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Mahke Aeon Of Strife Dominatus Atrum Mortis	Posted - 2009.09.16 03:42:00 - [31] I'd invest 500mil in this if we can get confirmation from entity.
Curzon Dax Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.09.16 03:42:00 - [32] 500m received from Jadun. 36.3 / 50 billion still available. -------------------------------------------------- Eve-Online Parodies: Music To Laugh To
Jadun	Posted - 2009.09.16 03:44:00 - [33] yo ho all gave 500 mil isk. everybody should be able to live his dreams. Jadun P.s. + is a good investment
Frenden Dax Dax Acquisitions	Posted - 2009.09.16 03:46:00 - [34] Something feels weird here. It's probably just me, but eh. For the sake of form, if nothing else, I would ask for an audit to prove that Curzon actually has the much-mentioned shiny objects. Originally by: Karanth Or, in other words, random people can't usurp rights from government because they are insane/bitter/vengeful/made of potato salad.
Nuzzy Futs Amarr Hedion University	Posted - 2009.09.16 03:55:00 - [35] Originally by: Frenden Dax Something feels weird here. It's probably just me, but eh. For the sake of form, if nothing else, I would ask for an audit to prove that Curzon actually has the much-mentioned shiny objects. Why? While I don't doubt he has them would it really make a difference in this venture? You are buying not only shiny ships that will be used to make things go BOOM - as well as a bit of Eve History. This is a unique IPO and a creative way to leave behind the virtual coil of eve. /salute Awww Nuts.
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence	Posted - 2009.09.16 04:04:00 - [36] Posting to confirm Curzon and I had a little chitchat the other day and that I will be handling the payouts when he departs. On a side note, it looks like a good deal for everyone involved really :-) _ Got Item? \| EVE API?
Frenden Dax Dax Acquisitions	Posted - 2009.09.16 04:04:00 - [37] Edited by: Frenden Dax on 16/09/2009 04:05:17 EDIT: Blast, entity posted before I submitted Originally by: Karanth Or, in other words, random people can't usurp rights from government because they are insane/bitter/vengeful/made of potato salad.
Curzon Dax Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.09.16 04:05:00 - [38] Originally by: Frenden Dax Something feels weird here. It's probably just me, but eh. For the sake of form, if nothing else, I would ask for an audit to prove that Curzon actually has the much-mentioned shiny objects. While I respect your concerns, I am who I am. I don't plan on having an audit (or even really know what one is?), but I think that there's far more than enough people in Eve who know who I am and what I have (and have wished for a long time they had some of it) that this IPO will fill out in short order. Its 1/4 filled after a couple hours, and Entity will be along in a minute to make a post which is what other folks were looking for. I'm not worried about raising the capital - I don't really expect there to be any investment opportunity still available by tomorrow or the day after. I could be wrong but hey. -------------------------------------------------- Eve-Online Parodies: Music To Laugh To
Thoraemond Minmatar Far Ranger	Posted - 2009.09.16 04:10:00 - [39] Originally by: Curzon Dax I don't really know what compounded monthly means, I'm not pretending ignorance. My wife and I closed on our new house on Friday, and our realtor and the attorney were getting frustrated with me because I was trying to understand the nuances of the mortgage. Well, I'm not involved enough to feel frustrated, but I can sympathize with your minions. Originally by: Curzon Dax If you say its 200% and not 300%....well, instead of percents, I can just explain that people are going to be paid triple their investment. Rephrasing it doesn't address the underlying difference. As I explained, it is common practice to describe the return on an investment as the amount returned less the initial investment. That's simply how it's normally done. Let's say you were starting with four apples and you wanted to have eight. While it's true that eight apples is twice as many as four, you only add four more apples (100% of your original quantity) to get to eight. Hence that is a 100% increase (even though eight is 200% the size of four). This 100% increase in apples is analogous to what people commonly call the return on investment. I hope this helps. It looks like you already enjoy many of the good things in life, but a bit of basic numeracy can't hurt! Originally by: Curzon Dax I don't think your numbers fit this occasion because this isn't a stock. This is a flat-rate CD that will take a maximum of 12 months to mature, and has a very strong early completion possibility. Fair point. Long term investment decisions probably benefit from consideration of the time value of money, but it's not flat-out wrong to look at it in other ways. Of course, this doesn't have any bearing on why the return on investment should be described as 200%. á á
