wrote:+1 agree, or at least give me the option too.
Best "Workaround" Ive come up with so far is to "merge items and ships" (Escape and General Settings tab) with Station menu, and to enlarge the window so I can do what I have to do with less messing around.
But, then again, it's a bandage. Not a cure. But if it works for you, then ok. |

Phaedra Stargazer
Rising Sun Inc.
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:07:00 -
[170] - Quote
+1
And make it so that the window positions and whether they're open or not are remembered. |
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Spice Weasel
Tranquil Edge of Insanity
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:08:00 -
[171] - Quote
Corporation hangars does not allow for a right click and Open in new window which I find I need to do almost every time to move items around and see what's happening. Instead it requires choosing one of the corp hangar groups and opening that one in a new window.
I now wind up with more open windows then I did before for inventory management. The stated goal of this change was supposed to reduce the number of open windows. For me it has the opposite effect.
How does the filter determine what goes on the Valuable Items list? It chose a single Gamma L valued at 130k ISK.
This is making inventory management more time consuming and require more effort. |

My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
48
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:09:00 -
[172] - Quote
+1
This new ui F*UCKED UP.
Old "inventory" was much, much better.
Miner: Maxed out miner needs 10 mins to fill his hulk. Now he needs 5 min to unload at station.
WTF CCP. |

Athena Valentina
Telum Exertus
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:10:00 -
[173] - Quote
I am really all for improvements, but this is just bad.
Simple tasks have become tedious.
+1 to OP bring back old buttons |

MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
701
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:10:00 -
[174] - Quote
yes, why did they remove them from the neocom?
Sure shift click opens a new window, but if there is no button on the neocom to shift click, that's silly. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |

Kisumii
Bio-Tech Research Luna Sanguinem
43
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:12:00 -
[175] - Quote
I cant understand why something that worked fine needed changing. Especially to something worse >.> |

Romar Agent
Ishukone Regional Headquarters
39
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:13:00 -
[176] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:... (Alekseyev Karrde even said about not liking a certain issue "Play another game." ...) Translation: shush CCP customer, get lost.
While I agree that companies don't need certain customers, most companies need every customer they can get.
A positive sign - CCP is doing well enough to be choosy. |

Galileo Ohaya
Tortuga Coalition 102
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:22:00 -
[177] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote:It made it live because when CCP asked for comments, 90% of the responses were "I like" in one form or another.
What I would like:
Window setups remember their setup, one for when docked, one for in space.
Any item in the tree can be dragged to the neocom and creates a button that opens up just that item window. The resulting button would only show on the neocom when you are in a location that allows you to open that item window.
+1
This would be great. I'm a miner and mission runner. Now I know that right away that means that CCP couldn't give a crap about my game play experience, but so be it.
As a miner, it is all about efficiency. I need to be able to dock up in station, transfer ore to the station hangar and undock as quickly as possible. This was easy before. My cargohold was always open in the lower left. I would dock, click, ctrl-A, drag to the Items hanger icon, and then click on the undock botton. Simple, smooth, easy, and fast.
So far, I have yet to figure out how to accomplish the same thing. I have to open the new items menu, shift-click either the ship's cargo bar or the station hanger, then open the other hanger, drag the ore, then close the mess that is on the screen and undock. It is ridiculous. Now, maybe I just haven't figured the new system out, but so far I'd say it sucks.
I do like some features ot the unified items, but it is simply unworkable as it is now. I dread to think what it will be like when it comes time to salvage a large mission.
|

Chip Flux
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
36
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:30:00 -
[178] - Quote
I will agree to almost anything to enable me to continue using the eve interface
TAKE IT AWAY |

Ridoc
Full Contact
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:32:00 -
[179] - Quote
I WANT MY CORPHANGAR AND ITEMS AND SHIPS BACK!!!!!! |

Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
169
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:33:00 -
[180] - Quote
Going to have to disagree on this one, absolutely fecking love the new system. I lied :o
|
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Calteis Industrica
McSpace
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:34:00 -
[181] - Quote
Totaly agree, bring the old System back! +10 |

Cysco
Outlaw Pilots Boese Onkels
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:34:00 -
[182] - Quote
please give us the items menu back!
i dont need this |

Namuthe
New Day Enterprises Boese Onkels
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:37:00 -
[183] - Quote
+1 signed |

Langbaobao
Tr0pa de elite. Against ALL Authorities
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:37:00 -
[184] - Quote
+5465452
FFS, give us the separate inventories back! |

White Liz
New Day Enterprises Boese Onkels
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:38:00 -
[185] - Quote
another signed!! |

Sven Ragnaroeg
Full Contact
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:38:00 -
[186] - Quote
I hate the new items menue, i want to gank it  Bring back the old! |

adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
82
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:38:00 -
[187] - Quote
needs MOAR pages |

Kaiza Thurr
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:39:00 -
[188] - Quote
Sven Ragnaroeg wrote:I hate the new items menue, i want to gank it 
if only i could find my ship and ammo to gank it with... |

Hack'Mett
McSpace
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:41:00 -
[189] - Quote
Kaiza Thurr wrote:Sven Ragnaroeg wrote:I hate the new items menue, i want to gank it  if only i could find my ship and ammo to gank it with...
Me too! KILL IT!!!
|

Baktun Skord
Full Contact
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:42:00 -
[190] - Quote
Ridoc wrote:I WANT MY CORPHANGAR AND ITEMS AND SHIPS BACK!!!!!!
SIGN!
Gank this ****! |
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ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
32
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:44:00 -
[191] - Quote
+1 although Tippa makes a good point on the first page. |

William Joseph Adama
Einstein Rosenbruecke Logistics
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:44:00 -
[192] - Quote
Dear Forum,
I have to disagree.
I really like the new system, but It is far from good. Especially the usability should be more accessable. |

MarKand
Aimonme Technology
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:46:00 -
[193] - Quote
Pretty please, bring it back, and please make it a feature were you can choose to use merged items-hangar-all or the old effecient way :)
But thanks for an awesome update!
/M
|

Vaedian GER
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:46:00 -
[194] - Quote
+ 10
Please bring back the old system. The new one is a really bad joke! |

Kaiza Thurr
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:46:00 -
[195] - Quote
William Joseph Adama wrote:Dear Forum,
I have to disagree.
I really like the new system, but It is far from good. Especially the usability should be more accessable.
Have you tried setting up a pos? Or mine with multiple accounts? Or fit 100 ships for corp ship replacement? Or compress minerals from a rorqual? You really should tbh...
|

Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1475
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:47:00 -
[196] - Quote
+10 internetz
Give us a ******* option to switch between the good old useful UI and this P.O.S
Infact.. burn this new crap with fire |

Galileo Ohaya
Tortuga Coalition 102
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:48:00 -
[197] - Quote
William Joseph Adama wrote:Dear Forum,
I have to disagree.
I really like the new system, but It is far from good. Especially the usability should be more accessable.
I just can't believe that any of the CCP folks that came up with this actually play the game. This is simply NOT workable. I don't mind change, and plenty of the changes CCP have made over the past 6 months have been great, but this is just stupid.
|

IWolfMasterI
Macabre Votum Against ALL Authorities
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:50:00 -
[198] - Quote
+1 I want to see the old UI back, don't fix what isn't broken. |

Jagoff Haverford
WISE OUTCASTS Eternal Evocations
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:51:00 -
[199] - Quote
Not only bring them back, but put the buttons back where they were on the Neocom toolbar.... down at the bottom near the "Undock" button when you are in station. |

SPYDERWOLF
Tr0pa de elite. Against ALL Authorities
7
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:53:00 -
[200] - Quote
HATE THIS !! change it back |
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Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:53:00 -
[201] - Quote
When you have your inventory pulled up
shift click the "items" and "ship" categories
It will put them back to the way they used to be. |

Satee Shan
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:54:00 -
[202] - Quote
Bring old system back. |

Kaiza Thurr
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:55:00 -
[203] - Quote
Zeus Maximo wrote:When you have your inventory pulled up
shift click the "items" and "ship" categories
It will put them back to the way they used to be.
Until you undock/dock or relog...then its all back in the same ****** way it is now.
edit: sniping page 11 in a soon to be epic threadnought |

Conner McManis
Tr0pa de elite. Against ALL Authorities
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:56:00 -
[204] - Quote
+1 bring old windows back, this is so terrible that I'm tempted to sign this petition with all of my alts |

Holy One
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
201
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:57:00 -
[205] - Quote
Erm. Ship name and group but ... not type. GENIUS.  |

Imodesky Kafelnikov
Tr0pa de elite. Against ALL Authorities
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:59:00 -
[206] - Quote
This is one of those things thats seems small but is a huge f@#$%@% hassle! Back to the old way please this way simply slows down 90% of what I do ingame. |

Pteradactyle
Khalsa State
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:00:00 -
[207] - Quote
+1 |

Beolor
Integral Conceptions Inc. Integral Concepts Alliance
5
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:01:00 -
[208] - Quote
Zeus Maximo wrote:When you have your inventory pulled up
shift click the "items" and "ship" categories
It will put them back to the way they used to be. Yes. And do it each f***g time, after you've docked. Sure. |

Captain' Jack Sparrow
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:02:00 -
[209] - Quote
The new inventory management system is terrible on so many levels. It is simply unbelievable that this managed to make it's way into the game.
Please bring back the old way. It was not broken.
Now, I must go to save one of my alts. He is threatening to pod-kill himself because he is at a POS in his Orca trying to start production and invention jobs, which requires having multiple windows open - and used to be a simple task.
|

Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
186
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:03:00 -
[210] - Quote
+1
I do like some of the new functionality, but why did they have to reduce other functionality to introduce it? |
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Di Mulle
64
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:05:00 -
[211] - Quote
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:+1
I do like some of the new functionality, but why did they have to reduce other functionality to introduce it?
The only explanation I saw from devs is that they strongly believe. Literally.
<<Insert some waste of screen space here>> |

WiLi19
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
4
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:07:00 -
[212] - Quote
+99 |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
39
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:07:00 -
[213] - Quote
Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again.
EDIT: Now having played a bit more, and me being a pirate. I like the new missile effects and the new killmails. Also the value shown of all items in a hangar is nice. But please also fix the above.
|

Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
37
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:09:00 -
[214] - Quote
For the love of god, just let me keep the ships window open and stay there every time I dock in a station. |

Speaker4 theDead
Phantom Squad Industry Nulli Tertius
4
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:09:00 -
[215] - Quote
+1
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Tyson Blake
Eve TNT
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:09:00 -
[216] - Quote
I hope this will be adressed in tomorrows downtime... |

EVE Player 41236
Dansk industri
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:10:00 -
[217] - Quote
+1 |

Mai Tzukaya
Albidus Corvus
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:13:00 -
[218] - Quote
Please give us our old inventory back !!!!! +1 The new one is horrible !!!!! |

ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
32
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:14:00 -
[219] - Quote
When looting cans in space I do not want to have the inventory open up so I can see what else I have. I want to put the loot in my hull. |

Malatha
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:14:00 -
[220] - Quote
I want my old buttons back.
|
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Bluebeard
LoneStar Industries Comatose Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:19:00 -
[221] - Quote
+1
As a long time industrialist, who has been playing for over 9 years, all i can say is.....
For the love of God, Please give us back the old UI.
It is currently unuseable |

Moemoeng
The Dutch Corporation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:19:00 -
[222] - Quote
+1 I agree, new inventory system isn't nice. |

C09
Rex Bravo
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:19:00 -
[223] - Quote
+1 |

Corbin Rencliff
Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:21:00 -
[224] - Quote
This also makes a simple task like dropping ore into a hangar a major, multi-click production. If they want this new system to be a part of the game then allow to also open multiple dedicated hangar/hold/bay windows which maintain their position. Even with time and practice this system will never be as efficient as having multiple windows. |

Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
694
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:21:00 -
[225] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:It's essentially unplayable until it is brought back. I literally can't play this game atm.
On a positive note: CCP have actually managed to surprise me. I thought they had passed their 'peak' with those turret icons! 14 |

Mastin Dragonfly
No Point of Dispute Point of Dispute
5
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:21:00 -
[226] - Quote
Sellendis wrote:Nice to see its all going along as we predicted. We raged on this issue on SiSi, CCP ignored us. Windows still cant remember crap of positions, Its slower and with worse visibility than the old inventory, but by all means, let push it to TQ.
How 3 weeks of negative feedback on new inventory UI didnt ring any bells to CCP? Simple, they dont care....as always. Half finished crappy product got pushed to live couse no DEV has balls to say it is bad.
It's sad, been playing online games for over a decade in different games. All those games had test servers, and every major update/upgrade resulted in this crap. Testers screaming it's not finished, gets pushed to live anyway so the entire population can suffer through it before it actually gets fixed... |

Ice Belt
Rex Bravo
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:21:00 -
[227] - Quote
+1 |

ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
46
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:24:00 -
[228] - Quote
Looks like the "merge ships & items" option in the ESC options menu has now become mandatory to deal with this "Space Explorer".
Better make it default before somebody blows a gasket or unsubs.
Jeez , even Microsoft had the brains to still leave the old folder window functionality alive when they went to win95. 
-1 to the UI team for not listening to the SISI thread 
+1 for this thread |

Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
16
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:24:00 -
[229] - Quote
Bluebeard wrote:+1
As a long time industrialist, who has been playing for over 9 years, all i can say is.....
For the love of God, Please give us back the old UI.
It is currently unuseable
+1,001 |

getyourgun
11percent
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:25:00 -
[230] - Quote
Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
.
+1
|
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Santi Rhina
Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:26:00 -
[231] - Quote
Yet another way to increase the price of minerals. Try mining with this system in place. I now have a ton of more clicks for each load of ore. May seem small but if every miner in New Eden is a bit slower then there is a large amount of ore not being mined.
Fail.....just fail. |

Anthar Thebess
REPUBLIKA ORLA Inver Brass
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:26:00 -
[232] - Quote
+1
Bring back old UI ... i hate my noctis now.
Click to open wreck Click loot all wait wait wait Wait WAIT!!! oh i see my ship cargo in the center of the screen open next wreck Loop
Why did you brake this? |

ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
32
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:26:00 -
[233] - Quote
I also love the fact my noctis alt currently has over 30 wrecks in his inventory with all of them saying nothing found... |

Hansemandse's Clone
Legion of Anarchy
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:27:00 -
[234] - Quote
+1 |

Agerian Yuces
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:32:00 -
[235] - Quote
+1
Pls give us the old Inventar back, or a button to switch to the old one (like captains quartier) |

Jo Sedu
Ad Astra Vexillum THE UNTHINKABLES
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:33:00 -
[236] - Quote
Yup the new inventory sucks.
Unloading the ship and corp hangar of my carrier was a nightmare.
No more opening the hangars by right clicking the carrier - want that back.
if I detach a certain section of the inventory it should stay detached next time I dock.
Actually forget it - just give us the old inventory system back. |

space gator
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
23
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:34:00 -
[237] - Quote
Agreed. |

Vern Aldin
Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:36:00 -
[238] - Quote
Has CCP learned nothing about the proper way to introduce major UI changes? Give the play the option to use the new system or maintain the old system. If it is good people will use the new system. If they do not use it, it is no good. Fix or scrap.
Why is summer expansion becoming equivalent to summer rage? |

bazzer666
The Pagan Parallel Guardians of Serenity
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:37:00 -
[239] - Quote
Bring it back! |

Jake McCord
Greater Metropolis Sanitation Service Barbarian Wine and Cheese Society
25
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:37:00 -
[240] - Quote
I have to agree, but only because I can't stay connected long enough to play the damn thing. They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way! Did I mention, I used to live in Chicago? |
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Rich Killson
Paratroopers Anaithnid
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:37:00 -
[241] - Quote
Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again.
I hate this new system !!! this will not work for me at all   
first post ever |

Pestka
REPUBLIKA ORLA Inver Brass
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:39:00 -
[242] - Quote
+1 |

Aska Jade
Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:40:00 -
[243] - Quote
Same here. First time ever posting but this will just not work. Sigh, you broke my game again. |

Myz Toyou
Bite Me inc Exhale.
100
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:41:00 -
[244] - Quote
Rich Killson wrote:Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
+ remove POS guns from inventory or make us able to hide them.
|

Leah Solo
State War Academy Caldari State
30
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:42:00 -
[245] - Quote
+1
The quick buttons for hangar and ships must get back. Even better solution would be to make the whole thing optional. |

Lexa Hellfury
Incura
47
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:44:00 -
[246] - Quote
CCP had nothing but negative feedback on the new inventory system while they were testing it on SiSi, yet decided to implement it anyways. Outstanding work, as always. |

GizmoKaka
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:46:00 -
[247] - Quote
Bad CCP! Bad!
I think im going to deactivate my 3 subscriptions till you fix it!  |

Comrade Commizzar
Eve Revolutionary Army
60
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:48:00 -
[248] - Quote
AGREED ! |

Gargep Farrow
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:48:00 -
[249] - Quote
Lets see, emptied my ship hangar to sort and sell the items I had recently looted. Instead of all the new items being at the bottom of my item hangar where I can quickly deal with them, this new peice of crap auto sorted them and now I have to go through hundreds of stacks to deal with the new items.
GET RID OF THIS NEW PEICE OF CRAP NOW!!!!!!!! |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3913
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:54:00 -
[250] - Quote
I quite like the new inventory thing, it's just a question of taking a few minutes to learn to use it and then it's just better
Much like the new font  Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
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Comrade Commizzar
Eve Revolutionary Army
60
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:55:00 -
[251] - Quote
I think we are here seeing proof of the fact that Icelanders really do drink more beer than the rest of us on the planet. Even the Germans playing EVE are suggesting CCP's UI design team dial it back a bit after this mess. |

Helena Lillith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:55:00 -
[252] - Quote
Is there a manual to this new feature?
Cause I am pretty sure if they had to write one before the feature gets released, this would not be here right now.
At least if the writer of the manual had some assets and tried to use this system while actually being in space, flying around |

Mogwhi
Bureau Of Mining Barges
6
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:56:00 -
[253] - Quote
I never actually realised how much I relied on the old UI, just took it for granted with having certain windows laids out in a set pattern for dragging dropping to make game play quick and smooth as possible. Now I have to keep opening, closing, double-double clicking to do stuff on multiple accounts. At this rate I am going to suffer with RSI in my fingers and wrist before the end of the week. |

ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
46
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:56:00 -
[254] - Quote
WHAT THE FRAK C C P ?!
You REMOVED the "merge ships & item with station" option in General Settings ?!? Smart. 
Guess you really didn-¦t learn ANYTHING from "the door".
So much facepalm. 
|

THUG Sco
Onyx Brotherhood The Irukandji
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:57:00 -
[255] - Quote
fix my bays and hangars you twats............................ |

Ivona Warp
EVIL BANK
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:57:00 -
[256] - Quote
Nice work CCP on completely in one move wreck mining with multiple acounts. I can understand with all this hateing the rich going on in the financial districts of our greater cities. You have found it wise to jump on the side that hates money and would like to see our beloved game fail to other games like Diablo 3 or World Of Failcraft. Although your enthusiasm to run this game into the ground may prove fruitfull one day on the open market like everyones favourite social network please do not let it be today. I was enjoying my little personal 6 acount mining ops where I would warp to my pos and dump my ore every 4-5 minutes with my iteron 5. Life was good and easy. Thank you for wrecking that for me.
ps. go **** yourself ccp |

Snoodaard Thrasy
Yulai Guard Fleet Yards Yulai Federation
4
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:01:00 -
[257] - Quote
Totally agree with the first post. Inventory system is bad bad bad. |

Comrade Commizzar
Eve Revolutionary Army
61
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:06:00 -
[258] - Quote
Miss Management wrote:+1
Tried to load some ammo and undocked with a cargo hold full of tampons and a coffee grinder.
******************
THIS MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD AND SPIT TEA ALL OVER MY MONITOR! |

Mersault
Blue Nine Industries
85
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:12:00 -
[259] - Quote
More awkward to use and looks worse to me too , it would work in Assets I think.
This Windows inventory system makes me feel like I am going through a file tree on the windows OS not very Internet Spaceships.
I don't want these windows, I want the places to open which were separate containers before which related to the separate places they represent before please not a big index linking all this stuff together , thank-you. |

Geezelbub
Barely Illegal
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:13:00 -
[260] - Quote
Well it seems they have stopped deleting negative posts about this horriffic, ludicrous, poorly planned and implemented change that wasn't asked for nor required. The deltion of those posts was a big reversion to the CCP of old and almost made me push the cancel my subscription button on all 5 of my accounts
So a HUGE plus 1 to the OP. My production lines and POS research are grinding to a halt, heck I don't even want to play this is so bad.
Do you folks who think this is good have any assets at all? Or do you just have folder fetishes? |
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Blev Oblix
Up2-NoGood Intrepid Crossing
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:13:00 -
[261] - Quote
Dear CCP,
Why do you do it? Why, whenever you issue a patch or an upgrade or something that you call an improvement to the game - you manage to feck it up.
Do you lack any sense of self-criticism? Are you frightened of upsetting all your 11 year old programmers? Are you afraid to admit that you are clueless and without any understanding of the game? Do you really believe that the new Inventory thing actually works, let alone be an improvement over the old system?
Do you really believe that missile trails are such an essential element of the game that you didn't bother checking whether they worked properly (I've tried and about a quarter of the time, they start way behind my ship). And do you think they're going to last long in fleet fights?
And all this was tested on another server before going live? I think the phrase is "You're having a laugh!"
It really wouldn't be so bad if this sort of crap was an isolated example but it happens every time. Well I'm sorry but I'm truly tired of it all. I used to love Eve but every change you've made over the last couple of years has been to the detriment of the game. It's been part of my life for many years but enough is enough. It is with some exhaustion that I've finally cancelled my remaining subscriptions.
And I find I'm relieved it's all over at last.
B
And no, you can't have my stuff. |

