Also lol OP bringing up my kb stats 138 kills with losses being almost exclusively frigs with some very badly fit gallente bs thrown in. Very impressive...

So, unless they use a fit that specifically counters your fit, they win? Try finding a counter to the ASB. All you need is to tank them until they run out of Cargo room.

Wrong.

Mach does the same thermal, explosive and EM DPS, you just need to switch ammo.

Only kinetic is lower. By about 400 DPS.

ASB ships are not prevalent like Dramiels were before the nerf or how Thrashers are now after the boost. ASB are still very rarely used and therefore cannot be an overpowered mod, else everyone would be using them.

The issue here is that the counter you describe is exactly the same as the counter to a regular shieldbooster+capbooster combo. The regular combo is also counterable by neuting.

However, in the case of the ASB, the counter that is neuting is not present, making a ASB, particularly the dual-ASB setup just plain BETTER than the shield/cap booster combo, as it lacks a weakness to balance it's strength.

All the ASB needs is "limited to one of these modules" to be balanced - the long reload time acting as the balancing "weakness".

The issue here is that the counter you describe is exactly the same as the counter to a regular shieldbooster+capbooster combo. The regular combo is also counterable by neuting.

However, in the case of the ASB, the counter that is neuting is not present, making a ASB, particularly the dual-ASB setup just plain BETTER than the shield/cap booster combo, as it lacks a weakness to balance it's strength.

All the ASB needs is "limited to one of these modules" to be balanced - the long reload time acting as the balancing "weakness".

1200 DPS on a Mach is only achievable with Hail. Hail is almost pure EXP. It has to drop a large chunk of DPS to switch.

Keep it boosting for ~45-50s and you have 1m to kill it.

Yes, that's how I suggested it should work. But with dual ASB setups that doesn't happen except with completely overwhelming amounts of DPS.

Then you just keep them going for 3-4m because they run out of Cargo.

They've also massively gimped the rest of their Fit.

Of course you never lose ships when you have 500 other friends that can get killed instead around you.

That's like winning the lottery.

Don't try to use that bullshit "i am a better PVPer because I never die" crap with me, I used to do blob warfare and I know how those work.

And also don't use the "get some balls and PVP on TQ" bullshit either.
When you do blob warfare you have almost 0 risk of losing your ship and even if you do you get reimbursed.

Try doing some small gang/solo PVP and then come to me and call me a coward or ***** or what the **** ever after you lose 50 bils worth of ships to overpowered crapfits after a while.

In 3 years of blob warfare I died once or twice and got a few hundred bils in "kills".

What I am trying to say is, don't brag about how awesome your KB stats are when they were made exclusively by blobbing or having over 10 people assisting you.

How about you shove your advice up your ass?

Judging by your killboard all you do is fly in drake swarm fleets.

Don't give PVP advice when all you do is blob in a drake and count on 50 fleetmates to kill your enemies.

Try giving advice when you use armor tanks, buffers, ECM, painters, webs, scramblers, neutralizers, nosferatus, cap micromanagement, speed tanks and turrets, and you know how to use all the info available on your screen, like transversal, radial and Angular velocity indicator, not the most noob PVP friendly ship in the game whose only skill requirement is pressing F1.

And don't dare tell me the guy had a "better setup" when all he basically had to do to kill me was activate his drones (which I popped BTW), turn on his scrambler and cruise launchers and be semi AFK while coming back every 40 seconds to activate his overpowered dual ASB bullshit OP mods, okay?

Oh, and before I popped, a Vangel and Vagabond warped in and started attacking me as well, I blew them both up.

Skill wise, i would have defeated ALL of them 3 vs 1 no problem, bullshit OP mod-wise, the ASB noob won.

Eve ******* sucks compared to how it was in 2007 I swear, WAY more fun and player skill oriented back then.

Fancy linking your pro kill board then, since you're raging at some test guy when you sound pretty damn terrible yourself.

Also, since when has PvP in Eve been balanced around 1v1?

Now you are talking about balance when you call me a ******** whiner for complaining that there is a mod in the game that can take a rattlesnake from 5% shield to 100% shield 5 times in a row.

But of course you support that, you fly in Drake blob fleets and that overpowered ASB crap probably saved your ass more than once.

Hypocrite much?

And don't dare tell me the guy had a "better setup" when all he basically had to do to kill me was activate his drones (which I popped BTW), turn on his scrambler and cruise launchers and be semi AFK while coming back every 40 seconds to activate his overpowered dual ASB bullshit OP mods, okay?

The other guy had a generic mission carebear **** fit like all rattlesnakes do.

And a rattlesnake with FOUR cruise launchers and no drones broke your tank? Did he neut you? Does that now come with the generic mission carebear **** fit?

See, there's this thing called a buffer fit...

So since the rattlesnake, a faction battleship, is a viable pvp ship now, that makes it bad?

Oh I forgot real PVPers don't use Rattlesnakes.....

See, there's this thing called a buffer fit...

So, I just had a test fight on SiSi.

It was a 1 v 1 fight versus a RATTLESNAKE in a BHAALGORN and I LOST.

My Bhaalgorn had 250 K EHP, 850 gun + 200 drone DPS, dual web, dual NOS, one neutralizer, one tracking computer with tracking scripts, one target painter, one warp scrambler and 4 T2 pulses with COnflagration L crystals.

The other guy had a generic mission carebear **** fit like all rattlesnakes do, the typical super passive+crap boring drones and pathetic 150 dps cruise missiles setup.

I got the guy into 5% shield FIVE ******* TIMES IN A ROW and he always bounced right up back to 70-100% in a few short seconds.

If this was a TQ fight I would have been ******* pissed for losing a Bhallgorn to a **** fit mission rattlesnake with two bullshit overpowered mods on it.

Any word on when the F you intend to NERF the ASB or at least limit the son of a ***** to ONE per ship, CCP?

The other day I had this guy in a MERLIN tank SIX GUYS in CA 1 in PVH for 8 consecutive minutes using ASB.

No seriously, when are you nerfing that ****?

If you're going to leave it like that, at least make armor repairers or armor plates repair armor passively when inactive and work like an ASB when activated.

Seriously CCP, ASB is retardedly OP right now.

On the test server, every 20 minutes or so.

And unless Rattle has a bullshit OP mod on it or 2, Bhaalgorn always wins.