Stardust CEO Stardust Manufacturing	Posted - 2009.09.16 04:14:00 - [40] Originally by: Thoraemond Originally by: Curzon Dax I don't really know what compounded monthly means, I'm not pretending ignorance. My wife and I closed on our new house on Friday, and our realtor and the attorney were getting frustrated with me because I was trying to understand the nuances of the mortgage. Well, I'm not involved enough to feel frustrated, but I can sympathize with your minions. Originally by: Curzon Dax If you say its 200% and not 300%....well, instead of percents, I can just explain that people are going to be paid triple their investment. Rephrasing it doesn't address the underlying difference. As I explained, it is common practice to describe the return on an investment as the amount returned less the initial investment. That's simply how it's normally done. Let's say you were starting with four apples and you wanted to have eight. While it's true that eight apples is twice as many as four, you only add four more apples (100% of your original quantity) to get to eight. Hence that is a 100% increase (even though eight is 200% the size of four). This 100% increase in apples is analogous to what people commonly call the return on investment. I hope this helps. It looks like you already enjoy many of the good things in life, but a bit of basic numeracy can't hurt! Originally by: Curzon Dax I don't think your numbers fit this occasion because this isn't a stock. This is a flat-rate CD that will take a maximum of 12 months to mature, and has a very strong early completion possibility. Fair point. Long term investment decisions probably benefit from consideration of the time value of money, but it's not flat-out wrong to look at it in other ways. Of course, this doesn't have any bearing on why the return on investment should be described as 200%. Curzon doesn't care. Go ahead and stop. Really, it's ok.
Thoraemond Minmatar Far Ranger	Posted - 2009.09.16 04:17:00 - [41] Originally by: Stardust CEO Curzon doesn't care. Go ahead and stop. Really, it's ok. Permission noted. You might be okay with his ignorance, but I see a chance to improve the world a little bit by sharing knowledge. I try to be helpful like that. á á
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.09.16 04:19:00 - [42] I chatted to Curzon about this IPO last night. I wasn't sure what the response would be like, and whether the secondary market would absorb an old rep player without audit. I can say though, that IMO Curzon is one of the stand up people in the game. One of the early wealthy ones, before giving it all away. He did use to bet some very shiny officer pimped BS's in 1 vs 1 challenges, and I used to play poker with him back when he ran it. I'll toss a spare 500M into this. Transfer in a bit.
Conwakleferibok	Posted - 2009.09.16 04:31:00 - [43] Had me worried for a while... IPO up for a few hours and no MD elite investing. Bad sign but its all good now
Kitchie Gallente Vikramaditya	Posted - 2009.09.16 04:36:00 - [44] Awash with cash at the moment so I'll chuck in 2 billion. One condition though: I really want to see the fitout of those ships. I mean a 50 bill fitout, that's got to be something else!
Steel Wraith	Posted - 2009.09.16 04:53:00 - [45] I may chip in 500M if I can gather it before this fills up but at the same time I'm a little curious: Has anyone followed your advice #2 and sought a phone call and RL personal info about you and your family yet? Would you be offended that your in game rep wasn't enough / point out it will probably fill up without their investment or would you be honored they are following your advice? A little trollish maybe, sorry about that, but I am kinda curious and I'll bet I merely beat someone else to the question. BTW I don't intend to call you on the phone. I would just find it a little ironic if someone did.
Saint Lazarus Tri-Mining Corp Rising Phoenix Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.16 05:11:00 - [46] 500mil iskies sent ----------------- My EvE Comic

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2009.09.16 06:49:00 - [47] You leaving for good now?

Jaedar Metron Celestial Warp Ghost Guardians	Posted - 2009.09.16 06:51:00 - [48] 500m isk sent. I'm not gonna be playing myself, so would be nice to find a big stack of money waiting for me when I get back :)
Tristam Izumi Izumi Enterprizes	Posted - 2009.09.16 06:56:00 - [49] Put me in for 500mil.