Scarlet Dynasty
Spacefreak Social Club Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:14:00 -
[262] - Quote
CCP don't make us come burn JITA again. FIX my cargo bays and inventory please. |

Evil Vile
HotRock Mining PLC Punch Drunk Lemmings
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:15:00 -
[263] - Quote
I did take the time to try this out on the test server to get use to it, but once it was applied to Tranq it just showed itself as being another problematic feature.
I use to always have my cargo hold open on every ship I flew, and now that's just not possible (well, not feasible that is). So, you press your item button, or Alt-C, and you get the parent window for everything. When right-clicking a container type in the tree on the left, I would choose "Open in New Window". Awesome! I can use it like I use to. Well, that's what I thought at least. Then I go out to do something, and when I get back into station, I realize that the new window I just made is now the new parent window. So I then have to expand that one to see the tree, and make new windows to fit my needs.
It would have at least been somewhat bearable if we could have made another window as a separate entity, not causing an issue with the real parent. Instead, if you want to live with another window, you have to do so much to really get what you want since the parent role seems to transfer to whatever is open.. gaaaahhhh.
In summary: Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing it go back to normal. |

Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
18
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:15:00 -
[264] - Quote
agree - bring back the old system.
sick of ths ****. I emailed CCP Guard and Unifex, warned of a **** storm, and haev been posting on the test server forums for the lat couple of weeks about this. I knew there was going to be bloody fury over this unwanted and unasked for 'feature'
Roll back the server now! |

Cedar Locus
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
36
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:17:00 -
[265] - Quote
posting here but like to see it stay, i actually like the new UI |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
660
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:17:00 -
[266] - Quote
Didnt think I would complain but yeah.. +1
Trying to sort out POS's is now a nightmare, naming silo's woudl help but we cant do that either :( Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
114
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:18:00 -
[267] - Quote
agree.
I'm amazed that CCP continued with the implementation and disregarded previous user concerns. |

Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
35
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:22:00 -
[268] - Quote
Why 'fix' something is not broken? Old system was very good, no need of this crap.
Example : I open cargohold, corporate hangar and ore hold on my orca, set windows in places then I dock. Surprise, all windows are now closed and have to go to that crap tree to open them again.
Get the old shite back and fire those who smoked too much weed. |

Reefer Girl
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:27:00 -
[269] - Quote
This game sucked before but now with the new inventory change it sucks even more.
inventory change when old system was working fine = many lost subsciptions
I know I will cancel my 7 accounts if this is not changed by the time the gtcs need to be payed.
|

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1433
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:28:00 -
[270] - Quote
Tippia wrote:I want them to build on the new system by letting us assign GÇ£root objectsGÇ¥ as specific windows.
Let me define a GǣstationGǥ inventory GǪ a GǣshipGǥ inventory window GǪ [and] a Gǣcargo canGǣ inventory GǪ
GǪand now let me actually make use of that much-vaunted NeoCom customisation to assign each of these root-object-inventories to a specific button (and as an added bonus, let me define a custom keyboard command for each such button). Then let each such window remember aaaaaaall of its settings: location, size, last seen content, default content, stacking, view modes, tree and filter expansions and settings and so on.
I'd also like to be able to simply drag containers to the Neocom. |
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Boomhaur
69
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:29:00 -
[271] - Quote
Chribba wrote:+1
Also put back the active ship in the hangar window please.
Do what Chribba says. Did you not learn from the whole walking in stations disaster CCP? Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |

Jame Jarl Retief
Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne
95
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:30:00 -
[272] - Quote
+1
Whoever dreamed up this new UI should be immediately directed to the nearest torture devise manufacturer. He has a bright future ahead of him there!  |

TheButcherPete
Specter Syndicate
193
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:31:00 -
[273] - Quote
The ability to double click my carrier and have the Cargo UI-tree come up instead of switching TO the carrier is my only whine. The new way would be the UI-tree with Cargo in the current view... so.... My moncole doubles as a cigarette lighter, a flashlight, a laser and x-ray goggles. If you haven't noticed yet, I'm in love with Punkturis. -á-á-á
|

InverseBlue
meadhan oidhche cinneach
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:32:00 -
[274] - Quote
yuup i agree also didnt c this post earlier hehe i also posted something similair :) |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
47
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:32:00 -
[275] - Quote
Sarah Schneider wrote:agree.
I'm amazed that CCP continued with the implementation and disregarded previous user concerns.
Not like if we were not used to how much they care of our opinion, right?
Some drinks make it easier to swallow  |

Araana
Dark 'N' Dragon's Mining Mayhem
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:41:00 -
[276] - Quote
Reefer Girl wrote:This game sucked before but now with the new inventory change it sucks even more.
inventory change when old system was working fine = many lost subsciptions
I know I will cancel my 7 accounts if this is not changed by the time the gtcs need to be payed.
If you have 7 accounts playing a game you think suck, your either insane or have some other serious issue with what to do with your life  |

Ugljesa
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:49:00 -
[277] - Quote
+1
Please return old buttons! |

Mindseamstress
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:50:00 -
[278] - Quote
Agree - don't see the point with the new inventory |

basic trador
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:51:00 -
[279] - Quote
+1
2 words...
JITA RIOT!!!! |

LANGOLIER S
Advanced Component Research Enterprise Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:53:00 -
[280] - Quote
+1 |
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DiCe69
Advanced Component Research Enterprise Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:57:00 -
[281] - Quote
+1 alright this **** aint funny no more, give us back our old inventory! |

Zane Ziebold
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 22:59:00 -
[282] - Quote
+1
Living in WH space is a pain now |

Sevy Shasha
Running with Knives Nexus Fleet
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:04:00 -
[283] - Quote
Unplayable.
I cannot tell which ship I am in from the ship menu. If I press make active on one rifter, it jumps into one and if I click the exact same rifter again and make active, I am magically in a different one, that occupied the same tile on the ship menu.
Revert back to old. Nobody wants this crappy UI. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
157
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:11:00 -
[284] - Quote
I'm not sure that what they are trying to do is......do-able with the purposes to which we use these Windows.
There is a HUGE difference in Cargo Windows and Ship Windows and Corp Hanger Windows.
But they ALLALL worked under the same, simple, maleable, dynamic mechanic. A PLAIN BOX.
This adds COMPLEXITY in the form of Trees and Dropdowns and unintuitive shift+clicks.
Even then we lose a good 1/4 inch of real estate with the value Bar at the bottom. THAT should be defeatable, as it is not really needed, and is not going to be accurate anyway for one's own current Region for sales. USELESS Feature if there ever was one.
(I don't want to hear about the 1/4 inch...............as the defenders of the dropped Overview Stargate parenthesis screamed about wanting their 5 microns of space). Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Sernum
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
16
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:15:00 -
[285] - Quote
+1 rest of the patch looks cool though! yarrr |

GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:15:00 -
[286] - Quote
My post has nothing to do with the stupid inventory directory panel that can be hidden. I'm going to wait before complaining about that one.
Here's the what and the why regarding the new being broken, as I see it.
First, the Settings options for these do not function at all.
http://i.imgur.com/61VQM.png
As an example...
http://i.imgur.com/3PjFh.jpg
I have my cargo open constantly. With every ship, everywhere, I always have my cargo open at the bottom right. Yesterday, all I'd have to do is click the button to open a wreck and my ship would fly over and open the wreck. The wreck would appear in the PINNED location it's always been in. Now, it overwrites my Cargo window unless I hold the shift key.
As a side note, if I hold shift while clicking the open-wreck button and then let go and my ship needs to approach before the loot window opens, my cargo window is STILL overwritten even though I used the shift key. This means I'll have to approach and THEN hold shift and THEN click the ****ing button to open the wreck.
Moving on, if I open anything -literally anything- without holding the shift key, the new container gets merged with my cargo window and I can't stop that from happening without holding the shift button every god**** ****ing time.
I cannot politely convey how frustratingly irritating this is.
Please fix it. For the love of god, PLEASE fix this... |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
160
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:19:00 -
[287] - Quote
GerminVermin wrote:MyMoving on, if I open anything -literally anything- without holding the shift key, the new container gets merged with my cargo window and I can't stop that from happening without holding the shift button every god**** ****ing time.
I cannot politely convey how frustratingly irritating this is.
Please fix it. For the love of god, PLEASE fix this...
Sounds to me like you ARE describing the Inventory Window. It IS yourCargohold too now. It is indeed confusing. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Gargep Farrow
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:26:00 -
[288] - Quote
Scarlet Dynasty wrote:CCP don't make us come burn JITA again. FIX my cargo bays and inventory please.
The devs loved The Burning of Jita so as a threat it is worthless. Now the burning of all the rookie systems............That would get their attention really fast. |

Galileo Ohaya
Tortuga Coalition 102
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:30:00 -
[289] - Quote
Zane Ziebold wrote:+1
Living in WH space is a pain now
Trying to accomplish anything is a pain now.
|

dogcity
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:32:00 -
[290] - Quote
Reset this inventory madness please. |
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GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:32:00 -
[291] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:GerminVermin wrote:MyMoving on, if I open anything -literally anything- without holding the shift key, the new container gets merged with my cargo window and I can't stop that from happening without holding the shift button every god**** ****ing time.
I cannot politely convey how frustratingly irritating this is.
Please fix it. For the love of god, PLEASE fix this... Sounds to me like you ARE describing the Inventory Window. It IS yourCargohold too now. It is indeed confusing.
You aren't paying attention. I specifically stated that I'm not complaining about or referring to the directory pane. Not sure if stupid or just trolling. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
161
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:33:00 -
[292] - Quote
Gargep Farrow wrote:Scarlet Dynasty wrote:CCP don't make us come burn JITA again. FIX my cargo bays and inventory please. The devs loved The Burning of Jita so as a threat it is worthless. Now the burning of all the rookie systems............That would get their attention really fast.
Maybe in a few days. Lets see what happens first.
But I'll be there if that is planned. Can't do anything real that I normally do ingame without it being a real hassle right now anyways. So illegal, naughty pew-pew sounds fun. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
161
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:34:00 -
[293] - Quote
GerminVermin wrote:Fabulousli Obvious wrote:GerminVermin wrote:MyMoving on, if I open anything -literally anything- without holding the shift key, the new container gets merged with my cargo window and I can't stop that from happening without holding the shift button every god**** ****ing time.
I cannot politely convey how frustratingly irritating this is.
Please fix it. For the love of god, PLEASE fix this... Sounds to me like you ARE describing the Inventory Window. It IS yourCargohold too now. It is indeed confusing. You aren't paying attention. I specifically stated that I'm not complaining about or referring to the directory pane. Not sure if stupid or just trolling.
Because you are describing the same things we are describing and we are describing the Inventory window.
Can someone explain this better than I ??
CCP: you have driven ALL to frustration and confusion about what is even what. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
149
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:36:00 -
[294] - Quote
i love the new inventory system, but I don't understand why the buttons would be removed that would basically be hotlinks to the proper page in your unified inventory.
Too many people are blowing this out of proportion, though. It's not hard to get used to, and its actually much more useful than 10 ******* windows open trying to remember what is what. We have a blog, it is terrible. How to fix Bounty Hunting |

Tenchi Sal
Dust Bunnies 514
49
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:39:00 -
[295] - Quote
new system is fine. theres always rabble when some thing changes in games. people need to learn to adapt and stop shedding tears. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
161
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:42:00 -
[296] - Quote
Burseg Sardaukar wrote:i love the new inventory system, but I don't understand why the
..........again....THEY NEVER REALLY SAY WHY . Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
996
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:42:00 -
[297] - Quote
I've said it for a while - mashing all inventory containers into a single window is a bad design choice.
There's a distinct difference between a location that is "stuff in my current ship" vs "stuff in my station hangar" vs "stuff that the corporation owns" vs "stuff in a can floating in space".
Mashing all of those different location types into a single window blurs the line between "what is mine and what is not mine". It will be confusing as hell to new players.
CCP had the right idea with the top level trees in the UI. They just need to break those top level trees out to separate windows by default and give us the *option* to add trees from other locations into a particular window. At a minimum this means there should be separate parent windows for:
- current ship - personal hangar stuff - personal ships stuff (with the option to merge this with the personal hangar stuff window) - corporation hangar - permanently anchored containers (POS labs/arrays/silos, jump bridges, secure containers, customs offices) - temporary containers (jetcans) - corp/ship hangars of other ships in the fleet
The current ship's cargo/inventory window should always be separate and remember its place by *ship type*. When you fly a freighter, you have different access needs to your cargo hold then you do when flying an orca, or a carrier, or a tackle frigate, or a cap-boosting battleship.
Permanently anchored containers should not show up in the "permanent anchored container" window until they are right-click and "opened". There's no need, when at a POS to see every single last container at the POS tower. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
161
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:42:00 -
[298] - Quote
Tenchi Sal wrote:new system is fine. theres always rabble
................and AGAIN. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Galileo Ohaya
Tortuga Coalition 102
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:43:00 -
[299] - Quote
I just cancelled by automatically renewing subscription for all three of my accounts. Love the game, but with the new inventory system anything I do is way too frustrating. I'm paid up until the beginning of July, if this isn't changed by then, I'll be gone. The game just isn't working for me as is.... |

Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
44
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:43:00 -
[300] - Quote
+3 Form main and two alts you have my vote! I dont know why CCP do this, maybe they love to troll us ? no idea ... same like they romove ship view in station long time ago, and after our rage they give us back ability to ship spining and ship view while docked in staton...
Hard times for games we really have to scream about our needs... |
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Galileo Ohaya
Tortuga Coalition 102
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:45:00 -
[301] - Quote
Tenchi Sal wrote:new system is fine. theres always rabble when some thing changes in games. people need to learn to adapt and stop shedding tears.
Then please explain how to use the new system in an efficient manner. |

Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
7
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:45:00 -
[302] - Quote
Mining into an orca is now a pain in the ass.
I managed to shift+click and get the windows open, I even managed to drag the ore hangar over the cargo hangar and make tabs like the old system... then I docked and undocked and everything reset.
So basically, the way this system is now, I have to shift+click, drag+drop and resize windows every single time.
Sure I could open one giant window for my corp hangar, and then drag into the Ore Hangar in the tree view, but HOW am I supposed to know if the ore hangar is full / getting close to full without opening a new window?
This new window is so frustrating, I ended up just closing the game, I'll try again later. |

Missile War
Vita Aequitas Veritas The Paganism Alliance
32
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:50:00 -
[303] - Quote
+1 |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
164
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Posted - 2012.05.22 23:50:00 -
[304] - Quote
Andoria Thara wrote:Mining into an orca is now a pain in the ass.
I can't even experiment with this as my Orca Toon went dark 2 nights ago. Thank god actually. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Grayson Gibbs
Capital Enrichment Services The Night Crew Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:52:00 -
[305] - Quote
Oh... dear sweet baby jesus. CCP, really? I mean, some of these ideas are really good... but this particular hangar change, in my opinion, is THE WORST think I think you guys have EVER done. I would rather fly a noob ship draped in hello kitty color scheme before having to deal with this silly crap. Please. I implore you, stop the madness.. because THIS might actually single handed ruin the game for me... and most of the people I play with.
WTF, Over. |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
142
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:53:00 -
[306] - Quote
+10 Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |

Samurai Pumpkin
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:57:00 -
[307] - Quote
I really like the changes.
Give it a chance. The old inventory system needed to be reworked.
In another thread in the test server forum I think that they said that this one is here to stay, and try to post constructive feedback on how to make this one better. |

Kaiza Thurr
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
4
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:59:00 -
[308] - Quote
Samurai Pumpkin wrote:I really like the changes.
Give it a chance. The old inventory system needed to be reworked.
It didn't needed any rework. At all.
|

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
164
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:59:00 -
[309] - Quote
Samurai Pumpkin wrote:I really like the changes.
Give it a chance. The old inventory system needed to be reworked.
repeat after me yet again...THEY NEVER NEVER SAY WHY.
It's almost comical. Who ARE these people. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
307
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:01:00 -
[310] - Quote
Agreed, this new inventory should have never made it as far as the test server and certainly not the live server.
....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced. |
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GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:02:00 -
[311] - Quote
Burseg Sardaukar wrote:i love the new inventory system, but I don't understand why the buttons would be removed that would basically be hotlinks to the proper page in your unified inventory.
Too many people are blowing this out of proportion, though. It's not hard to get used to, and its actually much more useful than 10 ******* windows open trying to remember what is what.
For those of us who have ample brain capacity, it is easily possible to keep track of what things are. Especially when they're labeled.
Just because you don't play the game the same way we do doesn't mean our method isn't valid or important or worth defending. |

GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:03:00 -
[312] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Because you are describing the same things we are describing and we are describing the Inventory window.
Can someone explain this better than I ??
CCP: you have driven ALL to frustration and confusion about what is even what.
I don't understand why you're even bothering to reply to my messages. You're obviously trolling. |

Pall Mallz
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:05:00 -
[313] - Quote
not reading this forum but holy cripes i miss the old system so bad this new one is clunky and inefficient on so many levels
so regards to OP, i was about to make this same thread -SIGNED x10 |

Sevy Shasha
Running with Knives Nexus Fleet
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:06:00 -
[314] - Quote
Samurai Pumpkin wrote:I really like the changes.
Give it a chance. The old inventory system needed to be reworked.
In another thread in the test server forum I think that they said that this one is here to stay, and try to post constructive feedback on how to make this one better.
CCP alt |

Kern Aj
PastaBake Conquerors of Coffee
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:09:00 -
[315] - Quote
The old system was elegant in it's simplicity - if it aint broke, don't screw (or anyother verb) with it. |

Svjatosha
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:10:00 -
[316] - Quote
+1 |

Geezelbub
Barely Illegal
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:11:00 -
[317] - Quote
Samurai Pumpkin wrote:I really like the changes.
In another thread in the test server forum I think that they said that this one is here to stay, and try to post constructive feedback on how to make this one better.
If it is here to stay than myself and my 4 other accounts are not. All my accounts are due for another 3 month payment in late June. This is a hugely cumbersome, clumsy inventory system made for people who have little in the way of assets, no corp hangers and certainly no POS.
AND like the other guy has said numerous times, you folks who like it so much tell us how it works so well for you in
A. Mining B Salvaging C. Corporate asset manipulation D. POS work
You fan folks are obviously alot smarter than I, so show me how u do it please? |

Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
45
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:15:00 -
[318] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:It's essentially unplayable until it is brought back.
This! |

Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
8
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:15:00 -
[319] - Quote
Samurai Pumpkin wrote:I really like the changes.
I'm guessing you use the tree view in windows explorer for sorting files as well?
I, like many others, prefer opening multiple windows, and I like those windows to save their current positions and states accordingly.
There's a reason why MS gave us both options, not sure why CCP can't figure that part out. |

Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
96
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:17:00 -
[320] - Quote
Noone likes it. What I can't figure out is how did this happen? Did not CCP read the feedback? Were there not those in CCP who looked at it and said this is borked? Who was it at CCP that ignored all the complaints, suggestions, input and feedback, seriously? I mean it, I am curious. Was it one person that noone could get past, or was it a collective cabal of fools who brought us this fischemelled mess of an interface?They can't all be idiots, can they??
Fix. Soon . Pls. |
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Shizah
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:17:00 -
[321] - Quote
OMG CCP, what did you do! It was the one thing in Eve that worked reliably well!! |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
166
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:18:00 -
[322] - Quote
GerminVermin wrote:Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Because you are describing the same things we are describing and we are describing the Inventory window.
Can someone explain this better than I ??
CCP: you have driven ALL to frustration and confusion about what is even what. I don't understand why you're even bothering to reply to my messages. You're obviously trolling.
No i'm not. Just nvm. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
166
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:20:00 -
[323] - Quote
Actually, now that I think about it, historically the Vikings did a really good job of pushing their agenda on other cultures without so much as a by-your-leave. Can this behavior be passed down ? Thoughts ?  Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Caltharian
0beron Construct Tribal Dragons
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:21:00 -
[324] - Quote
+1 i think the new inventory system interface should be ported over to assets and the invetory interface put back to how it was |

Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
96
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:24:00 -
[325] - Quote
Andoria Thara wrote:Samurai Pumpkin wrote:I really like the changes.
I'm guessing you use the tree view in windows explorer for sorting files as well? I, like many others, prefer opening multiple windows, and I like those windows to save their current positions and states accordingly. There's a reason why MS gave us both options, not sure why CCP can't figure that part out.
Hooray for you, Winner winner chicken dinner ,we have a winner!!! Somebody get's it, thank you. |

Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
96
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:27:00 -
[326] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Actually, now that I think about it, historically the Vikings did a really good job of pushing their agenda on other cultures without so much as a by-your-leave. Can this behavior be passed down ? Thoughts ?  I am all over that....
Be thankful they no longer have Longboats... |

qlko1
Zaklad Utylizacji Odpadow
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:30:00 -
[327] - Quote
I'm not screaming GIVE IT BACK! CCP make new changes optional
Hmm... why m'I postig this? CCP doesn't take care about players opinion since 2003, so why should they take care right now? |

No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
201
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:30:00 -
[328] - Quote
All items/ships are terrible as it is presently. Change it back please. . |

