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maxta destroyer
Vanguards of Paragon The Azrael Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.29 09:46:00 -
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i tried my best to skim through the posts so i hope im not repeating on whats already been said,
Can we have a shortcut icon in the left margin to our ship hanger again, that was realy usefull, its fine to still have teh ship hanger in the unified inventory but would be great to still have a short cut to get there fast for changing ships to pvp in null sec where seconds count,
and also a corp hanger button, we are used to using this, so putting these back may bring back some great points of the last system and make it easier to use for everyone.
Id like to still have short cuts to my drone bay and cargo bay that can spawn seporate window to drop and drag to. this makes reloading ammo and drones fast and functional. the shift click is not only un natural but it gets some what frustrating trying to open the right windows to reload, and tbh you are never going to have you drone window open by its self or your cargo for that matter so makes sence to make it open in a seporate window by default,
hope you have success in making this new inventory some what more functional in a timely manner,
Thanks for the great work guys
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TravelBuoy
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2012.05.29 10:16:00 -
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Another mistake. When someone changing his active ship to other ship, inventory not change the contents of cargohold. The position on treepanel moving to previously used ship folder.
Check it. Open your cargohold on station and see you have there 1000 missiles (or something what u have in your cargo) for your missile launcher. Now change your ship to other one. What happening ? Nothing!!! No matter if you changed to a cov-ops your previous ship and you have there combat probes in your cargo. You still will see there 1000 missiles, because the UI not change to the active ship cargo hold, just staying on at the previously used ship folder on the treepanel. |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
78
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Posted - 2012.05.29 10:32:00 -
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TravelBuoy wrote:Another mistake. When someone changing his active ship to other ship, inventory not change the contents of cargohold. The position on treepanel moving to previously used ship folder.
Check it. Open your cargohold on station and see you have there 1000 missiles (or something what u have in your cargo) for your missile launcher. Now change your ship to other one. What happening ? Nothing!!! No matter if you changed to a cov-ops your previous ship and you have there combat probes in your cargo. You still will see there 1000 missiles, because the UI not change to the active ship cargo hold, just staying on at the previously used ship folder on the treepanel.
Every aspect-fearure of new UI is just pathetic. |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
1217
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Posted - 2012.05.29 10:36:00 -
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Quick update
As you guys know, we're rolling out a bunch of changes today. Sometime later this afternoon, I'll update the thread with some of the changes coming next, hopefully on Friday. |
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May O'Neez
Flying Blacksmiths
15
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Posted - 2012.05.29 10:42:00 -
[425] - Quote
I'm looking forward to this one :D (and following as well).
Any chance that the issues with state of windows has been fixed, or is it for later ? There's still a lot of cases where the windows open/reopen/reset when we try to duplicate inventory views and dock/undock stations. |
Bent Barrel
52
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Posted - 2012.05.29 10:43:00 -
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not playing atm, just logging in and changing skills, so I did not use the new system much.
so far I like how it looks. however it does not stay open between sessions.
the old inventory, I hade hangar+ships open in station as 2 tabs in a window and no cargo hold open in space. when I undocked/docked/reloged the windows opened in their last positions and as I left them. however the new inventory window does not open automaticaly (even pined) when I relog while I left it open. |
Sudhana
Universal Exports
0
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Posted - 2012.05.29 10:44:00 -
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hey soundwaves
are we able to search our station container in assets window remotely now? if not, can you guys get that done?
thank you |
Sir Halfloaf
Amarrian Bakery Corp
18
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:21:00 -
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Lord Loco wrote:Ishanmae wrote:Nice changes, I like it!
Also... thanks guys for being working and monitoring the threads on a Sunday! Agree, but they are still not doing was the most of us want: A option to work with the inventory like the old one. And they ar still not answering why they ignored the feedbck from sisi
This is exactly what i want .. the new ui does not retain opened windows upon undock /redock , If ccp gives me the options to mimic the old UI using the new ui tech then i will be delighted and will shut up |
TTIGER
nul-li-fy RED.OverLord
14
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:23:00 -
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CCP censor is best censor
CCP optimal i replied to soundvawe but it deleted ,im repeating it again ;
You = CCP HQ had been put a time waster and lag creator to game . This U-¦I is moronic beyond words ,you are wasting our time for things we were doing with one click.
Movinf stuff around became a pain , warping to a pos to use jump bridge is dropping FPS , salvaging/looting became a torture ,poss tuff another story. You breached one basic principle when you made this crap UI ''change has to be better equal not worse/harder '' . I guess CCP still had not design principles in house but worst is obviously you even not used this crap personally .
