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Liang Nuren
No Salvation War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2009.12.16 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Exploration is good if you are in an enormous empire, otherwise only a handful people can use it.
I have not found this to be true. I have done a fairly significant amount of 0.0 exploration, and most of the time I make very reasonable ISK (more than ratting - and I make good ISK ratting!). It's even better with the new scanning system. GOD the old scanning system sucked.
I might argue that the best money in 0.0 these days is in wormholes. Last time I did a *LOWSEC* wormhole I made about 150M/hour. The wormholes that spawn in 0.0 tend to go to much better places. And the ones in highsec? Not even worth entering as a rule.
Quote: As you should know you can do missions fast already with a normal raven with a good setup.
Yes, you absolutely can do missions fast in a Raven with a good setup. And yes, you absolutely can rat *AMAZINGLY* fast with a good setup (Raven, Domi, whatever). And no - a good ratting setup isn't faction fit (IMO - though certainly some people seem to disagree!). But in the end, you can do ratting faster because there's a constant stream of rats to kill. This isn't true in highsec missions.
Quote: Stealing salvage? Since when is it your salvage? Many BS can fit a tractor for looting BS wrecks, marauders all can. Even when i make wreckballs with kronos in high sec salvaging is often not more profitable than just running the missions, i really cant care if someone else salvages them.
It becomes "your salvage" when you start including it in the ISK/hr that highsec missions make. According to a recent thread (which lines up pretty well with what I've experienced in mission running), about 40% of your income comes from loot/salvage. 50M ISK/hr in highsec? Well, with your attitude it's more like 30 - and that's if you have a pretty damn good ISK/LP conversion item.
Quote: after that an average player can make more income with lvl 4 missions without issues.
I've already covered why this isn't true. Repeating it doesn't help your case.
Quote: And average 0.0 ratting is crap unles you are in a system alone with many belts, no reds near and everyone else nicely chained the belts.
Dude, no. 0.0 ratting is *FANTASTIC* unless you're sharing an over ratted system. In which case, get out of the station system, you tool.
TBH, I think I've discovered that your problem with 0.0 ISK making is........ you.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.16 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 16/12/2009 09:18:38 Edited by: Furb Killer on 16/12/2009 09:16:48
Quote: It becomes "your salvage" when you start including it in the ISK/hr that highsec missions make. According to a recent thread (which lines up pretty well with what I've experienced in mission running), about 40% of your income comes from loot/salvage. 50M ISK/hr in highsec? Well, with your attitude it's more like 30 - and that's if you have a pretty damn good ISK/LP conversion item.
You realise while you are salvaging your mission i am running the next one, so you might earn 40% from salvaging but meanwhile i earn far more from bounties because i run more missions in the same time. And where do i say i dont loot? I just only loot BS wrecks, rest isnt worth it. As long as i get semi decent missions i earn about 25M-30M per hour in bounties (lets blame kronos because it is crap marauder, others would do faster), then added to that is loot which is worth quite a bit usually, LP and isk reward from agent.
Yes i often rat in station systems, mainly because there are actually less people ratting in them than in other systems here. Our best systems true sec and belt count wise are non-station systems and overratted. Not to mention there arent too many non-station systems since most systems here have outposts. My normal route from low sec to my home involves around 7 null sec systems, which all have outposts in them. The only two neighbouring systems of my home systems without outposts each have only 5 belts. And the only systems which arent crowded here are really completely useless, otherwise they become crowded.
Quote: Dude, no. 0.0 ratting is *FANTASTIC*
Serious what is the last time you have been outside a -1.0 system in 0.0 ratting? Most 0.0 systems are just crap ratting compared to lvl 4 missions.
And yes exploration is nice, WHEN you are the only one in your constellation doing it. Radar and magneto sites are just not better than a lvl 4 mission. Only combat sites will result in significantly better income, and there are only so many of them.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2009.12.16 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer You realise while you are salvaging your mission i am running the next one, so you might earn 40% from salvaging but meanwhile i earn far more from bounties because i run more missions in the same time.
