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viuva
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Posted - 2009.08.19 20:36:00 -
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Bring that to PC!!... Dont let us down !!!
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Solderan
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Posted - 2009.08.19 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Getting a little dusty around here, maybe it has something to do with CCP's newest game DUST 514?
DUST 514 is CCP's newest game featuring first-person shooter and RTS-style gameplay which interacts directly with EVE Online. You can take a look at the press release here for more information.
Love it? Hate it? Tell us what you think about this new game.
Love the idea, Hate the planned execution. Please give us a pc version. I own an xbox 360 but I only play fps on the pc.
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Herring
Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2009.08.19 20:43:00 -
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2. Unlike all other forums on the website, all posts here do not have to be related to EVE. In fact, they should not be related to EVE. The purpose of this forum is for all posts not related to EVE.
Emphasis added.
The OP has been reported for blatantly breaking the forum rules.
Seriously, you'd better put out a blog about who/what/when/where with regard to how this will affect sov mechanics, because people are ****ed and talking about SOE. You don't wanna go there. Bring the blog.
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Aelya Blackwing
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Posted - 2009.08.19 20:43:00 -
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No need to panic any longer. I've cracked the code. DUST is what will be left stirring around CCP when this outrageous "NGE" comes to pass. And 514 is how many players will still be playing EVE Online after getting the finger.
Good job SOE.
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Lucias Trask
The White Aces
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Posted - 2009.08.19 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Playing Eve 1) When will the Planetary Bomber ship classes be released in EVE?
2) How will targeting cities, facilities, and planets work?
3) Will we be able to drop supplies to ground troops?
4) Will ground troops be able to see Titans blotting out the sun?
5) If ground troops and pod pilots ever are able to meet up (e.g. walking in stations), I assume that pod pilots will be able to kill about a zillion ground troops before they can blink. Confirm or deny.
Why would being able to plug yourself into a spaceship allow you to do hand to hand or small arms copmbat effectively?
I would assume the only advantage you would have is money. [PANIC] |
Creed Demastikus
Bregan Dearthe United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.19 20:49:00 -
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First when i heard some FPS is coming out for Eve.. thats was.. well make me very happy than just few seconds later i read "Console" all my hopes all my dreams crushed at that second.. okay i can understand ccp want some new customers like 100k or 200k /too good to be true.. dont think those 8million halo players coming for dust?/ but while getting those "console" ppl u just killed PC FPS lovers ? at that press release its been said last 3 years shangai studio worked on this.. and nothing explained in detail "yet" ? just a rendered video about some small skirmish some jeeps making manuevers some spaceship kind big thing /bf 2142 titan kind/ shooting each other and thats it ? after 3 years of work its only a pre rendered little skirmish ? woww.. they must be realy working their ass off tbh i realy wanna see improvements on CCP they should get more customer and get bigger.. but in the process they shoundt forget us.. again in that press release u guys said " our players more important than game itself" ha.. realy ? no one asked our opinion on this ? this is your way to show us how important we are ? soo if we wanna participate in this sov thing or surface war whatever u named we neeed to buy a console.. wow i felt so imporant..
gah.. i even wanna play a Real RTS for Eve.. but i'm sure if u guys goin to make that game u probably make it for hmm Mac only ? or some kind new console ?
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Katarlia Simov
Minmatar Cowboys From Hell
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Posted - 2009.08.19 20:54:00 -
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DUST looks to be a cool concept. I dunno why people are predicting the death of eve as a result, and why people are indulging in the screaming, waving hands, gnashing of teeth and so forth when we know next to nothing about the game.
Lets not forget guys, the same people who make THIS game are behind dust, and evidently you all love eve enough to ***** on the forums, so maybe cut them some slack until we start being told exactly what the hell is going to be happening with the game.
I think its brave of CCP to attempt this kind of stuff, and I can't see them directly tying something to eve in a direct enough fashion to make a difference if they hadn't made the mechanics good and solid. I am NOT a console gamer, so I won't be playing this if it does go console exclusive, but I genuinely can't imagine that it will be. I'd think its probably being developed for consoles, and with a PC launch scheduled 6 months later. I imagine CCP don't want their whole universe being abbandoned for the new game until its made sure it works.
