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Amerame
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Posted - 2004.12.10 02:13:00 -
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Edited by: Amerame on 10/12/2004 02:20:15 They should take back the insurance payout, if it gets you in neg, you can still undock the ships and blow them. People will still get back all their destroyed mods, which is already nice, or at least take all payout but one, and maybe 5 isk / SP or something to everyone to compensate mods that might have been lost.
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Amerame
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Posted - 2004.12.10 02:13:00 -
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Edited by: Amerame on 10/12/2004 02:20:15 They should take back the insurance payout, if it gets you in neg, you can still undock the ships and blow them. People will still get back all their destroyed mods, which is already nice, or at least take all payout but one, and maybe 5 isk / SP or something to everyone to compensate mods that might have been lost.
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lordmix
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Posted - 2004.12.10 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Neslo
Originally by: Fedaykin Naib Whining aint going to get you anywhere
No offense mate but didn't whining get the people a new ship?
well said
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lordmix
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Posted - 2004.12.10 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Neslo
Originally by: Fedaykin Naib Whining aint going to get you anywhere
No offense mate but didn't whining get the people a new ship?
well said
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2004.12.10 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib GJ CCP im sure this will save alot of time and get some more of those bugs worked out intsead.
To the rest of ya. Eve is a game, and someone has control over the game, being CCP, if you dont like it that they make all the rules, then dont play the game. Whining aint going to get you anywhere
this must be a guy who got all his ships back. have a good day did yea?
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2004.12.10 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib GJ CCP im sure this will save alot of time and get some more of those bugs worked out intsead.
To the rest of ya. Eve is a game, and someone has control over the game, being CCP, if you dont like it that they make all the rules, then dont play the game. Whining aint going to get you anywhere
this must be a guy who got all his ships back. have a good day did yea?
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.12.10 02:46:00 -
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some people who have been whining like mad over this are the same people who says they love pvp. you should be happy that your enemy now has some more ships to come and fight with. isnt that what you want? some of you guys really need to step back and wonder if its a game you are playing or if its your career. if its a game then just laugh and blow their ships up once again. if its a career choice then you got a serious problem and need professional help.
personally i havent gotten any ship back since i havent petitioned any of my 2 losses in that period.
GJ CCP on getting a problem out of the way fast so you can concentrate on getting the real work done instead.
Originally by: Graelyn
"We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!"
Quote: [18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.12.10 02:46:00 -
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some people who have been whining like mad over this are the same people who says they love pvp. you should be happy that your enemy now has some more ships to come and fight with. isnt that what you want? some of you guys really need to step back and wonder if its a game you are playing or if its your career. if its a game then just laugh and blow their ships up once again. if its a career choice then you got a serious problem and need professional help.
personally i havent gotten any ship back since i havent petitioned any of my 2 losses in that period.
GJ CCP on getting a problem out of the way fast so you can concentrate on getting the real work done instead.
Originally by: Graelyn
"We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!"
Quote: [18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2004.12.10 02:55:00 -
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I don't know which is worse giving free isk to those who were stupid enough to get themselves killed or making me agree with Bob 
Large patch = high risk
You know the risks when you undock
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2004.12.10 02:55:00 -
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I don't know which is worse giving free isk to those who were stupid enough to get themselves killed or making me agree with Bob 
Large patch = high risk
You know the risks when you undock
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Redwolf
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Posted - 2004.12.10 03:49:00 -
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what about the ship i didnt petition for because of all the times i petitioned and didnt get reimbursed before?
anyone for a miner2 bpo?
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Redwolf
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Posted - 2004.12.10 03:49:00 -
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what about the ship i didnt petition for because of all the times i petitioned and didnt get reimbursed before?
anyone for a miner2 bpo?
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Wharchild
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Posted - 2004.12.10 03:58:00 -
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Something I've noticed about the "vets" in this game... Most (of the vocal ones) sound like a horse whose spirit has been broken. You're a noob for undocking a BS for a week after a patch. You're a noob for trying a mission the week after a patch. You're a noob for having lost a ship the week after a patch.
