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Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
154
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Posted - 2012.07.12 09:55:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:Dave stark wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:I tried the PvP life. Didn't care for it; too much risk, not enough rewards.
I don't sit in a huge alliance that can hand out spare ships as if they were spare change. The loss of a ship would be very significant for me at the moment and set me back too far.
And of course, my implants. Dear God, my implants... if the loss of a t1 frig sets you back too far, i feel bad for you. I'm not really trained for Frigates. It is all Battlecruisers and up. Anyhow, even if I were to fly Frigates it would still leave my Pod at risk and as such my Implants.
you can get a racial frigate to IV in what, 2 maybe 3 days? |

Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
292
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Posted - 2012.07.12 09:57:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Dave stark wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:I tried the PvP life. Didn't care for it; too much risk, not enough rewards.
I don't sit in a huge alliance that can hand out spare ships as if they were spare change. The loss of a ship would be very significant for me at the moment and set me back too far.
And of course, my implants. Dear God, my implants... if the loss of a t1 frig sets you back too far, i feel bad for you. I'm not really trained for Frigates. It is all Battlecruisers and up. Anyhow, even if I were to fly Frigates it would still leave my Pod at risk and as such my Implants. you can get a racial frigate to IV in what, 2 maybe 3 days?
Your point being? Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |

Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
154
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Posted - 2012.07.12 09:58:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:Dave stark wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Dave stark wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:I tried the PvP life. Didn't care for it; too much risk, not enough rewards.
I don't sit in a huge alliance that can hand out spare ships as if they were spare change. The loss of a ship would be very significant for me at the moment and set me back too far.
And of course, my implants. Dear God, my implants... if the loss of a t1 frig sets you back too far, i feel bad for you. I'm not really trained for Frigates. It is all Battlecruisers and up. Anyhow, even if I were to fly Frigates it would still leave my Pod at risk and as such my Implants. you can get a racial frigate to IV in what, 2 maybe 3 days? Your point being?
it's a weak excuse. |

Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
292
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:00:00 -
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I like how you just ignore the second part of my reason. But I don't expect you to get it, you're in TEST. You probably get implants and stuff delivered on a silver platter.
Anyway, I'm not here to take crap from you. The OP asked for my reason, I gave it. Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |

Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
456
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:00:00 -
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Time and skill mostly. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1935
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:05:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:Dave stark wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:I tried the PvP life. Didn't care for it; too much risk, not enough rewards.
I don't sit in a huge alliance that can hand out spare ships as if they were spare change. The loss of a ship would be very significant for me at the moment and set me back too far.
And of course, my implants. Dear God, my implants... if the loss of a t1 frig sets you back too far, i feel bad for you. I'm not really trained for Frigates. It is all Battlecruisers and up. Anyhow, even if I were to fly Frigates it would still leave my Pod at risk and as such my Implants.
1) You can't get skills up to par for a BC / BS without getting frigate relevant skills up to par along the way. T2 guns require smaller T2 skills, all core skills are applicable to all ships, etc.
2) Don't PvP in a clone that has implants. Only the rich and stupid do so. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
154
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:05:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:I like how you just ignore the second part of my reason. But I don't expect you to get it, you're in TEST. You probably get implants and stuff delivered on a silver platter.
Anyway, I'm not here to take crap from you. The OP asked for my reason, I gave it.
i didn't ignore it, i just chose not to comment on it. there's a difference. implants is a reason why i don't pvp as much as i should (mainly for inconvenience than cost).
then again, you probably don't understand that just because i'm in test doesn't mean i get free ships thrown at me. i've never had a single ship reimbursed in nullsec regardless of what corp or alliance i've been in. not a single time. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1935
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:07:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:
then again, you probably don't understand that just because i'm in test doesn't mean i get free ships thrown at me. i've never had a single ship reimbursed in nullsec regardless of what corp or alliance i've been in. not a single time.
In about a year and a half in TEST, I've had 2 ships reimbursed.
It's pretty hard to lose a ship in fleet warfare when you tend to be on the winning side, know when to broadcast for reps, and know when to align out away from the fleet.
Also, AFAIK, only Goonswarm reimburses solo PvP losses. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Jax Bederen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
101
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:12:00 -
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I started playing thinking I would play this game for pvp, thought it seems the sheer amount of other things to do have kept me subbed. From what I've seen I'm not interested in blob fests at all, did that in other games and it bored me the same. The type of personal pvp I prefer seems rare and one spends more time looking for it then actually doing it. As they say in this game if it's fair, your doing it wrong. Though I cant see taking pride in a win when you simply overwhelm the opposing player/team number wise. So mix this with the cost and it just doesn't peek my interest much. |

Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
188
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:18:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Dave stark wrote:
then again, you probably don't understand that just because i'm in test doesn't mean i get free ships thrown at me. i've never had a single ship reimbursed in nullsec regardless of what corp or alliance i've been in. not a single time.
In about a year and a half in TEST, I've had 2 ships reimbursed. It's pretty hard to lose a ship in fleet warfare when you tend to be on the winning side, know when to broadcast for reps, and know when to align out away from the fleet. Also, AFAIK, only Goonswarm reimburses solo PvP losses.
We get peacetime reimbursement rates for small gang/solo. Granted there arent as many potential players to reimburse than in test.
Jax Bederen wrote:I started playing thinking I would play this game for pvp, thought it seems the sheer amount of other things to do have kept me subbed. From what I've seen I'm not interested in blob fests at all, did that in other games and it bored me the same. The type of personal pvp I prefer seems rare and one spends more time looking for it then actually doing it. As they say in this game if it's fair, your doing it wrong. Though I cant see taking pride in a win when you simply overwhelm the opposing player/team number wise. So mix this with the cost and it just doesn't peek my interest much.
Large scale alliances and small scale pvp arent mutually exclusive. At the moment in delve ive taken part in more small scale stuff than i ever have. |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1615
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:24:00 -
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What keeps me from PvPing:
- "Afraid to lose my stuff" (rather, I don't have the budget to replace stuff I will lose)
- Variable play time. Just because I'm logged in doesn't mean I'm sitting in front of the computer paying attention to the game
- I really don't like the idea of logging in because someone told me to, or expects me to, or because I have some kind of quota of kills to achieve each week in order to have access to the space I'm living in
- Most people don't like fleet members who go AFK two or three times during a one-hour roam
One day I won't have a job. Then I'll be able to focus on the game long enough to get into some serious PvP 
(oh, there's also the PvP that happens to me, such as suicide gankers failing to blow up my astrometrics frigate while I'm on autopilot with 20M ISK worth of probes in my cargo bay. Whoops) Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Shameless Avenger
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:25:00 -
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Marconus Orion wrote: ...PvP... ...barriers?... ...high sec...
Well, the barriers are many. For the most people, Kisumii had it right:
Kisumii wrote: ...dont understand the mechanics... ...afraid of "doing it wrong"...
And some might say, that's easy to fix. RTFM, learn, keep trying, read, etc. But sometimes people don't have the time for that. People have jobs, some go to school, some have families and some play other games. So I'm gonna add a barrier here:
* The Time Barrier: No time to learn how to PVP.
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dexington
Lysergic.acid.diethylamide
35
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:26:00 -
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Marconus Orion wrote:This question is directed at players who choose not to PvP. I am very curious as to what barriers, if any, keep you from PvPing? Granted there are some players who live in unknown space, low sec and null sec who still avoid PvP, the question is more directed at high sec players.
I just don't think pvp in eve is fun, the time it takes to find a somewhat even fight in eve while not getting blown up by gate campers, makes pvp in eve seem like 95% preparing to have fun and 5% having fun. It has nothing to do with loosing ship, sometimes me and a couple of friends decide to go to low-sec and get blown up, and loosing 2-3 ensured battlecruisers is no big deal.
I think eve is the only mmo i have played where i did not primary pvp, but then again eve is also the only game i have tried where is is actually fun to be a businessman :) |