Yashiri
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:33:00 -
[329] - Quote
+1 a loss of functionality is never a step forward. |

Becky Worley
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:37:00 -
[330] - Quote
Stinks. Fix it. |
|

GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:39:00 -
[331] - Quote
Caltharian wrote:+1 i think the new inventory system interface should be ported over to assets and the invetory interface put back to how it was
That's an excellent pair of ideas.  |

Zoboto
Black Rock City Corp.
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:40:00 -
[332] - Quote
+1 |

Prisoner 002929
Wulgun Wing
7
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:42:00 -
[333] - Quote
The problem with needing Windows Explorer Eve Edition is that I actually have to be able to do things to accumulate the items it's meant to help me sort. That's a much more difficult task today. I want a disable button. I asked for it back when this was first revealed. You can re-write the current system to make it more useable, but I want the old UI back until it's finished. |

Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
267
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:46:00 -
[334] - Quote
+1 New window tree bad. Old window system good.
For all the reasons stated.
Nothing clever at this time. |

Loreael
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
12
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:47:00 -
[335] - Quote
Hmm, i'll have to go on record to disagree with all of you and say that i absolutely love the new system, it's made my life much easier. |

qlko1
Zaklad Utylizacji Odpadow
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:49:00 -
[336] - Quote
Loreael wrote:Hmm, i'll have to go on record to disagree with all of you and say that i absolutely love the new system, it's made my life much easier.
Problably coz u re a miner. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
820
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:50:00 -
[337] - Quote
I have now done POS operations, missions looting, and 5 minutes of mining.
The more I use this UI the more I despise it.
This had to be designed by a relative of the idiot who invented tree view for Windows Explorer but with the added handicap of not having provided backwards compatibility to a system that worked just better.
Yes it looked less slick, less "concept" but it WORKED and fast. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Tiannai
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:51:00 -
[338] - Quote
+1
Docked and checking out the new inventory interface, meh, something new to deal with and figure out some workarounds.
Flying an ship in space, this is so poor on so many levels.
Who said this was a go?  |

AFK Hauler
State War Academy Caldari State
99
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:51:00 -
[339] - Quote
Lets go ahead and pick out the monument we will all rage over to show CCP we're serious....
Then we'll pick the date. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
166
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:54:00 -
[340] - Quote
Loreael wrote:Hmm, i'll have to go on record to disagree with all of you and say that i absolutely love the new system, it's made my life much easier.
again..........THEY NEVER SAY WHY Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
|

Mictlantecuhtli
Titans of Doom IMPERIAL LEGI0N
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:55:00 -
[341] - Quote
+1 |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
167
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 00:55:00 -
[342] - Quote
qlko1 wrote:Loreael wrote:Hmm, i'll have to go on record to disagree with all of you and say that i absolutely love the new system, it's made my life much easier. Problably coz u re a miner.
That's an idiotic response. Really it is.
The truth is closer to he doees not even play. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Aoki Kenzo
State War Academy Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 01:00:00 -
[343] - Quote
The new inventory system is so horrible I just want to cry. |

GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 01:02:00 -
[344] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:qlko1 wrote:Loreael wrote:Hmm, i'll have to go on record to disagree with all of you and say that i absolutely love the new system, it's made my life much easier. Problably coz u re a miner. That's an idiotic response. Really it is. The truth is closer to he doees not even play.
That's an idiotic response. Really it is.
The truth is that if you're not going to focus on the point of this thread, don't post. Don't insult each other, don't argue with each other. Trying to get Eve players to unify and cooperate is like herding cats, but we can do it. Stop thread crapping. |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
41
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 01:04:00 -
[345] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:It made it live because when CCP asked for comments, 90% of the responses were "I like" in one form or another. Let's qualify that statement a bitGǪ It made it live because they asked for comments on the blog and 90% of the responses were GǣI likeGǥ (me included)GǪ until it actually became available for testing and people started to list the litany of issues it had. But they aren't all that well poised to deal with actual test feedback. 
|

Grayson Gibbs
Capital Enrichment Services The Night Crew Alliance
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 01:11:00 -
[346] - Quote
Also: Why, in the christ, does the client use twice as much memory!? It is now, impossible for me to run two accounts at the same time. ONE session of the client, uses 71 percent of my available memory.
Before anyone else tells me to drop more money into my computer, I will go ahead and tell you to eat a **** now. ;) |

Loreael
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
12
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 01:14:00 -
[347] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:qlko1 wrote:Loreael wrote:Hmm, i'll have to go on record to disagree with all of you and say that i absolutely love the new system, it's made my life much easier. Problably coz u re a miner. That's an idiotic response. Really it is. The truth is closer to he doees not even play.
Actually i play quite often with several toons, i love the fact that the new interface gives me an instant view of everything currently accessible. It's even made my POS management easier.
I was a little surprised by the new UI, and a little pissed off at first, until i took a few minutes to figure it out and see how it would benefit me rather than raging about it on the forums.
I'm sure there are going to be issues that i come up against, but so far the benefit far outweighs any drawbacks.
|

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
168
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 01:21:00 -
[348] - Quote
GerminVermin wrote:
The truth is that if you're not going to focus on the point of this thread, don't post. Don't insult each other, don't argue with each other. Trying to get Eve players to unify and cooperate is like herding cats, but we can do it. Stop thread crapping.
  but he started it    Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
168
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 01:23:00 -
[349] - Quote
Loreael wrote:
I'm sure there are going to be issues that i come up against, but so far the benefit far outweighs any drawbacks.
And how do you feel about the windows you arrange for In-Station use (God I hope you DO) and their behavior upon redocking ? Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Loreael
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
12
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 01:24:00 -
[350] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Loreael wrote:
I'm sure there are going to be issues that i come up against, but so far the benefit far outweighs any drawbacks.
And how do you feel about the windows you arrange for In-Station use (God I hope you DO) and their behavior upon redocking ?
ok, that's definitely on the list of drawbacks lol |
|

Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
88
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 01:37:00 -
[351] - Quote
So before the patch I could just have an alt drop their PI goods into a corp hanger... ooh but wait now my alt can't even access the hanger to deposit goods.
Ironic that the "Unrent office" still has a button but we can't actually open the office from there. I don't make minerals. I just make ore 20% cooler. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
168
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 01:42:00 -
[352] - Quote
Pinstar Colton wrote:So before the patch I could just have an alt drop their PI goods into a corp hanger... ooh but wait now my alt can't even access the hanger to deposit goods.
Ironic that the "Unrent office" still has a button but we can't actually open the office from there.
(Serious face) Wait, your alts in the same Corp have no Corp Hanger access ? Or am I missing something ??? Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Zektyn
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 02:07:00 -
[353] - Quote
please please please yes, this inventory is stupid, no one wants this |

Drunken Bum
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
21
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 02:23:00 -
[354] - Quote
+1. I always thought we had the best dope here in BC canada. What are the icelanders smoking? I'm gonna have to go over there and find out some day. |

Phenethylamine
Nex quod Principatus SRS.
10
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 02:35:00 -
[355] - Quote
I don't mind the new inventory, but I really wish that if CCP had no ******* clue how to make inventory windows load in less than 30 seconds, that they didn't take away my god damned cached inventory and replace it by "30 SECONDS EVERY TIME YOU OPEN THE WINDOW, **** YOU PLAYERS LOL" |

Raven God
Texas Inc. THE SPACE P0LICE
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 02:36:00 -
[356] - Quote
+1 |

Ro' LoPok
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 02:37:00 -
[357] - Quote
+1 |

Almagar Phog
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 02:38:00 -
[358] - Quote
New inventory sucks, really it does. Change it back.
Untill it is, CCP is off my Xmas card list. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
773
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 02:40:00 -
[359] - Quote
The only plus side to the new system is that it is all in one place. However, that is also a downside because of every reason that was listed in the initial Feedback area, which CCP simply ignored. |

Veronica Chronic
Rush Clan
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 02:42:00 -
[360] - Quote
+1 |
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Zoboto
Black Rock City Corp.
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 02:49:00 -
[361] - Quote
+2 OP
Upon further use of this inventory system, I must concur, this is very bad.
CCP -
1. This new complexity is less intuitive and seems to capitalize upon prior your mistakes (not a good thing). 2. Multiple windows are very useful and very intuitive. 3. More clicking is not good. 4. Read the thread, it has all mostly been stated and laid out clearly, why this is an issue, how to fix etc.
|

Johnny Fero
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 02:58:00 -
[362] - Quote
supported
Also hate looting wrecks now. Ridiculous mess as you loot 30 ships with the new system |

Kobal81
Awesome Corp
14
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:07:00 -
[363] - Quote
+10 |

Sharon Tate
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
8
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:14:00 -
[364] - Quote
Windows Explorer is one of the worst user interfaces in the world, reviled by pretty much everyone that has ever used it.
And you decided to mimic it for the inventory user interface.
This has to be the stupidest UI decision in EVE, which has a litany of user interface "Do Nots", and somehow this atrocity is the worst offender.
Improve it? How about:
- Have it remember when I open multiple ones, and the state I leave them in.
- For the love of baby jebus, alphabetize things in the tree.
- For the love of baby jebus and kittens (cute) give me a way to manage the tree when I have a billion things that go in the tree (like you might see in corp hangar).
- Have buttons that are supposed to bring up specific inventory bring that up. If I click the "ship cargo hold", bring just that up in a new window, if I open a can, just bring that up. Yes, leave the tree, but close it unless I want to go look at it
- When I click on a container in my inventory, open it (or give me option to0 in a new window. It's impossible right now to drag things from a container to my ship cargo hold. Seriously. I can't figure out how to do it.
- If you're gonna mimic Windows Explorer, at least make this piece of **** as functional as Windows Explorer
Also: move corp/deliveries out. The inventory system is absolutely awful for managing this in it's current form, or at least have a separate way of doing this. I haven't even tried to go into a scap or carrier cargohold yet, and I'm afraid to. |

Javajunky
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
23
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:17:00 -
[365] - Quote
+1 roll unified invetnory back and for the love of god, don't assume everyone has time to be on sisi, we have real lives to live.
DONT INSTALL AN MASSIVE UI OVERALL LIKE THIS UNLESS ITS TOTALLY AN OPTION...(ON/OFF SWITCH)
now it's 4 months of misery while you guys unfluck some code |

Billy Bob Hatfield
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:40:00 -
[366] - Quote
Let me throw another +1 on the fire. For the love of god roll this "feature" back. |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
1333
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:43:00 -
[367] - Quote
Typical CCP hot air, breaking something to make it look like they accomplished something. Time to change my signature back to something negative about CCP. Crap expansion from people without a clue. -1 CCP has rededicated themselves to improving Eve and are by and large doing a terrific job at it. My personal faith in them is largely restored. I think the coming changes will revitalize Eve and bring joy to the masses. |

Sup B1tches
Quovis CORE Alliance
46
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:45:00 -
[368] - Quote
^^^ |

ice semple
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:45:00 -
[369] - Quote
+ 1 |

Lili Lu
230
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:47:00 -
[370] - Quote
+1
The "unified inventory" is buggy and not an improvement on the old methods of keeping track of things. Session changes make the stupid thing appear. It is cumbersome and flawed.
Scrap it and start over. Or better yet just leave it alone and allocate the dev resources to fixing things that need fixing. |
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Republic Citizen
6
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:50:00 -
[371] - Quote
+1 Never publish your kills/losses, it's nothing more than a useful information for your enemies.
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Erudius
5
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:54:00 -
[372] - Quote
Agreed
+1
...until the oompa loompas fix it
ESC - General Settings Look in the middle section for the Check Box
"Merge Items & Ships into Station Panel" http://youtu.be/PY8fjFKAC5k |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
485
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:58:00 -
[373] - Quote
Drunken Bum wrote:+1. I always thought we had the best dope here in BC canada. What are the icelanders smoking? I'm gonna have to go over there and find out some day.
Something like rotten shark. Catch fish, put fish in can, wait till can starts to expand from rotting gasses, open can (close nose), eat what's left of the fish.
But yeah, why does CCP let people frak around, with very essential game mechanics, who have obviously NO CLUE how to play the game?
Edit: +1 from me too. Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |

Lyona Barton
Barton Technologies
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 03:58:00 -
[374] - Quote
+1
Don't get me wrong, this was a good idea in dream world... while exploding in the mind of some CCP Dev how ever long ago it happened. And yeah .. its kinda neat to be able to sort out ammo... and if i could .. modules by slot type... but COME ON CPP!!!!! This new system has me digging around for longer through an interface that combines all my inventories through one screen than 20 on my screen prior to patch. I LIKED and LOVED how i could open multitudes of windows to see all my stuff. IT IS nice to have an inventory system... PERHAPS >>>>> this should have been an upgrade in reguard to the ASSET menu... instead of FORCING me to use this very over complicated interface to do once SIMPLE tasks. EITHER take it out .. or give me the option to turn this off... I just got back into playing eve again and i was REALLY excited to see some awsome missle effects ... but this is just plain ignorance if you get all this EN-MASS player response to NOT put this feature in....
Come on CCP ... FIX THIS +1 to removal |

Xeln Quuzg
The Unknown Bar and Pub
3
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Posted - 2012.05.23 04:01:00 -
[375] - Quote
i'll just leave this here for ccp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1477
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 04:11:00 -
[376] - Quote
AFK Hauler wrote:Lets go ahead and pick out the monument we will all rage over to show CCP we're serious....
Then we'll pick the date.
To the statues! |

Zool Turican
Risen from Ashes
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 04:21:00 -
[377] - Quote
big sign
the new inventory is terrible
give player a classic option for old windows / inventory |

MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
711
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 04:24:00 -
[378] - Quote
Sharon Tate wrote:Windows Explorer is one of the worst user interfaces in the world, reviled by pretty much everyone that has ever used it. And you decided to mimic it for the inventory user interface. This has to be the stupidest UI decision in EVE, which has a litany of user interface "Do Nots", and somehow this atrocity is the worst offender. Improve it? How about:
- Have it remember when I open multiple ones, and the state I leave them in.
- For the love of baby jebus, alphabetize things in the tree.
- For the love of baby jebus and kittens (cute) give me a way to manage the tree when I have a billion things that go in the tree (like you might see in corp hangar).
- Have buttons that are supposed to bring up specific inventory bring that up. If I click the "ship cargo hold", bring just that up in a new window, if I open a can, just bring that up. Yes, leave the tree, but close it unless I want to go look at it
- When I click on a container in my inventory, open it (or give me option to0 in a new window. It's impossible right now to drag things from a container to my ship cargo hold. Seriously. I can't figure out how to do it.
- If you're gonna mimic Windows Explorer, at least make this piece of **** as functional as Windows Explorer
Also: move corp/deliveries out. The inventory system is absolutely awful for managing this in it's current form, or at least have a separate way of doing this. I haven't even tried to go into a scap or carrier cargohold yet, and I'm afraid to.
this this this Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |

Geodeath
Fist of God
25
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Posted - 2012.05.23 04:35:00 -
[379] - Quote
+ ******* 1! I hate, loathe, despise, this new inventory system. It is like masturbating with razors to even loot selectively. Rollback to what we had before. |

Gal Fed
Identifiable Characters Corporation
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 04:46:00 -
[380] - Quote
I agree!
Also, if I have the inventory panel open, and I click on my ships cargo, who on earth thought it would be a good idea to have my inventory close??? |
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MindLife
7
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Posted - 2012.05.23 05:30:00 -
[381] - Quote
+1
Remove this inventory crap and bring back the good old buttons to open the "Ship Hangar" , "Item Hangar" and "Corp Hangar"..
This is probably one of the worst things ever... Dont steal my coffee !! |

Timbuck V
Confrerie de la Lumiere Confrerie de la Lumiere Alliance
6
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Posted - 2012.05.23 05:32:00 -
[382] - Quote
Gal Fed wrote: Also, if I have the inventory panel open, and I click on my ships cargo, who on earth thought it would be a good idea to have my inventory close???
+1
Please make it optionnal like the CQ. Even with the Shift-clic the new inventory is time consuming, nerves breacker , a real pain !! |

Yugo Reventlov
Sicarius. When Hippos Attack
4
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 05:36:00 -
[383] - Quote
My issues with the new inventory:
- We need more clicks to reach the same container than we did before (my ships hangar for example) - It's scary that my active ship is not shown in my ship hangar. Why did you change this? Is there a reason for it? Is it no longer in my hangar when i'm sitting in it? - Looting several wrecks in space (e.g. cleaning up after a mission) is a real pain and way too slow. Why does it open my ship's cargohold after I clicked "loot all"?
PS: i do enjoy hovering over everything i'm looting to see how much it's worth. Although I'm still not sure how accurate it is :) |

Shadow51585
Legio Geminatus Gentlemen's Agreement
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 05:41:00 -
[384] - Quote
The former inventory system did not need to be changed. It was easy to use and very practical before this emormously overcomplicated UI was created.
For me, the game is essentially unpayable in this state and I honestly don't feel like logging in and playing with this rediculous inventory control in place.
We need our corporate and personal hangers back they way they were. Not to mention our cargo and drone bays for our ships. Please get rid of this massive clusterfuck of an inventory control system.
I love what has happened to EVE recently. The missiles, turrets, and bomber redesigns to name a few things are awesome. But if this piace of garbage inventory control system remains in its current state, it is honestly a dealbreaker. How can I play a game without being able to control the functions of it in an intelligent manner? |

Night Master
ANZAC ALLIANCE Executive Outcomes
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 05:42:00 -
[385] - Quote
Did you guys give any thought to the new hangar items menu because it just plain sucks, try unloading silos in space and using the corporate hangar and fuel bays please bring back the old system and where the hell is my ship hangar button |

Aron Fox
Tranquillian Imperial Navy Tranquillian Empire
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 05:43:00 -
[386] - Quote
I dont only want that back i want all back |

Lord Jeprox
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 05:48:00 -
[387] - Quote
Can u plsss kick out who ever design this CRAP Patch |

Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 05:53:00 -
[388] - Quote
You guys are all thinking linear move outside of the box and think a bit. This is a great first step but it is not finished. We need the ability to create and store auto features as a clickable link. Like we do for drone wings now. You create a name and assign a number of drones to the wing. That name becomes a clickable link that will launch all the drones assinged to it in one click.
Can you see how this would work in the inventory UI? For example name a function unload ore. Then assign to that function the ability to select all ore in the active ships cargo bay and move it to the hanger bay. Store it as a clickable link. Then when you dock up one click on this named clickable link does this function for you. Just like launching a wing of drones. Some error checking needs to be installed with these functions but it can be done. Like to make sure you are docked up so you do not dump all your ore into space.
Another function I would like is to unload all cargo from a wreck into my cargo bay. Target the wreck one click on the function and its done. Again error checking to ask if you want to load contraband if there is any on the wreck.
Programming into the UI so that we can create auto functions assigned to any name you can think of to do all sorts of one click functions. It would be the end goal of the new inventory UI and would make it very usefull for all of us.
This ability does not exsist now but I would hope CCP would add it asap if we all asked for it. |

Aelita
CHON THE R0NIN
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 05:54:00 -
[389] - Quote
I want separate window for my active ship cargo. In space that new asset windo taking so much space, and if I do resize it to size of my old cargo window then I can't use it anymore in station where I need big window. When I work on POS new Asset window is pain in ass. Why to hel asset windo has two lines in footer? New asset window has too much big footprint to show additional infos. Important is content not sidekick infos.
I would like to keep cargo of my active ship always open no matter of dock/undock and in both cases on same place with same size. |

Challu
Wishful Desires Inc. Armada Assail
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 05:59:00 -
[390] - Quote
OP +1
Please fix this Inventory sna-fu... |
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Numance
Sacred Templar Knights ROL.Citizens
6
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 06:00:00 -
[391] - Quote
the new invotory UI is nice but yes having the hangar + ship icon back would be even better
+1 |

Amma Pendron
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 06:00:00 -
[392] - Quote
Plz change it
Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back: - Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again. EDIT: Now having played a bit more, and me being a pirate. I like the new missile effects and the new killmails. Also the value shown of all items in a hangar is nice. But please also fix the above. EDIT 2: Some other told you so before ... Yet they went ahead with the change.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104539&find=unreadCCP we also like to have multiple windows open that don't reset with a session change. People find it difficult to mine, run missions, browse pos inventory. And I havent touched yet the subject where you multibox, where u preset your screen for a specific task. And then the inventory resets itself each time, making it a pain to multibox.
|

Prof Fate
Fate Corporation Etherial Technologies Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 06:01:00 -
[393] - Quote
Please return the ship/item/corp hangar buttons. The new inventory management system is beyond tedious to work with. |

Tyler McVain
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 06:01:00 -
[394] - Quote
Old System +1 |

TomtheHunter
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 06:05:00 -
[395] - Quote
after little test, ; I also want the old icon /ship-menues back +1 |

Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
19
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 06:21:00 -
[396] - Quote
agree, bring back the old system - and fire the tard that made the new one happen |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
56
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 06:26:00 -
[397] - Quote
I had been trying to tell them, that the only reason everyone was so posi, was that in the dev blog it looks great. The new features are great, its all the undocumented removal of function that has everyone pissed. Its not rocket surgery here boys  |

Allko
Zero Tax services
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 06:27:00 -
[398] - Quote
And I thought I was the only one who feels that way about the new UI  It would of been enought if CCP had done these kind of changes to the main inventory, you know... the one that shows all Your stuff in the EVE universe... but nooo "LETS INVENT A HEXAGON WHEEL" The new missile effects are nice but that will not metter after CCP nerf the hell out of them with the tracking disruption BS
|