Yes, I am aware of the way that model of ISK making works. What you don't seem to be aware of is that method is somewhat dated. You *MUST* have an *EXCELLENT* LP conversion item to even come close in terms of ISK - and even then you really won't.
People run missions that way for standing and LP. Not for ISK. For more information, you can follow any of the threads on "CNR vs Golem".
Quote: Yes i often rat in station systems, mainly because there are actually less people ratting in them than in other systems here. Our best systems true sec and belt count wise are non-station systems and overratted. Not to mention there arent too many non-station systems since most systems here have outposts.
I have *NEVER* found it to be true that there are less people ratting in station systems than non station systems. *EVER*. There are *ALWAYS* more people both in system and ratting in a station system than non station system. But I guess if your alliance is loaded enough to put a station in every system then /shrug.
Quote: And the only systems which arent crowded here are really completely useless, otherwise they become crowded.
Protip: stop ratting with the crowd. Protip: Nobody afk cloaks empty systems without a *really* good reason (such as entry and pipie systems - but chances are they aren't actually afk).
Quote: Serious what is the last time you have been outside a -1.0 system in 0.0 ratting? Most 0.0 systems are just crap ratting compared to lvl 4 missions.
I honestly don't think I've *EVER* ratted in a -1.0 system with more than 2 belts. I spent some time up in Deklein, some time in Branch (-.6 or so), and some time in Syndicate (-.2/3) and every single time it was more profitable to rat than to mission in highsec.
Like I said - your problem with 0.0 ISK generation is ...... you.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Tagami Wasp
Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.16 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Medidranda Livoga So it seems to be that you have to PVE in gangs?
In 0.0? What a novel idea. Maybe fit a point or neuts on your ship? Hell, you might even snag some red kills as you rat or plex. You never know!!
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Oriss Amarr
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Posted - 2009.12.16 16:34:00 -
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You guys that complain about cloakers are the same guys that stay docked until odds are on your side. Hypocrits.
As for the issue itself, EVE isn't a game of honor like other MMO's where you're thrown into an arena with the exact same odds as the other team. No, EVE is a game of SURVIVAL. You do everything you can to stay alive, including using overkill amounts of force. With that said, what is the cloaker doing to harm you?
Cloakers can do nothing but watch in their cloaked state, but I'm sure you already know this. All they can do is pick their targets wisely before attacking, and register enemy movements. I don't see how this is OP at all. EVERY ship in PVP should be fitting to bring combat into their favor. You don't just stack defense and DPS in EVE and slug each other unil one wins. You have to make combat favorable to you in order to win. Instead of using the conventional modules and giving up some DPS and loads of defense, ALL they get in return is the ability to pick their targets. That is it. If you take that away from them, cloakers have NOTHING.
So, quit whining, get into your ships, and adapt to survive, instead of asking CCP to adapt to you because you're butthurt.
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Insa Rexion
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2009.12.16 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Typhado3 And please don't come back saying hulks should be aligned as bombs will explode before they get to speed and trying to stay perma aligned and at speed in a mining op is beyond a bad joke.
I know you can warp to cans in space so i am assuming you can align to them ? Never tried but if so, you could have an inty set up 5 or 6 numbered cans around ur area of the belt, on grid but warpable. select number 1 align to it, when you approach edge of mining laser range select number 2 and align again ?
Dunno if that would help, kinda hinges on whether you can align to a can, if you can't I look kinda silly but I'm used to that --------------------------------------------
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Liam Fremen
Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.12.16 18:00:00 -
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Ok, now i tell you a big secret... i know you will find it crazy and not possible to be true... but it's true!!
Have all people that farm in a given system in the same fleet.
That's all :)
When the little bombers show up all the rest of pilots in the system warp to the guy in trouble and most of time they scare off the clokaers :)
Do it 3-4 times and they get bored ^^
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Blue Dragon
ION Corp. Holdings
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Posted - 2009.12.16 18:47:00 -
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I am throughly surprised that this is even an issue. The last time I heard of this tactic used, and successfully, was in WW 2. German wolf packs, even if there wern't that many still caused massive delays and shortages because transports at times wouldn't even sail if there was the rumor of a german sub in the water. Rumor alone caused more damage then it did directly. So what he's AFK. Even AFK, HE STILL SCARED YOU. Congratulations, you just showed your true colors.