Oh and I LOVE how every other post is about moderation, not the game. Forums are fun like that.
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Pnandor
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Posted - 2009.08.19 20:56:00 -
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It looks awesome but I have some Questions !
1. Why dust 514 as title ?
2. Will CCP talk about dust 514 in fanfest 2009 ?
3. will wis be affected by dust 514 ?
4. Can Eve player chat with Dust 514 players ?
5. Is there a little early to talk about dust 514 given to Wis. is not released yet ?
6. Will wis release date get late because of dust 514 ?
7. Is the dust 514 war on a piece of land?
8. Is Dust 514 a name of a planet ?
9. How meny planets is dust 514 involved in ?
10. will it be any air combat in Dust 514 ?
11. Will it become a monthly payment of Dust 514 ?
12. Is Dust 514 only a console game ?
13. Why is CCP shy to show this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AelS0u8i2C0 ?
14. Will the market get affected by Dust 514 ?
15. How will EVE players be affected by a Dust 514 player ?
End of questions ;)
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Slave 2739FKZ
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.08.19 20:57:00 -
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I see what you did here, CCP.
WIS is an expansion which allows EVE players to dress leather and walk around stations.
Dust514 is a console shooter/rts which will tie into EVE and affect sov. |
Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Biddybam Well CCP, you have been given a chance to do something great. Something not seen before. Something that can still prove that you are leading the MMO field. You have created another MMO universe, making it dependent on another separate MMO universe. You have been given the chance to cross boundaries that no one has even got close to crossing.
I have four words of advice.
Don't **** It Up.
This guy has it exactly right.
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Erdiere
Minmatar Erasers inc. Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Herring 2. Unlike all other forums on the website, all posts here do not have to be related to EVE. In fact, they should not be related to EVE. The purpose of this forum is for all posts not related to EVE.
Emphasis added.
The OP has been reported for blatantly breaking the forum rules.
Seriously, you'd better put out a blog about who/what/when/where with regard to how this will affect sov mechanics, because people are ****ed and talking about SOE. You don't wanna go there. Bring the blog.
Also,
"5. You are allowed to discuss other games as long as it is constructive and not related to EVE."
Really hope your report leads to something, moving DUST514 conversation to OOP really is an epic joke. gj ccp, gj
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Red Raider
Caldari Airbourne Demons DeMoN's N AnGeL's
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Aelya Blackwing No need to panic any longer. I've cracked the code. DUST is pretty much all I have left of a brain. And 514 is how many brain cells I currently have but that number is dwindling every day due to my addiction to crack.
WOE is me.
FIFY
A happy gamer isnt on the forums, they are playing the game unless they have an idea that they honestly think is helping out. |
Laviski
Minmatar UK Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:19:00 -
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if it affects player sov then bad idea.
if its based in the realm of FW sov then possible could have something going here. but mixing pc gamers with console gamers is imo not a good idea. eve is not for kids ;-) i enjoy the mainly mature audience it gets.
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Methaliph
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:25:00 -
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Look, I applaud CCP for being innovative, and the graphics on Dust look top notch. BUT this will be a BAD thing for Eve online.
Why:
Players in eve online will be subject to circumstances completely outside of the game that dictate whether they can compete in one of the basic and most important aspects of eve: owning space.
It takes away options and game play ability from paying members of Eve online, and that is always a bad thing. It's the same reason CCP does free expansions...they want everyone playing the SAME game, and not have a situation where player A can go 'here' but player B can't because he didn't buy the expansion. Well this is the same type of situation, only with sovereignty, and a seperate console game.
That's a horrendous game mechanic. Players who join corporations and alliances should not have to pay hard earned isk to someone else, wait however long it takes (an hour, a week, a month, etc) for Merc Group A, playing a completely separate game, to capture a planet in order for that alliance to achieve their goals of space ownership within Eve.