Nail in the coffin was removal of the shortcuts (right click menu and ship hangar ) .
Repeating last time show respect to my time dont waste if you waste my time dont wait respect and busineess from me.
I hope you and CCP get it now what you did.
CCP Optimal wrote:I've not been able to be very active on the forums for the last couple of days simple because my time is better spent fixing defects as it is.
First, on the SISI thing; it's true that we let a few issues slip us and that's regrettable, but it is simply a fact that not all issues surface on test servers.
I beg you to honestly give the new system a try. If you still don't like it and you aren't able to find an equally good or better work flow for your tasks, tell us why. .
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EvaRoy Hurtini
Catocalypse Meow ZOMBIE KITTY FORCE
0
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:29:00 -
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Bring the old back, I am seriously considering not to login every day, cuz i cant be bothered with this new crap inventory when i have to move my items around or fit ships.
the idea of have it as a list wit hall your items/ships/locations etc, is simply terrible. |
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Loose End
The Big Bambu
15
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:29:00 -
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Sakari Orisi wrote:Alec Freeman wrote:the blog link is blank FYI.
And please just gives us an option to disable the new inventory system all together and roll with the old one. Dont fix what isnt broken.
Or should i say dont break what has worked fine for 9 years. Whiner :D I personally think the state of the unified inventory will be very acceptable after these changes (up from barely usable). Keep working on it CCP and it'll be perfect soon!
Won't matter if it attains perfection ....CCP will either change it or screw it up once it's even close to perfect. You do know they quit giving out brown noser points a few years back?
Though Hope is forever present that they can stop fixing that which is not broken and fix that which is. |
Yuna Yee
The Volition Project
1
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:32:00 -
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A few wishes apart from those heard over and over again already:
- Please put back the possibility to access the orcas ship maintanance hangar, drone hangar, ore hangar... by rightclicking on the active ship again - no idea why this was removed.
- Why is the Phantasm looking so horribly green now depending on the angle - was that intended ?
and please please give us a "open new window by default" button just to say it once again! |
TravelBuoy
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:34:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Quick update
As you guys know, we're rolling out a bunch of changes today. Sometime later this afternoon, I'll update the thread with some of the changes coming next, hopefully on Friday.
Where we can get our paychecks from CCP, if we testing their unfinished, alpha state software parts ???? |
Loose End
The Big Bambu
15
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:34:00 -
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Spanking Monkeys wrote:WolfSchwarzMond wrote:CCP Optimal wrote: I beg you to honestly give the new system a try. If you still don't like it and you aren't able to find an equally good or better work flow for your tasks, tell us why. Many of you have already done so, and we will are already acting on that feedback, but keep it coming. Telling us that it sucks won't help anyone, l.
Ok I've tried and tried to figure out a way to use this thing as well as the old one...It cannot be done. Here is why. Opening multiple cans/wrecks lags the entire game. For mission looting this makes the game almost unplayable. For Jetcan Miners like me it causes us to lose cycles which is lost isk. The loading time on the windows is just unacceptable. 0.5-2mins to load your own hold if your're in a POS. 3mins to load a Ship Maintence array. Opening all the holds on a Rorqual or an Orca now takes twice as many clicks as it did and you have to play with the little tree. Opening Corp hangers where you can read them requires a window that is so very large, you can't really do anything else. Opening Corp hanger with Security Roles and a Large Corp will almost if not totally crash Eve. The little graph that indicates cargo hold seems to generate lag. The new window header and footer makes the amount of room to see Items even smaller then the old way did making you blow the window up bigger resulting in less room to work mutiple windows. This is a major issue when working a Rorqual/Orca It does not remember window locations/size when you dock/undock If you misclick and don't press shift you have to start all over. Try picking No Back Button. The Filters tree? menu? won't stay down. When you remove Items from your cargo hold into the Item hanger using only 1 window, it auto sorts them forcing you to search for the new items. Think of having to haul in some mods for a new ship fitting, Before you could justdrop them in the Item hanger get in new ship fit the mods cause they were at the bottom of the items. Now drop them in, get in new ship and SEARCH for mods they're not at the bottom like they were they're sorted in with everything else..... The search function on the new UI RESETS every time you change Hangers/hold this makes locating a specific item a pain. Moving large amounts of items generates Lag or results in some Items not being moved. It is now stupidly easy