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The Unibomber
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Posted - 2010.11.19 05:43:00 -
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Edited by: The Unibomber on 19/11/2010 05:53:07
*ninja edit*
nothing to see here except a dumbass quick with the "post reply" button. carry on.
*edit 2* **** i missed a snipe.
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Headerman
Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.11.19 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ronald Raygunn This is why I prefer to just keep to my myself in this game anymore. The d-baggery has reached truly epic heights across the galaxy.
Thank you also Ron, your appology is deep and meaningfull to myself, and the wider TEST community.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.11.19 06:02:00 -
[303]
Edited by: Gladys Pank on 19/11/2010 06:02:29 HURR DURR
TESTes got their nuthax in a knot.
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Headerman
Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.11.19 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gladys Pank Edited by: Gladys Pank on 19/11/2010 06:02:29 HURR DURR
TESTes got their nuthax in a knot.
You, also, are far too kind, thank you.
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Archon Theo
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.11.19 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Aerion Va'rr So- enjoying our contracted war dec to punish Fatal Ascension, in its 2nd week, at 11 days, our alliance is issued the typical war-dec cooldown message. It seemed a little odd, and upon looking at the war page in alliance, math shows that it ended 3 days later. Our Executor is issued a refund by a GM, with no reasoning, notice or anything (deposited into his personal wallet and not into the alliance wallet).
Both the Executor and my corp CEO have petitioned this to find out exactly why this happened, and so far nothing. Since the dec has ended they have moved billions of ISK out of Jita and the surrounding trade hubs and Gained Sov in 4 systems. Given their safe window (24 hours to cooldown before we can re-dec them plus having someone on to push the button) they have since vanished getting away with what we were charged to prevent them with to begin with.
Sure this is EvE, and blah blah blah **** happens, but does this seem strange to anyone else?
keep talking about gm's untill you become a Devanesc. -_-E-_- .SAVES. -_-E-_- |
pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN
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Posted - 2010.11.19 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN on 19/11/2010 08:26:34 As a six year veteran of this game, I am very concerned about this apparent breach of procedure. I am in no hurry to see this game return to the times before the CSM, when GM corruption and CCP cover ups were rampant.
This may not be nearly as devastating as free T2 BPO's for BOB alliance, but it is a step towards a very slippery slope.
As others have said, this stinks to high heaven, and will not be tolerated. The GM involved should lose his job and accounts.
- Pineapple
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Archon Theo
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.11.19 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN Edited by: pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN on 19/11/2010 08:26:34 As a six year veteran of this game, I am very concerned about this apparent breach of procedure. I am in no hurry to see this game return to the times before the CSM, when GM corruption and CCP cover ups were rampant.
This may not be nearly as devastating as free T2 BPO's for BOB alliance, but it is a step towards a very slippery slope.
As others have said, this stinks to high heaven, and will not be tolerated. The GM involved should lose his job and accounts.
- Pineapple
says who? -_-E-_- .SAVES. -_-E-_- |
Quendishir
Caldari The Immortal Dawn
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Posted - 2010.11.19 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN Edited by: pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN on 19/11/2010 08:26:34 As a six year veteran of this game, I am very concerned about this apparent breach of procedure. I am in no hurry to see this game return to the times before the CSM, when GM corruption and CCP cover ups were rampant.
This may not be nearly as devastating as free T2 BPO's for BOB alliance, but it is a step towards a very slippery slope.
As others have said, this stinks to high heaven, and will not be tolerated. The GM involved should lose his job and accounts.
- Pineapple
I agree, this situation stinks. It places doubt in the minds of every mercenary corporation and alliance in the game. No longer can you count on the GMs to understand the basics of game mechanics. Coming from WoW, I assumed that the GMs here would be just as competent in their job as those ones. Hell, I had a GM in WoW spend days - almost a week - on an issue with my account. It had been hacked. He jumped through hoops to get me what I had. Blizzard policy is not to reimburse you for the gear in it's entirety. At the time, gems had just come out and I had a full set of raid armor with rare-quality gems. It ran me upwards of 500 gold to fully outfit it. I lost my gear and gold.
The GM, at the end of it, was authorized to reimburse the gear without enchants and gems, as well as add 1,000 gold to my character. That, ladies and gentlemen, is customer service.
No company can claim to be perfect. Blizzard Entertainment is far from it. They've had issues in the past with perceived developer bias towards guilds (the one that shoots to mind right away is with <Ensidia>). Last year (early 2009, I believe), a guild named <Exodus> was able to take a hard encounter and finish it. This was a relatively unheard-of guild. Many people said it was impossible, to include members of <Ensidia>. It finally came out that <Exodus> had used an aggro glitch that allowed a healer t remain impervious to damage while maintaining on adds, allowing the tanks to focus on the boss.
All members of <Exodus> received 72-hour suspensions from the game, a revoking of their world first achievement (Alone in the Dark, I think it was). The encounter saw an overhaul the next downtime. People started complaining en masse about the favoritism that was being shown to <Ensidia>, as the guild had been labeled an exploit guild in the past. They would use exploits to earn world first bosss kills, post the fights on YouTube, and then petition the exploits so no one else could use it.
