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Dusty Warrior
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Posted - 2011.08.13 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: Dusty Warrior on 13/08/2011 03:10:51
I've listened to many players openly admit on coms they use bot for numerous things.
Wanna guess where? You got it! 0.0 sov.
Primary reason why I stay in hi or lo sec. Sad part, it's widely accepted and if you talk against it in many of the 0.0 alliances you will find yourself booted.
Sad... only way some people feel they can play a game is to cheat.
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Elanor Vega
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Posted - 2011.08.13 13:25:00 -
[2612]
 Originally by: Izida
Edited by: Izida on 13/08/2011 00:10:09
Any updates from CCP yet on this?
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Amarr
PORSCHE AG
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Posted - 2011.08.16 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Crucis Cassiopeiae on 16/08/2011 09:39:44
I open EVE forums this morning and see one topic named "Winter expansion... because bots need more love"... and i must agree on it... no banning bots or doing things to make theirs life harder and buffing the main "land" where they live... nice message from CCP... 
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Anea Ruminare
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Posted - 2011.08.16 09:48:00 -
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This thread is getting useless.
A lot of ppl stopped giving a sh*t about these problems. Leave the game and start searching for smth new. From what we`ve seen from announces and blogs eve will only get more flashy with less intelligent content.
Start searching for new games, cause eve is dying and you don`t want more time invested in this game.
Also a lot of free fun games out there, Black Prophecy, World of Tanks.. etc.
You will get to my words sooner or later. It`s your choice.
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Vlad Chistian
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Posted - 2011.08.16 10:02:00 -
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Next thing you know, RMTers will be selling Monocles for far cheaper than you could get them with PLEX 
What? No. I didn't buy one! Honest. 
Bots: ruining your business since forever.
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.08.16 10:19:00 -
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ran a mission bot in march for a few weeks, stopped after I had enough ISK to buy what I wanted.
bot then got a lot of publicity (partly due to myself posting about it here), bot author even made recommendations to CCP how to break it
now I returned to botting (don't play eve anymore, reinstalled the bot to earn some isk for plexes to keep training but running the eve client for hours just to keep adding to some SP numbers turned out to be too much :effort: so I just let the account expire) and see that the bot still works just fine, no reports of unusual bans in the meantime (just a few bans for the 23/7 crowd), no attempts by CCP to break it, ...
lol
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.08.16 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Kidd on 16/08/2011 12:04:19
Originally by: Dusty Warrior
Edited by: Dusty Warrior on 13/08/2011 03:10:51
I've listened to many players openly admit on coms they use bot for numerous things.
Wanna guess where? You got it! 0.0 sov.
Primary reason why I stay in hi or lo sec. Sad part, it's widely accepted and if you talk against it in many of the 0.0 alliances you will find yourself booted.
Sad... only way some people feel they can play a game is to cheat.
I'm going to theorycraft a bit here.
So, CCP has been ineffective at removing bots from the game. Sure, they've had their periods where they say they have removed bots but, they've never indicated where the bots operated, who they were, what corps they belonged to, etc.
What we do know is RMT is rampant in nullsec. In fact, you cannot exist in nullsec without paying up to large alliance which pay up to larger coalitions funding a few large entities with buttloads of isk. Even through the periods where CCP has publicly announced their botting efforts, RMT has remained viable. In fact, large wars were conducted - NC & DRF supposedly during such efforts.
Now, we have the blueprint for the next 5 years. Basically, anything profitable in hisec will become the sole domain of nullsec.
My question is this: Are all of CCP's "botting" efforts and the new nullsec blueprint merely a means to eliminate competition for RMT'ers from which CCP may benefit directly and financially?
As much as CCP talked up it's disdain for RMT, it's not illegal. CCP's EULA, while stating that botting, in very vague terminology, is bad, could merely be a means for CCP to "legitimize" selective account bans in order to protect their own interests and eliminate competition. Afterall, we have no data to know who, what, where and when.
Discuss.