Hiryu Jin
noXCorp Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
22
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 06:36:00 -
[399] - Quote
Maraner wrote:agree, bring back the old system - and fire the tard that made the new one happen +1 |

Cutter Isaacson
Peace n Quiet
134
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 06:40:00 -
[400] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Skorpynekomimi wrote:Yes! Bring back the easy access! Tried to load ammo into a ship, but ended up sticking it into the ship I arrived in. Something similar happened to me last night South of Market Street, but that's for a different thread........
Just wondering if you realise the irony of someone like you, having a signature like that?
|
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snakeyes Kassandra
Project Stealth Squad Initiative Mercenaries
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:04:00 -
[401] - Quote
+1 |

Josef Djugashvilis
205
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:07:00 -
[402] - Quote
Improvementa are good, so far it does not seem to be an improvement.
Perhaps when the inventory system is tweaked it may be better. You want fries with that? |

Balder Verdandi
Czerka. The Methodical Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:26:00 -
[403] - Quote
This inventory system is the most horrible part of the patch.
Mining operations: If you've ever held a mining op with jet-cans pulled by a Rorqual or Orca, or dumping directly into the cargo bay on an Orca, or dumping from an Orca into a Rorqual, where they were once easy, are now incredibly painful. You really need multiple windows for doing these operations and its obvious that whomever came up with this design hasn't spent hours in a belt or mining out the ABC's of an anom.
Looting wrecks: This should be super easy with two clicks (open cargo, loot all button) but it's now just madness. I don't want to open an inventory control system (and wait for it to load) while looting wrecks. All I need to see is the cargo hold of the wreck that I'm looting, not everything I have in system. This not only applies to belt ratting, but running a Noctis through a plex to get all the goodies and T2 salvage. And no, I don't want to fill my screen with stuff I don't need to see while running a salvage op.
Corp Hangars: Moving things like blueprints in/out of a corp hangar to use the corp lab are painful. There is no reason why I need to open my entire inventory, then open (shift+click) on the corp hangar, then open (another shift+click) the container with my blueprints, and then struggle with now open containers/corp hangar that will reset their size every session change because they are now hidden behind a single massive inventory control panel.
Session Resets: When I open my cargo hold, drone bay, station container, anchored container, Corp Hangar, or my friend's corp bay in his Orca, I don't want to deal with resizing it every single time I need to open it. I have different sizes for each based on what action each item provides me, whether its dumping ammo into my hold, adding/removing drones, or just trying to keep track of minerals or blueprints. I don't want to open something and watch it fill my screen.
The total lack of functionality makes it insane to use.
I don't stab people in the back. -áWhen you do, you miss the look on their face and that's priceless. |

Hazen Koraka
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
7
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Posted - 2012.05.23 07:32:00 -
[404] - Quote
+1.
All we want is separate windows to drag and drop from hangar to ship cargo, is that a lot to ask for? |

Indiria Fuentes
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:34:00 -
[405] - Quote
hmmm, would like to apply for a job at ccp now, they must have some really strong stuff to smoke up there in the high north in Iceland.
And the folk at QC/release approval seem to have some even stronger boosters to get them stoned...
after having tried it on sisi and now almost continuously since release I can-¦t even understand what the goal of this "improvement" was, or what are the supposed target customers for this excellent example of bad usabillity.
Maybe it works for a new player with his noobship and 3 items in his hangar, but anyone that has to do some "serious work" in corp hangars, pos-¦es or large inventories is just screwed now... |

Galliard Fokker
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:39:00 -
[406] - Quote
+
please go back to old inventory system. Or at least give the option to use it. _.:Space Cowboys:._
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Jmo3yGrSg |

Tango Hotel
4th Drake Squadron
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:44:00 -
[407] - Quote
Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again.
Supported !
CCP: What were you thinking? |

InsaneJoe
Fuminrahi Industries
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:44:00 -
[408] - Quote
give us back our old UI this new inventory crap is useless and painful to use.... |

destiny2
Scorpius Federation Kleinrock Group
29
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:53:00 -
[409] - Quote
i havent played with the new items things much. but flying mostly amarr ships makes it easy to not load different ammos in the cargo. |

Kiwi Longbow
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:53:00 -
[410] - Quote
Why did we fix something that wern't broke!! un fix it now!! |
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Qwis
ALTES EISEN Ferrum 26
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:56:00 -
[411] - Quote
Balder Verdandi wrote:This inventory system is the most horrible part of the patch.
Mining operations: If you've ever held a mining op with jet-cans pulled by a Rorqual or Orca, or dumping directly into the cargo bay on an Orca, or dumping from an Orca into a Rorqual, where they were once easy, are now incredibly painful. You really need multiple windows for doing these operations and its obvious that whomever came up with this design hasn't spent hours in a belt or mining out the ABC's of an anom.
Looting wrecks: This should be super easy with two clicks (open cargo, loot all button) but it's now just madness. I don't want to open an inventory control system (and wait for it to load) while looting wrecks. All I need to see is the cargo hold of the wreck that I'm looting, not everything I have in system. This not only applies to belt ratting, but running a Noctis through a plex to get all the goodies and T2 salvage. And no, I don't want to fill my screen with stuff I don't need to see while running a salvage op.
Corp Hangars: Moving things like blueprints in/out of a corp hangar to use the corp lab are painful. There is no reason why I need to open my entire inventory, then open (shift+click) on the corp hangar, then open (another shift+click) the container with my blueprints, and then struggle with now open containers/corp hangar that will reset their size every session change because they are now hidden behind a single massive inventory control panel.
Session Resets: When I open my cargo hold, drone bay, station container, anchored container, Corp Hangar, or my friend's corp bay in his Orca, I don't want to deal with resizing it every single time I need to open it. I have different sizes for each based on what action each item provides me, whether its dumping ammo into my hold, adding/removing drones, or just trying to keep track of minerals or blueprints. I don't want to open something and watch it fill my screen.
The total lack of functionality makes it insane to use ...... and I haven't even covered moon mining/silos, POS refueling, corporate labs (picking up BPC's), etc. ......
I'm the same opinion.
Give us back the old inventory system. |

dreynar swyglou
Failstar Reloaded
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:56:00 -
[412] - Quote
I suport this idea can't believe the crapy inventory button made it through to TQ |

Imuran
Zentor Industries
13
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:58:00 -
[413] - Quote
+1 |

Andemnon Kohort
Protagonists Of Doom
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:58:00 -
[414] - Quote
This is supposed to be a game about Internet spaceships... or at least thats the line CCP gave, and dropped the ball on last year ... after all the apologising they went through to reconnect with the playerbase, i find it more than a little bizarre that they now think that Eve is not actually about spaceships blowing stuff up any more, but is about spreadsheet management and a trainer for all the dodgiest spreadsheet mechanics anyone ever heard of.. but in the meantime.. what the hell happened to listening to the players, its a real WTF moment as they seem to have totally overruled/ignored all the player feedback they had from the test server.. i mean, if thats the case why even bother having a test server anyway.. CCP have clearly lost the plot.. time for a reality check.. please.. before its too late. |

ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
64
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 07:59:00 -
[415] - Quote
+1
or jita monument gets it |

Pasheer Herrick
Legion of Denali Knights
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 08:24:00 -
[416] - Quote
Yes CCP please bring back the old way of accessing hangar items, ships, drone bay, etc. You've made it more complicated than it needs to be. Nice to be able to see where you're dragging and dropping items. I can't believe eve gamers approved these new changes. |

Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
43
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Posted - 2012.05.23 08:25:00 -
[417] - Quote
Heartily supported.
Also containers need to remember where they were and what size they were if they had been opened previously.
That should be really easy and quick to code too, only needs two functions:
1. Check if the container was open previously - input parameter: containers unique item id - output parameters: containers x,y coordinates, width, height and state of the container tree (opened, closed)
2. Save container UI-data when it is closed - input parameter: containers unique item id, x,y coordinates, width, height and state of the container tree (opened, closed)
Settings file could be used to save the data so the user can copy the settings to another installation.
Then when opening a new container window use the values returned by function one.
That small feature would probably fix a large portion of the issues people have with the new inventory window.
Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Laboratories Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
53
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 08:30:00 -
[418] - Quote
Tango Hotel wrote:Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again.
Supported ! CCP: What were you thinking?
No answer means they don't give a crap. Adapt or unsub. |

Raoul Endymion
x13
6
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Posted - 2012.05.23 08:31:00 -
[419] - Quote
signed as well..
/raoul |

InternetSpaceship
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 08:41:00 -
[420] - Quote
Balder Verdandi wrote:This inventory system is the most horrible part of the patch. its obvious that whomever came up with this design hasn't spent hours in a belt or mining out the ABC's of an anom.
Nope, they have jobs.
Seriously, the way some of you are carrying on is astonishing. People don't get this worked up over actual real problems. If this is the worst thing to happen to you this week, God I wish I had your cushy life. I can just picture you all now, red faced and huffing in impotent rage at your computer monitor as you continue to pay to play this game you now hate so much.
Keep paying that subscription, that'll show 'em.
Andemnon Kohort wrote: they now think that Eve is not actually about spaceships blowing stuff up any more, but is about spreadsheet management and a trainer for all the dodgiest spreadsheet mechanics anyone ever heard of..
I don't know what spaceship game you've been playing, but eve has always been about spreadsheets. |
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Colonel Santiago
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
2
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Posted - 2012.05.23 08:50:00 -
[421] - Quote
Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again.
+1 |

Heptameron
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
26
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Posted - 2012.05.23 08:53:00 -
[422] - Quote
A complete and utter pile of crap and needs fixing/reverting back to the old way. |

Galliard Fokker
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 08:58:00 -
[423] - Quote
InternetSpaceship wrote:If this is the worst thing to happen to you this week, God I wish I had your cushy life. I can just picture you all now, red faced and huffing in impotent rage at your computer monitor as you continue to pay to play this game you now hate so much.
...and it isnt even Goon made..... hehe _.:Space Cowboys:._
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Jmo3yGrSg I've got my saddle.-áOn my horse.-áHe's called....T-t-t-t-t-trigger.-áOf course.-á |

killorbekilled TBE
Dare Bears
81
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:00:00 -
[424] - Quote
yesterday i wanted to open my ship hanger and my items inventory separately then pin them to my neocom separately so i could have my old system back to a deegree and it wouldnt let me keep them open
make this possible please
huh? |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
490
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:04:00 -
[425] - Quote
killorbekilled TBE wrote:yesterday i wanted to open my ship hanger and my items inventory separately then pin them to my neocom separately so i could have my old system back to a deegree and it wouldnt let me keep them open
make this possible please
It's not the same but hit ESC then middle column of, I think general stuff, there's a button to put your items and ships on the station window.
Its not much but better then having to deal with the inventory crap.
Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |

Sovereign533
Trust Doesn't Rust En Garde
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 09:04:00 -
[426] - Quote
i endorse this forum post. the new additions were good. but as additions, not replacements. |

N'Kal
Grim Determination Clockworks Inc. Nulli Tertius
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.23 09:04:00 -
[427] - Quote
Inventory - suck ass.. just face it..
Mining ops, fail. Salvaging, fail.
Maintaining 18st Corporate hangars in a POS without names or full access to all tabs - MAAAJOR fail.
Jettison a full Noctis into a can - Crashes client.. seriously it gets unresponsive and crashes.. hilarious. I attached a process inspector and checked out what was going on.. Memory leaks anyone, i guess that was made in some python thingymajig, causes it draws a fuckton of resources.. My i7 cpu spikes to like 80% when handling the new inventory.
There should be an option for - old style inventory, or station trading inventory (because for that it was awsome). Miner/PVE Pilot with some required PvP skills looking for a 0.0 corp in Fountain. |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
509
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:10:00 -
[428] - Quote
CCP Dev's, please give us back quick inventory. This new system looks pretty but it's not working as intended.
+1 to Op and everyone else who wants this new Window cluster** gone.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
821
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:14:00 -
[429] - Quote
Hammer Crendraven wrote:You guys are all thinking linear move outside of the box and think a bit. This is a great first step but it is not finished. We need the ability to create and store auto features as a clickable link. Like we do for drone wings now. You create a name and assign a number of drones to the wing. That name becomes a clickable link that will launch all the drones assinged to it in one click.
Can you see how this would work in the inventory UI? For example name a function unload ore. Then assign to that function the ability to select all ore in the active ships cargo bay and move it to the hanger bay. Store it as a clickable link. Then when you dock up one click on this named clickable link does this function for you. Just like launching a wing of drones. Some error checking needs to be installed with these functions but it can be done. Like to make sure you are docked up so you do not dump all your ore into space.
Another function I would like is to unload all cargo from a wreck into my cargo bay. Target the wreck one click on the function and its done. Again error checking to ask if you want to load contraband if there is any on the wreck.
Programming into the UI so that we can create auto functions assigned to any name you can think of to do all sorts of one click functions. It would be the end goal of the new inventory UI and would make it very usefull for all of us.
This ability does not exsist now but I would hope CCP would add it asap if we all asked for it.
It's almost like the players expected a finished and practically functional feature. We don't pay 12 euros now, 3 euros in 4 months, so why would CCP deliver 80% of a MOST FUNDAMENTAL game feature now and 20% in 4 months?
What do we do in these 4 months? I can't even bring down my POSes waiting for this infinite clusterf**k to be fixed, it's too messy even for that. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Jack Mancetti
Rennfeuer Curatores Veritatis Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:20:00 -
[430] - Quote
+1 |
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
821
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:23:00 -
[431] - Quote
InternetSpaceship wrote:
Nope, they have jobs.
Seriously, the way some of you are carrying on is astonishing. People don't get this worked up over actual real problems. If this is the worst thing to happen to you this week, God I wish I had your cushy life. I can just picture you all now, red faced and huffing in impotent rage at your computer monitor as you continue to pay to play this game you now hate so much.
Keep paying that subscription, that'll show 'em.
Actually, people have already a very crappy life and therefore they expect to play a game that does not provide them further crappy experience.
The real answer is not: "Oh I have nothing else to cry about so let's flame that abortion of UI".
The real answer is: "Oh, I already have to deal with all this unnecessary crap during the day, then I log in and find more crap to deal with". Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Drakenfell
The 20th Legion Mildly Sober
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:43:00 -
[432] - Quote
+1 |

Dangra Mu'zgob
Parasitic Trading Systems
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:58:00 -
[433] - Quote
Epic fail - just couple of days after Error 37 diablo nitpicking banner you're not ashamed to present us UI Inferno expansion. Aye, Login is fine but that's where good things end. At least the name of this expansion is accurate... Trading for living / living for trading.
Alt of Shangra Mu'zgob |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:02:00 -
[434] - Quote
Galliard Fokker wrote:InternetSpaceship wrote:If this is the worst thing to happen to you this week, God I wish I had your cushy life. I can just picture you all now, red faced and huffing in impotent rage at your computer monitor as you continue to pay to play this game you now hate so much. ...and it isnt even Goon made..... hehe
I'm sure their strategic sector must be at heaven with this new "window", you know, fill all those pos with ammo/fuel, jb's yadayada.
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Javajunky
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:47:00 -
[435] - Quote
Hammer Crendraven wrote:You guys are all thinking linear move outside of the box and think a bit. This is a great first step but it is not finished. We need the ability to create and store auto features as a clickable link. Like we do for drone wings now. You create a name and assign a number of drones to the wing. That name becomes a clickable link that will launch all the drones assinged to it in one click.
Can you see how this would work in the inventory UI? For example name a function unload ore. Then assign to that function the ability to select all ore in the active ships cargo bay and move it to the hanger bay. Store it as a clickable link. Then when you dock up one click on this named clickable link does this function for you. Just like launching a wing of drones. Some error checking needs to be installed with these functions but it can be done. Like to make sure you are docked up so you do not dump all your ore into space.
Another function I would like is to unload all cargo from a wreck into my cargo bay. Target the wreck one click on the function and its done. Again error checking to ask if you want to load contraband if there is any on the wreck.
Programming into the UI so that we can create auto functions assigned to any name you can think of to do all sorts of one click functions. It would be the end goal of the new inventory UI and would make it very usefull for all of us.
This ability does not exsist now but I would hope CCP would add it asap if we all asked for it.
TLDR - I read your first sentence let me comment - CCP doesn't get a free pass publishing half-@ass content anymore. Unfinished products are unacceptable. This product is unacceptable because once you undock and try to work in space - at a POS / a Rorq / Manufacturing Arrays / a mining op - it absolutely sucks balls.... team ball sack or whatever crew of retards CCP brainchilded this goat fluck obviously dont play the game... they show up read some technical requiremements and take a guess... |

Sexy Cakes
Poasting
7
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:22:00 -
[436] - Quote
+1 |

Jajas Helper
26
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:34:00 -
[437] - Quote
Javajunky wrote:Hammer Crendraven wrote:You guys are all thinking linear move outside of the box and think a bit. This is a great first step but it is not finished. We need the ability to create and store auto features as a clickable link. Like we do for drone wings now. You create a name and assign a number of drones to the wing. That name becomes a clickable link that will launch all the drones assinged to it in one click.
Can you see how this would work in the inventory UI? For example name a function unload ore. Then assign to that function the ability to select all ore in the active ships cargo bay and move it to the hanger bay. Store it as a clickable link. Then when you dock up one click on this named clickable link does this function for you. Just like launching a wing of drones. Some error checking needs to be installed with these functions but it can be done. Like to make sure you are docked up so you do not dump all your ore into space.
Another function I would like is to unload all cargo from a wreck into my cargo bay. Target the wreck one click on the function and its done. Again error checking to ask if you want to load contraband if there is any on the wreck.
Programming into the UI so that we can create auto functions assigned to any name you can think of to do all sorts of one click functions. It would be the end goal of the new inventory UI and would make it very usefull for all of us.
This ability does not exsist now but I would hope CCP would add it asap if we all asked for it. TLDR - I read your first sentence let me comment - CCP doesn't get a free pass publishing half-@ass content anymore. Unfinished products are unacceptable. This product is unacceptable because once you undock and try to work in space - at a POS / a Rorq / Manufacturing Arrays / a mining op - it absolutely sucks balls.... team ball sack or whatever crew of retards CCP brainchilded this goat fluck obviously dont play the game... they show up read some technical requiremements and take a guess...
i highlighted your mistake.. there is no reading involved... just a the guessing part |

Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
89
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:39:00 -
[438] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Pinstar Colton wrote:So before the patch I could just have an alt drop their PI goods into a corp hanger... ooh but wait now my alt can't even access the hanger to deposit goods.
Ironic that the "Unrent office" still has a button but we can't actually open the office from there. (Serious face) Wait, your alts in the same Corp have no Corp Hanger access but your Main/CEO does? Or am I missing something ???
That is exactly correct. She had the "Corp deliveries" section available to her but not the hanger itself.
The plot thickens though, when I logged off her and back onto my main...then back onto her... poof! She had access to the corp hanger all of the sudden. (And I didn't change anything regarding her status or privileges when I was on my main). I submitted it as a bug report. I don't make minerals. I just make ore 20% cooler. |

MindLife
8
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:49:00 -
[439] - Quote
Still unplayable I see...
Logging in in a few days to see if this crap inventory is removed so I can play the game satisfied again..
I have seen many bad things in my 8 years of playing EVE but this, I cant find the right words for this annoying pile of crap.. Dont steal my coffee !! |

Noddy Comet
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:51:00 -
[440] - Quote
Quote: - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again.
New system is completely horrible now.
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Snoodaard Thrasy
Yulai Guard Fleet Yards Yulai Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:52:00 -
[441] - Quote
Jup, back online after DT, no changes. If you're not going to fix the thing, at least bring the BUTTONS BACK!
And just another reminder: BY ANY SENSIBLE STANDARDS OF DESIGN THIS INVENTORY IS STUPID. |

Rrama Ratamnim
Phoenix Evolved Part Duo
28
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:00:00 -
[442] - Quote
bump because honestly
IF YOUR GONNA CLEAN UP RIGHT CLICK, DONT REMOVE THE ACTUAL STUFF WE NEED! |

Diana Valenti
United Abominations.
13
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:05:00 -
[443] - Quote
I agree. |

Francis Imsalsa
Fusion Death Inc. En Garde
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:07:00 -
[444] - Quote
I want the old inventory back the new is is just **** |

Xpaulusx
V I R I I Ineluctable.
46
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:11:00 -
[445] - Quote
Atleast the option to switch back +1............ Little word of advice "Don't fix it if it ain't broken"[:p] |

Shiva Reign
SILVER INDUSTRIES
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:12:00 -
[446] - Quote
i agree going to my pos and opening labs in a pain in the ass i see everything even the damn pos guns on the inventory tab.
want old one back now. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
832
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:14:00 -
[447] - Quote
+1 Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Diana Valenti
United Abominations.
13
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:14:00 -
[448] - Quote
Also, looting now suck. In L4 missions i used to kill everything, then come back in Noctis and just spam TAKE ALL button. Now after "take all" it defaults back to my cargo...CCP, whyyyy. |

Elonaya Noas
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:40:00 -
[449] - Quote
standard ccp action, no fucks were given. but yes this new inventory is **** |

Kale Kold
the united Negative Ten.
87
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:41:00 -
[450] - Quote
There's also no drag and drop of ships from the inventory to the hangar meaning no quick way of jumping in a ship!  GÇ£Some people call me insane for the destruction-áIGÇÖve caused, ...I believe I was just doing my duty!GÇ¥ -- Testimony submitted to Caldari Navy war crimes tribunal. |
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MisterArch
Pretenders Inc W-Space
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:48:00 -
[451] - Quote
Living at POS with the new inventory is awful. |