History lesson for you. Transports in WW2 traveled in comvoys with sub hunters, specifically for that threat alone. Maybe you should do the same OP. Start going on the offensive and hunt him down.
Congratulations CCP, this is the first game in a LONG time that I've seen this tactic actually very valid now, thank you.
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Roland Thorne
Dark Sun Collective Blade.
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Posted - 2009.12.16 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Artemis Rose Here is some radical thinking for you...
Rat in PvP fits.
Always be aligned
Don't join a failbear group that sits docked, and will come to aid people
Problem solved
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Bodega Cat
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Posted - 2009.12.16 22:48:00 -
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Old African Proverb, goes something along the lines of...
When the gazelle wakes up in the morning, he knows he has to be faster than the slowest gazelle that day, or the lion will eat him.
On the other side of the savanah, the lion wakes up, and knows he has to be faster than the slowest gazelle that day or he will starve.
So it doesn't matter if you are a gazelle or a lion, tomorrow when you wake up, you better start running.
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A'ruhn
Caldari Nation of Muppets
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Posted - 2009.12.16 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: A''ruhn on 16/12/2009 23:03:18 TL;DR= WAH WAH WAH! I'm a pansy who can't fit my ship to survive anything but maybe a few rats at once... CCP wipe my bottom for me and hold my hand! those ebil cloaky people are scaring the crap out of me without having to do ANYTHING because i'm such a pansy!
After reading through this thread, and being a "cloaker" myself.
If you, or your friends are dying to a SINGLE bomber... Fit a DCU II, get some light drones, and kill the bomber. bombers are made out of PAPER-thin armor/shielding, they pop like an un-tanked t1 frigate.
I wish the people where I hunt with my pilgrim wre as stupid as the majority of cloak-whiners appear to be. My killboard page would be overflowing.
There are ways they can counter this yes, but there are ways you can counter those counters, and hey, they'll even make your ratting/mining/jacking about, even easier.
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Incipus
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Posted - 2009.12.17 01:54:00 -
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Stop whining. Nothing's wrong with cloaks.
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Sarah Norbulk
Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 05:02:00 -
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Here's an idea, when you cloak you are removed from local. Don't have to worry about that afk cloaker because you won't even know he's there. Problem solved.
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Boogie Bobby
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Posted - 2009.12.17 06:39:00 -
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Would people bother with a counter cloak item?
In large scale it could be a POS module or weapon that on activation decloaks anything within some Xkm radius. In small scale it would fit to a ship and clear a small radius, fleeting up a bunch of ships running it would achieve some synergy in making a large field
Space is big, cloakers could still hang out easily in a system unharmed. This would just deter them away from areas of interest, if the residents bother to use it.
This would be an unfair addition to gate camps though. It would have to be adapted to that aspect of the game.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.17 07:26:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 17/12/2009 07:31:21
Quote: being a "cloaker" myself.
If you, or your friends are dying to a SINGLE bomber... Fit a DCU II, get some light drones, and kill the bomber. bombers are made out of PAPER-thin armor/shielding, they pop like an un-tanked t1 frigate.
You really should learn how to fit a bomber. If you attack low resist of a BS (in this case explosive vs domi with eanm + DC), you can easily kill him before 5 bonussed ligth drones do more than tickle you.
Edit: Since he want around 1km/s i assume he had AB fitted, and slow speed at which his shields went down i assume a medium shield extender. dunno how exactly he did it, but then i am not a SB pilot. Fact stays that 5 warriors with good skills didnt do **** against him.