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Avila Cracko
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Posted - 2011.08.16 23:09:00 -
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yay... security blog is here...
but... i must say... i expected something completely different of "where is report bot button" devblog...
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Gratianus Augustus
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Posted - 2011.08.17 04:53:00 -
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For those that actually want to play this scam, you shouldn't have to wait too long for bots to be reduced.
Once "Site Licenses" and the new currency are settled in properly CCP will just pump their fraud through there instead and the vast majority of bots will be turned off over-night. They just chew too much server resources, thin-client or not. Only problem will be keeping all the "workers" fed with revenue stream so they don't turn against the family.
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Leisen
Caldari
Interrobang Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.17 04:59:00 -
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I, as someone who does not mine, hope they never get rid of bots. They keep minerals cheap, and in turn keep manufactured goods cheap. And I do love my manufactured goods. 
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Joshua Cy
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Posted - 2011.08.17 20:36:00 -
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I do not think bots lower the price of minerals. The reason is many bots are not mining bots, they are mission bots, ratting bots and trading bots. All those make isk for the owner, and that isk is used to buy manufactured goods. All that ill gotten isk drives up demand and hence prices. Sure the mining bots add to supply, but even their owners use the isk to buy stuff.
So its not at all clear that killing all bots will result in a mineral price increase.
Since CCP started really working on the bot issue (March of this year) mineral prices have risen a little, but ice prices have really gone up. The only reason I can see for that is CCP has killed many ice mining bots. They were increasing the ice supply, but few bot owners bought ice products, leading to a ice supply reduction and higher prices.
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Gratianus Augustus
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Posted - 2011.08.18 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Cy
mineral prices have risen a little
Bot numbers haven't really changed, but around 20k less players per day might have had an impact.
Will be funny when they start seeding the market to cover it, so much for the smoke and mirrors of player run economy.
Don't worry, when DUST is released and these forums deleted, new kids will come, moral will improve and they can step-up the laundering again.
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Henry Haphorn
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.18 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Anea Ruminare
This thread is getting useless.
A lot of ppl stopped giving a sh*t about these problems. Leave the game and start searching for smth new. From what we`ve seen from announces and blogs eve will only get more flashy with less intelligent content.
Start searching for new games, cause eve is dying and you don`t want more time invested in this game.
Also a lot of free fun games out there, Black Prophecy, World of Tanks.. etc.
You will get to my words sooner or later. It`s your choice.
And yet this thread managed to go beyond 80+ pages. If the Eve community never gave a crap, then this thread wouldn't have gotten this far.
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Leisen
Caldari
Interrobang Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.18 02:33:00 -
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Dunno, Henry. Seems to me a lot of posts in here are basically "I don't care," posts. And 80+ pages in over a year isn't impressive, imo...
Hell, I'm only posting out of boredom.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.08.18 03:22:00 -
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omg this thread is still around O.o
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.08.22 08:51:00 -
[2626]
Edited by: Cyaxares II on 22/08/2011 08:53:24
rofl, wrote a post in this thread about a week ago shortly describing how I have been using a popular mission bot and how ccp did nothing (over more than half a year) to break that bot.
post gets deleted by ccp, my account remains unbanned. 
have fun believing that ccp does care... 
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Amarr
PORSCHE AG
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Posted - 2011.08.22 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cyaxares II
rofl, wrote a post in this thread shortly describing how I have been using a popular mission bot and how ccp did nothing (over more than half a year) to break that bot.
post gets deleted by ccp, my account remains unbanned.
have fun believing that ccp does care...
O.o
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.08.22 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Cyaxares II
Edited by: Cyaxares II on 22/08/2011 08:53:24
rofl, wrote a post in this thread about a week ago shortly describing how I have been using a popular mission bot and how ccp did nothing (over more than half a year) to break that bot.
post gets deleted by ccp, my account remains unbanned.
have fun believing that ccp does care...
or you could be lying to make your epeen look bigger
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.08.22 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cyaxares II
Edited by: Cyaxares II on 22/08/2011 08:53:24
rofl, wrote a post in this thread about a week ago shortly describing how I have been using a popular mission bot and how ccp did nothing (over more than half a year) to break that bot.
post gets deleted by ccp, my account remains unbanned.
have fun believing that ccp does care...