Major Annoyance
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:55:00 -
[452] - Quote
I agree.
the current UI concept for unified inventory may be OK if you only have a few ships and your items hangar. But as soon as corp hangars or POS structures are involved, it becomes simply unbearable.
I'd suggest a checkbox that allows us to choose between old and new inventory. |

Evil Belsebub
Imperial Pharmacy
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:10:00 -
[453] - Quote
I agree.
I want the old working inventory back.
New is is just..............
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Maxus Chimerus
Imperial Pharmacy
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:22:00 -
[454] - Quote
One old manner is better than bag full of new ones. Old Finnish phrase. +1 |

Jack Skyland
Estel Arador Corp Services
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:23:00 -
[455] - Quote
Good god whats going on here!!?
Im afraid of change! |

Commander A9
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
7
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:26:00 -
[456] - Quote
I'm not too much of a fan of a new unified inventory system either.
CCP, please bring back the old inventory system-there was no reason for it to be changed. "Don't fix what isn't broken!" |

Kaeser
Invictus Australis Northern Coalition.
3
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:28:00 -
[457] - Quote
+1
For the love of god get rid of this new inventory rubbish and bring back the old items and ships tabs.
How the hell did it get through testing without people recognising how ponderous a system it was ?
The merge into station panel box will remain ticked on my clients but being able to unpin those boxes like the old system would be handy. Alternatively allow access to the old system while in space if this box was checked in station. |

Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
188
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:28:00 -
[458] - Quote
Jack Skyland wrote:Good god whats going on here!!?
Im afraid of change!
Don't be sillly, this is far more than a mere "change", this is a complete overhaul that's evidently a net loss for many players.
I say "net loss" because the new inventory does indeed have some neat improvements; but they're not enough to balance out the absurd loss of functionality for power users.
And, once again, the question has got to be asked: since (as I understand it) all these problems were flagged vociferously by testers on Sisi, what the hell is the point of putting stuff on Sisi if CCP are just going to blunder through with wholesale changes like this? |

Commander A9
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
7
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:37:00 -
[459] - Quote
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:
And, once again, the question has got to be asked: since (as I understand it) all these problems were flagged vociferously by testers on Sisi, what the hell is the point of putting stuff on Sisi if CCP are just going to blunder through with wholesale changes like this?
I asked myself that question too... |

Evil Belsebub
Imperial Pharmacy
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:48:00 -
[460] - Quote
still standing near Amarr Academic Monument and waiting for the wind of change... |
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Commander A9
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
7
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:05:00 -
[461] - Quote
Evil Belsebub wrote:still standing near Amarr Academic Monument and waiting for the wind of change...
By 'wind of change,' I believe you're referring to the next riot! ;) I'll be there!
I think the issue was people recognized the circumstances surrounding the UI system...but nothing was done... If CCP wants to make changes: -rollback to old inventory system (pre-Inferno) -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -stop "fixing" what isn't "broken" |

HeavensAngel
Falcon Advanced Industries
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:06:00 -
[462] - Quote
Well in Station the new UI may be useful ... in space it-¦s just a pain in the arse
well to be more specific: why do i need a search field in my cargo window? there are only some missiles in it so why i need to waste some space at my screen for a freaking filter bar?
now there is so much text in the inventory window that i need to adjust transparency setting to read that **** that i don-¦t don-¦t even want to have in there ... |

Reefer Girl
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:10:00 -
[463] - Quote
Why ccp?
Why would you change something that was already working great and no one had a problem with?
Why do you not read our posts and listen to our feedback?
I have sat in my pos ever since this change to inventory simply because mining has now gone from pain in the butt to undoable with 6 accounts.
Why do you want players to bot? That must be the reason for this change.
This whole thing has been nothing but ccp's attempt to bring more botters to the game. That can be the only answer. Botters = more money for ccp because botters need to buy gtcs too.
Stop botters from mining my ore please and roll back this change please. |

Xin Wen
Xin Wen Corp 2
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:10:00 -
[464] - Quote
I seriously can't believe that people are complaining about a more organized approach to characters items. I LOVE the new setup and I am not the only one. It even tells you how much your cargo is valued at. How cool is that!! I think people just need to get used to it. But certainly DO NOT revert back to the old less organized way. The Changes in this latest update are very nice. I have been on since the beginning of the game and the new changes has made the game fun to play again. Thanks CCP!!! |

Andy DelGardo
Hedion University Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:22:00 -
[465] - Quote
I just tried to do my usual POS and shopping related task as an industrialist, i also tried really hard to use the inv.-tree combined with the shift-click window functionality. The result is that i need like double the amount of clicks and twice the time to accomplish the same things.
Here are the main problems:
1) In the old system window position and setup was saved separately, this means if u open it via hotkey u directly understand what was open, since each window was at a distinct position with a distinct size and setup. In the new system u need double check where u are every time.
2) Grouping windows where saved, so that if u open several pos arrays u always got the same loc/size. In the new system u get the big window.
3) Near a POS with lost of modules its basically a nightmare to work with the new window, since u have to rename modules, so they show up top in the list.
Basically the poor design of the new system is based on lost human recognition of size and window positions. The basic idea of the tree is oki, but the lost ability to save different windows and positions makes it harder, since as a human we can recognize location and positions much faster than a highlighted text entry in a tree view.
bye Andy |

HeavensAngel
Falcon Advanced Industries
3
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:34:00 -
[466] - Quote
Xin Wen wrote:It even tells you how much your cargo is valued at. How cool is that!!
i don-¦t want to know the roughly estimated value of the missiles that i will fire at the next ship, they will be gone in some seconds anyway so why i need to bother my client with such useless information at all? it-¦s just some useless information that needs to be updated every second and adds no value at all.
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Balder Verdandi
Czerka. The Methodical Alliance
13
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:18:00 -
[467] - Quote
Xin Wen wrote:It even tells you how much your cargo is valued at. How cool is that!!
Tell me how cool it is when you have a missile BPO, missile BPC's, and missiles you're just built sitting in a Corp Hangar and the screen tells you "apples + oranges + pears = ISK".
I would agree with you, but there are market tools already in-game that tell me how much everything is worth based on buy/sell orders. If you don't know how to use those tools, you really aren't ready to buy or sell things on the market.
I don't stab people in the back. -áWhen you do, you miss the look on their face and that's priceless. |

Mogwhi
Bureau Of Mining Barges
9
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:28:00 -
[468] - Quote
Xin Wen wrote:I seriously can't believe that people are complaining about a more organized approach to characters items. I LOVE the new setup and I am not the only one. It even tells you how much your cargo is valued at. How cool is that!! I think people just need to get used to it. But certainly DO NOT revert back to the old less organized way. The Changes in this latest update are very nice. I have been on since the beginning of the game and the new changes has made the game fun to play again. Thanks CCP!!!
I don't like the new UI because it tries to do too much. I like it a little more today since the shift click does seem to be working so far, and I can seperate out a couple of my favourite windows. I hate the increase in salvaging time for a mission that the new UI has forced on us. I dont care how much the stuff in my hold is worth, I put it there so have a good idea what its worth already. I don't care how much the stuff is worth in a wreck. I already have a general idea, or I am not bothered because I am going to stack everything in a hanger and sort it at a later date. Which will be either to reprocess the lot, or pick out the stuff I need then reprocess the rest. |

El Geo
Pathfinders.
30
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:35:00 -
[469] - Quote
+1 new inventory has lost functionality (what a surprise), its fine if you dont have much stuff but the old way is just sooo much better especially if you have a lot of assets in one place, also with multiple windows the damned tab read ship name, ship type etc i have to widen them just so i know which can im looking in
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Ad'Hakim Tahous
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:43:00 -
[470] - Quote
+1
I live in hope of an opt out as with CQ.
Best forum rumor of the day: Opt out will be available in Nex store |
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El Geo
Pathfinders.
32
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:50:00 -
[471] - Quote
there are a few things that have needed attention for awhile imo, like corporation roles (most arent clear at all) aswell as pos functionality, i cant honestly think of anything that was wrong with the old inventory system, it was easy to use and did the job perfectly well - if CCP can bring back the same functionality level back with the new inventory then great but i doubt they can things i liked before were the way i could double click on something like a can and it would open its inventory window, i also liked being able to select multiple cans and have them all open for me while being able to read the can name in the tab header |

El Geo
Pathfinders.
32
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:52:00 -
[472] - Quote
Ad'Hakim Tahous wrote:+1
I live in hope of an opt out as with CQ.
Best forum rumor of the day: Opt out will be available in Nex store
i liked the idea of walking in stations tbh, i really do but the captains quarters are just well, boring, i never use them (and even if there was wis i would still want option of the ship view or wis) |

GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
5
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Posted - 2012.05.23 16:29:00 -
[473] - Quote
Balder Verdandi wrote:This inventory system is the most horrible part of the patch.
Mining operations: If you've ever held a mining op with jet-cans pulled by a Rorqual or Orca, or dumping directly into the cargo bay on an Orca, or dumping from an Orca into a Rorqual, where they were once easy, are now incredibly painful. You really need multiple windows for doing these operations and its obvious that whomever came up with this design hasn't spent hours in a belt or mining out the ABC's of an anom.
Looting wrecks: This should be super easy with two clicks (open cargo, loot all button) but it's now just madness. I don't want to open an inventory control system (and wait for it to load) while looting wrecks. All I need to see is the cargo hold of the wreck that I'm looting, not everything I have in system. This not only applies to belt ratting, but running a Noctis through a plex to get all the goodies and T2 salvage. And no, I don't want to fill my screen with stuff I don't need to see while running a salvage op.
Corp Hangars: Moving things like blueprints in/out of a corp hangar to use the corp lab are painful. There is no reason why I need to open my entire inventory, then open (shift+click) on the corp hangar, then open (another shift+click) the container with my blueprints, and then struggle with now open containers/corp hangar that will reset their size every session change because they are now hidden behind a single massive inventory control panel.
Session Resets: When I open my cargo hold, drone bay, station container, anchored container, Corp Hangar, or my friend's corp bay in his Orca, I don't want to deal with resizing it every single time I need to open it. I have different sizes for each based on what action each item provides me, whether its dumping ammo into my hold, adding/removing drones, or just trying to keep track of minerals or blueprints. I don't want to open something and watch it fill my screen.
The total lack of functionality makes it insane to use ...... and I haven't even covered moon mining/silos, POS refueling, corporate labs (picking up BPC's), etc. ......
Clearly, the people coding this game are not people who actually play it. |

Sajuuk Brutor
Freeman Explorations Black Mesa Complex
2
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Posted - 2012.05.23 16:31:00 -
[474] - Quote
PLEASE MAKE IT AN OPTION BETWEEN THE OLD AND NEW SYSTEM!!! |

Mr Bimble
Lost Ark Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 16:33:00 -
[475] - Quote
Ship hangar back would be good.Having to click away even more to get to the same place is a waste of time and threatening RSI. |

Koldon Black
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 17:03:00 -
[476] - Quote
I would have preferred to see something like this implemented in the assets window rather than an inventory. Its a lot more complex and sluggish and isnt exactly something I want to deal with when I'm flying in space trying to loot wrecks and cans, or throwing a load of ore in the POS or even checking up on ammo.
Sure it provides lots of functionality in terms of filtering and organising your items but for simple things like just moving an item from your cargo to your POS or looting wrecks its very counter-intuitive. When I'm flying in space and not just docked in a station I really cant be arsed about half the **** that the new inventory window does because I'm busy flying my ship and doing other **** that has nothing to do with how organised my inventory is. Which is why I think such a function would have been better suited as an assets window overhaul, hell I'd love the price estimates in my assets window. I'd even love having all the orginisation options in my assets window. You could even make so that you could manipulate/move around items in the assets window like you can in the inventory. But when it comes to simple things, the new system is slow and not as easy to use as the old one.
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GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
5
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Posted - 2012.05.23 17:10:00 -
[477] - Quote
Xin Wen wrote:I seriously can't believe that people are complaining about a more organized approach to characters items.
You aren't paying attention and you certainly haven't bothered to read this thread where people like me have included screenshots to very clearly and concisely describe the problems we have with the new inventory system.
We took the time to post in this thread. If nothing else, you owe it to us to actually read the ****ing thread. |

RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
49
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Posted - 2012.05.23 17:16:00 -
[478] - Quote
Was simple. fast , and easy before. Now its just slower and less dependable.
What's Next? Commadore 64 Graphics?
Fire they guy who suggested it. Fire the guy who developed it. Fire the guy who gave it the ok. |

Kaphrah
Sleeper Infomorph Technologies
2
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Posted - 2012.05.23 17:25:00 -
[479] - Quote
+1 for old window mountains, I GÖÑ U
*waiting for a Dev singing: I'm bringing easy back, the other devs don't know how to act GÖ¬GÖ½GÖ½GÖ¬GÖ½
don't ask where I got the idea for this... |

NuroCorp
Raven's Flight Vanguard.
4
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Posted - 2012.05.23 17:39:00 -
[480] - Quote
This desperately needs to be addressed and have the option to have a 'Classic' view of our items. I could understand if this inventory system was applied to our assets placed all around the EVE universe, to help us keep track of what crap we have where and how much its worth. But for the in station access and for the use of capital ship hangars, and even mining vessels - whose cargo bay Close's itself every time you remove all items from it. its a P.O.S.
CCP you've made the game over tedious for me to play, a factor i find that compels me to un-sub, I've unsubbed two thus far,. The extra tedium and glitches make running multiple clients a joke, so I'll unsub them all - until this matter is resolved. I'm surrounded by Trolls |
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KHAAN DRAKE
Bancor Mercantile Franchise Incorporated
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 17:47:00 -
[481] - Quote
There must be better things to do than **** us all off! |

Lord Skyfire
6
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Posted - 2012.05.23 17:51:00 -
[482] - Quote
Xin Wen wrote:I seriously can't believe that people are complaining about a more organized approach to characters items. I LOVE the new setup and I am not the only one. It even tells you how much your cargo is valued at. How cool is that!! I think people just need to get used to it. But certainly DO NOT revert back to the old less organized way. The Changes in this latest update are very nice. I have been on since the beginning of the game and the new changes has made the game fun to play again. Thanks CCP!!!
WRONG! Glare Crust is listed at about 7-9x its actual cost in Jita. CCP wont be able to keep up with the player market, this is already apparent when you have to pay taxes when importing/exporting goods. I pay 10% actual tax when the custom office is at 5% tax. |

WickedMan1337
The Flaming Sideburn's Waterboard
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 17:56:00 -
[483] - Quote
I just activated 4 accounts, and come back to this F'KD UP items thing! Remove it, if you want those 60$ from me every month! |

Annabelle Ember
Kavashikari
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 18:03:00 -
[484] - Quote
RavenPaine wrote:Fire they guy who suggested it. Fire the guy who developed it. Fire the guy who gave it the ok.
Yeah, I can see how taking away someone's ability to feed their family is totally the appropriate restitution for your inconvenience in a video game.
Oh wait. No, that attitude is actually completely ********. MY BAD.  |

El Geo
Pathfinders.
34
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Posted - 2012.05.23 18:07:00 -
[485] - Quote
Koldon Black wrote:I would have preferred to see something like this implemented in the assets window rather than an inventory. Its a lot more complex and sluggish and isnt exactly something I want to deal with when I'm flying in space trying to loot wrecks and cans, or throwing a load of ore in the POS or even checking up on ammo.
Sure it provides lots of functionality in terms of filtering and organising your items but for simple things like just moving an item from your cargo to your POS or looting wrecks its very counter-intuitive. When I'm flying in space and not just docked in a station I really cant be arsed about half the **** that the new inventory window does because I'm busy flying my ship and doing other **** that has nothing to do with how organised my inventory is. Which is why I think such a function would have been better suited as an assets window overhaul, hell I'd love the price estimates in my assets window. I'd even love having all the orginisation options in my assets window. You could even make so that you could manipulate/move around items in the assets window like you can in the inventory. But when it comes to simple things, the new system is slow and not as easy to use as the old one.
i think you may have something there, this new inventory system would have been great for the assets tab both corporation and personal and the old system for the in space/at station thing, i think that would work
RavenPaine wrote:Was simple. fast , and easy before. Now its just slower and less dependable.
What's Next? Commadore 64 Graphics?
Fire they guy who suggested it. Fire the guy who developed it. Fire the guy who gave it the ok.
i wouldnt go as far as demanding people be sacked, its not THAT bad lol, as for the graphics well, i'd actually +1 a lower polygon/graphics setting with no textures, sadly i use a second computer thats a bit old but it was working fine until the recent patch where the graphics have gone all funny on the fitting menu, besides, anything that could help reduce lag on my side would be great :)
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Caderidien
Pro Patria Mori
15
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Posted - 2012.05.23 18:28:00 -
[486] - Quote
Quote: i wouldnt go as far as demanding people be sacked, its not THAT bad lol
While I agree there's always going to be bugs, someone needs to pay for the consistent failures of recent EVE patches. There is absolutely no quality control and they seem to release patches on arbitrary deadlines without ever being ready. There's clearly a manager forcing these things to come out on time but broken instead of pushing them back a few days until they're actually ready. That manager needs to be sacked. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
210
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Posted - 2012.05.23 18:41:00 -
[487] - Quote
El Geo wrote:
i wouldnt go as far as demanding people be sacked, its not THAT bad lol,
YES it is. Ignoring all the feedback on the Sisi Forum about it after their call for professionalism for all CCP after the FanfestFiasco.
That ignoring is utterly unprofessional. CCP will seemingly NEVER get out of the "10 guys in an Attic" Phase.
It's over for me regardless. I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
5
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Posted - 2012.05.23 19:09:00 -
[488] - Quote
Annabelle Ember wrote:RavenPaine wrote:Fire they guy who suggested it. Fire the guy who developed it. Fire the guy who gave it the ok. Yeah, I can see how taking away someone's ability to feed their family is totally the appropriate restitution for your inconvenience in a video game. Oh wait. No, that attitude is actually completely ********. MY BAD. 
The point is that a business should not make decisions that will alienate customers. It's a poor business choice and if enough customers leave because of that business choice then the business dies and EVERYONE is out of work.
You don't spend much time in the professional private sector, do ya :) |

GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
5
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Posted - 2012.05.23 19:10:00 -
[489] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:El Geo wrote:
i wouldnt go as far as demanding people be sacked, its not THAT bad lol,
YES it is. Ignoring all the feedback on the Sisi Forum about it after their call for professionalism for all CCP after the FanfestFiasco. That ignoring is utterly unprofessional. CCP will seemingly NEVER get out of the "10 guys in an Attic" Phase. It's over for me regardless.
Your wallet is the only vote they care about. Yes, voice your opinion, but if the changes they make are enough to remove or negate the entertainment value of the game, the only opinion they're really going to pay attention to is your refusal to continue rewarding them for their work. |

Jaxiar
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 19:13:00 -
[490] - Quote
I agree, the new **** is terrible, I dont mind you putting it in the game, but dont force me to use something thats worse and more tedious that what I had before, seriously, change it back, I have to clean my entire PC setup everytime I docked because I puke over how much this system sucks. |
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Scarlet Dynasty
Spacefreak Social Club Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 19:56:00 -
[491] - Quote
Well ccp I have waited a day for you to change your brainfart of an idea with this inventory change. I have been sitting in my pos bitching from various accounts. Tomorrow when I log in and I will drop my various towers if things have not been rolled back. I will start moving assets to 1 account. In 2 days time I will start to pull the plug on my accounts. My $115 a month obviously means nothing to you. |

El Geo
Pathfinders.
34
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:12:00 -
[492] - Quote
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72779
looks like they wanted the feedback from tq to me, definatly a step in the right direction anyway |

El Geo
Pathfinders.
34
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:13:00 -
[493] - Quote
Scarlet Dynasty wrote:Well ccp I have waited a day for you to change your brainfart of an idea with this inventory change. I have been sitting in my pos bitching from various accounts. Tomorrow when I log in and I will drop my various towers if things have not been rolled back. I will start moving assets to 1 account. In 2 days time I will start to pull the plug on my accounts. My $115 a month obviously means nothing to you.
you're a goon, no one cares :P
rome wasnt built in a day, DEMANDING things be done RIGHT AWAY or you'll unsub = lulz |

Mullethead
League of Gentlemen Ethereal Dawn
22
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:22:00 -
[494] - Quote
+1
Opt out check box required. Rollback until this available. |

Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:24:00 -
[495] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
It's over for me regardless.
Every freaking day your going on and on about how you're unsubbing. ******* unsub already you annoying little child. I assure you noone here cares. Could we get a solid date your account is expiring so I never have to read your whinny annoying posts again? |