Fast forward. Blizzard releases the final progression tiered raid for Wrath of the Lich King. Hard Mode Lich King, 25-man. The world first downing goes to <Ensidia>. But unlike their other kills, there was no video of the kill. There was no trash talking beyond the normal "Yeah, we did it, you all suck". Then someone looked at the logs on a third-party website and saw irregularities in the combat logs. During a portion of the encounter, they had used an item to prevent the platform from breaking at parts. In essence, <Ensidia> removed an entire phase of the encounter. The rage on the forums was massive, and people on both the EU and US servers for WoW raised holy hell over it. In the end, <Ensidia> was given the same treatment they had laughed at when <Exodus> was suspended and the like.
Using the above, I'm not trying to say EVE is a bad game. I'm using it to show that there can't be perfection at all levels. I'm military. I'm used to the duplicity of commanders who are looking to make a name for themselves and further their career at the expense of those below them. I'm going to work on my rebuttal for the "explanation" that has been presented. I'm not going to flame, that's not how I'm working right now.
Semper fidelis.
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Archon Theo
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.11.19 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Quendishir
Originally by: pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN Edited by: pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN on 19/11/2010 08:26:34 As a six year veteran of this game, I am very concerned about this apparent breach of procedure. I am in no hurry to see this game return to the times before the CSM, when GM corruption and CCP cover ups were rampant.
This may not be nearly as devastating as free T2 BPO's for BOB alliance, but it is a step towards a very slippery slope.
As others have said, this stinks to high heaven, and will not be tolerated. The GM involved should lose his job and accounts.
- Pineapple
I agree, this situation stinks. It places doubt in the minds of every mercenary corporation and alliance in the game. No longer can you count on the GMs to understand the basics of game mechanics. Coming from WoW, I assumed that the GMs here would be just as competent in their job as those ones. Hell, I had a GM in WoW spend days - almost a week - on an issue with my account. It had been hacked. He jumped through hoops to get me what I had. Blizzard policy is not to reimburse you for the gear in it's entirety. At the time, gems had just come out and I had a full set of raid armor with rare-quality gems. It ran me upwards of 500 gold to fully outfit it. I lost my gear and gold.
The GM, at the end of it, was authorized to reimburse the gear without enchants and gems, as well as add 1,000 gold to my character. That, ladies and gentlemen, is customer service.
No company can claim to be perfect. Blizzard Entertainment is far from it. They've had issues in the past with perceived developer bias towards guilds (the one that shoots to mind right away is with <Ensidia>). Last year (early 2009, I believe), a guild named <Exodus> was able to take a hard encounter and finish it. This was a relatively unheard-of guild. Many people said it was impossible, to include members of <Ensidia>. It finally came out that <Exodus> had used an aggro glitch that allowed a healer t remain impervious to damage while maintaining on adds, allowing the tanks to focus on the boss.
All members of <Exodus> received 72-hour suspensions from the game, a revoking of their world first achievement (Alone in the Dark, I think it was). The encounter saw an overhaul the next downtime. People started complaining en masse about the favoritism that was being shown to <Ensidia>, as the guild had been labeled an exploit guild in the past. They would use exploits to earn world first bosss kills, post the fights on YouTube, and then petition the exploits so no one else could use it.
Fast forward. Blizzard releases the final progression tiered raid for Wrath of the Lich King. Hard Mode Lich King, 25-man. The world first downing goes to <Ensidia>. But unlike their other kills, there was no video of the kill. There was no trash talking beyond the normal "Yeah, we did it, you all suck". Then someone looked at the logs on a third-party website and saw irregularities in the combat logs. During a portion of the encounter, they had used an item to prevent the platform from breaking at parts. In essence, <Ensidia> removed an entire phase of the encounter. The rage on the forums was massive, and people on both the EU and US servers for WoW raised holy hell over it. In the end, <Ensidia> was given the same treatment they had laughed at when <Exodus> was suspended and the like.
Using the above, I'm not trying to say EVE is a bad game. I'm using it to show that there can't be perfection at all levels. I'm military. I'm used to the duplicity of commanders who are looking to make a name for themselves and further their career at the expense of those below them. I'm going to work on my rebuttal for the "explanation" that has been presented. I'm not going to flame, that's not how I'm working right now.
Semper fidelis.
just listen too the music.. -_-E-_- .SAVES. -_-E-_- |
Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.11.19 11:17:00 -
[310]
When did this become a WoW thread?
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.19 11:34:00 -
[311]
Originally by: Nathan Jameson When did this become a WoW thread?
Tools Entered and Shiptoasted the Thread.
Now it is a WOW thread.
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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admiral fovios
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.11.19 12:18:00 -
[312]
Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: Nathan Jameson When did this become a WoW thread?
Tools Entered and Shiptoasted the Thread.
Now it is a WOW thread.
Lok-Regar, lok-tar!
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Meridith Akesia
Tempest Legion Ghost Syndicate.
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Posted - 2010.11.19 12:51:00 -
[313]
User: Are TEST bad posters?
Cleverbot: Are you a dentist?
User: No I am not, but are TEST bad posters?
Cleverbot: No.