And then theres the question of game balance within dust. If dust is hooked up to eve, but turns out to be a respawn zerg fest like a counterstrike or TF2 or world of warcraft then it negatively affects the balance within eve as well and wrecs sovereignty. Whats the backup plan for that? Is there one? The damage would have already been done and you'd get an NGE situation where the players don't come back.
My vote is to release DUST as a completely separate stand alone game and forget about trying to connect it to EVE. Eve is it's own game, EVE's players should dictate what happens within EVE, it's that simple.
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Cybelee
Caldari The Ancient One's The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:33:00 -
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Im fairly exited to see what becomes of Dust 514. If it works i can see this changing eve in an exciting way. As long as Dust 514 does not effect the Eve as we know it to much but we do have much.
I know there will be some interaction but its not been made clear yet as to how much so im eagerly awaiting more information on this.
Creator of http://www.eve-online-fan.co.uk and http://www.dust514-fan.co.uk |
puppetier
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:38:00 -
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So far, I love this idea.
A few key aspects that I believe would make this an epic win for CCP and Eve players alike would be. - Release WiS already and allow Dust players to walk with us. - Add shops in WiS for us Eve players to take advantage of the consumer demand the Dust players will create. - Introducing a robust integration for Eve Corps/Alliances to influence Dust activities; like financing or supplying the war activities on the planet side. - Ensure the balance is Eve players will have the supplies/cash and the Dust players will have the ability to fight the battles. - Make Dust for both PS3 and Xbox360 but allow us all to interact in the station and on the battlefield. I think this aspect alone would help significantly in making a successful game, I'm sure everyone that has played a console FPS wishes they could go head to head with that fanboy friend of theirs that owns the competing console. I realize this is a very unlikely case, so at the very least, please have a version for both consoles as not all of us own the other one.
I see this could be really cool for Eve players if our role is like the Dictators/Leaders in the grand scale war of New Eden and Dust is just another tool in our strategic chest.
At the very least, I would say this would be good for all Eve players if the Dust players can't create 'stuff' but can just buy it, but have to buy it from us, this would create a bunch of new markets with a lot of consumer demand. I think it would be a lot of fun as an Eve player to be supplying bullets to both sides in the ground war
A few questions I'd love to hear the answers to; - the official word on which console(s) this is planned for and how this is going to work on their respective 'online systems' (refer to above for what I'd like to see) - Will there be a monthly fee for Dust? If not, will you be charging for expansions, etc?(I'd prefer a monthly fee because I like the 'free' expansions) - If there is a monthly fee will you offer a PLEX like system for Dust? - Would I be able to transfer ISK to my Dust character from my Eve character? - How do you plan to transport Dust troops between planets/systems/regions? Would be cool, but I doubt you'll have Eve transport missions to move players around? Or maybe that would be the case and you would move Dust soldiers (not actual players, just like an item that represents a 'slot') to different stations and the Dust players than can 'jump clone' to those 'slots'. Would be an interesting way to have Eve alliances bring reinforcements to planets they wish to gain sovereignty on.
I'm bursting with questions about this game, I have to say I'm very excited about Eve ground war! I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks might happen with Dust, and any feedback on these above ideas! This may be a golden opportunity for us to guide the reality of Dust into our wallet fattening ideal!
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Life is Experience New Eden Hardware Emporium
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Caiman Graystock CCP got brass balls. I think this is a great direction to expand the EVE IP and I honestly cannot wait for more information. The video that's out there looks great, can we have it in hi def please? Anyway, great surprise... but please don't forget us PC players want to get out of our ships every now and then too...
You're right they do - but then again they're icelandic so what have they to lose really? fishing quota's? The fishing fleet is owned by national banks now!
Apologies for bringing RL in to GC - just had to get it off my chest, the fact that ANYONE has even announced they're bringing in a console game that will tie directly to a PC MMO is STAGGERING and brass is a soft metal what CCP will need should it go awry is diamond gonads.