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
587
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:25:00 -
[496] - Quote
Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back: - Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again. EDIT: Now having played a bit more, and me being a pirate. I like the new missile effects and the new killmails. Also the value shown of all items in a hangar is nice. But please also fix the above. EDIT 2: Some other told you so before ... Yet they went ahead with the change.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104539&find=unreadCCP we also like to have multiple windows open that don't reset with a session change. People find it difficult to mine, run missions, browse pos inventory. And I havent touched yet the subject where you multibox, where u preset your screen for a specific task. And then the inventory resets itself each time, making it a pain to multibox.
I don't care if I get those back or not, but I want this;
1) I want to be able to separate windows (cargo especially) without having the annoying border on top + bottom. There's no need to have a blue bar showing me % of cargo taken, and even less to know amount of items and estimated value. It's alot more important to have that window take up less space. 2) I want windows to refresh immediately, when I'm moving stuff from can/hangar A to B, I want to be able to confirm where it actually is? I dragged that deadspace mod from the loot to my cargo, didn't I? How come I can't tell? 3) I want loot to open in a separate window, and remember it's location. Whether I am PvPing/on the move, or PvEing (and possibly having multiple loot windows open), I want quick access, easy overview, mobility. Opening a non-refreshing giant window that blocks a good portion if my screen just slows me down, and from a PvP point of view that can be the difference if I get loot or not. Quite vital. 4) There really should be a way to open cans directly from your cargo/corp hangars etc. If I have, say, a medium secure can in my battleship with cargo open, or say a giant secure in my carrier - then I should be able to open it by doubleclicking (or shift-clicking or anything), and it should open in a separate window (in a position it remembers).
After those three have been fixed, I will consider other changes, but that should be of highest prio right now. shiptoastin' liek a baws |

El Geo
Pathfinders.
34
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:34:00 -
[497] - Quote
hey you know, if CCP make it possable to open up containers inside corp hangers at the pos this whole thread would go silent :P
yes, all the functionality of the old system with the pros of the new system would be the right spot but it pretty much looks like thats what they are doing :) |

Aiserock
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 21:04:00 -
[498] - Quote
I hate the new inventory windows, or should I say the lack of quick buttons to open them individually. Why fix something that is not broken? |

Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
25
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:46:00 -
[499] - Quote
still hate it, how come this got pushed of the front page? |

Ominae Australis
Bundy Rum manufacturing
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:51:00 -
[500] - Quote
I really HATE this unified inventory crap was trying to do some POS work, OH MY GOD trying to refuel tower refill silos what a pain in the arse all I wanted to do was punch the screen WHY WHY WHY the old system wasn't broken why fix it . |
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
151
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:55:00 -
[501] - Quote
I don't even need the original buttons... but I can't work with having to reopening 5 or 6 containers, and the hanger, and all the orca holds every time I haul to the station.. especially when opening more than one container overwrites the previous can opened.
I have to sort a lot of ore for my ops that sometimes have a lot of people in them who need their mining yields kept separate.. this is now impossible under your new consolodated window. Try it.. you'll soon see what I mean.
it''s not a matter of preferring one system over the other.. it's a matter of a change that has made it nearly impossible for me to do what I had been doing... without spending much more time in station - many times more. this was not a needed change.. no one complained about not having consolidated windows..... and search tools. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
853
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:55:00 -
[502] - Quote
El Geo wrote: rome wasnt built in a day, DEMANDING things be done RIGHT AWAY or you'll unsub = lulz
But Rome was burnt in a day.
Like our old inventory did. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
11
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:58:00 -
[503] - Quote
+5 1 day and i am sick of contracts been messed up and this ui |

Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
307
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:01:00 -
[504] - Quote
+1 for easy ... |

Archa4 Badasaz
Viziam Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:40:00 -
[505] - Quote
I have to say +1 Hate to push so many button to open things... Simple thing: lvl4 courier missions. In station I always have an opened Items window And usually my ship cargohold is minimized. So I accept the mission I drag and I drop. And I can go fly the distance. Now I redock, all windows closed, have to open one, have to open another. Why the change? Just why? and for those that say "Oh, it's just a few more clicks" well yeah 3 times the clicks. And I hate this pointless change... |

durk pitt
We Mostly Come Out at Night. Mostly.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 01:04:00 -
[506] - Quote
+1. I hate every time i have to dock now. Nuts. I thought politicians were the only ones that made dumb decisions like this.
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Teclador
Stardust Heavy Industries Persona Non Gratis
9
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Posted - 2012.05.24 01:07:00 -
[507] - Quote
+1
The Unified Inventory is complete aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *Headshot* 
All UI Devs are to be Fired.
This is absolutely the Biggest Epic Fail UI i ever saw in my whole Live. Complete messed up. |

Thorasine
Molden Outlaws Red Outlaws
5
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:24:00 -
[508] - Quote
I agree... I hate the new inventory system.
I liked being able to see the ships cause names are sometimes hard to familiar yourself with.
And when i drag A item to a ship it goes to the ship hangar screen so i have to reclick my main inventory and drag another item(if i was too lazy to do ctrl+click that is)
Prices on the items is good...but please bring back the old hangars...was so much simpler....why change it in the first place?
;-; <-=---sad face
THANKS FOR THE MISSLES THOUGH!!!!
-Hardcore Caldari Pilot |

MR DEMOS
Death Knight Legion Whiskey Creek Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:30:00 -
[509] - Quote
sry i have to put my 2 cents in about this whole windows trhing... seems to me your catering to a Person with a small screen... For those of us that have big HONKING MONITORS THIS IS FRICKING ANNOYING WTF... ummm wheres the diasable button... Staples made it easy WHY CAN"T CCP...  |

Shiloh Aj
PastaBake Conquerors of Coffee
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:39:00 -
[510] - Quote
If it aint broke -- don't f**k with it. |
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Almost Hum4n
Almost Human.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:26:00 -
[511] - Quote
I've been teetering (that a word?) on the edge of taking a break from Eve and Inferno kicked me over the edge, the UI is just as cumbersome as it was on sisi. Frankly I don't want to bother learning a new way of moving allot of stuff around when there was nothing wrong with the old way.
I run 3 accounts and PLEX them all so I'm not saving any money, don't think CCP will feel the pinch of losing 45 bux a month either so I'm not taking a break to "teach them a lesson!", I'm taking a break as my game play experience feels too much like work than fun for me now.
No I'm not going away forever, been playing since 2003 and I'm addicted so no U can't haz meh stuffs..!! I'll prolly be back after summer is over or maybe sooner if they fix the UI faggotry, at least have an option to revert back to the old way. |

Diana Valenti
United Abominations.
23
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Posted - 2012.05.24 06:32:00 -
[512] - Quote
MR DEMOS wrote:sry i have to put my 2 cents in about this whole windows trhing... seems to me your catering to a Person with a small screen... For those of us that have big HONKING MONITORS THIS IS FRICKING ANNOYING WTF... ummm wheres the diasable button... Staples made it easy WHY CAN"T CCP... 
I have 17' and its terrible too, dont worry. |

Uther Aharalel
Aharalel Family
12
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Posted - 2012.05.24 06:36:00 -
[513] - Quote
+2 (for 2 accounts)
New UI is bad bad bad, it really ruins a big part of the game for me  |

0R2 Vasquez
The Ressabiators
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 06:43:00 -
[514] - Quote
You know the drill : the only feedback is to vote with your wallet! |

Neon Tetra
the united Negative Ten.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 09:52:00 -
[515] - Quote
hate it with a passion |

Sidways
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:25:00 -
[516] - Quote
it's ****** up..admit it change it |

Valhallas
New Eden Robotics
20
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:42:00 -
[517] - Quote
I tried to give it a chance, but alas no, it's a step backwards in usability.
The only thing I would have changed about the old inventory, would have been an option to make all containers always appear at the top of the station inventory list |

Jajas Helper
47
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:56:00 -
[518] - Quote
Logged in from work.... wasted 1hr of work time instead of my normal 10-15minutes... good thing i'm my own boss
So in a month time, i could save myself atleast 10-15 hrs of workhours...If i drop 3 invention accounts and just sell a few plex, with the extra hours of actually work i can do.. i'll not have to bother with this inventory click fest and tedious invention/production workflow you are now forcing on me.
CCP, remove the unwanted tree stack while doing pos management, the old tab system worked ALOT faster. At least give us the option between the old and new system, then you will see in your statistics how many accounts actually keep the new system.
Personaly i'm on the edge of not bothering my inventing, production until this is rollbacked or fixed to the point where it is as efficient as it was before. So choose between keeping paying accounts or continuing with ignoring your customers that like having a smooth game experience.
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Jajas Helper
47
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Posted - 2012.05.24 12:00:00 -
[519] - Quote
Valhallas wrote:I tried to give it a chance, but alas no, it's a step backwards in usability.
The only thing I would have changed about the old inventory, would have been an option to make all containers always appear at the top of the station inventory list
this, like i said before: Keep the old inventory system, and upgrate the assets window with the new inventory system -> you now have fixed an issue, and upgraded the now limited asset window.
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shadowgirl9
Get Out of Pod Free Card The Forgotten Templars
5
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Posted - 2012.05.24 12:15:00 -
[520] - Quote
I love some of changes that come with the update but the cargo/ item and ship hangers is just rubbish. the main reson for this is it slows you down, it now takes a few min for me to find the right hager and then to move a item across takes even longer as it all spawns in the same box, would not mind as much if they stay seprated once closed and not have to keep doing this all the time. went to put fuel in my carrier once again toke me a few minutes to put from from a pos hanger to the carreir fuel bay, this should have only taken a few seconds.
Speed this process up |
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Nukleanis
Falcon Advanced Industries
7
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:04:00 -
[521] - Quote
I made a Victoria Sponge Cake once.
I whisked my 225g caster sugar, 225g butter and four eggs in the bowl, added a splash of milk, then folded 225g self-raising flour into the mixture and even added a drop of vanilla essence for flavour. I then poured the mixture into two cake tins and allowed to bake for twenty minutes at 180C.
After baking and allowing to cool I slapped the two sides together before dusting the top with icing sugar. My friends told me that I had forgotten the jam and cream filling. I ignored them. Again, my friends told me that I had missed out a vital component in the cake, and that if I didn't rectify it then no-one would eat my cake as it would be too dry. I had a deadline to meet, so I presented the unfinished cake to my friends.
Alas. Those friends were greviously disappointed that I had not taken heed of their sage words. No-one liked my cake. I was openly mocked for not using any filling even though I was reminded to do so. My cake was left alone and turned stale, all because I had not listened to those I should have.
Truthfully, though: The cake (story) is a lie, as I'm not stupid enough to make a Victoria Sponge without cream in the middle. However, the analogy should be quite clear, as CCP made something and also missed out a key ingredient - usability.
Like this if you like cake! |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:11:00 -
[522] - Quote
Almost Hum4n wrote: I'll prolly be back after summer is over or maybe sooner if they fix the UI faggotry.
WE....had nothing to do with it. I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
269
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:12:00 -
[523] - Quote
shadowgirl9 wrote:I love some of changes that come with the update but the cargo/ item and ship hangers is just rubbish. the main reson for this is it slows you down, it now takes a few min for me to find the right hager and then to move a item across takes even longer as it all spawns in the same box, would not mind as much if they stay seprated once closed and not have to keep doing this all the time. went to put fuel in my carrier once again toke me a few minutes to put from from a pos hanger to the carreir fuel bay, this should have only taken a few seconds.
Speed this process up
I tried 2 Courier Missions again last night for lulz and came out with  I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Hothnogg
Versatech Co. Raiden.
2
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Posted - 2012.05.24 18:02:00 -
[524] - Quote
we need a choice rather than just forced to have the new system |

Lady Gravewalker
Versatech Co. Raiden.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 18:03:00 -
[525] - Quote
Can we haz old one back please this is just shocking.
(or at least an option to turn it on or off like walking in a room i mean station) |

Lizaa
Versatech Co. Raiden.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 18:05:00 -
[526] - Quote
Man ccp has become more useless.... they're like Ray Charles in a ***** house... not a fkn clue..... give us back our windows....  |

Captain' Jack Sparrow
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 21:50:00 -
[527] - Quote
Hated it the first day and still hate it. This reminds me of the movie Idiocracy! 
PLEASE for the love of God let us have our old way back. |

Jajas Helper
85
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Posted - 2012.05.24 23:11:00 -
[528] - Quote
Captain' Jack Sparrow wrote:Hated it the first day and still hate it. This reminds me of the movie Idiocracy!  PLEASE for the love of God let us have our old way back.
you wan tto drink water? like in the toilet?  Inferno do stuff with stuff to imitate the stuff you could do faster with the old stuff
-stuff- |

Travis117
Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N
2
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Posted - 2012.05.24 23:37:00 -
[529] - Quote
The Unified Inventory is a bigger diaster than when Two a Half men replaced Charlie Sheen with Ashton Kutcher |

Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2012.05.24 23:54:00 -
[530] - Quote
Cali Zindonas wrote:[quote=Strange Shadow]THIS IS BROADCAST FOR EVERYONE.
CCP OVERLOOKED OPTION -> ESC -> GENERAL SETTINGS -> "Merge Items and Ships into Station Panel"
SOMEHOW IT ESCAPED THE CLUTCHES OF UNIFIED INVENTORY AND STILL WORKS AS INTENDED.
AMARRIAN GOD PLEASE HELP US ALL TO FORGIVE DEVS FOR THIS NEW INVENTORY SYSTEM.

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Jazmyn Stone
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 00:16:00 -
[531] - Quote
I also do not like the way the different windows open. Before it was easy to pick a ship, click on inventory, and add any modules to the ship. Even opening the cargohold of a ship isn't easy when you also want to fill it with missiles. What had taken just a few seconds, now takes a few minutes to get everything set up. It is very frustrating. And when you leave and then come back to your hangar, you have to set everything up again! Please put the easier windows accessibility back the way it was.
(just adding my voice)
-Jaz |

Arch Ville
Renegade Vipers Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 00:22:00 -
[532] - Quote
I support this. +1 |

Krystal Flores
Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
11
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Posted - 2012.05.25 01:26:00 -
[533] - Quote
These. Open fuel bay on right click would be nice. I also require the ability to have rights to open my own gsc and my carrier hanger/bays. |

Vynxar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
2
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Posted - 2012.05.25 07:52:00 -
[534] - Quote
+1 The old IU was really better, the "all in one windows" is no good for visibility and organisation |

Sir Halfloaf
Amarrian Bakery Corp
11
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:15:00 -
[535] - Quote
+1 . - This new UI is not enhancing my gameplay , now i feel more like sitting ship Spinning than going doing stuff because it is a tedious chore with all the extra button presses , mouse click involved .
For the love of the Baby Jovians , please give us the option to revert to the old UI |

DainuTis
Soil Incorporation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:39:00 -
[536] - Quote
continue to play with such cargo system is no longer possible, i will suspend 4 my accounts 
THANK YOU, CCP, for killing my favorit game.... |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
606
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:46:00 -
[537] - Quote
+1 Please make the UI an option. Why can't the two inventory systems co-exist? We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |

Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
51
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:31:00 -
[538] - Quote
INCARNA 2.0 - unwanted feature - forced down our throats, and ignored when we raise a shout.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
910
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 11:00:00 -
[539] - Quote
Maraner wrote:INCARNA 2.0 - unwanted feature - forced down our throats, and ignored when we raise a shout.
I created a funny UI based "The Door" themed wallpaper.
Have fun spamming it around  Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Bleichrodt
Restless Obsession
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 11:15:00 -
[540] - Quote
+1.Get rid of this.Old way back please. |
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fruitloaf
Interstellar Steel Templis Dragonaors
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 11:27:00 -
[541] - Quote
we pay good money to play you should listen to what we have to say once in a while this is a new ship spinning incident waiting to happen plse help us enjoy the game we have played for so many years now id like to think that the customer comes first in the experience of eve |

Galliard Fokker
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 11:42:00 -
[542] - Quote
Unsub 5 here. no more words.
see you again when the inventory is back to status quo. _.:Space Cowboys:._
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Jmo3yGrSg I've got my saddle.-áOn my horse.-áHe's called....T-t-t-t-t-trigger.-áOf course.-á |

Haoibuni
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
7
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 11:55:00 -
[543] - Quote
Hilmar
You've apologised before. time to do it again.
Roll this piece of sheet back.
Was gonna reactivate my second sub. Not going to now until this crap is sorted.
|

SOLAR SEA
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 14:11:00 -
[544] - Quote
Bring back the old system inventory pls, ty............ |

El Geo
Pathfinders.
34
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Posted - 2012.05.25 14:33:00 -
[545] - Quote
im starting to miss the corp hanger tabs...
|

Jajas Helper
105
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 14:35:00 -
[546] - Quote
El Geo wrote:im starting to miss the corp hanger tabs...
If only i didn't have to acces them over 300 times a day... Inferno do stuff with stuff to imitate the stuff you could do faster with the old stuff
-stuff- |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
309
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 14:48:00 -
[547] - Quote
Who get's the publishing rights to "The Story of the CCP Implosion - or How They Learned to Stop Worrying and Hate Their Own Longhouse "?
I mean, the Vikings did have a way of forcing thier culture on others without so much as a by your leave..... I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

SOLAR SEA
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 14:49:00 -
[548] - Quote
With the new system ccp "33,13" you force you to "pay" with more time. In EvE i did and do many things, from mining ,missioning, courier,wh, industry & marketing. The new system is against to all of this. So, at that point of time, the less harmfull from me, is the market. I will play market 1-2 months , after all you can get a very good isk from there, and we will see..... For all other , well most, is a battle with the clicks, who i dont like at all. Time to play some extra SC2 and H6. Cya ppl ps. I x2 from my other post |

Akira Aronnis
Li3's Electric Cucumber SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.25 16:39:00 -
[549] - Quote
do not like it at all, please give an option for old "style" windows (even if it's just similar in functionality).
fitting many different ships and moving them into carriers whilst not in the carrier is a pain. In fact doing nearly anything is truly painful.
Also why are the ship icons those generic grey things.
Icons > Words.
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MR DEMOS
Death Knight Legion Whiskey Creek Alliance
7
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 16:49:00 -
[550] - Quote
Seen alot of FAIL things rolling out of CCP last year when i thought they had turned it around... Guess this proves that Fail after Fail you have to have at least one sucess.... Sad really what this game has become.. When i started playing 6+ years ago things were alot differant. Nerf after nerf after nerf some decent patching some cool grafics some cool ships then Fail fail fail. Think it's a good time to take a break from EVE seriously. But the fact that CCP didn't see this stuff on the test servers or even have an idea that things would not be well recieved ... Makes me wounder how they test these things with only a select few individuales who tell CCP what they want to hear. = Massive Fail ... Ohh anyone who wants my stuff bend over i'll stick you know where  |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
902
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 16:53:00 -
[551] - Quote
MR DEMOS wrote: i'll stick you know where  You'll stick? How much glue
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Susimi Mila
Infinity Trading Corporation Solar Citizens
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 17:14:00 -
[552] - Quote
1 step forward 2 steps back |

Ohmega
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 17:27:00 -
[553] - Quote
Visionthing wrote:Didn't anyone bring this up during testing ?
That's what I thought. |

Jajas Helper
129
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Posted - 2012.05.26 17:53:00 -
[554] - Quote
MR DEMOS wrote:Seen alot of FAIL things rolling out of CCP last year when i thought they had turned it around... Guess this proves that Fail after Fail you have to have at least one sucess.... Sad really what this game has become.. When i started playing 6+ years ago things were alot differant. Nerf after nerf after nerf some decent patching some cool grafics some cool ships then Fail fail fail. Think it's a good time to take a break from EVE seriously. But the fact that CCP didn't see this stuff on the test servers or even have an idea that things would not be well recieved ... Makes me wounder how they test these things with only a select few individuales who tell CCP what they want to hear. = Massive Fail ... Ohh anyone who wants my stuff bend over i'll stick you know where 
I'll bend and accept your stuff.... Inferno do stuff with stuff to imitate the stuff you could do faster with the old stuff
-stuff- |

Jajas Helper
129
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Posted - 2012.05.26 17:56:00 -
[555] - Quote
Ohmega wrote:Visionthing wrote:Didn't anyone bring this up during testing ? That's what I thought.
It was brought up, people told what was wrong with the new system in the sisi feedback thread.
But ccp "whateverhisnamewas" ignored it and publicly said they rather go with their own "testing".... whatever that might have been.
Quote: CCP test:
system looks to be working - drag item from ship cargo to station hangar - click station hangar to check if the item transfered.
FINISHED AND TESTED! I like not having to open the hangar to drop my stuff in it! EVERYONE will love this!
Inferno do stuff with stuff to imitate the stuff you could do faster with the old stuff
-stuff- |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
109
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 18:43:00 -
[556] - Quote
Ohmega wrote:Visionthing wrote:Didn't anyone bring this up during testing ? That's what I thought.
We did,
Over, and over, and over.
But it seems like some people have no idea where the teat forums are, and like to make **** up. |

MR DEMOS
Death Knight Legion Whiskey Creek Alliance
8
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 19:21:00 -
[557] - Quote
TBH i know theres some hard core guys out there who run tests on sisi and there are alot of bugs that get fixed before they hit Traquility so Kudo's to them ..... So maybe this is CCP's fualt in the translation of things with thier "LETS REINVENT THE WHEEL" idiology .... like i said earlier i've been around for 6+ years Seeing all the FAIL's coming out of CCP with only a few WIN's is a severe disappointment ....
STAPLES MADE IT EASY WHY CAN"T CCP!!!! |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
86
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 19:38:00 -
[558] - Quote
merge ships and items into station panel
and bam its back! |

carbomb
Super Team Munkey
11
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 20:13:00 -
[559] - Quote
+1 |