But where's your OUTRAGE?@?! Not the outrage at people having been given back ships + free isk. Where's the outrage that every patch released contains so many obvious and critical problems? I rather doubt CCP is returning ships because people lost so many ships the first week. They're returning ships because so many of those lost were their fault (due of bugs or design flaws). You don't get your ship back because you experienced lag. You get your ship back because they found the source of your lag to be code/hardware under their control. People aren't being reimbursed because the queue topped 4,000 petitions. People are being reimbursed because Exodus was not ready for prime time and has so many problem that players were forced to open 4,000 petitions, many for lost ships.
Vets need to "unadapt" and get seriously angry about the lack of QA done on patches before they're marked for release. Don't undock for a week. Don't run missions for a week. Sheesh. What a way to think... Have you really "adapted" to the point that not being able to play for a week you're paying for just because there was a patch is acceptable?
Returning ships and not taking the insurance doesn't seem to be the best move, but perhaps adding all that logic in would have significantly increased the "database cleanup" downtime. But I think we're better off screaming at them to fix their quality assurance problems. If they would quit shooting themselves in the foot, we wouldn't have to worry about what actions (like this) they may take to stop the bleeding.
So put your mantra of "adapt" in the closet and join the rest of us who believe releasing garbage is unacceptable. It's time for CCP to do the adapting.
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Wharchild
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Posted - 2004.12.10 03:58:00 -
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Something I've noticed about the "vets" in this game... Most (of the vocal ones) sound like a horse whose spirit has been broken. You're a noob for undocking a BS for a week after a patch. You're a noob for trying a mission the week after a patch. You're a noob for having lost a ship the week after a patch.
But where's your OUTRAGE?@?! Not the outrage at people having been given back ships + free isk. Where's the outrage that every patch released contains so many obvious and critical problems? I rather doubt CCP is returning ships because people lost so many ships the first week. They're returning ships because so many of those lost were their fault (due of bugs or design flaws). You don't get your ship back because you experienced lag. You get your ship back because they found the source of your lag to be code/hardware under their control. People aren't being reimbursed because the queue topped 4,000 petitions. People are being reimbursed because Exodus was not ready for prime time and has so many problem that players were forced to open 4,000 petitions, many for lost ships.
Vets need to "unadapt" and get seriously angry about the lack of QA done on patches before they're marked for release. Don't undock for a week. Don't run missions for a week. Sheesh. What a way to think... Have you really "adapted" to the point that not being able to play for a week you're paying for just because there was a patch is acceptable?
Returning ships and not taking the insurance doesn't seem to be the best move, but perhaps adding all that logic in would have significantly increased the "database cleanup" downtime. But I think we're better off screaming at them to fix their quality assurance problems. If they would quit shooting themselves in the foot, we wouldn't have to worry about what actions (like this) they may take to stop the bleeding.
So put your mantra of "adapt" in the closet and join the rest of us who believe releasing garbage is unacceptable. It's time for CCP to do the adapting.
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:09:00 -
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WTF??? I lost a megathron during the patch, but I know the risks.
I guess the crybabies get their way....again.
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:09:00 -
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WTF??? I lost a megathron during the patch, but I know the risks.
I guess the crybabies get their way....again.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:24:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 10/12/2004 04:31:00
Originally by: Wharchild Something I've noticed about the "vets" in this game... Most (of the vocal ones) sound like a horse whose spirit has been broken. You're a noob for undocking a BS for a week after a patch. You're a noob for trying a mission the week after a patch. You're a noob for having lost a ship the week after a patch.
Heh.
It's a MMO game. It's obvious you're new to MMO's. This is how it works. Don't like it? Don't play MMO's.
Bugs happen. MMO's are VERY latge constructs, and bluntly there's only so much QA to go arround.
Dev stupidity like this? Needn't happen. So we get angry about this kind of stupidity.
And about balance nerfs.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:24:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 10/12/2004 04:31:00
Originally by: Wharchild Something I've noticed about the "vets" in this game... Most (of the vocal ones) sound like a horse whose spirit has been broken. You're a noob for undocking a BS for a week after a patch. You're a noob for trying a mission the week after a patch. You're a noob for having lost a ship the week after a patch.
Heh.
It's a MMO game. It's obvious you're new to MMO's. This is how it works. Don't like it? Don't play MMO's.
Bugs happen. MMO's are VERY latge constructs, and bluntly there's only so much QA to go arround.
Dev stupidity like this? Needn't happen. So we get angry about this kind of stupidity.
And about balance nerfs.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Powder
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:43:00 -
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didnt the exact same thing happen with castor and we were all told tough luck? or was i just smoking the rock, i could of been smoking rock it wouldnt of been the first time.
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Powder
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:43:00 -
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didnt the exact same thing happen with castor and we were all told tough luck? or was i just smoking the rock, i could of been smoking rock it wouldnt of been the first time.
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ezzle
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:51:00 -
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I want a christmas present too  
does ccp not love me because i didn't lose a ship?
 
