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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:28:00 -
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Just chipping in my 2 cents ...
I watched the two videos on you tube
Game looks interesting but ... you can't tell much from a 30 second trailer.
I've played Planetside off and on for over six years so I've enjoyed playing that type of game.
The big things I liked about Planetside were - it's scale (at one time ... 450 players in an arena) - and the fact that what you did stayed that way until some other player came along and undid it.
That is one of the things that is appealing about EVE - is it's scale and persistence.
Now there are problems with this. One of the problems with PS, as it's user base shrank, was that you had a lot more arena's than were in use.
In a game that has thousands of solar systems, each with multiple planets ... you're going to have to have some method for controlling the battles so that there are more than two guys there at a time. One planet is more than capable of absorbing your entire user base.
Another problem - is that if you get a lop sided population distribution you end up with one side winning and the others unable to do anything about it - which isn't a good thing.
In WWII Online - they had campaigns where they fought until one side won and then just started the game over. I don't see that meshing well with EVE. But you need to have some mechanism that keeps one side from winning decisively and effectively ending the war.
Now as to Consoles ... you've got some people I'm sure who have consoles and pc's but you have a lot of people who aren't going to go out and buy a console just to play this game. So, unless you port it to the PC later on down the road you won't have a lot of your current user base playing that game. Which may be a good thing as it could be a problem if to many people suddenly left EVE for Dust.
Anyway ... *shrug* it's all way to early to tell.
One thing I noted in the video where the explanation of the Alliance system was being explained was that you had two headings. One said "Fleet" and the other said "Infantry". Infantry are foot soldiers which are but one element of a planetary force. You also have Artillery, Armor and Aviation, not to mention the potential for actual water borne Naval vessels.
A "Fleet" is a group of ships. Here you have used the term correctly.
Infantry is a category. Here you have used the term incorrectly - unless - there aren't going to be anything else but Infantry in the game. If that is the case ... you have a flawed game.
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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.09.02 02:02:00 -
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Release Date: December 21, 2012
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James Vayne
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Posted - 2009.09.02 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis So far the best thing about Dust has been the hysterical posts from people frothing with rage that nasty dirty untouchable consoleers are going to be admitted into the Holy Sanctum.
Video game snobs...
When half of them own an xbox themselves I'll bet.
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Nachshon
Caldari Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.03 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk In a game that has thousands of solar systems, each with multiple planets ... you're going to have to have some method for controlling the battles so that there are more than two guys there at a time. One planet is more than capable of absorbing your entire user base.
NOTE: I am using the term ôDustiesö to refer to DUST 514 players, to distinguish them from EVE players. I see there being two "theaters" of warfare in DUST 514 - factional warfare and 0.0.
In factional warfare, Dusties will fight not only other Dusties, but NPC soldiers. Yes, taking a planet will be a lot easier if the other side doesnÆt get their own Dusties on the ground, but it wonÆt be a total pushover. In 0.0, Dusties will be the only troops involved on the ground. They will seek each other out the way capsuleers do in space. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
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Mrs Altimcaltalt
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Posted - 2009.09.03 23:19:00 -
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from what i have read here is that people are maily upset that they wont have final say over who owns the system due to the dusters...
that would upset me too at first...
but then i thought about how when an enemy is able to invade a planet... they can only do this if they own the majority of the pos's around the planet... so if you lost the pos's then without dust514 you also automaticaly loose the planet... but with dusters it gives you the ability to defend the planet with dusters and perhaps time needed to gather more forces to take out the pos's...
Remember there is going to be some sort of modular pos (battlestation) that will act for Sov of the system.
ccp will mostlikely introduce the new sov system with planet sov leading to system sov....
so in a system with 11 planets you own 6 planets (which could involve dozens of moons) you can make a battlestation then you get sov... this battlestation can also be destroyed once you have lost the majority of planets then the bad guys can attact the battlestation...
perhaps said battlestaion could be upgraded with better sov level...