Ambo I've Got Nothing	Posted - 2009.09.16 07:19:00 - [50] Ok, this is one of the dumbest IPOs I've ever seen. You've got loads of shiny stuff that you're not using that's worth 150-200 bil. You want other people to give you 50 bil to pimp a Golem and a Paladin for... somthing, we have no idea what. In 6 months to a year, Entity gets hold of your char, buys all the items (effectively from himself) and gives the proceeds to investors. You won't sell your own stuff to raise the cash to do this despite the fact that there is no reason not to do so. You don't say what the ships are for. You say your stuff will not get blown up. This is Eve, unless you're just going to look at it in a hanger then there is always a chance. Clearly the only reason people would invest in this is your rep (and entity's) and the amazing returns on offer. Only trouble is, it makes absolutely no fricking sense. Massive returns promised + a 'plan' that makes no sense = warning flags. For what it's worth, I really don't believe you're aiming to scam or anything. Best of luck to investors I guess. --------------------------------------
Jadun	Posted - 2009.09.16 07:40:00 - [51] Originally by: Ambo Ok, this is one of the dumbest IPOs I've ever seen. You've got loads of shiny stuff that you're not using that's worth 150-200 bil. You want other people to give you 50 bil to pimp a Golem and a Paladin for... somthing, we have no idea what. In 6 months to a year, Entity gets hold of your char, buys all the items (effectively from himself) and gives the proceeds to investors. You won't sell your own stuff to raise the cash to do this despite the fact that there is no reason not to do so. You don't say what the ships are for. You say your stuff will not get blown up. This is Eve, unless you're just going to look at it in a hanger then there is always a chance. Clearly the only reason people would invest in this is your rep (and entity's) and the amazing returns on offer. Only trouble is, it makes absolutely no fricking sense. Massive returns promised + a 'plan' that makes no sense = warning flags. For what it's worth, I really don't believe you're aiming to scam or anything. Best of luck to investors I guess. you are too dumb for words, but i will give it a try. the Ipo makes perfect sence. he has shiny stuff, but doesnot wanna sell it himself. he collected all his assets over years and doesnot wanna break them up. just the idea is genius. even if both ships get blown up it would not matter because all the other shiny stuff is allready there. as you allready said there is no reson to sell his stuff. but you seem not to get the point even while writing stuff. a " plan" doesnot have to make sence. it just is. everybody can make up their own minds if it is a good or a bad plan. me thinks its a very nice way to pass the time and if i could i would do it too.
Barbicane TGUN Industries	Posted - 2009.09.16 08:00:00 - [52] I would have to agree with Ambo here. There are tons of other (better) ways to leave your mark.
Opfinder	Posted - 2009.09.16 08:18:00 - [53] Can i have a reservere for 5 billion ISK? will transfer the ISK when i get home around 17:30 (CET)
Heroldyn	Posted - 2009.09.16 08:47:00 - [54] i am kind of amazed how lighthearted people 'invest' their money into this 'ipo' right after the whole ebank 'lockdown'. yet again noone learned anything from it. Yes, he might be an old an respected character, but he just returned from a long break. You dont even know if its still the same person behind the computer monitor. Add to this the reasoning for collecting the money is very weak aswell. he needs the money to buy new ships, and doesnt want to sell his old 'ship collection' for it, but then in a year from now he doesnt care.. right. I am allready getting exited for all the funny whine threads that are going to appear here next year. so long o/
Promethian child Amarr 0utbreak KrautbreaK	Posted - 2009.09.16 08:56:00 - [55] Originally by: Heroldyn i am kind of amazed how lighthearted people 'invest' their money into this 'ipo' right after the whole ebank 'lockdown'. yet again noone learned anything from it. Yes, he might be an old an respected character, but he just returned from a long break. You dont even know if its still the same person behind the computer monitor. Add to this the reasoning for collecting the money is very weak aswell. he needs the money to buy new ships, and doesnt want to sell his old 'ship collection' for it, but then in a year from now he doesnt care.. right. I am allready getting exited for all the funny whine threads that are going to appear here next year. so long o/ IMO Curzon backed up by Entity makes this a nice safe investment oportunity. If they both run off or walk under a bus tough luck. On that note i would like to reserve a 4 bill slot i will transfer the cash around 1800 CET
Heroldyn	Posted - 2009.09.16 08:59:00 - [56] Originally by: Promethian child Originally by: Heroldyn i am kind of amazed how lighthearted people 'invest' their money into this 'ipo' right after the whole ebank 'lockdown'. yet again noone learned anything from it. Yes, he might be an old an respected character, but he just returned from a long break. You dont even know if its still the same person behind the computer monitor. Add to this the reasoning for collecting the money is very weak aswell. he needs the money to buy new ships, and doesnt want to sell his old 'ship collection' for it, but then in a year from now he doesnt care.. right. I am allready getting exited for all the funny whine threads that are going to appear here next year. so long o/ IMO Curzon backed up by Entity makes this a nice safe investment oportunity. If they both run off or walk under a bus tough luck. On that note i would like to reserve a 4 bill slot i will transfer the cash around 1800 CET how is it backed up ? entity will be receiving curson's character in one year's time.. what gurantee do you have that curzon is actually giving it to enity in a year ? what gurantee does entity have to receive it ?