And sure remove cloakers from local, and triple 0.0 income at the same time. Also why would you possibly want to fit a warp disruptor on a pve ship. For half the ships it means you cant tank an anomaly anymore, so you are warping in and out half the time ruining your income, and what do you gain by it? A miniscule chance you would kill an attacker. Although no chance would be better aproximation, or do you also advice to fit a web? Ratting setups can have mwd, anomaly setups not, so compared to an anomaly setup you just lost 3 mid slots to get a miniscule chance of killing a pvp ship. Hint: as UK you should know by far most of them orbit outside web/scram range so they cannot get really tackled if it is a bait ship. Heavy neut (and ECM drones) is useful on pve ships if you can fit them though.
But i see the AFK cloakers are scared of some risk in 0.0.
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Mister Xerox
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Posted - 2009.12.17 08:44:00 -
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One of the most broken mechanics in the entire game is cloaking. There is simply no counter to it whatsoever.
Introduce a ship capable of probing out cloakers and the game would be balanced again. Cloakers would not be able to afford to log & cloak & go to work/bed/get laid. They'd have to be attentive, and no actively piloted cloaker is going to let itself get pinned down by a covert hunter.
Anti-covert warfare existed on a planet that had zero extra-stellar abilities, it was far from perfect but it was a counter. They called it Anti-Submarine Warfare.
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Medidranda Livoga
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Posted - 2009.12.17 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tagami Wasp
Originally by: Medidranda Livoga So it seems to be that you have to PVE in gangs?
In 0.0? What a novel idea. Maybe fit a point or neuts on your ship? Hell, you might even snag some red kills as you rat or plex. You never know!!
I love it when people take single sentence out of context. *clap clap* It¦s not worth it (reward-wise) unless you are plexing or in wormhole sorry to say. Ratting in PVP ship is sensible, sure. Not just fitting point or neut... Why PVP in suboptimal fit. After all, you aren¦t doing it either.
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Roland Thorne
Dark Sun Collective Blade.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Xerox One of the most broken mechanics in the entire game is cloaking. There is simply no counter to it whatsoever.
Introduce a ship capable of probing out cloakers and the game would be balanced again. Cloakers would not be able to afford to log & cloak & go to work/bed/get laid. They'd have to be attentive, and no actively piloted cloaker is going to let itself get pinned down by a covert hunter.
Anti-covert warfare existed on a planet that had zero extra-stellar abilities, it was far from perfect but it was a counter. They called it Anti-Submarine Warfare.
There are three counters to cloaking as we speak:
They still have to enter your space through a chokepoint, a stargate. You know eventually they will have to go through it, you just don't know the time.
They have to uncloak to attack. No ship can attack while cloaked.
And, even cov-op cloaks have a short targeting delay above the sensor strength of the cloaker. We are talking 6 seconds before the ebil cloaker can begin to lock you.
I can tell you that all that cloak and dagger backstabbing stuff is pretty much impossible if a target is paying attention, so I still don't know what you are griping about!
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Drazin DawnTreader
Cutthroat Mercenary Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.17 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: Drazin DawnTreader on 17/12/2009 18:44:32
Quote: You really should learn how to fit a bomber. If you attack low resist of a BS (in this case explosive vs domi with eanm + DC), you can easily kill him before 5 bonussed ligth drones do more than tickle you.
Maybe you really need to learn how to fit a battleship. Most bombers can run around 13K Alpha with a bomb and then they are down to around +-600 DPS. A PvE battleship should be able to field a tank that can sustain more than 600 DPS. If you can't, that is your fault, not the games or other players.
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Edit: Since he want around 1km/s i assume he had AB fitted, and slow speed at which his shields went down i assume a medium shield extender. dunno how exactly he did it, but then i am not a SB pilot. Fact stays that 5 warriors with good skills didnt do **** against him.
5 Warrior II's should pop a bomber in less than 30 seconds, half that time for a dominix's warrior II's. Looks to me like you need to whine less and train more.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.17 19:11:00 -
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Like now mentioned several times, that was with gall BS V and drone interfacing IV, maybe you should learn how to fit bombers.
