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Odelya d'Hanguest
1st Praetorian Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
96
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Posted - 2012.08.19 15:37:00 -
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If a member of the military came to you with his collar undone or with one of his buttons missing, you should take it for granted that he is doomed to fail in battlefields. Of course, having oneGÇÖs collar or buttons done does not necessarily bring about victory in battlefields. This is only part of the issue and not the whole. This means that if one of these members of the military met all the requirements, yet he came to you with his boot strings loose or undone, you could be assured that he would not be able to fulfil your expectations in battlefields.
Members of the military should always do a neat, tidy job and carry out the orders exactly when they are required to. Members of the army should not walk in a lazy and listless manner.
A high-ranking army officer who also happened to be a crusader came to visit me once. He was so virtuous that he had come to visit me in his slippers.
I told him that I would refuse to let him in if I saw him again like that. I asked him to leave and refused to meet with him. Next time he came to visit me, he was wearing a pair of tidy boots!
Some people have a misconception about being a soldier or a militia member. They think it means being untidy and disorganised. This is not acceptable. The commander of the faithful Amash-Akura, who is the chief of all Reclaimers throughout history, said: GÇ£one must be organised in his affairs.GÇ¥ Some might ask what being organised would mean. It is in fact adhering to the rules that we are required to observe in every place. Every place has its own regulations, and so does a battlefield. Therefore, those who fight in battlefields must also observe certain rules. Ceterum censeo Patorem esse delendam. |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
765
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Posted - 2012.08.19 16:49:00 -
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Following dress code is extremely important while in uniform. I approve this message. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1073
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Posted - 2012.08.19 20:47:00 -
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I've always said that ordered clothing equates to an ordered soul. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Kazzzi
Heathen Legion Ushra'Khan
138
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Posted - 2012.08.19 21:07:00 -
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You Imperials are no match for the discipline and uniformity of the Kaztropolitan Household Guard |

Makkal Hanaya
Hanaya Deferment Co
278
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Posted - 2012.08.19 21:27:00 -
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I've walked around a number battle cruisers where the crew were in sweatpants and flip-flops during the 'night' shift. I've also worked with planetside infantry where soldiers had been fighting on the front line for over 60 days, and were managing about four hours of sleep a night. In neither of those situations were collars neatly pressed and tucked.
although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Damsa Desirah
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
10
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Posted - 2012.08.20 01:04:00 -
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I press a question to you Ms. Odelya.
If you were brave enough to help Your Empress, by actually enlisting into the Militia, mayhap you would have stressed this to your fellow Militia Mates. For, by your assumption, The Amarr Militia is losing so horridly because they are all so disorganized.
Maybe CVA should join the Amarr Militia, perhaps then... We Republican Militia men wouldn't have claiming Kamela for Ourselves!
Join the Militia and join the fight for what you believe! It's not what your Alliance can do for you... It's what you can do to them before they realize you really work for the almighty WormHole God, BoB... |

Odelya d'Hanguest
1st Praetorian Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
96
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Posted - 2012.08.20 03:00:00 -
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Damasa Desirah,
it is my pleasure to answer your question, though I may only scratch on it. And I advise you to fear the Lord and organise your affairs.
Long before I obtained my pod licence and before I destroyed more than one thousand four hounded vessels belonging to the Minmatar militia, and long before you betrayed your people and religion by ridiculing its tenets and fighting its adherents, CVA took the word of the Reclaiming: to enforce Amarrian law and bring an end to piracy in the Empire, to increase economic development and prosperity, to stabilise and strengthen space to further the EmpireGÇÖs territorial reclaiming. The reclaiming has many ways.
Regards, Odelya dGÇÖHanguest Optio of the 1st Praetorian Guard and Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade Ceterum censeo Patorem esse delendam. |

Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
35
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Posted - 2012.08.20 03:47:00 -
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Am i to believe the most effective way to furthur the Amarrians goals are to.
1) Leave Amarrian space and live in random nullsec. 2) Watch from 0.0 as amarrian space burns, and offering what i can only assume is encouragement from the sidelines. 3) Talk about neatness, pressed uniforms and the disgusting habit of slipper wearing.
so now that we've cleared that up, can i just tell you that wearing neatly polished boots or mud covered wellingtons. an autocannon to the hull will still explode your ship.
the last time CVA had any impact atall on the conflict between amarr and minmatar, well actually i cant remember.
Any way good luck on your little neatness initiative. TRIAD is recruiting "TRIAD Agency" in game channel |