No Effect
Frozen Members AL3XAND3R.
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 20:20:00 -
[560] - Quote
+1
What everyone else said.
Does anyone working for CCP even play this game? |
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Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 20:55:00 -
[561] - Quote
MR DEMOS wrote:TBH i know theres some hard core guys out there who run tests on sisi and there are alot of bugs that get fixed before they hit Traquility so Kudo's to them ..... So maybe this is CCP's fualt in the translation of things with thier "LETS REINVENT THE WHEEL" idiology .... like i said earlier i've been around for 6+ years Seeing all the FAIL's coming out of CCP with only a few WIN's is a severe disappointment ....
STAPLES MADE IT EASY WHY CAN"T CCP!!!!
I think it's less about "Lets reinvent the wheel" and more about "Lets put some rubber on those wheels to make using them less painful." |

GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.26 21:20:00 -
[562] - Quote
Alia Gon'die wrote:MR DEMOS wrote:TBH i know theres some hard core guys out there who run tests on sisi and there are alot of bugs that get fixed before they hit Traquility so Kudo's to them ..... So maybe this is CCP's fualt in the translation of things with thier "LETS REINVENT THE WHEEL" idiology .... like i said earlier i've been around for 6+ years Seeing all the FAIL's coming out of CCP with only a few WIN's is a severe disappointment ....
STAPLES MADE IT EASY WHY CAN"T CCP!!!! I think it's less about "Lets reinvent the wheel" and more about "Lets put some rubber on those wheels to make using them less painful."
I think it has a lot more to do with pressure to add or change things to prevent the game from feeling stale. In a desperate effort to add life to the game, they ignored the feedback of their customers and charged on ahead with an infuriating update that makes playing the game more aggravating. Additionally, they didn't fix the things that really COULD use an update, like the assets window.
Seriously, who the hell goes through a massive inventory change, chooses an incredibly short-sighted design, and then doesn't even update the Assets window --which actually WOULD work really well with this short-sighted design anyway?
Derp x2. |

Tessla Coil
Pirannha Corp
31
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Posted - 2012.05.26 21:26:00 -
[563] - Quote
You know, my mind just boggles at the waste of man-years of coding that happened here.
Imagine where the game would be if they had spent this time on something like, oh, I dunno, ring mining? |

Akira Aronnis
Li3's Electric Cucumber SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1
|
Posted - 2012.05.27 09:39:00 -
[564] - Quote
also, where has the R Click > open drone bay option gone?
I like new things sometimes but when you remove functionality it is pointless.
Make the new thing better than the old thing or do not include it. |

Cheesy Feet
The Hells Bells Club
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.27 09:43:00 -
[565] - Quote
+1
Either role back to old system or do as OP suggests this new system is pants!  |

Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
194
|
Posted - 2012.05.27 11:04:00 -
[566] - Quote
+1. The new system is good for people with a **** ton of cans and stuff in their hangars. It's useless for just moving stuff from your ship to the hangar (amongst other things).
Previously: Open cargo, drag stuff to Items button. Now: Open cargo, resize it so you can see the tree properly, expand the tree, scroll/collapse until you find the Item Hangar entry, THEN drag to that.
Also, if you have your cargo open, you can't open the main inventory window by clicking on the NeoCom button; that just minimizes your cargo. :( Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter
One day they woke me up so I could live forever It's such a shame the same will never happen to you |

Lister
Galactic Shipyards Inc Soldiers Of New Eve
4
|
Posted - 2012.05.27 11:18:00 -
[567] - Quote
preferred the old method - so agree |

Veldspar Vinnie
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.27 11:24:00 -
[568] - Quote
+1 |

Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
116
|
Posted - 2012.05.27 11:34:00 -
[569] - Quote
plus one
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Arras Denard
Etoilles Mortant Ltd. Solyaris Chtonium
3
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Posted - 2012.05.27 12:32:00 -
[570] - Quote
I agree as well. |
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coolneo
Aliastra Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:16:00 -
[571] - Quote
Signed.
CCP dont have a clue. |

Ekan Jaytee
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.05.27 14:21:00 -
[572] - Quote
Agreed. The new inventory is maddening. |

Captain' Jack Sparrow
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.28 15:23:00 -
[573] - Quote
I wanted the old inventory system back the first day.
I wanted the old inventory system back the second day.
I wanted the old inventory system back yesterday.
And, today, I still want the old inventory system back.
Has anyone seen the movie "Idiocracy"? |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
973
|
Posted - 2012.05.28 17:47:00 -
[574] - Quote
Captain' Jack Sparrow wrote: Has anyone seen the movie "Idiocracy"?
No, but I have seen the EvE GD forum. It's like being in the movie! Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Jajas Helper
130
|
Posted - 2012.05.28 17:51:00 -
[575] - Quote
Captain' Jack Sparrow wrote:I wanted the old inventory system back the first day.
I wanted the old inventory system back the second day.
I wanted the old inventory system back yesterday.
And, today, I still want the old inventory system back.
Has anyone seen the movie "Idiocracy"?
I have seen the movie and I too facepalm everytime i see inventory. Inferno do stuff with stuff to imitate the stuff you could do faster with the old stuff
-stuff- |

Ephenos
Renegade.Legion WHY so Seri0Us
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.28 17:59:00 -
[576] - Quote
agreed |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
160
|
Posted - 2012.05.28 19:33:00 -
[577] - Quote
SOLAR SEA wrote: With the new system ccp "33,13" you force you to "pay" with more time. In EvE i did and do many things, from mining ,missioning, courier,wh, industry & marketing. The new system is against to all of this. So, at that point of time, the less harmfull from me, is the market. I will play market 1-2 months , after all you can get a very good isk from there, and we will see..... For all other , well most, is a battle with the clicks, who i dont like at all. Time to play some extra SC2 and H6. Cya ppl ps. I x2 from my other post
Maybe this was part of the inititive to make mining more lucrative by chasing away more miners... fewer miners would drive the prices up even more.. combine this with longer hulkageddons and nerfed orca hangers disallowing use buy your alliance buddies..and there you go... harder time for miners means less mineral on the market. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |

Jajas Helper
130
|
Posted - 2012.05.28 20:43:00 -
[578] - Quote
Barbara Nichole wrote:SOLAR SEA wrote: With the new system ccp "33,13" you force you to "pay" with more time. In EvE i did and do many things, from mining ,missioning, courier,wh, industry & marketing. The new system is against to all of this. So, at that point of time, the less harmfull from me, is the market. I will play market 1-2 months , after all you can get a very good isk from there, and we will see..... For all other , well most, is a battle with the clicks, who i dont like at all. Time to play some extra SC2 and H6. Cya ppl ps. I x2 from my other post Maybe this was part of the inititive to make mining more lucrative by chasing away more miners... fewer miners would drive the prices up even more.. combine this with longer hulkageddons and nerfed orca hangers disallowing use buy your alliance buddies..and there you go... harder time for miners means fewer minerals on the market.
Lets all start mining veldspar in jita! Shooting monuments is so last ccp fail... Inferno do stuff with stuff to imitate the stuff you could do faster with the old stuff
-stuff- |

Perana
Wartime Piratical Industries Black Flag Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.28 23:29:00 -
[579] - Quote
The unified inventory system blows. All that was needed in the old system to sort items was to get off your wallet and buy some station containers. Now it is a clickfest no matter what you do. And if you had SCs to begin with, your really bent by the new system.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
You gonna get aped
33
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Posted - 2012.05.29 00:05:00 -
[580] - Quote
Bring back old inventory, you dumbfukcs Every EVE player must read this http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-01-07 or uninstall and DIAF |
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Moonasha
Fweddit
58
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Posted - 2012.05.29 00:08:00 -
[581] - Quote
Um. Go to general settings and tick "Merge items and ships into station panel." Problem solved. You can drag **** onto your ships, double click them, or use the oldschool inventory alongside the new one. The new inventory system is amazing. |

Sly F0X
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
8
|
Posted - 2012.05.29 00:13:00 -
[582] - Quote
+1 |

GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.29 00:44:00 -
[583] - Quote
Moonasha wrote:Um. Go to general settings and tick "Merge items and ships into station panel." Problem solved. You can drag **** onto your ships, double click them, or use the oldschool inventory alongside the new one. The new inventory system is amazing.
No, sorry, you still haven't solved the problem. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
977
|
Posted - 2012.05.29 00:46:00 -
[584] - Quote
Moonasha wrote:Um. Go to general settings and tick "Merge items and ships into station panel." Problem solved. You can drag **** onto your ships, double click them, or use the oldschool inventory alongside the new one. The new inventory system is amazing.
Hehe the new inventory is so amazing that you want to merge items and ships in order to access and use the old inventory system. Got it. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Moonasha
Fweddit
59
|
Posted - 2012.05.29 00:51:00 -
[585] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Moonasha wrote:Um. Go to general settings and tick "Merge items and ships into station panel." Problem solved. You can drag **** onto your ships, double click them, or use the oldschool inventory alongside the new one. The new inventory system is amazing. Hehe the new inventory is so amazing that you want to merge items and ships in order to access and use the old inventory system. Got it.
It doesn't merge them, it puts them into the station panel. And since the old buttons are gone, it should just be enabled by default. |

ISquishWorms
122
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Posted - 2012.05.29 00:58:00 -
[586] - Quote
+1 |

Yogsoloth
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
44
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Posted - 2012.05.29 04:52:00 -
[587] - Quote
How many more threads and pages need to be written before the Inventory get's reverted back to it's previous form. |

GerminVermin
Totally Legal Drug Ring
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.29 17:38:00 -
[588] - Quote
Yogsoloth wrote:the Inventory get's reverted back to it's previous form.
That will obviously never happen.
The only hope we have is that they fix the problems with new creation to make it work with the players the way the players want or need it to function. |

El Geo
Pathfinders.
37
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Posted - 2012.06.03 11:42:00 -
[589] - Quote
GerminVermin wrote:Yogsoloth wrote:the Inventory get's reverted back to it's previous form. That will obviously never happen. The only hope we have is that they fix the problems with new creation to make it work with the players the way the players want or need it to function.
its a nice system, and its getting there but the functionality of the old system needs to be brought back fully - i cannot drag my items from cargo into the ships bit (in the station panel) and have it drop into the items like it used to, yes, i like being able to right click and choose open dronebay/main/corp/cargo rather than right click inventory then go to it from there. theres a few things although
kudos to allowing us to rename pos structures, CCP would probably make all the pos guys happy if you could access the cans in the corp hangers/assembly arrays etc at POS **HINTFECKINHINT**
but yeah, new system still missing old system functionality, sometimes its the littlest things we miss the most |

Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Intrepid Crossing
340
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Posted - 2012.06.03 11:47:00 -
[590] - Quote
+1
Yeah, the biggest thing here is that the new system completely replaced the old. That's not a good move. They really needed to improve or add to the old system, not completely dump it. Ie station docking and wis. didn't you learn from that? Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! |
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Kid Blue
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.06.03 13:35:00 -
[591] - Quote
+1
They also have to the fix the Filter search function. |

black cree
Utopian Research I.E.L.
0
|
Posted - 2012.06.03 19:08:00 -
[592] - Quote
I am truly amazed that they cant figure out what s wrong with new inventory.
Is it so hard to reinvent the weel? How impossible is it to keep the same search keyword across tabs in corp hangar?
What sucks more ? - not being able to see the problem (anybody is dev team actually playing the game?) ? - not being able to implement seemingly basic features (windows opening or closing with random settings and stuff)?
Is CCP prisonner of a METHODOLOGY CULT like agile that drains all efficiency into a blob of bureaucratic nonsense that ends up in "sprints" to deliver half backed products?
Or are you porting code from another development platform, with instruction manual written in an asian language?
I resubbed today only one account to give the inventory fix a try, i had a good time with friends, except the part in station and looting wrecks, which was extremely unpleasant. It s easier to kill a machariel on gate than to find stuff in corp hangar to give to gang members.
New inventory STILL sucks?!
Eve is now like a very nice sportscar with the steering wheel under the seat.
The salesman dared to tell me i would adapt to it. |

Malango
Astro Defence Industry
0
|
Posted - 2012.06.03 21:03:00 -
[593] - Quote
The new interface is terrible!
I want my item and ship buttons back! :( |

Len Ross
Federal Trading and Transport
2
|
Posted - 2012.06.03 21:23:00 -
[594] - Quote
Tobiaz wrote:+1
I like the new Unified Inventory, but removing quickbuttons to ships, and corp hangar is bad.
This and speed it up a bit. it's painfully slow. +1 |

Dorna Loone
Dark Star Demolition
1
|
Posted - 2012.06.03 22:00:00 -
[595] - Quote
The new system adds absolutely nothing for me and i'm finding it to be 100% negative. Yes please, please, please bring back the single-button access to (tabbed) Corp Hangars and the Corp Deliveries. Also let me double-click on a can in there to open it again instead of having to go and search for the damn thing! I don't need the bigger inventory windows with 2 lines for an 'Item Count' and (pretty useless) 'Value' . Dump the 'Value' and, if you must, find room for the 'Item Count' on the bar at the top. Just don't make an extra line! The new inventory system is actually the nearest to rage quit that I've been in a long, long time I find it so painfull to use.
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El Geo
Pathfinders.
37
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:01:00 -
[596] - Quote
also, the quick access buttons, you dont make things ruddy easier by removing them for christs sake (the delivery button for example) |

Race Drones
13th Squadron Cascade Imminent
31
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:07:00 -
[597] - Quote
+1 Keep it simple, Stupid! - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle
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Ad'Hakim Tahous
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
167
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 16:57:00 -
[598] - Quote
+1
STILL a barrier to game play. |

Captain' Jack Sparrow
29
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:26:00 -
[599] - Quote
In all honesty, I have had such a range of feelings from this latest release.
1. Crucible, and the Inferno pre-release had many great features - so at first I was EXCITED!
2. Inferno, and it's horrific unified inventory made me CONFUSED.
3. Continued use of the new inventory system made me FRUSTRATED.
4. Trying to "get used to it" as CCP suggested, made me ANNOYED.
5. CCP's acknowledgement of the new inventory's problems - and their promises to fix them made me HOPEFUL.
6. CCP's failure to realize the true problems with the new system made me AMAZED.
7. CCP's persistence on jamming this crappy system down our throats made me ANGRY.
8. The realization that CCP does not really listen to it's player base, and plans to do whatever *they* like, made me DISAPPOINTED.
9. The length of time this has been going on has made me SHOCKED.
10. The fact that I don't enjoy playing EVE as much anymore because of this, now makes me SAD.
CCP: PLEASE take a moment and reflect on the big picture. You have broken something that didn't need fixing, and now have created more problems as a result.
By your own admission (by issuing "patches" to the inventory system) you KNOW it isn't good.
PLEASE save yourself the time and trouble and do what makes sense: Go back to what worked in the first place.
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MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
430
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:36:00 -
[600] - Quote
16 days until the sub runs out. I'm tired of having to double check what each ship has. I'm tired of shift clicking crap open. I'm tried of looting and salvaging and trying to remember to shift+double-click if I am close enough to the target, but hit approach and then shift-double-click otherwise it might not open... or it'll open in the cargo window, sorry INVENTORY window, instead.
The tree needs to be separate and optional.
I can honestly say that I have been trying, but this is just a mess. I am not saving any time, I am not enjoying the game more. I am not having a better playing experience. I am not ending my gaming session happy or feeling entertained. The captain's quarters were less annoying that this by a long shot.
Check out the new Orca model, brought to you by the Unified Inventory System
http://i.imgur.com/InJgK.jpg-á
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nomlet
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:00:00 -
[601] - Quote
+1 |

Kage Toshimado
TunDraGon
6
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:09:00 -
[602] - Quote
BRING...BACK...THE...OLD...INVENTORY...SHIP...HANGER...SYSTEM
Nice and slow for you CCP. This new UI SUCKS!!! 
Does anyone else but me keep accidentally hitting the undock button every time they want to change their ship?!?!  |

Lifewire
TunDraGon
11
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Posted - 2012.06.05 06:36:00 -
[603] - Quote
Dont patch what does not need patching! If i want to see my cargohold, it loads my carrier, all ships insider, all items inside the ships, all containers, and and and...sorry but which dev did propose this idea??? Can we podkill him? |

Legia BIH
TunDraGon
4
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:08:00 -
[604] - Quote
+1 Why changing some stuff that works , not to mention that you waste your time , and you could invest it in something useful .Disaster called "NEW INVENTORY SYS"should be choseable for those who want it , and i doubt that there are many eve players that want to make their eve time more miserable than it was before . |

Pistonbroke
D00M. Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 12:27:00 -
[605] - Quote
useless, irritating, pointless.
no I am not talking about the game designers, but if the cap fits.......
This new "innovation" for managing of ships and mods and ammo and "stuff" makes the game painful to play, I've played eve for a long time now, and never before has a game change made me not want to log in.
Make it go away, PLEASE. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
43
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:05:00 -
[606] - Quote
I dont even...
shift click my *** |

ROOVALK
Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing Renaissance Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:06:00 -
[607] - Quote
+1 bring back right click menus, Neocom buttons. Screw this UI ! |

Jarra
Ornithophobia
1
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:20:00 -
[608] - Quote
+1
They Did not need to change what did not need changing. Bring back the old menus back thanks.
Long skill set in training.
0/ |

El Geo
Pathfinders.
37
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:31:00 -
[609] - Quote
well, seems more folks actually hat eit with a passion lol, i think it has its moments but no balance - a few people have mentioned it would be great for the assets tab and corp assets which im inclind to agree with tbh, it is a pain and i still do things the same way i was before the inventory, only now i have to remember to hold shift down...
more space, more ships, more depleteable resources, more addons that dont reduce functionality less fixing what isnt broken, less rebalancing 'fixes' |

Clyde Barrows
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:51:00 -
[610] - Quote
+1 . Out with the new in with the old . |
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c4 t
Push Pharmaceuticals Push Interstellar Network
47
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:58:00 -
[611] - Quote
Hey CCP try doing some gas reactions with the new inventory. |

Cid SilverWing
Grim Determination Clockworks Inc. Nulli Tertius
1
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:42:00 -
[612] - Quote
+1
This new inventory is an absolute mess and causes nothing but problems. |

Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
220
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:07:00 -
[613] - Quote
+1 and many more if viable. EGD: If you jettison what's in your brain, at least expect can flipping. |

Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
220
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:28:00 -
[614] - Quote
It is a real pain now to shift click everything. It's even worse now: opening cargohold first opens with side bar open, now openen a CHA with shift click opens it with side bar collapsed, requiring an extra click to find correct hangar.
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE: make shift click option available in settings and whether side bar is open or not. EGD: If you jettison what's in your brain, at least expect can flipping. |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
549
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:15:00 -
[615] - Quote
+1 for buttons and keyboard shortcuts. I can do without using the index for nearly anything, other than tabbing between corp hangar divisions.
And give us a keyboard shortcut for open fuel bay. |

Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
35
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:20:00 -
[616] - Quote
+1, getting sick of this unified inventory BS. CCP, stop doing change for the sake of change and focus on core gameplay elements that need fixing. If you DO decide to change for the sake of change, get it right the first god damn time and/or do it incrementally. |

Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
53
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:17:00 -
[617] - Quote
Eternal Error wrote:+1, getting sick of this unified inventory BS. CCP, stop doing change for the sake of change and focus on core gameplay elements that need fixing. If you DO decide to change for the sake of change, get it right the first god damn time and/or do it incrementally. +1
sadly, I'm so frustrated by this "feature" that I will close one of my account. If they can not properly fix it, then it can happen that a second account will be closed as well. There are plenty of other games in the market. |

Captain' Jack Sparrow
30
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:43:00 -
[618] - Quote
This thread has been active for about two weeks now...
As of right now, there are 8383 views, 614 replies, and 982 likes.
Obviously, this is quite important and is bothering a lot of people.
CCP: Please pay attention to your player base.
Enough with the attempts at fixing this mess. Please fix it once and for all, and go back to what worked in the first place.
Thank you.
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Captain' Jack Sparrow
30
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Posted - 2012.06.05 22:02:00 -
[619] - Quote
Hey... I just realized something.
By CCP's own description of the Unified Inventory, it really isn't even what THEY think it is.
From this page: http://www.eveonline.com/inferno/unified-inventory-ftr/
Quote:Unified Inventory - Your entire fortune in a single click
You have hangars of ships at your disposal and wealth that spans the galaxy. Unified Inventory gives you convenient access to all of it. Searching for your favorite ship is now easier. Assessing your stockpiles, more convenient. Admiring the fruits of your labors, more rewarding.
Ummm... NO! That would be the assets tab you are describing there, CCP.
So, please put this feature where it belongs (the assets tab), and give us back our old inventory system.
Thanks! |

Hauling Hal
The Black Ops
68
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Posted - 2012.06.05 22:42:00 -
[620] - Quote
I got used to the new inventory system until I got in my Orca and tried to move things around. I had to work really hard to open up separate windows for the station ship hangar, the orca SMA, the station hangar, the Orca corp hangars and the orca cargo hold. What was really annoying is that the ship location lets you list all the locations you can put things in seperately, but not the cargo hold, so you can't shift click it to open it in a new window.
CCP put the cargo hold as a sub entry to the ship, so i can choose which location I wish to look in and open separately. Whilst you're at it, make each corp hangar open seperately as well... |
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ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
59
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Posted - 2012.06.05 23:23:00 -
[621] - Quote
Just FYI CCP, I hear the mood out there towards this thing is getting positively mutinous.
People simply aren-¦t willing to adapt to your tedious new way of playing the game.
Either reintroduce the old windows alongside this new "explorer" or start wondering who is going to get fired next when the subs start falling earnestly on the launch of Guild Wars 2.
.02 isk. |