And serious with some people here i will never agree, but we can still have a good discussion. However you are just like sadly too many others either trolling or completely ignorant. 600 dps tank on a ratting ship against a damage type not dealth by the npcs? Lawl how fail are your fittings exactly? My lvl 4 mission setups dont even have 600 dps tank against the correct damage type, let alone the wrong damage type on a ratting ship. Serious either you are a troll or you are completely clueless.
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Roland Thorne
Dark Sun Collective Blade.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Like now mentioned several times, that was with gall BS V and drone interfacing IV, maybe you should learn how to fit bombers.
And serious with some people here i will never agree, but we can still have a good discussion. However you are just like sadly too many others either trolling or completely ignorant. 600 dps tank on a ratting ship against a damage type not dealth by the npcs? Lawl how fail are your fittings exactly? My lvl 4 mission setups dont even have 600 dps tank against the correct damage type, let alone the wrong damage type on a ratting ship. Serious either you are a troll or you are completely clueless.
You think you are the only one who has encountered situations like this? A lot of folks here just told you how to solve your problem and you completely ignore it!
Don't let the griefing get to you. Get some friends together and get on vent, then kick some ass if a cloaker attacks you. I'm not gonna say anymore since you seem to have it all figured out already! lols, really...
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Drazin DawnTreader
Cutthroat Mercenary Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.17 19:36:00 -
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That is your problem then. You aren't in your high sec safety zone anymore. You are in 0.0 where people drool at the chance to take down a poorly tanked ratter or mission runner. You fit your mission ship to the proper resistence of each mission right? Fine tune it for optimal tank/DPS for the mission? You have to do the same thing in 0.0 except you need to factor in the risk of being attacked by a player. Now you know that bombers can do +-600 dps, fit your tank accordingly. It is no one elses fault but your own. Whats next? You are going to complain that a Heavy Dictor caught you at a gate and thats unfair because you were webbed and bubbled too far from the gate? Going to complain that someone scanned down your mission or anomoly and came in and killed you? Want to nerf Scan probes now? You say you can make just as much money in highsec, then stay in highsec. 0.0 is for people who like to fight other people and we fit our ships for that task. Don't cry like a little girl because your precious carebearing is getting interupted by pvpers and I wont complain that there aren't any carebears to kill in 0.0 anymore. You are like an old Yankee that comes down south and tries to tell everyone how you do it up north. We dont care.
The fact remains, You tanked for rats, not for players. A player killed you... get over it. Doesn't matter if it was a bomber or a Battlecruiser, you lost and are looking to blame a game mechanic for your loss instead of manning up and adjusting your fit and playstyle to compensate.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 17/12/2009 20:30:48 Ah i see, that was what i was doing wrong, not fitting 600 dps omni tanks on ratting ships
Quote: A player killed you... get over it.
I know it is alot to ask from you, but can you at least try to give the impression you are not trolling neither complete idiot (granted that becomes hard when you start that you should be able to tank all pvp ships in your ratting setup). Where exactly did i imply i lost a ratting ship? I didnt lose anything, i escaped. However the point was that a hound has no problem at all killing an armor tanked ratting BS including eanm+DC (assuming of course it isnt in angel space).
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Ah i see, that was what i was doing wrong, not fitting 600 dps omni tanks on ratting ships
More accurately: - You didn't fit sufficient tank - You didn't bring sufficient player defense (neuts, warriors, etc) - You didn't bring sufficient friends to bail you out - You fit for to maximize PVE (hey, I do it too - but I don't ***** when I got smacked by a player when doing it! Well, maybe if intel failed or something)
I dunno man - I think it's a pretty valid argument: you don't have a strictly PVE environment where you are. It isn't reasonable to fit your ship to do it. And really, 600 DPS omni isn't what's required - but being able to survive a few hits from a SB while your mates arrive really is.
I mean, you can think of it like this: Trading 20% PVE efficiency for 80% more time PVEing is a good trade.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Medidranda Livoga
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:37:00 -
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I¦m laughing at those tanking figures... Are you suggesting people to run with high grade crystals in 0.0 or something. Bwhahahahah.