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Life is Experience New Eden Hardware Emporium
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Posted - 2009.09.04 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mrs Altimcaltalt from what i have read here is that people are maily upset that they wont have final say over who owns the system due to the dusters...
that would upset me too at first...
but then i thought about how when an enemy is able to invade a planet... they can only do this if they own the majority of the pos's around the planet... so if you lost the pos's then without dust514 you also automaticaly loose the planet... but with dusters it gives you the ability to defend the planet with dusters and perhaps time needed to gather more forces to take out the pos's...
Remember there is going to be some sort of modular pos (battlestation) that will act for Sov of the system.
ccp will mostlikely introduce the new sov system with planet sov leading to system sov....
so in a system with 11 planets you own 6 planets (which could involve dozens of moons) you can make a battlestation then you get sov... this battlestation can also be destroyed once you have lost the majority of planets then the bad guys can attact the battlestation...
perhaps said battlestaion could be upgraded with better sov level...
Yay! more ammo/time dump as if there isn't enough already.
Hopefully it'll be more intelligent than a 51% control of resources dictating who gets sov.
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Taradis
Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.04 08:06:00 -
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I'm looking forward to Dust 514.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.06 11:18:00 -
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I'm looking forward to sov holder tears.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.09.12 07:43:00 -
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No more EZ-sov.
No more resource deforestation and hence Titan blobs.
then get rid of local in 0.0 space and we got game.
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Pnandor
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Posted - 2009.09.14 18:24:00 -
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I hope not as there is no health meter in the dust 514 so you can
run several mil or jump like a rabbit without getting tired.
I love rabbit hunt and auto jump button on
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.15 04:37:00 -
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Console-only is pretty lame. There's a large market of PC gamers that don't own consoles, and are certainly not going to buy one just for one game. Besides - if the game is being developed for the XBOX, then how much more work can there possibly be to port it over to the PC? Honestly?
I am disappointed. I'll survive, but I'm disappointed. I was getting excited for a while, but now there is zero reason for me to care about Dust.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.09.16 05:27:00 -
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Which CCP dev will I have to have sex with to get DUST available for PC?
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Dristra
Amarr Idle Haven
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Posted - 2009.10.03 21:49:00 -
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Cannot see how a console exclusive game can work really. I guess that if this becomes a success, then dust will after the console boys lose interest; become some sort of free add-on to eve.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2009.10.07 03:23:00 -
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I've been playing some CoD lately to get back in the feel for FPS and man are there some fraghags on there that will do anything to get a kill in even if it ruins overall gameplay.
What features will DUST include? If at all anything resembling artillery please make it once every 3-5 minutes or something.
I had constant doomsdays going off, zero visibility and aim, massive lag and with a feature like this in the game will flounder in the long haul to anyone but the most persistent hags.
Really, if you haven't already you should present the features to get some feedback on them, if only to steer clear of the worst pitfalls. Pitfalls that could easily be avoided by someone outside the box looking in and pointing them out.
For example, not a FPS but an MMO but AoC went live with full PvP servers with static spawns, what were they thinking?
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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CEO Supernova
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Posted - 2009.10.12 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dristra Cannot see how a console exclusive game can work really.
Halo 3 & CoD 4 Disagree with you.
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Kenerian
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Posted - 2009.10.13 20:18:00 -
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Please tell me Dust will be coming to PS3 as well? If not I will shed a single man tear, then express my feelings through interpretive dance.
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cheet sheet
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Posted - 2009.10.14 07:36:00 -
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I cant wait to play this game and i think ccp is pushing how games are been played now and i love that. But how will ccp keep there players playing. When there is cod 1,2,3,4,5, cod 19 on "Deaths Door". And all the rest. How will ccp keep the six year olds playing when there is new bigger things coming along. And what about the next xbox and next ps will they bring out a new version of the game took take full use of the new hardware.
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Tyrande Invictus
Supernova.