After three years and counting in development (WHEN did they decide it's going to be console?) this isn't a flash in the pan announcement, sure they've always wanted walking around and planet stuff but this! who'd have bet 0.01 isk on it being anything like this!
And to announce it the way they did with scant information on a release date!
And the grin as to what PC owners (100% of eve players I need not remind anyone), can expect.
Well I hope Ambulation and DUST are due to be released at the same time for maximum impact.
It saddens me however that I'll need to buy a tv AND a console in order to experience the goodness that CCP brings.
Can anyone sing 'CCP brings milk to the yard' I bet they can't - not like CCP!
You insane icelandic people!!! Eve-online Industrial Organiser thread t1 & t2 batch manufacturing |
Playing Eve
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lucias Trask
Originally by: Playing Eve
5) If ground troops and pod pilots ever are able to meet up (e.g. walking in stations), I assume that pod pilots will be able to kill about a zillion ground troops before they can blink. Confirm or deny.
Why would being able to plug yourself into a spaceship allow you to do hand to hand or small arms copmbat effectively?
I would assume the only advantage you would have is money.
From the backstory, pod pilots are like unto gods to everyone else in the galaxy. They have been engineered and implanted to be uber-smart and have uber-perception and uber-reflexes; far beyond what non-pod-pilots have. There is much more to being a pod-pilot than "being able to plug yourself into a spaceship." If CCP wants to have the equivalent for ground troups, hey that's fine, but based on current backstory I would not expect it to be the case.
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Liz Laser
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:43:00 -
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Hiding my wallet until October, I guess.
We've all seen too many companies ruin their game, and it is easily imaginable how this could be an example.
Eve players could be outnumbered 100 to 1 by console players.
Anyone care to wager which audience CCP caters to and gives power to at that point?
I can also imagine how it could be cool, but I can't subscribe to my imagination.
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Damion Stranek
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Damion Stranek on 19/08/2009 21:45:40 With the amount of ignorant fear mongering and alarmist propaganda here I'd think we were talking about US healthcare reform.
DUST514 is a huge step for CCP and a great addition for both PC and Console gamers. Initially, when I saw DUST514 announced as a console exclusive, I was disappointed. Then I realized it was actually a good idea to distinguish the two player bases. The last thing I want is to be flying around New Eden with a bunch of 11 year olds spamming Chuck Norris jokes in local chat. And it WILL stay that way, because it is nonsensical for DUST to include every feature of Eve Online's space-based gameplay. They are two SEPARATE games with, as far as we know, META-GAME interaction.
Let me paint you a picture of what this interaction might include.
1. First, ISK is allocated by corporations to the defense of certain planets. Players in DUST then use this ISK allocation in purchasing their class setups.
2. Alternatively, within EVE, Industrial corps manufacture weapons that are then shipped to planets and are available in limited supply to players in DUST.
All of this leads up to the main event.
3. Inside of EVE, Alliance XYZ invades the planet of Rigel IV belonging to Alliance ABC. As soon as the Planetary Invasion order goes through, a new server is created within the DUST514 client that allows for affiliated players to queue up for the invasion. Once the queue is full, the invasion scenario begins with the attacking players dropping in from orbit, and the defenders manning Eve-Online-player-built planetary defense guns/lasers/missile launchers. The invasion then proceeds through a string of scenarios, before culminating in an assault on one of the planet's major cities.
DISCLAIMER: This is all my own speculation based on what I believe would be reasonable cross-game interaction.
Personally, I think people aren't giving CCP enough credit. They have given us what I think many of us agree would be one of the premier MMO's on the market today. The addition of a ground-based FPS aspect of the game for consoles is many-fold in its advantages.
1. It adds a new level of complexity for Eve Online's primary player base, who now are able to coordinate inter-stellar warfare on an unprecedented level. 2. CCP profits greatly from the horde of 11 year Halo h4xors who want to play a fancy-looking and addictive FPS in the form of DUST514. 3. CCP profits from the influx of players to Eve Online who now are able to fulfill their ultimate fantasy of waging true inter-galactic warfare on a staggering level. 4. New economic niches are created by the interaction of DUST514 and Eve Online, expanding Eve's attraction to a wider player base. 5. Its just way to goddamn cool not to do 6. Yes, while it would be nice to get PC users involved with DUST514, I think many players don't feel like paying an additional fee, nor do we need a second MMO to sap our souls.