I read it after you posted it.
Dude, CCP cares! They took time to painstakingly cover up your confession for you.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2011.08.22 13:30:00 -
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I would love to see the comparison of how many botters have been banned by your average high sec joe blogs to the RMT monsters of null sec alliance.
I suspect that it would be many high sec ave joe bloggs and a handful of your null sec RMT monsters
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.08.22 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Prince Kobol
I would love to see the comparison of how many botters have been banned by your average high sec joe blogs to the RMT monsters of null sec alliance.
I suspect that it would be many high sec ave joe bloggs and a handful of your null sec RMT monsters
You guys are asking for the wrong statistics.
What needs to be analyzed are which corps the people belong to who are banned. I'm betting that if such figures were released you'd see a fairly even application of bans to those in hisec and a very selective application to those in nullsec. I'm somewhat favoring the hypothesis that CCP is benefiting from RMT and so, its anti-botting efforts merely serve to reduce competition for those RMT'ers paying up to CCP.
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Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.08.26 14:57:00 -
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hey look!Data!!
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.08.26 15:08:00 -
[2633]
Two year old data. We want equivalent data for the current effort.
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Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.08.26 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Athena
Two year old data. We want equivalent data for the current effort.
You gotta wait two years for that
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.08.26 16:00:00 -
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Actually the unholy rage data came out a few months after unholy rage. So it is about time for data on the current effort. CCP Sreegs has shown data to the CSM, and at a show in Las Vegas. But he has yet to make a blog for the rest of us.
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Meridian Siri
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Posted - 2011.08.27 00:41:00 -
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Grown tired of counting the number of days for a solid response and the many broken promises (actually just stopped). You remaining players will see the second coming before you get a decent report from CCP on this issue or get them to follow through on promises to revisit dead content, etc.
Later suckers. (Accounts time out in 4 days)
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Nemesis Factor
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.27 04:39:00 -
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Edited by: Nemesis Factor on 27/08/2011 04:40:53
Originally by: Leisen
Dunno, Henry. Seems to me a lot of posts in here are basically "I don't care," posts. And 80+ pages in over a year isn't impressive, imo...
Hell, I'm only posting out of boredom.
>80+ pages in over a year
>in over a year
>over a year
HERP
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Amarr
PORSCHE AG
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Posted - 2011.08.28 19:37:00 -
[2638]
Originally by: Vincent Athena
Two year old data. We want equivalent data for the current effort.
+1
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.29 08:53:00 -
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Arvasaras
20 randomly generated characters, eatch in CNR in 1 man corp with randomly generated name
Vellaine:
7 randomly generated characters, eatch in CNR in 1 man corp with randomly generated name
Akonoinen
12 randomly generated characters, eatch in CNR in 1 man corp with randomly generated name
Hageken:
>10 randomly generated characters, eatch in CNR in 1 man corp with randomly generated name
and so on
mission running bots are not being touched by CCP.
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Kharvor
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Posted - 2011.08.31 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Kharvor on 31/08/2011 16:49:32
Mendolus insisted that I post in this thread. So here I am.
As others have pointed out in this thread, a huge concentration of botting appears to be centered in a few select alliances.
Maybe CCP should look at a group accountability tactic. We've all been in corporations that have kicked members for botting (or smacktalk in merc corps). Maybe CCP needs to clamp down on those alliances and have them enforce no botting rules. When CCP finds a extensive use of bots in an alliance, that alliance gets a warning to make it stop. If it continues the alliance gets broken up, they lose their space, and all their stuff in that space.
If the bots are neuts then it should be no problem for those alliances to destroy the neut bots the same way they stringently enforce NBSI. If the bots continue to survive and thrive en masse like they are in the above linked systems then obviously that alliance can't control its residents and they lose their space and their stuff in that space.
Make botting something that can destroy an alliance and remove sov. Maybe then we'll see a drop. |
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