to drop something in the wrong location.....forcing you to go look for it. Previously if you had Tab 2 in your Orca Corp hanger opened and then opened POS Corp Hanger or SAA Tab 2 would open by default. Now it just opens the 1st tab. The loot all button does NOT stack ore in the holds nor does it give you the option to take just as much ore as will fit in your hold it's all or nothing. EVERYTHING to do with dealing with items now takes LONGER and is harder to do. This system IMHO is a step BACKWARD in that it is not simple to operate. You are forcing us for some reason I cannot fathom to use a system that is inherently more difficult to operate then the old one. This is not a "get used to it issue" This system is not as intelligent as the old one. A great number of your CUSTOMERS, are upset about your product. You need to be willing to accept that while someone thought this was the way to go, your CUSTOMERS, the people you work for, the people who PAY you for your product DO NOT LIKE IT. Do us all a favor. Admit the mistake and correct it This CCP Optimal wrote: and I must stretch what has already been stated that reverting the entire thing is not an option (It's also as good as technically impossible). Is IMHO the wrong thing to say. Most people will read it as "this is what you will now use. Get used to it." Also CCP made it, CCP can UNMAKE IT so it is not technically impossible. Saying that is lying to your customers. It may be difficult and you don't want to do it, that doesn't mean you cannot do it. I'll leave you with this Quote "The greatest lesson for me is the realization that EVE belongs to you, and we at CCP are just the hosts of your experience." -Hilmar Veigar P+¬tursson, CEO You are failing as hosts at this time. this needs to be said until you at CCP take it on board. you have broken your product, no amount of time or use will take away from the fact that a reduction in functionality is not acceptible. the system is broken as a concept. 'you need multiple windows so we give you one..' that the hell were you smoking when you came up with this? why didnt you wait to roll this on to tq, when all the feed back said it wasnt ready?
Here Here! Bravo!
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Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
356
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:43:00 -
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CCP Optimal wrote:I've not been able to be very active on the forums for the last couple of days simple because my time is better spent fixing defects as it is.
First, on the SISI thing; it's true that we let a few issues slip us and that's regrettable, but it is simply a fact that not all issues surface on test servers.
I beg you to honestly give the new system a try. If you still don't like it and you aren't able to find an equally good or better work flow for your tasks, tell us why.
The best part of this statement is: I do not read the forum but I will implement your ideas. Please write a thread in the forum.
CCP Soundwave: Are you planning to change the UI so, that it is possible to drag several windows out of this unified UI again? Most of the players want more windows than one (BUT NEVER OPEN WITH A SHORTCUT). They want their Icons on the Neocom back. Doubleklicks on Icons and new windows. Why is it so hard to listen to the PAYING customer? |
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
146
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:51:00 -
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Callidus Dux wrote:The best part of this statement is: I do not read the forum but I will implement your ideas. Please write a thread in the forum.
Spot on
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Loose End
The Big Bambu
17
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:52:00 -
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Spanking Monkeys wrote:Nova York wrote:What I can not understand is the persistence that CCP has in pushing the new UI. As long as a lot of their customer base is unhappy with the new UI and when even CCP admitted that the new UI is broken why all the pushing forward with the new UI? Why not take your new UI test it, make it free of bugs, ask and listen to the player opinion on Sisi, implement the changes, and then, come with it live. And in the mean time please, let us play. the inventory is a clicky nightmare. ive stated many times and been banned on one toon. i have 9 biting the dust in a week anyhow as i just cant face this bull, so no loss. you ingored feed back on sisi, you ignored teh feedback in the test server forum. you even stated you didnt care what we said, and just what we did. corp hangers at a pos. i need to access 4, all 7 hangers at once. before click on each and open in 1 window, all 4 stacked. with a few clciks i can navgate all of the hangers. now its 28 shift clciks a screen full off windows and a bloody nightmare, with everything taking much longer. ffs give me back my corp hangers back how they were, right click open, 7 tabs all hangers 1 window. 4 stacked windows 28 hangers. did a mass carrier jump, 140 carreirs, we do this every few weeks. why the hell did you take my static windows away. 1 corp hanger, 1 fuel bay. i need to know there is enough fuel to jjump, with out shift clicking the hell out of everything. also why teh hell does the inventory refresh every sec when your in a ball of carriers, wtf is up with that. you ccp optimal dont play eve, thats clear. but for those of us that do., GIVE US BACK ALL OF THE FUNCTIONALITY YOU HAVE REMOVED. deserves a repost...so here ya go... time to pull out the finger CCP...