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Posted - 2009.10.14 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: cheet sheet I cant wait to play this game and i think ccp is pushing how games are been played now and i love that. But how will ccp keep there players playing. When there is cod 1,2,3,4,5, cod 19 on "Deaths Door". And all the rest. How will ccp keep the six year olds playing when there is new bigger things coming along. And what about the next xbox and next ps will they bring out a new version of the game took take full use of the new hardware.
Because only 6 year olds with small attention spans play consoles.
The same could be said of Eve on the PC applying the same logic...
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Hazel Desjani
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Posted - 2009.10.17 00:42:00 -
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I wondering what dusties will be able to use isk for.
Anyone got any ideas?
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Fi Vantage
Minmatar Kha'rific-Mintor Outriders.
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Posted - 2009.10.17 04:07:00 -
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Edited by: Fi Vantage on 17/10/2009 04:09:29 Probably to restock their ammo/vehicles.
It could be for gun/vehicle/MCC module research as well. Being able to choose from a list of rigs/upgrades for the MCC that have been researched by the players on your team would be interesting. Shared research would be a good reason to have corporations.
I wonder if we'd be able to purchase more bots to help defend/attack the planets with. I hope there's enough DUSTers to go around. I hope there won't be some major gameplay issue which suddenly makes Sovereignty unable to change hands or something. So much can go wrong and make both EVE and DUST completely bomb.
Is there a DUST514 ideas, gameplay and QA thread?
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Buck Starchaser
Freelancer Union Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2009.10.23 11:44:00 -
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I just watched the trailer. It didn't give much idea of the gameplay but the settings look right for an eve-related game. Other than that it looks like your standard puppymill FPS based on halo but with brilliant CCP looks that won't come thru on a TV set....
So this "360" thing that someone told me it's built for... is this the only machine that will play this? and if so... do those hook up to a propper computer monitor? I don't have a qualified TV set because computers do it better... and without commercials.
PS: what is a 360? is that a nintendo or what? ..... Atari? Sounds like quite a bit of money that would require spending to play one game that looks like halo
...Did I mention it looks like halo? Really, it does... the similarities are uncanny. I think they ripped off halo... I mean... it was made in china... home of the ripped off product.
It's unfortunate that you may need one of these "360" devices to play halo514 but it does sound like a decent 'approved splitter' thing for slow nights.
So who out there has a "514" device to play this newfangled halo360?
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Buck Starchaser
Freelancer Union Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2009.10.24 03:40:00 -
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Right, my last post was somewhat in charactor... showing how a PC gamer lifestyle does not have so many ties to a console lifestyle. Since I posted that I've become increasingly enraged though. I've played eve for 5 or so years and find I have to **** around with other games to relieve bordom now and then. This dust game sounds like just what I'm looking for. It's eve related and won't grow frowns among my buddies and would actualy bring flavor and revitalized ferver for eve in general. But HOLY SHTI! It can't be played on a PC... I've got no farking TV set, no Farking console device... and the CCP marketing department has proven themselves unworthy of a paycheck in my opinion... I'll pay for another EVE game.. I've been paying for several games since I've signed on several accounts with EVE and will be happy to get another EVE-related game to freshen it up a bit. The expansions for EVE? whatever... A new EVE related game that looks like Halo? ok, let me play. Don't be an ******* thinking that you'll loose customers for EVE because you have a new game. If you were going to loose someone to another game, believe me, they already left. You haven't come up with anything exciting since I've started playing in '04. I'll get a new game of a different genre that effects my EVE game in a heartbeat just because that would be the first actual new thing to happen beyond a trivial tweak. ****ing port this **** now to PC or further degrade standing opinion of your exsisting player base.
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Haxfar Portlaind
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Posted - 2009.10.25 17:35:00 -
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TL;DR Does anyone know if we can get veinshredders, like those from the blackmountain story?
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BruisedMoon
Amarr Gravis Unbound The Council.