Nebula Terron
Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing
31
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:34:00 -
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Eve Pvp is just not casual player friendly.
Eve Online Forums: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1935
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:36:00 -
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Nebula Terron wrote:Eve Pvp is just not casual player friendly.
I log in about once a week for a couple hours, and often don't log in for 3-4 weeks at a time.
How much more casual could you get? TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Mizhir
Club Bear
30
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:41:00 -
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Nebula Terron wrote:Eve Pvp is just not casual player friendly.
Try RvB. If you dont want your main there, simply just make an alt and have fun with t1 frigs. |

Shameless Avenger
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:43:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote: I log in about once a week for a couple hours, and often don't log in for 3-4 weeks at a time. ...
Is not just login time Akirei. EvEmon time, Forum Time, evefit time, dotland time, singularity time, etc. You can't just login, strap whatever modules you have in hangar and go fight. You need to do your homework. And that takes more time than a casual player has.
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Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
264
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:47:00 -
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Shameless Avenger wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote: I log in about once a week for a couple hours, and often don't log in for 3-4 weeks at a time. ...
Is not just login time Akirei. EvEmon time, Forum Time, evefit time, dotland time, singularity time, etc. You can't just login, strap whatever modules you have in hangar and go fight. You need to do your homework. And that takes more time than a casual player has.
False.
What you actually need to do to get into PvP:
Undock
Shoot **** (that people own)
You are now PvPing. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. // Throwing one's hands up in the air and crying 'cal-matar nonsense!' seems to be the new dismissive these days when someone is being neither relevant nor dignified. |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1617
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:47:00 -
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You mean to say "What keeps you from fighting?" !
PvP is not an acronym for combat !
Everything in EvE revolves around PvP ! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Jax Bederen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
101
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:50:00 -
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dexington wrote:Marconus Orion wrote:This question is directed at players who choose not to PvP. I am very curious as to what barriers, if any, keep you from PvPing? Granted there are some players who live in unknown space, low sec and null sec who still avoid PvP, the question is more directed at high sec players. I just don't think pvp in eve is fun, the time it takes to find a somewhat even fight in eve while not getting blown up by gate campers, makes pvp in eve seem like 95% preparing to have fun and 5% having fun. It has nothing to do with loosing ship, sometimes me and a couple of friends decide to go to low-sec and get blown up, and loosing 2-3 ensured battlecruisers is no big deal. I think eve is the only mmo i have played where i did not primary pvp, but then again eve is also the only game i have tried where is is actually fun to be a businessman :)
Yea, it's the first online game for me I didn't pvp in as well and I didn't think I would get into business either. It's a bit weird, instead of using your best "gear" you have to go for cookie cutter fits and leave the pride of your earnings demoted to pve duty.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1169
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:54:00 -
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Marconus Orion wrote:This question is directed at players who choose not to PvP. I am very curious as to what barriers, if any, keep you from PvPing? Available time. Can't really PvP much when all you have is 15-20 minutes now and then followed by hours of not being able to pay any attention to the game even if still logged in.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |

Shameless Avenger
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
191
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:05:00 -
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Halete wrote:....standard bait comments detected....
"Sure... just shoot. What's the worst that can happen? I'm in a merlin you silly carebear."
And the when the carebear bites the bait:
Option one: Remote repair alt starts repairing merlin. Option two: Merlin pilot warps out, changes into hurricane.
It is not as easy as undock and start shooting. Don't be silly. You have to do your homework.
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Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
435
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:06:00 -
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An undending hatred of Celine Dion and a deep seated need to prove that Xenon gas lies to you. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1400
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:07:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:Dave stark wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:I tried the PvP life. Didn't care for it; too much risk, not enough rewards.
I don't sit in a huge alliance that can hand out spare ships as if they were spare change. The loss of a ship would be very significant for me at the moment and set me back too far.
And of course, my implants. Dear God, my implants... if the loss of a t1 frig sets you back too far, i feel bad for you. I'm not really trained for Frigates. It is all Battlecruisers and up. Anyhow, even if I were to fly Frigates it would still leave my Pod at risk and as such my Implants. Losing pods are not something that happens everytime you died tbh. Most times I ever had to lose my pods were from bubbles or bombs. Don't like spaceships sandbox? then this is not the game for you. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |

Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
264
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:08:00 -
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Shameless Avenger wrote:...
This so hilariously wrong and full of assumptions. I've never baited or used neutral reps. Nor have I ever used the term 'you silly carebear'. I'm actually pro-bear. If you want to play that way that's cool by me. But this kind of attitude knocks my respect for 'bears down several pegs, to be honest. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. // Throwing one's hands up in the air and crying 'cal-matar nonsense!' seems to be the new dismissive these days when someone is being neither relevant nor dignified. |

Nebula Terron
Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing
32
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:10:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Nebula Terron wrote:Eve Pvp is just not casual player friendly.
I log in about once a week for a couple hours, and often don't log in for 3-4 weeks at a time. How much more casual could you get?
I log in get convos, members asking for stuff. The Ceo needs something done, somewhere something went offline and needs onlining. Once this is all done, I join a fleet, wait for the FC to sort his things out, wait for people to join the fleet...and wait....and wait....wait for Titan to bridge...wait and wait.
Then I log off and go to sleep.
Show me where is it casual friendly ?
Eve Online Forums: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. |

Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
264
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:12:00 -
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Nebula Terron wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Nebula Terron wrote:Eve Pvp is just not casual player friendly.
I log in about once a week for a couple hours, and often don't log in for 3-4 weeks at a time. How much more casual could you get? I log in get convos, members asking for stuff. The Ceo needs something done, somewhere something went offline and needs onlining. Once this is all done, I join a fleet, wait for the FC to sort his things out, wait for people to join the fleet...and wait....and wait....wait for Titan to bridge...wait and wait. Then I log off and go to sleep. Show me where is it casual friendly ?
This is the hella sweet thing about EVE. If you have a problem with your situation you can move to a Corp that can facilitate for your needs. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. // Throwing one's hands up in the air and crying 'cal-matar nonsense!' seems to be the new dismissive these days when someone is being neither relevant nor dignified. |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1400
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:13:00 -
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Nebula Terron wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Nebula Terron wrote:Eve Pvp is just not casual player friendly.
I log in about once a week for a couple hours, and often don't log in for 3-4 weeks at a time. How much more casual could you get? I log in get convos, members asking for stuff. The Ceo needs something done, somewhere something went offline and needs onlining. Once this is all done, I join a fleet, wait for the FC to sort his things out, wait for people to join the fleet...and wait....and wait....wait for Titan to bridge...wait and wait. Then I log off and go to sleep. Show me where is it casual friendly ? Wrong corp/alliance perhaps? Don't like spaceships sandbox? then this is not the game for you. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |

Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
264
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:14:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote: Wrong corp/alliance perhaps?
I feel more and more lately like a lost of the big, general complaints about EVE boil down to the poster actually just being in corp/alliance that's a bad match for them. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. // Throwing one's hands up in the air and crying 'cal-matar nonsense!' seems to be the new dismissive these days when someone is being neither relevant nor dignified. |

Mizhir
Club Bear
30
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:16:00 -
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Nebula Terron wrote: I log in get convos, members asking for stuff. The Ceo needs something done, somewhere something went offline and needs onlining. Once this is all done, I join a fleet, wait for the FC to sort his things out, wait for people to join the fleet...and wait....and wait....wait for Titan to bridge...wait and wait.
Then I log off and go to sleep.
Show me where is it casual friendly ?
Do another form of pvp then. Fit a frig and head to lowsec. Organize a small gang with your corpmates and go to hostile nullsec. Or as i said, join RvB with an alt. |
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