I'd like to finish by saying that we should have some faith in CCP's ability to pull this off. Also, to all the people saying "OMG this means no more money to support EVE-O!!!" or saying that this is A MASSIVE BETRAYAL (To who? The 30+ year old majority of subscribers who suck at FPS games?), just shut up. You are doing no one any good, and we should wait for more information before proclaiming the apocalypse.
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JitaBum
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:58:00 -
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It sounds like Eve players and Dust players are going to be somewhat seperated from each other.
This is disappointing, as I and many others would just love to rain down holy hell on the console ne'er-do-wells as they line up their next HEADSHOT; or at least let us 'transport' these console people so we can jettison->lock target their ass.
There has to be something in this for Eve players. AT the moment it sounds like we're getting a not-entirely-welcome new sov. mechanic foisted on us. Please don't let this become an unnecessary ISK sink for existing Eve alliances/players, where we can't even watch or take part in it.
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Red Raider
Caldari Airbourne Demons DeMoN's N AnGeL's
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 19/08/2009 20:08:49 I feel backstabbed.
And beside that , how many console players tend to stick with the game ?. What if the game will die in 6 month or so ? Even what if it will die after 2 years. Who will be conquering planets then ?.How it will influence EVE.
Release it only to consoles is a fail and backstabb( due to additional fee,game cost, and most importantly new platfrom ) to EVE ONLINE community.
LIVE Activity for week of August 11th
Xbox 360 Top Live Titles (based on UUÆs) 1 Call of Duty 4 2 Halo 3 3 GTA IV 4 Gears of War 5 Madden NFL 09 6 Rock Band 7 Guitar Hero III 8 Battlefield: Bad Company 9 SOULCALIBUR IV 10 Fable II Pub Games
Original Xbox Top Live Titles (based on UUÆs) 1 Halo 2 2 Star Wars: Battlfrnt 2 3 Fable 4 Counter-Strike 5 Fable: Lost Chapters 6 Splinter Cell Chaos 7 Conker: Live Reloaded 8 Doom 3 9 Battlefield 2: MC 10 Call of Duty 3
http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/08/19/live-activity-for-week-of-august-11th.aspx
Notice how FPS's dominate the lists of both 360 and Original consoles and ALL of them are older than 1 year.
YOU qualify for speculation fail.
A happy gamer isnt on the forums, they are playing the game unless they have an idea that they honestly think is helping out. |
JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Red Raider
Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 19/08/2009 20:08:49 I feel backstabbed.
And beside that , how many console players tend to stick with the game ?. What if the game will die in 6 month or so ? Even what if it will die after 2 years. Who will be conquering planets then ?.How it will influence EVE.
Release it only to consoles is a fail and backstabb( due to additional fee,game cost, and most importantly new platfrom ) to EVE ONLINE community.
LIVE Activity for week of August 11th
Xbox 360 Top Live Titles (based on UUÆs) 1 Call of Duty 4 2 Halo 3 3 GTA IV 4 Gears of War 5 Madden NFL 09 6 Rock Band 7 Guitar Hero III 8 Battlefield: Bad Company 9 SOULCALIBUR IV 10 Fable II Pub Games
Original Xbox Top Live Titles (based on UUÆs) 1 Halo 2 2 Star Wars: Battlfrnt 2 3 Fable 4 Counter-Strike 5 Fable: Lost Chapters 6 Splinter Cell Chaos 7 Conker: Live Reloaded 8 Doom 3 9 Battlefield 2: MC 10 Call of Duty 3
http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/08/19/live-activity-for-week-of-august-11th.aspx
Notice how FPS's dominate the lists of both 360 and Original consoles and ALL of them are older than 1 year.
YOU qualify for speculation fail.
You can see a future ?