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Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
130
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:53:00 -
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Add a tick box to remove estimated prices, this will remove a great deal of the lag associated with opening cans / items etc. Plus it was a stupid idea, trying to be polite, but what the **** was this for exactly? really, think about it, most of us sell our stuff in a trade hub where having this sort of functionality is not required. Why was it not optional from the beginning?
Oh and whilst I'm making the requested 'constructive' suggestions.
1. Add a ship hanger button that links directly to the....duh duh duuuuh ship hanger - 1click only 2. Return the corp hanger button, same thing - opens in a separate window 3. Make the windows stay when they are opened, and not close on dock / undock. 4. Reduce the screen real-estate required for your ******** UI - this one is important 5. Return one click functionality, I need my left hand for other **** than holding the shift key down. 6. Remove spiral vision when we open hangers.
Oh and whilst I hopefully have your eye for a second STOP deleting posts, if you think censorship is going to calm this community down you are seriously playing with fire. If the UI doesn't either get rolled back or made optional this is likely to build and NOT go quiet, I suspect the the CSM will be discussing the censorship of forum posts with you guys fairly soon. |
Lev Arturis
Dark-Rising
1
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:56:00 -
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Maraner wrote:
Oh and whilst I hopefully have your eye for a second STOP deleting posts, if you think censorship is going to calm this community down you are seriously playing with fire. If the UI doesn't either get rolled back or made optional this is likely to build and NOT go quiet, I suspect the the CSM will be discussing the censorship of forum posts with you guys fairly soon.
Learn to behave and no post will get removed. |
Xzen Drix
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:57:00 -
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"CCP Optimal wrote: and I must stretch what has already been stated that reverting the entire thing is not an option (It's also as good as technically impossible). "
and I must tell you that my account's (6) won't be stretch on any more...
The statement (It's also as good as technically impossible) Is a lie, it was as good as possible before we "got" the unified inventory crap, but then the new UI only affect the back bone (missioners, miners, industraliests WH corps and other POS holders) of EVE and not PvP'ers and isent that the direction EVE been moving towards the latest yeras.
Sincerly not your anymore XZen
PS If the UI problems is sorted I might go to Playing EVE again. (Lag, retarted one window system and for info read on the forums.... ups you don't do that otherwise we woudnt be here NOW)
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Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
147
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Posted - 2012.05.29 11:58:00 -
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Maraner wrote:I suspect the the CSM will be discussing the censorship of forum posts with you guys fairly soon.
Probably not. They didn't do a lot about this bag of crap, why start now ?
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Logicycle
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
28
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Posted - 2012.05.29 12:01:00 -
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I do not ever want to see that stupid hangar tree ever again. I want my Neocom buttons back. You know, the ship hanger button and the Item hanger button.
I want to single click them. A single new persistent window should open when I click them. |
Steijn
Quay Industries
93
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Posted - 2012.05.29 12:10:00 -
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Well looting is now considerably quicker, but the problem still imo is that double clicking on a wreck opens the window in my existing open window (eg my open cargohold).
Why cant it go back to opening in the default position i set it to via double clicking, so that i have cargohold in bottom left and wrecks opening in middle of screen? (and dont tell me that I can do it via shift click, i know i can but thats still a big step backwards to how it was before you cocked all this inventory lark up).
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Mordarx
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
0
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Posted - 2012.05.29 12:10:00 -
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Could we have it so we can open multiple of those inventory windows? I know it sounds counter intuitive but I think it will make feel much less limiting. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7461
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Posted - 2012.05.29 12:10:00 -
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I'll just link to this, this, and this again.
None of those issues are addressed so far, but at least it looks like performance will be slightly enhanced in this first batch. Personally, I still feel that the lost functionality is still a bigger source of annoyance. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Abigail Sagan
Active Fusion Cold Fusion.