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ezzle
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:51:00 -
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I want a christmas present too  
does ccp not love me because i didn't lose a ship?
 
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Skaz
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Posted - 2004.12.10 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: ezzle I want a christmas present too  
does ccp not love me because i didn't lose a ship?
 
Yeah I haven't had to bother the CSS with a petition for months, so what do I get? 
My take on this whole deal was that the support guys where swamped and wanted/where offered an easy/quick way out.
Cheap and dirty way and very shortsighted one as they've set a precedence that'll come and haunt them the next patch and the next and the next....
They should just confess get a slap on their wrists and we can all go on...and CCP will say they're sorry and promise not to do it again...
Because that is what'll happen....if anyone is remotely thinking that they'll rollback and take all the insurance money and whatnot, well sorry it ain't gonna happen. Then the whining just increases....
They'll just do like they've always done before, wait until the unrest dies down, on an upside get ready to get a lot of PR about the NEXT patch...yes let's all look in that direction  
Oh did I mention that I think EVE is a great game?
Just think some things could be handled differently and not so rashly and panickly.....(is that a word?)
anyways, I'm done ranting...
"No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..." |

Skaz
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Posted - 2004.12.10 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: ezzle I want a christmas present too  
does ccp not love me because i didn't lose a ship?
 
Yeah I haven't had to bother the CSS with a petition for months, so what do I get? 
My take on this whole deal was that the support guys where swamped and wanted/where offered an easy/quick way out.
Cheap and dirty way and very shortsighted one as they've set a precedence that'll come and haunt them the next patch and the next and the next....
They should just confess get a slap on their wrists and we can all go on...and CCP will say they're sorry and promise not to do it again...
Because that is what'll happen....if anyone is remotely thinking that they'll rollback and take all the insurance money and whatnot, well sorry it ain't gonna happen. Then the whining just increases....
They'll just do like they've always done before, wait until the unrest dies down, on an upside get ready to get a lot of PR about the NEXT patch...yes let's all look in that direction  
Oh did I mention that I think EVE is a great game?
Just think some things could be handled differently and not so rashly and panickly.....(is that a word?)
anyways, I'm done ranting...
"No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..." |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.12.10 05:41:00 -
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Man this is great move on CCP part towards Sims Online mentality. Good Job. Just make sure that our enemies have to pick those ships in 0.0 so that we can blow them up again. At the moment they are all licking ice and veldspar in Nonni. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.12.10 05:41:00 -
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Man this is great move on CCP part towards Sims Online mentality. Good Job. Just make sure that our enemies have to pick those ships in 0.0 so that we can blow them up again. At the moment they are all licking ice and veldspar in Nonni. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.12.10 06:18:00 -
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Thanks guys, a conservative estimate is that our enemies have made 4-5 BILLION from this farce. Uber shaft CCP, good job well done, not.
This is the most ridiculous f up.
Please swallow your pride and get it sorted.
Thx
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.12.10 06:18:00 -
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Thanks guys, a conservative estimate is that our enemies have made 4-5 BILLION from this farce. Uber shaft CCP, good job well done, not.
This is the most ridiculous f up.
Please swallow your pride and get it sorted.
Thx
Eve Blacklight Style
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.12.10 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Luc Boye Man this is great move on CCP part towards Sims Online mentality. Good Job. Just make sure that our enemies have to pick those ships in 0.0 so that we can blow them up again. At the moment they are all licking ice and veldspar in Nonni.
The ships got transported to where ever you where docked at DT. So in PA's case that would be deep inside empire  --------------------------------------------------
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.12.10 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Luc Boye Man this is great move on CCP part towards Sims Online mentality. Good Job. Just make sure that our enemies have to pick those ships in 0.0 so that we can blow them up again. At the moment they are all licking ice and veldspar in Nonni.
The ships got transported to where ever you where docked at DT. So in PA's case that would be deep inside empire  --------------------------------------------------
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