Why it gets fielded with pulses more often than with tachs?

In sniper setup you need to use a lot of sensor and tracking specific modules to get enough range. Not to even mention those two PG rigs.

With pulses you can at least put cap booster, propulsion mod, trimarks, two 1600 plates and 2x EANM into it and still do same or higher dps.

3x heatsinks, 3x tracking. That leaves how many tank slots?

Any reason why you want to use 5 slots just for tracking/range?

Especially when you don't have enough targeting range to use effective range of your guns.

Any reason why you want to use 5 slots just for tracking/range?

Especially when you don't have enough targeting range to use effective range of your guns.

Funny how people still think MLU + tank is impossible with Hulk.

Its a moot point, usually a snipe fleet tries to hang out around 100km because any further and an enemy recon WILL get the enemy a warp in and you better be gone when they land because you have no damn tank on most snipers because the guns use so much grid

You thought that untill I showed you how to fit it. Several times.

Your Catalyst can still chew through 25k-28k EHP before Rokh's/Scimi's reps cycle?

Especially when you're jammed and get alpha'd by Nado you thought was "harmless"?

You're confusing yourself with other people again. You're getting worse GÇö seek medical attention.

What makes you think that logi, those ecm drones or maybe that high alpha/dps ship doesn't safe the Hulk if gankers show up?

I'm assuming T2/Meta, no Fleet and keeping enough tank vs EM and Exp to survive 2 Nado volleys, if your fit fits that bill, I'd love it if you posted it. I must be doing something wrong (or getting my head muddled by the head injury Jorma's taken).

Again, you're confusing yourself with other people.

Nope.

What makes you think that logi, those ecm drones or maybe that high alpha/dps ship doesn't safe the Hulk if gankers show up?

Nope.

I've never said untanked Hulk can't be ganked.
I've never said tanked, solo Hulk can't be ganked.

Amazing how this thread went from "how much should you make" to "how safe should you be".

Again, one answers the other. The one who makes himself safest should make the most ISK.

well i have to say it when i was a new player was like 60,000 players on line most of the time all this was said back then too
now most of the time 25.000 to 35.000 at times any way you cut it players are not going to give you money to feed them to gankers in a game this old no one cares if you fix the game for more players to play are not .
they might sub and play if its fun if not no big deal i have to say it i told you so pve is big money .
upside is every 8 months i see what the game is up to so in 16 months only cost me $30.00

well i have to say it when i was a new player was like 60,000 players on line most of the time all this was said back then too
now most of the time 25.000 to 35.000 at times any way you cut it players are not going to give you money to feed them to gankers in a game this old no one cares if you fix the game for more players to play are not .
they might sub and play if its fun if not no big deal i have to say it i told you so pve is big money .
upside is every 8 months i see what the game is up to so in 16 months only cost me $30.00

Well I don't have an answer for question 2, though I have been alone in nullsec for months now and not sure if that's "carebear" enough.

For question 1, I would have to say Live Events. In a live event, I don't care what I lose. Live Events are that epic.

Losing ships in the usual "bubbleblob/gank" routine that I see a lot of non-carebears admit they need a carbear alt to pay for does not strike me as appealing.

Glad you finally agree with us.

Logi, ECM Drones, Tank, and/or Combat backup can easily save a Hulk from any cost effective gank.

Glad you're finally on board.

well i have to say it when i was a new player was like 60,000 players on line most of the time all this was said back then too
now most of the time 25.000 to 35.000 at times any way you cut it players are not going to give you money to feed them to gankers in a game this old no one cares if you fix the game for more players to play are not .
they might sub and play if its fun if not no big deal i have to say it i told you so pve is big money .
upside is every 8 months i see what the game is up to so in 16 months only cost me $30.00

This is EVE their is no such thing as a cost effective gank. Also many gankers are noobs and have no clue what they are doing.
Odds are while playing EVE you will encounter these kind of ganks far more frequently than you will the trained hard core ganker.

But tanking a hulk can be fun while watching one of these gankers in training try and fail to gank your hulk.

Last point money motivates some people but the vast majority of EVE players are motivated by some other thing I will call fun.
If they think it will be fun to gank your ship then they will do so. Cost be damned this guy is going to die. EVE is so like that.
If a group of these guys are hunting you then nothing you do to that hulk or any ship you fly will save it, except possibly being in a null sec corp with lots of friends that are online at the same time you are and are willing to back you up when you need it.

While certainly more fun, cost-ineffective ganks don't have the privilege to last forever. Kinda like gate camping with faction-fitted ships.

And as long as we have someone willing to finance ganks they can become cost effective.

CCP could, instead of nerfing suicide ganking (only a symptom), introduce optional and exponentially more expensive isk sinks (root of the "issue").

The root of the issue isn't ISK.

It's bots and people crying when their false illusion of safety gets smashed, and people thinking it's hilarious when those misinformed players come face-to-face with the reality of an open and free-for-all PvP game.

True but does not matter one bit to the guy that just got ganked in a cost-ineffective gank.

And as long as we have someone willing to finance ganks they can become cost effective.

This is so like taking a loss in the markets selling your items at a loss just because you want to get rid of that guy that is your competition. How often have you done that?