User: I think they are.
Cleverbot: You think I am lying?
User: Yes, you're a test alt!
Cleverbot: Where are you from?
User: Are you a TEST alt?
Cleverbot: Yes.
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Shasz
New Eden Renegades
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Posted - 2010.11.19 12:56:00 -
[314]
Blobbing works in internet spaceships, maybe it'll work in teh forums!
Too funny.
Anyway, Kudos to the GMs for owning up to the mistake. Next time, don't trust the players so much. Remember Occam's Razor and you'll be fine.
Which makes more sense, the code that processes hundreds of wardecs a week suddenly made a bizarre 5 day error, or some noob from an alliance got his panties in a bunch about a wardec he didn't like, and petitioned it without any clue what he was talking about? ___________________________________
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Creepy CousinRoger
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Posted - 2010.11.19 13:26:00 -
[315]
I officially do not offer an apology to TEST and laugh at their tears
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Asasham
Caldari Quintessential Teldar Paper
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Posted - 2010.11.19 14:14:00 -
[316]
It's sad to see multiple GM's with so little understanding of game mechanics that have been around for ages.
I'm also surprised that members of any decent alliance would even wonder why they were insta-decced. It's ALWAYS because your leadership didn't check to see if that new corp you're accepting had a dec ongoing.
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Al3xii
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Posted - 2010.11.19 15:19:00 -
[317]
I would like to know more about what happened to Test's TCUs. Can i get some links ?
Also , to whoever was defending that Morfeus is IA guy and his post just ment that there was no personal gain for the GM in war dec removal... Saying "warranted" is a very bad choice of words in that case. "Warranted action" sounds like not only GM was not corrupt in doing what he did , he also had every reason in the 'verse to DO it.
I think that he just never even bothered looking into the petition and just dropped in here to CTRL/C CTRL/V some poo.
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Syllein
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Posted - 2010.11.19 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Syllein on 19/11/2010 16:37:09
Originally by: Zeta Zhul
Petitions? As in plural? As in multiple? As in many? Many many? Many many many? Lots?
Troll count just went up.
Oh nice apology and explanation from CCP. Refreshing to see this.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2010.11.19 16:41:00 -
[319]
Couldn't be arsed to read past page five. Just had to post a "where's the CSM when you need it.. oh wait lolz?" - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
phobosd
Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.11.19 18:21:00 -
[320]
APOLOGY ACCEPTED!!!
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Quendishir
Caldari The Immortal Dawn
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Posted - 2010.11.19 18:54:00 -
[321]
Originally by: admiral fovios
Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: Nathan Jameson When did this become a WoW thread?
Tools Entered and Shiptoasted the Thread.
Now it is a WOW thread.
Lok-Regar, lok-tar!
My life for the Horde...?
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2010.11.20 10:35:00 -
[322]
Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: ElCholo It's like new Goons... but worse.
It's hilarious tbh.
Well, I suppose it would be if you're a cretin. ---
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Missus Malaprop
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Posted - 2010.11.20 13:59:00 -
[323]
Poasting in another nail in the coffin thread.
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.20 14:30:00 -
[324]
Removed trolling comments and off topic comments.
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Missus Malaprop
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Posted - 2010.11.20 15:08:00 -
[325]
CCP must be butthurt their incompetence is exposed on a daily basis, but censoring the thread wont provide the solution this time.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2010.11.20 22:51:00 -
[326]
Originally by: CCP Adida Removed trolling comments and off topic comments.
I beg to differ
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Aerion Va'rr
The Priesthood The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.11.21 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth Edited by: Misanth on 19/11/2010 17:12:38 Couldn't be arsed to read past page five. Just had to post a "where's the CSM when you need it.. oh wait lolz?"
Edit; Done with the whole thing now. Surprised to see a GM reply with actual content? That's gotta be a first. Hopefully not the last.
I still stick with my previous lame joke tho. CSM was supposed to be our internal affairs, took a damn long time before they even responded in this post in the first place - not to mention IA got here first and made both themselves and CSM look like asses.
Having both regular GM and a senior GM not understand basic game mechanics just added further fun to this already hilarious thread. Thank you Morpheus, thank you GM #1, Senior GM #2, FA member and CSM for providing us with laughs.
Actually Mynxee responded pretty quickly, noone from VI contacted her until the day after (abouts) that this thread was posted; and there were on going talks with GM Lelouch throughout (his responses could actually form a small novel).
I'm overly impressed with the GM Staff, the CSM, and community for their support, thanks again guys.
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Reddx Panther
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Posted - 2010.11.21 00:53:00 -
[328]
Reviewed the allegiations in this thread and am mildly satisfied by the CSM/GM answer.
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Ronald Raygunn
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Posted - 2010.11.21 21:22:00 -
[329]
Originally by: Headerman
Originally by: Ronald Raygunn This is why I prefer to just keep to my myself in this game anymore. The d-baggery has reached truly epic heights across the galaxy.
Thank you also Ron, your appology is deep and meaningfull to myself, and the wider TEST community.
Anytime.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.11.21 21:52:00 -
[330]
Originally by: CCP Adida Removed trolling comments and off topic comments.
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Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
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