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Posted - 2009.10.30 05:56:00 -
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i wonder if it will have the mmo style that mags does for the ps3 with 256 people on a map. hopefully wont just be 64 or some crap that would be lame cant wait for dust514 to be released
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Bruner Sabaton
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Posted - 2009.10.30 21:29:00 -
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it`s in out of pod because if your playing dust 514 then you are not in your pod?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.10.30 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Buck Starchaser I just watched the trailer. It didn't give much idea of the gameplay but the settings look right for an eve-related game. Other than that it looks like your standard puppymill FPS based on halo but with brilliant CCP looks that won't come thru on a TV set....
So this "360" thing that someone told me it's built for... is this the only machine that will play this? and if so... do those hook up to a propper computer monitor? I don't have a qualified TV set because computers do it better... and without commercials.
PS: what is a 360? is that a nintendo or what? ..... Atari? Sounds like quite a bit of money that would require spending to play one game that looks like halo
...Did I mention it looks like halo? Really, it does... the similarities are uncanny. I think they ripped off halo... I mean... it was made in china... home of the ripped off product.
It's unfortunate that you may need one of these "360" devices to play halo514 but it does sound like a decent 'approved splitter' thing for slow nights.
So who out there has a "514" device to play this newfangled halo360?
PS3 will be were its at for dust514 as its actually usable as more than a simple gaming console. If you like idea of cruising the web and watching bluray dvds from netflix from your comfy livingroom couch then mosey on down to your local electronics superstore and pick up one of the ps3 slims for $299 and a cheap 32" 1080p 2.7ms 120hz lcd tv seeing as they are just as good as a pc panel because they litteraly are pc panels that have extra inputs and circutry for displaying normal video devices. I have a very nice lg hdtv in my livingroom similar to the one I linked only much bigger with a bit better refresh at 2ms that has a ps3 with a cheap wireless keyboard and mouse hooked up to it that I use to browse the web and play bluray movies I rent. Hell I'm posting from the couch right now. :P Also never bought any games for it past some simple arcade shooting games from the online sony store so dust514 will be the first real game to grace its hard drive.
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Dannerkongen
Lootex
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Posted - 2009.11.01 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Dannerkongen on 01/11/2009 13:00:24 where am i?
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Lateris
Gallente Dark Star Industries
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Posted - 2009.11.05 19:17:00 -
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I have questions:
Will users playing Dust 514 on the 360, the PS3, and possibly the PC be able to communicate with Eve Voice?
Can we all play together across the board for the 360, PS3, and "possibly" the PC?
How will players communicate to Eve players?
Will keyboards be supported on the PS3 ?
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mettisitis sindicis
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Posted - 2009.11.13 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: T'san Manaan Edited by: T''san Manaan on 19/08/2009 19:50:20 Happy to see more "out of the box" thinking that makes EVE great, but I am also a little skeptical that this may be a flop. I'll wait for more info before I get my hopes to far up.
Please release more info soon (without the TM).
EDIT: Also I am interested to se how you go about "evolving" this over time on the XBOX. Considering that microsoft doesnt allow for free game expansions with thier service will you
A) not charge a subscripton fee but charge for updates and expansions instead? B) not use the live service but somehow have the xbox connect strait to your servers (if that's even possible)? C) just not add on to it (highly unlikely as this goes against everything we know about CCP) D) No plan about this and will just let DUST 514 fade out over time being replaced by a PC version with more flexibilaty and potential.
I get free expansions for a lot of games I have for 360, wth are you talking about? The only cost is the sub to xbox live, which you can get a card for at retailers for aroun $50 ( got mine for less on e-bay).
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mettisitis sindicis
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Posted - 2009.11.13 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Red Raider Personally I can't freaking wait.
I don't always like setting in front of my PC grinding away at EVE so the opportunity to still enjoy the EVEverse in my living room is right up my alley.
I am extremely apprehensive about the direction you seem to be taking with it though.
Not having a single player mode is a death blow. If you don't think so call up the Shadowrun team they can tell you just how idiotic it was and how it absolutely destroyed their game.
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder. Yeah, if CCP doesn't includ a single player campaign, there is no way this game will sell.
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