Mardon Hashur
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
36
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Posted - 2012.08.20 10:29:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:I've walked around a number battle cruisers where the crew were in sweatpants and flip-flops during the 'night' shift. I've also worked with planetside infantry where soldiers had been fighting on the front line for over 60 days, and were managing about four hours of sleep a night. In neither of those situations were collars neatly pressed and tucked.
As far as a battlefield goes, it is understandable for a solider to be out of proper uniform because of the conditions. However, on a battle cruiser, if it is in the navy, all crew should be in working uniform or an equivalent. If the vessel in question is completely owned by a civilian then it is the captains choice on the dress code. The corporation to who the pilot belongs should also be able to demand a uniform for off duty and working conditions
Sincerly Mardon Hashur |

Odelya d'Hanguest
1st Praetorian Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
97
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Posted - 2012.08.20 11:44:00 -
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Horak Thor wrote: 1) Leave Amarrian space and live in random nullsec. 2) Watch from 0.0 as amarrian space burns, and offering what i can only assume is encouragement from the sidelines.
You, little savage lad, have no idea what Amarrian space is and means.
I do completely agree with Initiate Hashur on this topic. Yet even on a planetary battlefield and during the roughest conditions order is the law of all intelligible existence.
Ceterum censeo Patorem esse delendam. |

Bucky O'Hair
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
80
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Posted - 2012.08.20 11:59:00 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Horak Thor wrote: 1) Leave Amarrian space and live in random nullsec. 2) Watch from 0.0 as amarrian space burns, and offering what i can only assume is encouragement from the sidelines.
You, little savage lad, have no idea what Amarrian space is and means. I do completely agree with Initiate Hashur on this topic. Yet even on a planetary battlefield and during the roughest conditions order is the law of all intelligible existence.
It is you who does not have any idea what Amarrian space is and means.
Of course I understand your dilemma, what, with us taking so much of your territory, it must be hard for you and yours to keep up. We Are Ushra'Khan!
We are coming for our people. |

Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
37
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:08:00 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Horak Thor wrote: 1) Leave Amarrian space and live in random nullsec. 2) Watch from 0.0 as amarrian space burns, and offering what i can only assume is encouragement from the sidelines.
You, little savage lad, have no idea what Amarrian space is and means. I do completely agree with Initiate Hashur on this topic. Yet even on a planetary battlefield and during the roughest conditions order is the law of all intelligible existence.
This little savage lad spends more time in what used to be amarrian space, but is now minmatar, than you null dwelling cowards.
Little hint providence isnt amarrian space, devoid and the bleak lands are. TRIAD is recruiting "TRIAD Agency" in game channel |

Kazzzi
Heathen Legion Ushra'Khan
138
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:10:00 -
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Damsa Desirah wrote:If you were brave enough to help Your Empress, by actually enlisting into the Militia... Horak Thor wrote: Leave Amarrian space and live in random nullsec....Watch from 0.0 as amarrian space burns, and offering what i can only assume is encouragement from the sidelines.
Last I checked, CVA space in Providence IS Imperial Amarrian space as per The Reclaiming. I also understand that Providence has large planetary and extra-planetary populations. Possibly just as many people live in Providence as in your chosen warzone, including YOUR people. People who once looked upon your alliance as their guardian and savior. I'm sure those poor souls understand the hardships UNITY has faced which has kept us away, but I doubt they ever expected to be snubbed like this. To say Providence is not important is to say your people there are not important to you.
Not to mention CVA is often preoccupied with enemies of the Amarr Empire that are far more powerful than the Minmatar militia. A few significant miscalculations notwithstanding, they have done a fine job defending the Empire's southern border. I give credit here where credit is due.
I'm pretty sure you all are just trying to throw a few jabs at the slavers here, but I know you can find better ways to heckle them. |

Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
165
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:34:00 -
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Sorry but I'd take a scruffy looking pilot who actually fights than some trim and tidy high and mighty God-lover sitting pretty in a backwater nul sec watching the rest of the world burn. Egotistical jack ass... |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
335
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:23:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Sorry but I'd take a scruffy looking pilot who actually fights than some trim and tidy high and mighty God-lover sitting pretty in a backwater nul sec watching the rest of the world burn. Egotistical jack ass...
To most of the cluster and most capsuleers with a modicum of common sense the disputed factional-warfare 'territory' is the backwater, idiot.
Now back to the subject at hand, impeccable dressing does make the woman, or man.
Ordered body, ordered mind. Appearances count.
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Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
165
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:39:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Anslo wrote:Sorry but I'd take a scruffy looking pilot who actually fights than some trim and tidy high and mighty God-lover sitting pretty in a backwater nul sec watching the rest of the world burn. Egotistical jack ass... To most of the cluster and most capsuleers with a modicum of common sense the disputed factional-warfare 'territory' is the backwater, idiot.
If you had a modicum of common sense too, you'd see I was talking about the useless sliver of nul they hold and "police." Why do eggers feel a need to use an extensive vocabulary when arguing with someone? Trying to cover for something? |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
335
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:45:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Silas Vitalia wrote:Anslo wrote:Sorry but I'd take a scruffy looking pilot who actually fights than some trim and tidy high and mighty God-lover sitting pretty in a backwater nul sec watching the rest of the world burn. Egotistical jack ass... To most of the cluster and most capsuleers with a modicum of common sense the disputed factional-warfare 'territory' is the backwater, idiot. If you had a modicum of common sense too, you'd see I was talking about the useless sliver of nul they hold and "police." Why do eggers feel a need to use an extensive vocabulary when arguing with someone? Trying to cover for something?
Then what location were you referring to when you say "watching the rest of the world burn"?
I use the same vocabulary when 'arguing' or having a drink, child. It's only 'extensive' by comparison.
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Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
165
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:51:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Anslo wrote:Silas Vitalia wrote:Anslo wrote:Sorry but I'd take a scruffy looking pilot who actually fights than some trim and tidy high and mighty God-lover sitting pretty in a backwater nul sec watching the rest of the world burn. Egotistical jack ass... To most of the cluster and most capsuleers with a modicum of common sense the disputed factional-warfare 'territory' is the backwater, idiot. If you had a modicum of common sense too, you'd see I was talking about the useless sliver of nul they hold and "police." Why do eggers feel a need to use an extensive vocabulary when arguing with someone? Trying to cover for something? Then what location were you referring to when you say "watching the rest of the world burn"? I use the same vocabulary when 'arguing' or having a drink, child. It's only 'extensive' by comparison.
No it's not extensive by comparison, I simply don't feel the need to justify myself to a "child" pilot flaunting an overly engineered lexicon in order to cover her own short comings. Creating an assumption regarding an individual's command of language based on a passe interaction while flaunting their own "linguistic abilities" is nothing but a sign of ignorance on their part.
I don't flaunt without need. Speaking plainly and in a straight forward manner is far better than honeyed words.
As to the location, if you did your research, you'd realize what I'm talking about. |

Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
37
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Posted - 2012.08.20 15:46:00 -
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Kazzzi wrote:Damsa Desirah wrote:If you were brave enough to help Your Empress, by actually enlisting into the Militia... Horak Thor wrote: Leave Amarrian space and live in random nullsec....Watch from 0.0 as amarrian space burns, and offering what i can only assume is encouragement from the sidelines. Last I checked, CVA space in Providence IS Imperial Amarrian space as per The Reclaiming. I also understand that Providence has large planetary and extra-planetary populations. Possibly just as many people live in Providence as in your chosen warzone, including YOUR people. People who once looked upon your alliance as their guardian and savior. I'm sure those poor souls understand the hardships UNITY has faced which has kept us away, but I doubt they ever expected to be snubbed like this. To say Providence is not important is to say your people there are not important to you. Not to mention CVA is often preoccupied with enemies of the Amarr Empire that are far more powerful than the Minmatar militia. A few significant miscalculations notwithstanding, they have done a fine job defending the Empire's southern border. I give credit here where credit is due. I'm pretty sure you all are just trying to throw a few jabs at the slavers here, but I know you can find better ways to heckle them.
Last i checked best place to start an arguement with an alliance member is in public, welldone.
Did i ever say provi wasnt improtant? No.
What i did say was whilst the amarrian militia is falling to pieces and 2 entire regions of amarrian home soil are taken by the minmatar, the most powerful amarrian capsuleer alliance is nowhere to be seen.
Instead they are posting in the forums about neatness, that sir is ********. TRIAD is recruiting "TRIAD Agency" in game channel |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
335
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:04:00 -
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Horak Thor wrote:
Instead they are posting in the forums about neatness, that sir is ********.
Almost as bad as taking the time to post complaints in the neatness thread, neh?
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Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
37
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:07:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Horak Thor wrote:
Instead they are posting in the forums about neatness, that sir is ********.
Almost as bad as taking the time to post complaints in the neatness thread, neh?
Not much else to do since the amarr wont fight, or cant. TRIAD is recruiting "TRIAD Agency" in game channel |

Azdan Amith
Order of Light's Retribution
190
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:15:00 -
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Horak Thor wrote:Not much else to do since the amarr wont fight, or cant.
I would suggest turning your attention inward and using a portion of your, no doubt not insubstantial, wealth and assets to provide for the planetside populations within the Republic and the space you've recently wrested. I know it can be a daunting task to try and focus on something other than endless combat, pillaging, murdering and raping; but I do encourage you to try it. |

Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
165
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:25:00 -
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Azdan Amith wrote:Horak Thor wrote:Not much else to do since the amarr wont fight, or cant. I would suggest turning your attention inward and using a portion of your, no doubt not insubstantial, wealth and assets to provide for the planetside populations within the Republic and the space you've recently wrested. I know it can be a daunting task to try and focus on something other than endless combat, pillaging, murdering and raping; but I do encourage you to try it.
Pretty sure the only raping going on is from you bible thumpers with your minmatar slaves. The man's (Thor's) point still stands. |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
335
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:29:00 -
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Anslo wrote:No it's not extensive by comparison, I simply don't feel the need to justify myself to a "child" pilot flaunting an overly engineered lexicon in order to cover her own short comings. Creating an assumption regarding an individual's command of language based on a passe interaction while flaunting their own "linguistic abilities" is nothing but a sign of ignorance on their part. I don't flaunt without need. Speaking plainly and in a straight forward manner is far better than honeyed words. As to the location, if you did your research, you'd realize what I'm talking about.
Not the need to justify, but still the need to explain yourself, got it.
Let's review: You're getting petulant due to someone else's vocabulary, which might just be a new low for the IGS.
Once upon a time capsuleers argued over content, not delivery method.
And this "child" is older than you.... and based on your public pilot record quite a bit more stable with both regular employment and competency on the battlefield.
If you'd like to compare specific shortcomings on a per-item bases though I'd be happy to put my record in any area right against yours.
Back to the topic then?
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Azdan Amith
Order of Light's Retribution
190
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:29:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Azdan Amith wrote:Horak Thor wrote:Not much else to do since the amarr wont fight, or cant. I would suggest turning your attention inward and using a portion of your, no doubt not insubstantial, wealth and assets to provide for the planetside populations within the Republic and the space you've recently wrested. I know it can be a daunting task to try and focus on something other than endless combat, pillaging, murdering and raping; but I do encourage you to try it. Pretty sure the only raping going on is from you bible thumpers with your minmatar slaves. The man's (Thor's) point still stands.
What's a bible? Also, you'd be incorrect in your understanding but I doubt you've bothered to do any real investigation into it so we'll just leave it there. |

Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
167
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:39:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote: Not the need to justify, but still the need to explain yourself, got it.
Let's review: You're getting petulant due to someone else's vocabulary, which might just be a new low for the IGS.
Once upon a time capsuleers argued over content, not delivery method.
And this "child" is older than you.... and based on your public pilot record quite a bit more stable with both regular employment and competency on the battlefield.
If you'd like to compare specific shortcomings on a per-item bases though I'd be happy to put my record in any area right against yours.
Back to the topic then?
I moved corps a lot, because I was bored. Battle field wise, sure you have more kills then me. I don't care. Put your record up against mine, please. I'll laugh at my losses. I had a good time. I'm still gonna call you, just like every other ******* egger, who acts and speaks like their some superior god. Deal. |

Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
39
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:41:00 -
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Azdan Amith wrote:Anslo wrote:Azdan Amith wrote:Horak Thor wrote:Not much else to do since the amarr wont fight, or cant. I would suggest turning your attention inward and using a portion of your, no doubt not insubstantial, wealth and assets to provide for the planetside populations within the Republic and the space you've recently wrested. I know it can be a daunting task to try and focus on something other than endless combat, pillaging, murdering and raping; but I do encourage you to try it. Pretty sure the only raping going on is from you bible thumpers with your minmatar slaves. The man's (Thor's) point still stands. What's a bible? Also, you'd be incorrect in your understanding but I doubt you've bothered to do any real investigation into it so we'll just leave it there.
Maybe you dont understand the anger at having 1/3 of you people enslaved, no doubt you cant comprehend it being amarrian. but the constant knowledge that 1/3 of your race is toiling under unfavourable circumstances, and as i write this large percentages of the remaining heritage of my people are being brainwashed, or subjugated, its hard to put down our arms until this is rectified, for me, impossible.
The matari people displaced by the recent fighting are being helped as much as the republic can do so, myself being in the military arm of the organization, am better suited to protecting the space they are moving into by force, each arm of the organization has its purpose mine is warfare, a duty im more than happy to carry out.
My vast wealth will be invested into ensuring more slaves are freed and brought back into the fold, if you believe the republic to be that poor that it cannot care for its own people without the help of a capsuleers finances, your sadly mistaken. (the fact my entire income is paid for by the republic should tell you that your assumption is false). TRIAD is recruiting "TRIAD Agency" in game channel |

Uraniae Fehrnah
VokoV
138
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:48:00 -
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Now I may be wrong here and I certainly am not privy to internal discussions within CVA, but I do seem to recall that when CONCORD authorized alliances to join the (utterly pointless) "faction war" that there was much debate over if CVA should get involved. If memory serves the decision was that CVA has spent so much time and effort in trying to maintain and strengthen Imperial order within Providence that they would not be diverting their attention to the warzone. By and large I'd wager that the average CVA member considers Providence to be their post or their station, so it seems rather silly to me for people to complain when a group who said they wouldn't get involved, doesn't get involved.
And yes, I'm sorry to go bursting any bubbles here, but this entire CONCORD regulated war truly is pointless in the grand scheme of things. Oh certainly systems change hands and the navies of each empire move in behind the capsuleer militia pilots to start building defenses and impose a new order on the planetside populations. However none of the stations ever change hands (correct me if I'm wrong there) and more importantly so many pilots seem to miss the rather important but somewhat subtle distinction CONCORD has made by designating "contested areas." That being the areas are contested. Officially, as far as CONCORD is concerned, the contested areas do not belong to any empire. One group might take a system, they might take all the systems in the contested area, but the fact remains that the whole area will still be contested. The Militias aren't claiming territory, they are playing a game of tag, and will continue to play the game of tag right up until CONCORD, on a whim, decides to stop the game.
Back to the original topic though, regardless of what someone might say, there is definitely value in a military man or woman maintaining a professional appearance whenever possible. A well groomed and smartly dressed servicewoman can inspire the population they serve, not to mention the other military persons that see them. That inspiration can foster a sense of unity and pride in the people that see it as well as those in uniform. Now of course the best dressed side doesn't win every battle, but the most inspired, the most driven, and the most dedicated side seems to win more, and appearances can and do build that drive and dedication in some, perhaps most, people. |

Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
40
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:57:00 -
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Uraniae Fehrnah wrote: However none of the stations ever change hands (correct me if I'm wrong there).
Confirming i am correcting you because you are wrong. TRIAD is recruiting "TRIAD Agency" in game channel |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
767
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Posted - 2012.08.20 17:17:00 -
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Well this thread escalated quickly.
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