And nobody is drooling about killing ratters. Folks are just so bored they will shoot at anything, even shuttles. It¦s about as exciting as watching mold grow when you are ganking someone not specifically fitted for the fight at hand.
Delicious tears and smack on the other hand, it might be decent motivator for little grieving action.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 17/12/2009 20:39:43
Originally by: Medidranda Livoga
I love it when people take single sentence out of context. *clap clap* It¦s not worth it (reward-wise) unless you are plexing or in wormhole sorry to say. Ratting in PVP ship is sensible, sure. Not just fitting point or neut... Why PVP in suboptimal fit. After all, you aren¦t doing it either.
I've used this before, because it's the most recent kill while plexing (they tend to not bother us after a few such encounters ) http://www.ushrakhan.com/alliance/edk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=77633
As you said, we don't plex in PvP fit, nope...
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Furb Killer Ah i see, that was what i was doing wrong, not fitting 600 dps omni tanks on ratting ships
More accurately: - You didn't fit sufficient tank - You didn't bring sufficient player defense (neuts, warriors, etc) - You didn't bring sufficient friends to bail you out - You fit for to maximize PVE (hey, I do it too - but I don't ***** when I got smacked by a player when doing it! Well, maybe if intel failed or something)
I dunno man - I think it's a pretty valid argument: you don't have a strictly PVE environment where you are. It isn't reasonable to fit your ship to do it. And really, 600 DPS omni isn't what's required - but being able to survive a few hits from a SB while your mates arrive really is.
I mean, you can think of it like this: Trading 20% PVE efficiency for 80% more time PVEing is a good trade.
-Liang
I wasnt talking about that you should be able to survive a few hits from the SB, which is also why i fitted that eanm + DC in the first place (which saved my ass). But that is what? Like 200 dps tanked on explosive? (really too lazy to find out). You dont even come near 600 dps with complete lolfits which are just other ways of saying: LEts do lvl 4 missions.
Then while contrary to some trolls here, i respect you, it would also be nice if you check again what i wrote. 1. i had warriors out, they werent doing ****. (should probably have switched to ecm, although iirc sbs got pretty hgih sensor strength), 2. i had a heavy neut, which saved my ass because the SB couldnt keep his point up anymore. (Also if you would have said that a heavy neut is a requirement for a pve ship i could have agreed, although it removes some ships from the list of possible ships, but that is something else than a 600 dps omnitank). And 3. you should add ecm drones to that list, they rule.
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Drazin DawnTreader
Cutthroat Mercenary Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer However the point was that a hound has no problem at all killing an armor tanked ratting BS including eanm+DC (assuming of course it isnt in angel space).
You act like an EANM and a Damage Control is some amazing tank that should withstand a ship designed to do high damage to a battleship. What other tanking modules did you have? Did the bomber use a bomb to start? You think cloaking is still the issue?
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Drazin DawnTreader
Cutthroat Mercenary Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer I wasnt talking about that you should be able to survive a few hits from the SB, which is also why i fitted that eanm + DC in the first place (which saved my ass). But that is what? Like 200 dps tanked on explosive? (really too lazy to find out).
That is still 0 tanked DPS if you dont have a means of repping. All you are doing is cutting his DPS by 56.3% (Shield) 42.6%(Armor) 60%(Hull) which means he is still dealing in the area of 300 DPS to your ship throughout the fight. Which, if you care to check, would mean it is going to take a damage optimized Hound about 45-50 seconds to down a Dominix, meanwhile 5x Warrior II's only take 15 seconds to down a hound. If thats all the tank you are running... well.
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Grarr Wrexx
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Medidranda Livoga I¦m laughing at those tanking figures... Are you suggesting people to run with high grade crystals in 0.0 or something. Bwhahahahah.
And nobody is drooling about killing ratters. Folks are just so bored they will shoot at anything, even shuttles. It¦s about as exciting as watching mold grow when you are ganking someone not specifically fitted for the fight at hand.
Delicious tears and smack on the other hand, it might be decent motivator for little grieving action.
Bored? No ma'am, I go out of my way of anything if it gives me some killboard points
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