10
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Posted - 2012.05.29 12:12:00 -
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Elyon Itari wrote:This is nothing personal, and Abigail Sagan (a reference to the late, great Carl Sagan?) was just the most well-written list I could find, so I am going to answer by quoting you (I will most definitely hit the 5 quotes limit). :)
AS2: Because of quote limits, I will use "AS1:" before my first comment, "EI:" before Elyon Itari's response. I'll use AS2 before my new response. Hopefully it won't become too confusing. (Yes: C. Sagan was in my mind when the name of the character was discovered) AS1: Here are some features that need fixing: AS1: - The new interface is laggy - especially with a POS or many cans/wrecks in grid like during salvaging or mining op. EI: This has already been optimised and is coming out in today's patch. AS2: I hope CCP's optimization has succeeded properly, and it isn't just a theoretical tweak that has little real effect on the lag. * AS1: - The new interface takes too much space from screen. EI: If you used to have more than one window open, that already took up more space. If you only need one window for what you're doing, well, you can collapse the tree view by clicking the << button in the top left corner. AS2: Yes, << button helps some, after that you just have to resize the window (to reduce the area it takes), and never touch the >> button, or it will mess things up. At least that is what my memory claims - my memory is a quirky thing; I cannot access the game atm so I could check. Also, the old windows could be very small and attached to each other. * AS1: - The new interface involves too much scrolling up and down the tree. EI: The scrollage should so far only be true for POS management. This is being worked on as well. AS2: It also affects things if you have dozen or two ships and dozen or two containers in one station - like I do. Also, it affects things if you don't want the inventory window taking lots of room - either in station, or out in space. Again: I hope CCP does good job here. Separating the tree view from actual inventory might be a good move. * AS1: - The new interface does not obey the old keyboard shortcuts, and if it does, it won't do it correctly. EI: This may very well be. What shortcuts are you having issues with? AS2: The best example I can give here is alt+c: I would like to open a separate window for the ship cargo, not the unified inventory window with all it's lag. If the lag is magically dispelled, I think I can live with the current shortcut. AS2: As a development idea: there could be a shortcut for opening a separate window for the ships in your current station. * AS1: - Shift+Click spawned windows don't remember their location & state. EI: I am sure that this is an easy fix; you can expect this in a matter of weeks, I'd say. AS2: As a programmer I am afraid this isn't as easy as you think. I believe so because the number of those spawned windows isn't currently limited. I think they currently dont's have a way of knowing what inventory windows have already been spawned, and thus need to open new one with every shift+click. Hopefully I am wrong and you are right, and CCP already has a plan to tackle this. * AS1: - I don't need multiple instances of the same cargohold open at the same time. Does someone? EI: What do you mean? In what way are you forced into having two identical cargoholds open? AS2: I am not forced to yes, on the opposite; I am allowed to, and that is what troubles me as you noticed from my previous answer. I would be happy to be limited to one spawned window per container, but I honestly don't know if there is someone somewhere, that needs to have certain cargohold open more than once at a time. * AS1: - I & my friends don't have any ships with Fuel bay, but it looks like that could use some fixing too. EI: *My friends and I. Furthermore, the fuel bay for capital ships is being worked on as well - CCP even stated so on the first page ;) AS2: So it seems; Soundwave mentions it in the thread. Hopefully the players affected by the thing will be happy. * AS1: - CCP did not listen to SiSi feedback. That cannot be helped in this case, but maybe in future you could so? At least you should. EI: It is true that CCP don't listen all that much to sisi feedback - but the players on sisi are not representative of the entire playerbase. The same goes for these forums. AS2: I could be wrong, but I think the reason for SiSi existence and players being allowed there is, that CCP wishes to have (or at least 'has wished to have') input from players. If they don't listen to that input, the reason for SiSi existence is reduced, if not negated totally. Much of the same is true for forum input we provide here. * EI: They could still be better at listening to feedback on SiSi, but it's like a few thousand players at most - way less than 1% of the playerbase. They can't blindly follow the suggestions of those players (though in this case, more feedback listening could have helped a bit :)) AS2: If some people provide their time for CCP testing purposes, CCP should listen to them. They are doing things for CCP after all, and for free. I think the players who have dedicated their time for these tests are to be respected more than the average players. The same is true for the opinions of these players. (And no, I have never taken part in SiSi testing; I expect to be paid for my work, so I won't go to SiSi. I am greedy in that way.) * EI: Either way, your feedback was well structured and hopefully helped, unlike most of the stone-throwing, flaming, yelling, shouting, and threats of unsubscription - even if almost every member on the forums unsubscribed, it would be barely noticeable in the grand scheme of things. Still a major loss if it is not exclusively the whiny people leaving, though. EI: Thank you for your time. AS2: Thank you for opinions, input, time and kind words. Fly safe and may lag never be with you Elyon Itari. forumcharlimitsavedyouguys
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Sodone Gristein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.05.29 12:17:00 -
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Here's a modest proposal, add a checkbox in the settings that toggles the following behavior:
1) All actions that open the inventory window (eg: fitting screen icons, neocom icons, keyboard shortcuts, opening containers in space...) open a new window. If the window for that particular inventory location is already open, give it focus. 2) Hide the tree by default 3) Remember window positions and window stacking/tabbing 4) Add context menus to ships for accessing bays (cascading menus perhaps) 5) Add buttons for accessing corp hangars etc. 6) Add separate icons in the neocom for accessing ships and items
I don't know how hard it'd be to implement with the new system but I guess that it'd make 99% of people complaining happy, since this is basically the old behaviour. |
Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
132
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Posted - 2012.05.29 12:23:00 -
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Lev Arturis wrote:Maraner wrote:
Oh and whilst I hopefully have your eye for a second STOP deleting posts, if you think censorship is going to calm this community down you are seriously playing with fire. If the UI doesn't either get rolled back or made optional this is likely to build and NOT go quiet, I suspect the the CSM will be discussing the censorship of forum posts with you guys fairly soon.