Captain' Jack Sparrow
32
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Posted - 2012.06.05 23:25:00 -
[622] - Quote
Hauling Hal wrote:CCP put the cargo hold as a sub entry to the ship, so i can choose which location I wish to look in and open separately. Whilst you're at it, make each corp hangar open seperately as well...
LOL. Kind of sounds like the old way of doing things... +1
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
96
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Posted - 2012.06.05 23:26:00 -
[623] - Quote
-1 |

Miss Doggy
Volcano Systems
7
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Posted - 2012.06.06 05:51:00 -
[624] - Quote
I cannot stand this new inventory system. Having a Rorqual's cargo open, rorqual's corp hangers open, it's fuel bay open, and trying to move things in and out with this new system, and the corp hanger in the station and my own items hanger, and I run screaming from the building yelling at the top of my lungs THANK YOU AGAIN CCP!
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
You guys really should actually play the game more so you realize what a mess you've made! STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES. |

Adeena Torcfist
Dark Underground Forces
34
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Posted - 2012.06.06 17:53:00 -
[625] - Quote
im allways looking for them hangar buttons. Its very annoying, & needs re-implementing. Im sick of it. I can see WHY they did this UI upgrade, but, it really isnt for me, & ive still got multiple windows all over the place, because theres times i NEED to see what im dragging where.
MUST HAVE MOAR BUTTONS!  |

Tank Fila
XIDAEN EDEN Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.06 18:07:00 -
[626] - Quote
OMG!!!!!!! I tried for 15 mins to load some missles and had to break down and ask like a noob how to do it. Please "UNFIX" this fix. |

shadowgirl9
Get Out of Pod Free Card The Forgotten Templars
8
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Posted - 2012.06.07 20:44:00 -
[627] - Quote
no after a week or so have having this stupid UI i have gotten a little fast at using it but ITS STILL SLOW. It takes a good min to find the hanger i am looking for and to MOVE something from one hanger to anther takes to long. then even when i ctrl and click to seperate the window some time i just closes the whole window or does nothing - love the response from it.
i now can not be asked to refuel my carrier after every use as i feel like crying for the amount of time it takes to find the window in some small window, if it is at a pos gd luck at all with all the stuff in that list, then seprating the windows to relize it closed all my windows and have to start again, it would be faster for me to self destruct than to move something in the same amount of time. |

Beef Strokenhoff
The Logistical Nightmare
0
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Posted - 2012.06.08 15:37:00 -
[628] - Quote
The Unified Inventory is a complete time waster and is not easy to use at all. The Unified Inventory disgusts me.  |

Buschwhacker
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.08 15:59:00 -
[629] - Quote
+1
Everytime I dock it takes 30 secs to load my stuff. |

Captain' Jack Sparrow
35
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:49:00 -
[630] - Quote
I have been having a conversation about this with a GM via petition since the first day of the change.
In his last response to me, he told me that although he agrees with some of my concerns, he is unable to communicate those issues to the devs. WHAT?!?
So he directed me to A DIFFERENT THREAD which is supposed to be the "official" thread the devs read.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112481
I hope everyone can head on over there and get some action done.
Thanks!
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Captain' Jack Sparrow
35
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:39:00 -
[631] - Quote
OK, so now a DEV told me that there is a NEW "official" thread on this.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117617
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Lord Meriak
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
10
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Posted - 2012.06.09 06:26:00 -
[632] - Quote
Take everyone alot longer to access the corp hanger. Looks good but we all know it sux. Dont let the inf* guy near anymore of the changes, back to sweeping up for him |

nestafarios
Shadow Operations Inc. Persona Non Gratis
11
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Posted - 2012.06.09 07:23:00 -
[633] - Quote
Um so remind me again why , and what was wrong woth the old system. and why it was fixed when it really was not broken to begin with.
I can get used to it if I have to but it is definately not a very user freindly UI, again don't fix the things that aint broke!! |

Kevin Tsutola
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:09:00 -
[634] - Quote
Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back: - Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again. EDIT: Now having played a bit more, and me being a pirate. I like the new missile effects and the new killmails. Also the value shown of all items in a hangar is nice. But please also fix the above. EDIT 2: Some other told you so before ... Yet they went ahead with the change.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104539&find=unreadCCP we also like to have multiple windows open that don't reset with a session change. People find it difficult to mine, run missions, browse pos inventory. And I havent touched yet the subject where you multibox, where u preset your screen for a specific task. And then the inventory resets itself each time, making it a pain to multibox. NEW DEVBLOG CCP Soundwave wrote:Hello Spacefriends
We've been collecting and planning changes to the unified inventory system based on the various threads currently on the forums. The list right now is comprised of the issues we feel are most urgent after reviewing the feedback and by no means the final list of what will be fixed. It is a list of what we-¦re fixing right now and we can certainly add more stuff to be added when the schedule is a bit calmer.
Changes that are currently in production (being done as you're reading this)
Dealing with the multiple inventories of a POS is a nightmare and our first package will hopefully mitigate that. These are the changes weGÇÖre making: POS structures will go into a tree view, so guns will have their own category and so on. This should make it less cluttered and users can pick exactly which module group theyGÇÖre interested in. WeGÇÖre going to allow renaming of all POS structures, this should let players navigate more easily in the tree view, instead of a large group of identical items. Structures you can interact with and canGÇÖt interact with will be clearly marked, so the tree view will tell you which ones you can open and which ones you canGÇÖt (basically what youGÇÖre in range of, similar to the overview) Next up after that!
Shift-clicking works fine, but like with all shortcuts, you need to know it exists. WeGÇÖre going to allow inventories to be GÇ£dragged outGÇ¥ of the main UI. ItGÇÖs basically the same functionality as shift clicking, but instead of being hidden behind a hotkey, you can simply drag and drop it out with your mouse. Your active ship will be available both through the current tree but it will also be available in the hangar tree, to avoid confusion. When you use a shortcut to open a specific bay, it will open in GÇ£separatedGÇ¥ mode, with the tree view compact so you can quickly get the view you want. The main UI will always be available from the Neocom, even when you have separated windows open. Two issues weGÇÖll fix but have not found the exact solution to
There are two things we-¦d really like to change but don-¦t have a nailed down solution to just yet.
One is persisting windows that only work in certain places (you have a window that only works in the station and you want it to be open and in the same location the next time you dock for example).
The other is some sort of visualization of your ship in the inventory. Whether itGÇÖs a thumbnail or something else isnGÇÖt sure, but weGÇÖre working to hammer these two down and get them in as well.
Anyway, that-¦s it for now, you should start seeing these items slip on to TQ shortly. Thank you for your feedback!
I'd like the whole old system back instead of waiting for CCP to slowly change it back to how it was with some glitter on it
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T703
Clann Fian
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:54:00 -
[635] - Quote
I agree, new inventory system is very unpractical.
Please fix. |

Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
443
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Posted - 2012.06.11 18:46:00 -
[636] - Quote
To make it short: rebuild the old UI with the new code and bring ALL former functions back!
Over and out. O7 I can't play EVE at present. Because of THIS: http://i50.tinypic.com/2ez1wz4.jpg |

Mira Stargazer
Epic Warfare
22
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Posted - 2012.06.11 19:47:00 -
[637] - Quote
+1
I agree - use the new code and bring back old functionality!
Tree view can be nice in some circumstances, but I still would like to fly around with my trunk open - and without it being affected when clicking on the inventory button.
Some inventories should have their own independent windows!! I have feelings, I can smile - and murder while! |

Ugljesa
0
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Posted - 2012.06.12 10:43:00 -
[638] - Quote
+1 for old functionalities of cargo and hangar!
I went this far and cancelled my subscription to EVE until we get our cargo & hangar back!
Seriously upset am I at this moment with CCP. |

Buhtlica
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.06.12 11:35:00 -
[639] - Quote
+ 1 |

ChrisDude70
The Night Crew The Night Crew Alliance
22
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Posted - 2012.06.12 12:12:00 -
[640] - Quote
Support. |
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Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
309
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Posted - 2012.06.12 12:14:00 -
[641] - Quote
Unfortunately, they don't give a crap what we think.. That much is clear. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
902
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Posted - 2012.06.12 13:19:00 -
[642] - Quote
Kambiri Zoltana wrote:Post here if you want the following back:
- Button to open corp hangar directly - Button to open ships hangar directly - Button to open your station item hangar directly
All the easy access buttons that are missing, the worse part is all the item windows reset when you dock again.
Posting in the thread because of the truthiness.
Seriously guys, the new system is still too damned fiddly and unpredictable to use without the old buttons we all loved. How hard can it be to put the buttons back (and the right-clicky context menu items too) and make them open a new window viewing appropriate default spots in the tree?
I absolutely hate using the new system right now because it jumps around and acts inconsistently too:
- When you change ships, cargo holds and ship corp hangar windows close - PITA! - Double-click on a ship keeps changing ships instead of opening cargo like it used to, leading to above PITA! - Dropping items into a station corp hangar that you don't have view rights to keeps collapsing the tree view - PITA!
Please keep fixing it...
Here's your sign... |

black cree
Utopian Research I.E.L.
13
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Posted - 2012.06.12 15:10:00 -
[643] - Quote
Why did the MINISTRY OF SILLY UI DESIGN designed that thing this way?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w
Is it intentionally hard to use to see if the user is a human and not a bot? |

Kage Toshimado
TunDraGon
15
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:50:00 -
[644] - Quote
Can't let this fall off CCP's radar. (Insert number of days here) days and Unified Inventory is still garbage... |

Caderidien
Pro Patria Mori
22
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Posted - 2012.06.25 06:38:00 -
[645] - Quote
Just a bump since the unified inventory is still garbage.
It's a pain when you forget to make sure you have less than three inventory windows open before you log out. In my case I almost always have ships, items, and corp hangar open while docked, plus potentially ship cargo bay as well. If I leave three or more up when I log off, when I log back on none of the windows ever load until I cycle it with an undock. There were a couple times where it was bugged so severely that undocking wouldn't fix it and I'd see nothing (including my own ship, station, planets, sun, etc.) on overview or in space and docking through context menu wouldn't fix it either.
CCP just has a hard on for this new unified inventory crap, but least you can do is fix the bugs if you refuse to revert back to a working system. |

Mr Bimble
Lost Ark Enterprises
4
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Posted - 2012.06.25 07:38:00 -
[646] - Quote
Shame this thread is still running because the new junk ui is still junk.My own personal pet hates are the useless values applied to the contents in inventory.This also slows down the selling of looted crap that I salvage after running a mission.And the other is the opening of my cargo hold when I loot a wreck.Why? A pointless excercise and adds to the lag ingame.Point and click selling from my last haul took over 10 minutes time spent waiting for the window to catch up with all the crap it wants to tel us. |

E'ara Koshun
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 12:05:00 -
[647] - Quote
i want some more quickbuttons (we can have folders on the neo-com-bar, so why not custom quicklinks?) |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
662
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Posted - 2012.06.25 12:50:00 -
[648] - Quote
I have grown fond of the new UI. it has its flaws, but the filters are great and shift-click for windows works well. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Krystal Flores
Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
13
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Posted - 2012.06.25 13:04:00 -
[649] - Quote
when using the right click menu they should open in a new window unless you can shift click that.
- open corp hangar directly - open ships hangar directly - open your station item hangar directly
Don't forget should be added to the right click menu - open fuel bay of ship right clicked if possible. - open your ship bay (of carrier / super ect. ) right clicked if possible. - open corp hanger (of carrier / super ect. ) right clicked if possible. - open drone bay of ship right-clicked right clicked if possible. (cause frankly having to get into a ship to take some drones out of its bay is silly.) |

Balder Verdandi
Czerka. The Methodical Alliance
59
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Posted - 2012.06.25 13:31:00 -
[650] - Quote
I understand that the code needed to be cleaned up, but jacking up the front end (what we see in game) isn't acceptable.
CCP needs to consider reverting back to the windows and buttons pre-Inferno.
I don't stab people in the back. -áWhen you do, you miss the look on their face and that's priceless.
Long live the failure known as "Unified Inventory"! |
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Kyle Ward
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2012.06.25 13:35:00 -
[651] - Quote
Well that's dumb; who even uses the corp hanger..? Poastin with my main |

Yogsoloth
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
67
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Posted - 2012.06.25 13:51:00 -
[652] - Quote
It's really just amazing that they're still piling crap on top of this terrible inventory system.
Primary windows, secondary windows. extra neocom buttons etc... and it still doesn't function remotely as well as the old system.
Can we please scrap this entire pile of garbage already!
AT least give drones and fuel bays and corporate bays back on the right click menue JFC ! |

Signal11th
543
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Posted - 2012.06.25 14:08:00 -
[653] - Quote
It's takes 4x longer to do anything with the new system, terrible especially when I'm trying to loot w hore!!!
Get rid of it! God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

Ssakaa
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
196
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Posted - 2012.06.25 14:17:00 -
[654] - Quote
Counter-intuitive UI unlike the previous, established, one. (exception: filters)
Please think about all the suggestions from posters above, CCP. Prawnscape: Torment |

black cree
Utopian Research I.E.L.
14
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Posted - 2012.06.25 14:31:00 -
[655] - Quote
I need some advice to adapt better to this new UI.
I bought a gamepad in order to navigate better in the UI, but i cant figure out how to activate the Starman bonuses for temporary invulnerability when I browse the corporation hangars.
http://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_Power-Ups
Anybody has the shortcut to activate the Starman Icons? I dont remember if it is shift left alt + alt gr + a+ b+ c+ d or is it shift left click click doubleclick clik shift right click doubleclick click?
Any help appreciated, i d like to try PvP with temporary invulnerability when i use gamepad.
If i find a mushroom icon , will my active ship icon turn fluorescent rainbow too ? I really like that plain green color but that would be nice for sure. |

Lex Avril
Funk Soul Brothers High Rollers
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 21:37:00 -
[656] - Quote
Yes, the new inventory is improved. At the introduction it was crap. It is improved crap now.
I'm completely unhappy with it, even after the 'get-used-to-it' period. I'm not getting used to it.
If CCP would not ignore us, I would like to tell them to give us the old, functionning inventory back. |

Mons Pubis Giganticus
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.06.26 00:50:00 -
[657] - Quote
can i have time to think about it first? |

Balder Verdandi
Czerka. The Methodical Alliance
61
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:13:00 -
[658] - Quote
Ssakaa wrote:Counter-intuitive UI unlike the previous, established, one. (exception: filters)
Please think about all the suggestions from posters above, CCP.
I have station containers. I have at least a dozen in every station I have stuff in, and all of them have descriptive names so I know what they contain (i.e., "Skillbooks", "Hybrid Ammo", "Projectile Ammo", "T2 Hardware", etc..). I even bought a blueprint so I could make copies and take them to places where I need them, and then just produce them. This is my way of filtering, knowing what I have and where its at, all from the "Assets" button on my Neo-Com.
Filters will fail because they are tied into the UI.
Station containers won't.
I don't stab people in the back. -áWhen you do, you miss the look on their face and that's priceless.
Long live the failure known as "Unified Inventory"! |

Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
94
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:19:00 -
[659] - Quote
I know that the UI devs hate usability and all, so I'm sure they only left the hotkeys in because they missed them, but anyway my days are filled now with alt-N for ships and alt-G for items. I still treat ships vs. items as different, because they ******* ARE different, and still open them in distinct ways. It's just less convenient.
Anyway, can they get around to removing the selected items window, so I can use hotkeys for that? And maybe they can make the modules to the right of the HUD non-clickable, so that I can ever use alt- and ctrl- function keys. |

Tesal
27
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:47:00 -
[660] - Quote
UI still sucks . |
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Sinister Zed
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:51:00 -
[661] - Quote
Bring the buttons back and stop messing with stuff! It's dreadful as is.
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Mons Pubis Giganticus
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.06.26 19:24:00 -
[662] - Quote
i still do not agree. |

Sardia Jax
Valar Morghulis. Gentlemen's Agreement
0
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Posted - 2012.06.26 19:47:00 -
[663] - Quote
After an 18 month break, coming back to eve and having those 3 buttons missing was quite a shock. this new inventory is a total mess imo. +1 |

Beef Strokenhoff
The Logistical Nightmare
0
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Posted - 2012.06.26 19:47:00 -
[664] - Quote
Yep, still crap! |

Bruce Wie
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.06.27 01:08:00 -
[665] - Quote
Totally agree --- lets get rid of this god awful tiered inventory |

Dirk Magnum
Sarz'na Khumatari
262
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Posted - 2012.06.27 01:27:00 -
[666] - Quote
The UI needs more modifications now than it ever did in recent years, mainly because just for starters it would be an improvement to fully revert to the pre-Crucible UI as a short-term fix while you work on making the following permanent: make the quickbar customizable FFS, and allow us to minimize chat windows on-screen. Tiered inventory or whatever they're calling it may be good for a certain type of player, but it's ridiculously clumsy for people who are dragging around invidividual ship modules and cargo to station hangars, moving ammo to cargoholds and drones to drone bays in small quantities but on a regular basis.
So: 1. customizable quickbar 2. on-screen minimized chat windows 3. customizable inventory screen
In that order of priority, preferably. "For example, if you are thinking about selling a Republic Fleet Firetail as a regular Firetail, be sure that the market volume is high on regular Firetails and that there are plenty of buy/sell contracts for Republic Fleet Firetails. [...] The players most interested in Republic Fleet Firetails are going to be players flying regular ones."-á -- PB |

Kage Toshimado
TunDraGon
18
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Posted - 2012.06.27 13:11:00 -
[667] - Quote
Change is not something which has a moral character. It is a process which leads from one state to another. So applauding change on it's own, CCP, is foolish at best.
You have to look at the old state and the new and ask yourself, is what it is becoming an improvement over what it was? If the answer is yes, then that change was good. If the answer was no, then that change was bad.
This change to the ship / inventory was beyond bad. If you can't realize this by now, after all of the feedback CCP, you are only fooling yourselves. In the meantime, you will keep losing players. No big deal right? |

Sevena Black
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2012.06.27 13:18:00 -
[668] - Quote
I dont mind the change. I got used to it pretty quickly. I'm not sure why they removed the buttons altogether tho.
Give it some more time would be my advice. |

Beef Strokenhoff
The Logistical Nightmare
1
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:58:00 -
[669] - Quote
Sevena Black wrote:I dont mind the change. I got used to it pretty quickly. I'm not sure why they removed the buttons altogether tho.
Give it some more time would be my advice.
Your advice has been given multiple times, and taken multiple times... Look, it's not about "giving something time, and we'll get used to it".
The system sucks. You can't get used to something that sucks. If your car had oval tires, could you drive it? I suppose you could, but given time would you ever get used to it?
The lag from using the inventory is bad. It's making the game a pain when you're trying to open things up and move items. You can't get "used to" lag.
Not having a ship icon on the neocom for quick access is stupid. I have been playing this game for over 6 years. I am used to having a button there, and not having it makes me hit the un-dock button all the time. I can't get used to not having that button there.
These posts on "give it time" or "you'll get used to it" - I'm telling you it's not about getting used to something. I can get used to seeing ships like the Amarr color scheme being "changed" because honestly it doesn't effect how I play the game. When the game mechanics are changed so drastically like they were in the inventory, it really isn't something most of us can "get used to".
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Mr Bimble
Lost Ark Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:08:00 -
[670] - Quote
Great thread,keeps on rolling.UI is not easy on the fingers,everything has to be clicked twice.And the absolutely useless estimated value of hold and hangar contents is a nasty nasty piece of lag ****.If it wasnt for the fact that Ive got a long account paid up I'd bugger off and sit in the sunshine instead of hiding in the dark with a gaming addiction. |
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Dilphage
the Ludgate
0
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Posted - 2012.07.29 18:33:00 -
[671] - Quote
After a break I come back to this cluster **** of an item/ship arrangement. NOT COOL. I support giving the option to change back to old inventory. Much like how walking in station is an option. Just be cool CCP, just be cool.
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black cree
Utopian Research I.E.L.
35
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Posted - 2012.07.30 10:10:00 -
[672] - Quote
i need a tutorial for the UI. |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1208
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Posted - 2012.07.30 12:34:00 -
[673] - Quote
:first world problems: My homeboys tried to warn me But that butt you got makes me so horny |

Ramiel Wayfarer
0
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:48:00 -
[674] - Quote
I support giving the option to change back to old inventory. |

Cadfael Maelgwyn
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:49:00 -
[675] - Quote
Damn you necroposters.
All of you.
EDIT: Directed at Dilphage. A month, really? |

Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
69
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Posted - 2012.08.06 19:28:00 -
[676] - Quote
i agree the quikly item to hanger was great now i need to open cargo first then accept mision then go to the hanger drag the item ot my ship pff some work normal i have 2 windows gargo and warehouse/storedhouse easy to drag between them without searching trou all my ****. |

Garreth Vlox
Sons Of 0din Dark Therapy
44
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Posted - 2012.08.06 19:58:00 -
[677] - Quote
Posting in a why the **** did we have to replace the one UI system I liked with one that makes me want to find the guy who changed it at fanfest and "discuss" the reasons it was a bad idea.
Please stop changing functional things so you can say you "did something" all you do is break them.
TL:DR put the items interface back the way it was. |

Anubis Star
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.08.06 20:05:00 -
[678] - Quote
Yeah, lets get rid of one of the best features from the last months |

Signal11th
637
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Posted - 2012.08.07 07:40:00 -
[679] - Quote
Anubis Star wrote:Yeah, lets get rid of one of the best features from the last months
If you think this is a good feature I'd imagine you have a thing for whips and chains and a bit of bondage??? God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
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