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RabbidFerret
Bannable Offense. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:12:00 -
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Its amazing how a 4 minute video can make people whine so much.
I love the concept of the game, I love the idea of tying the two games together. Its never been done before and as a game designer, I applaud CCP's decision. However, I can't seem to find a logical reason for releasing the game only for consoles. I will be very interested to hear CCP's reasoning on that choice.
I think that we, as Eve players, need to accept that CCP is becoming more then a one-game-company. There are going to be other games because thats what a successful company does.
And there will be whiners and there will be /rage quitters, but every patch and every game has them. They make a big deal, act like people care about their opinion and then finally leave. The truth of the matter is the game will get on with or without you. Can anyone remember the names of the people that /rage quit when the speed nerf hit? Neither can I.
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Trollofski
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:13:00 -
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Is DUST 514 console only or are there plans to launch it on mobile phones? <fingers crossed>
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Red Raider
Caldari Airbourne Demons DeMoN's N AnGeL's
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Trollofski Is DUST 514 console only or are there plans to launch it on mobile phones? <fingers crossed>
Console only as far as we know.
A happy gamer isnt on the forums, they are playing the game unless they have an idea that they honestly think is helping out. |
VonCruix
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:20:00 -
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I had posted this in another thread, but thought it might be helpful here as well.
From the Gamescom 2009 vid:"paraphrased" near the 03:30 mark.
DUST 514, alone, will dictate the control of "Planets" within the Solar Systems. The control of Planets will be one input, of many, that go into Sov.
DUST will become one of the inputs of the Sov system.
Thats my take. Check out the vid for yourself.
Vid on Golem.de
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Creed Demastikus
Bregan Dearthe United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:21:00 -
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oh another thing i just realized they say 2012 for release.. ha.. at 2007 they were saying at 2008 fall wis will be implented.. hah.. sooo best guesss dust came at 2014 .p
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Orakkus
Minmatar m3 Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:26:00 -
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Hmm..
The whole concept.. oh, that gives me a happy. I think its very ambitious, and oddly enough, it wouldn't be all that hard to do. However, the big thing would be to make the console game good enough that you will have people playing it for years. It would have to beat Halo, Half Life, and/or Quake on multiple levels for you to get the longevity..
But.. a large part of their success has been the ability to develop mods to improve the game. If players, on either the Dust side or the Eve side can't "build maps" to a certain extent, then it might not be successful. That being said, you can't allow too much customization because then you will have maps that are impossible to defeat.
And not sure about only porting it to Consoles either, but I can't say if its brilliant, or if it hurts Eve Pilots and alliances. Though I'm glad you decided that it would be only an aspect of sov, and not the whole cake. Still, it would be nice for your loyal customers to be able to get into the action too.. (without having to pay for extra hardware, extra connections, extra services..).
Yeah, I'm very excited to see what you have planned. And I'm very excited about the possibilities of knocking troop transports out of the sky before they have a chance to land. That would be just too cool.
I only do diplomancy because I haven't found you.. yet. |
Red Raider
Caldari Airbourne Demons DeMoN's N AnGeL's
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
You can see a future ?
If people would calm down they would too. What you need to understand is that gaming will continue to grow and evolve beyond how we currently perceive it.
The past few years have seen a stagnation in new development. Virtually nothing in gaming has changed. Bean counters have dominated gaming mechanics which has resulted in cookie cutter game after cookie cutter game. The only way that changes is if someone isn't dominated by the bean counters. I only know of two companies that are going against the grain and only one of those has a game on the market. That would be CCP.
I welcome any changes because I trust CCP to actually make gaming interesting while everyone else keeps making clones of other games. CCP isn't SOE. They have made a successful game out of EVE against all odds while many other titles that could have dwarfed it were crushed by shoddy developers. That sums up every one of the SOE titles despite games like LOTRO and SWG having massive built in fan bases yet EVE has a larger subscription base.
CCP can pull it off IMHO.
A happy gamer isnt on the forums, they are playing the game unless they have an idea that they honestly think is helping out. |
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