Learn to behave and no post will get removed.
Learn to behave? who the hell are you? People are posting on these threads for your benefit as well unless your one of the 1% that actually like the new UI. The community is feeding back about a serious issue and jut because CCP doesn't like what it's hearing is no justification to censor even id some of the posts are off topic. Its the sort of act that can get out of hand, rapidly. |
Mullethead
League of Gentlemen Ethereal Dawn
50
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Posted - 2012.05.29 12:29:00 -
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CCP are obviously at least *trying* to make the new clickyclickyinventory work.
As another poster pointed out they most likey CANT rollback to the old inventory style as this is *probably* the inventory type needed to interface correctly with Dust.
I for one can certainly see the future potential of Eve/Dust/etc and can agree that with mucho development time it will become THE place to be for several different type of game all within a single persistent world. And that'll be beyond awesome
To that end....
Issues I current see that need fix.
1. When swapping ships the old cargo bay needs to close and new open in same place as old automatically or at the least with a double click in the newly boarded ship.
2. We have to have it remembering where windows are and their state (open close pinned etc) for each ship.
3. We desperatly need a right click dropdown on the Orca to open the corp hangers in it. Same for other caps.
4. Needs to have a check box to tick to turn up market pricing info to help reduce the lagfest that this inventory has caused.
5. Hanger item and ship hanger when docked need to remember their position and state. I noticed the ship cargo bay already does this....well done its a start.
6. Desperatly need the buttons back for opening corp hangers when docked. It really needs to open in a new window automatically. Window need to remeber its size/state/position.
These few things will remove much of the nausea many of us fell when trying to do anything. |
Loose End
The Big Bambu
21
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Posted - 2012.05.29 12:37:00 -
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Dennie Fleetfoot wrote:Ad'Hakim Tahous wrote:1Of9 wrote:alittlebirdy wrote:Are you people this ******* stupid ROLL IT BACK THATS THE FIX.
and I WANT SOUNDWAVE FIRED
TONS of people looking for jobs LETS GET ONES WHO CAN DO THE JOB WELL. This. I want soundwave head aswell.. this is absurdly stupid. Hello 1of9: It is CCP Optimal and CCP Arrow who gave us this mess. Soundwave's been called in to limit the damage and do what's possible to fix the mess. Fingers crossed for a rollback. Indeed. Soundwave is not to blame as such. But because others have so monumentally screwed up, it's been escalated to him to sort it out as he's one of the top guys at CCP. It's like complaining to a shop and asking to speak to he manager if the assistant is proving unhelpful. The assistants are named above, they thought this would work (it doesn't). Having met Soundwave at Fanfest I know him to as passionate about the game as we are and am confident of a resolution. Have mistakes been made? Many. But asking for the head of the guy that's here to sort out other peoples mistakes seems harsh. Would I prefer a roll-back to the old one? Hell yeah. Am I annoyed that the feedback that myself and many others gave on the test server forums was seemingly ignored ? I'm furious. Do I like everything else about inferno? I love it. It's just a shame that the one thing they balls up with it is such a fundamental aspect to the game, how we interact with it. They're on board now. They're working to fix it. We'll prod them with sharp sticks every now and again to keep them on their toes. That said, I would like to hear from Arrow and Optimal, not for an apology as such but a full breakdown of the design rational for Unifubared Inventory and why they mistakenly believed it would work for all windows rather than just assets, which is where it should be left because there some good points for it in that context.
One has to wonder if Optimal isn't working for the competition. Was it a player who suggested this mess or a Dev? Soundwave takes a lot of flak for things he's got little or no control over. Let's give him a chance to ...well...beat the living hell out of whoever deserves it down there.
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