or they could just change the belt spawns in high sec, and shuffle the 0.8-1.0 rock size belts down to 0.5-0.7. maybe leave some noob systems with a little rock.

So we will take the currently easy to mine ore and make them harder to mine. This will reduce the supply of said ore which eman even higher price on those ore.

Good idea sir.

yeah...

Since when is mining in .5 harder than mining in 1.0?

1st for the really beginner miner, a belt rat in 0.5 is problematic. An Osprey for example will ahve trouble dealing with a 0.5 belt rat.

2nd, I was assuming they would replace the current belt with the "smaller" ones seen in higher sec system like putting only the current 1.0 belt in 0.6. This make them "harder" to mine because there would just not be as much ore to mine total. If he only meant to put them there as extra, then it ahs no change at all because of course it's not really harder once you can deal with the rats.

Then it's still easier to mine in .6 than 1.0 space. It's just "harder" overall. But unless it gets to the point where HS is getting mined out before it can regenerate, that's not going to reduce the supply significantly. It'll just **** off the miners.

But even there, the idea is bad because anything cutting the supply of low end ore will only make the current imbalance even bigger. If you want to make ore in low and null sec worth more, you don't put a single stick in the wheels of high sec miner. You either remove some of the sticks in thier wheels so they can overmine or increase the demand for high end ore to raise thier price.

You could also but even more sticks in low/null sec miner's wheel but thats not a good diea imo. They seem to deal with enough crap already.

So we will take the currently easy to mine ore and make them harder to mine. This will reduce the supply of said ore which eman even higher price on those ore.

Good idea sir.

yeah...

The Osprey has plenty of room to fit a launcher and drones.

Do you think high-sec miners influence the price of ore that much? Hulkageddon and the last update didn't seem to do jack to them as far as I can see.

couldn't warp into a belt without tripping over 3 retrievers about a month ago. prices should have gone down but they didn't.

Matters not. When I started 2 1/2 yrs ago, yes an Osprey had issues with the .5 rats. Sheesh. You just love pooh-poohing every statement made on the Forums.

Do you think high-sec miners influence the price of ore that much? Hulkageddon and the last update didn't seem to do jack to them as far as I can see.

couldn't warp into a belt without tripping over 3 retrievers about a month ago. prices should have gone down but they didn't.

So nerf one groups income so the other group can make more isk sounds a bit ya know R3TARDED

seriously if you want high ends to stop dropping like stones GTFO out of null less supply = greater demand = better prices ccp shouldnt fix this as its a player driven economy and should be left alone

let the players fix it

The big alliances have mining ops which mine everything, and not just ABC. And they use it to built a hell of a lot of things, not just T1 ships.
Because of building spreas, some of them have to import ore from high-sec in order to keep up with the demand on building. This affect the ore price.

Why one high-sec mineral price jumps, is mainly because of what alliance is currently speed building and their region. Some regions, even with ABC ore, are completely short of iso for example, which causes that mineral to become in a very high demand.

This is the market and inflation. Its not ore imbalancing.
People have more isk because of FW, doing incursions before the nerf (and after) and so on, renting fees in null space and so on.
So they can afford to pay more, which means builders sell for more, and ore miners sell for more.
A year ago you could only do about 3/4 to half of what you are doing today, but you also payed less for other things, plex costed almost half of what it cost today.
So of course the prices are higher. No s**h sherlock.


And as stated earlier, there is no freakin any risk in mining in 0.0 space.
Most of these systems are either completely empty, or have mining ops backed-up by guards and intel.
The only place with real risk is in WHs, where you can't have real intel or know what is coming, unless you are a serious paranoid person.

Matters not. When I started 2 1/2 yrs ago, yes an Osprey had issues with the .5 rats. Sheesh. You just love pooh-poohing every statement made on the Forums.

Too bad big alliance actaully get everything possibly done in high sec because any production in low/null is more trouble.

Did you by any chance put up another tower?

Someone finally gets it, I think I should go do a shot now.

If you are talking about the light missile launcher you can fit, then it's sadly still terribad because the beginner miner would lack the support skill to make it efficient. Going like a true newbie, 0.6 is already hard to deal with. I personally ahd to warp out of belt often before filling the cargo hold. Thats a pure miner training with no support skill because miners who does not know better will only train toward mining.




It was said 14 trillion time in the last 2 weeks iirc...

I'm not talking about missile launchers at all, I'm merely wondering if Krixtal "ragequit" Icefluxor put up another tower. Also just because we say something and corroborate it doesn't mean morons won't keep spouting the same wrong crap .

261.3%Veldspar
301.8%Scordite
293.8%Pyroxeres
299.7%Plagioclase
187.9%Omber
286.7%Kernite
298.5%Jaspet
301.2%Hemorphite
315.0%Hedbergite
116.6%Gneiss
216.4%Dark Ochre
100.0%Spodumain
230.5%Crockite
248.5%Bistot
339.8%Arkonor

106.7%Veldspar
106.3%Scordite
137.7%Pyroxeres
100.0%Plagioclase
100.1%Omber
126.3%Kernite
186.9%Jaspet
209.5%Hemorphite
214.0%Hedbergite
122.2%Gneiss
190.7%Dark Ochre
108.2%Spodumain
251.8%Crockite
292.3%Bistot
382.4%Arkonor

then working as intended more risk in HS tehn null blue firewalls IMO i guess this can be closed now eh

not myopic at all the market is a free player driven market now that tools that used to pump the market with mineral IE bots and drone goo are gone and HS miners can make a decent wage for how they want to play the game your throwing a tantrum because the overmined and over inflated market of High-end minerals has become a .01 isk game since null miners are trying to sell the wares they built up and do not want to be sitting on a stockpile of items that the value is descending........ since this is a open market and we the players are driving it why not take control instead of crying to CCP to fix what is not broken?

It's interesting to see that there are still people who believe the current mineral prices are completely driven by player activities and completely ignore the changes to the game that drove those changes. The players are reacting to a change CCP made to other systems, and due to the complexity of eve an unfortunate outcome has arisen. Its players that place the buy/sell orders but its CCP that creates the system that drives the players.

and i give a fuq about proper grammar in a gaming world because?

and you point nothin out but an attempt to say my POV is myopic but where is the proofs so by you adding attributes to myself i only felt it fair to add tehm back no?

Im not trying to make ppl form an opinion was just tossing out my 2 cents personally idc that null ores are less valuable makes me happy when i build and sell things