Promethian child Amarr 0utbreak KrautbreaK	Posted - 2009.09.16 09:13:00 - [57] Both have a sterling record spanning several years , and have had plenty of oportunities to abscond with massive amounts of ISK. So i really cant see them pulling a fast one over a paltry sum like this. All in all for me this is an safe zero effort way too make some spare isk work for me. But if you have doubts noone is forcing anyone to invest in what might turn out to be a lucrative and possibly highly amusing endeavour.
Heroldyn	Posted - 2009.09.16 09:17:00 - [58] Originally by: Promethian child Both have a sterling record spanning several years , and have had plenty of oportunities to abscond with massive amounts of ISK. yah, thats what i wrote. all the 'security' of this 'ipo' is based on curzon being an old respected character. entity really doesnt add anything to the security, because he has to rely on curzon holding to his words himself.
Estella Vance	Posted - 2009.09.16 10:04:00 - [59] "Give me ISK, I'll give you back 3x more. After a year or so. I promise!" Sounds... not too good; no audit, no real strong business plan, no guarantee that Curzon is still the same person... Just a common sense, that 50 bil. for people like Curzon and Entity is relatively "small" cash, not worth ruining reputation. That being said, and considering what I can afford to loose in one year timeframe, I'd like to invest 1bil. ISK Ready for the worst, hoping for the best
Curzon Dax Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.09.16 11:05:00 - [60] Greetings and good morning! To address a few concerns.... 1. I am the original Curzon. You need only click the link in my bio, and listen to one of the new parodies in my thread that I've put out since I've returned to Eve to realize that. The voice you'll hear is the same one that made the parodies in the same through over the last several years. In fact, for anyone who mentioned this problem, I can safely guess at this point that since such a simple verifying step eluded you, you must not know who I am. I encourage you to click the link in my bio and listen to some of my music. Hours of entertainment await you, I promise. 2. In regard to the concern that I don't have a business plan....business plans are for people who need to earn ISK to make payments. As I explained earlier, this is not my intent. The only ISK that your money is going to generate is from a few missions. I don't NEED a business plan. If I were to liquidate my assets today, I could cover my 150,000,000,000 payout. As someone else pointed out the obvious, the whole reason for this IPO is that selling rare and precious things sucks. "Man, I'd really like to officer fit a Paladin! Who wants to buy my officer fit Guardian-Vexor? Who wants to pay me at least as much as I paid for this officer fit Vindicator? Oh oh! Lets liquidate my carrier tanking Dominix. I'd rather see Entity have these treasures that I've spent years and tears putting together; he'll appreciate them and I'll know that my pets are taken care of when I'm gone. 3. In regard to people contacting me in real life: I'm a businessman, my cell phone number is on my business card, which I give to strangers every single day. I'm free with both my e-mail and my phone number. 4. In regard to me walking away with 50 billion ISK: All I can really say is, "lol, really?" Trading my reputation for 50 billion ISK? Amongst other things, I've founded a trillion ISK per year business, which I built, nutured, and when I left Eve the first time, sold to Selene to take care of in my absence. I've funded alliance expansions into 0.0, Titan projects, been 3rd party for massive exchanges (although I don't advertise).... And probably most relevant, if you've ever listened to Eve Radio, or passed through DCMI, or been in the OOP forums, I donate and give away billions, tens of billions of ISK for contests, events, fundraisers, and most importantly, helping new players get on their feet in Eve. Like I said originally, I'm not going to build a resume of myself to try establishing credibility - all you need to is look around an do some research. And finally, I'm running out the door to take my wife to work then headed to our new house to get utilities turned on, but I'll sort out new payments when I get home tonight. -------------------------------------------------- Eve-Online Parodies: Music To Laugh To

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