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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler It has been an interesting weekend so far. Our shiny new forums havenÆt worked quite as expected and they have been going up and down a few times. We have opened up our trusted old forums for your posting pleasure and we will be keeping the new forums down until they can be sorted out. There will be more information on this on Monday. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you and we thank you for your patience and understanding.
CCP needs to apologize for throwing out untested unfinished unpolished rubbish at customers as well, to a community that is so dedicated to your company's product and expecting nothing but excellence and deliverance, this is an insult.
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:44:00 -
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Quote: If Sreegs isn't a web developer then how can you expect him to know whether something is exploitable or not?
when you have a guy touting himself as "The Security Guy" geeee I wonder why ppl are gonna think he has something to do with security? ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Mortania
Minmatar Kinetic Cartel Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler It has been an interesting weekend so far. Our shiny new forums havenÆt worked quite as expected and they have been going up and down a few times. We have opened up our trusted old forums for your posting pleasure and we will be keeping the new forums down until they can be sorted out. There will be more information on this on Monday. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you and we thank you for your patience and understanding.
We tease because we care.
But, in all seriousness. It sucks that you guys all had to come in on a weekend to try and fix some damned forums.
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata
Originally by: CCP Wrangler It has been an interesting weekend so far. Our shiny new forums havenÆt worked quite as expected and they have been going up and down a few times. We have opened up our trusted old forums for your posting pleasure and we will be keeping the new forums down until they can be sorted out. There will be more information on this on Monday. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you and we thank you for your patience and understanding.
CCP needs to apologize for throwing out untested unfinished unpolished rubbish at customers as well, to a community that is so dedicated to your company's product and expecting nothing but excellence and deliverance, this is an insult.
You have my sincere and personal apology and I also apologize on behalf of CCP.
Wrangler Senior Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Calathea Sata
Originally by: CCP Wrangler It has been an interesting weekend so far. Our shiny new forums havenÆt worked quite as expected and they have been going up and down a few times. We have opened up our trusted old forums for your posting pleasure and we will be keeping the new forums down until they can be sorted out. There will be more information on this on Monday. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you and we thank you for your patience and understanding.
CCP needs to apologize for throwing out untested unfinished unpolished rubbish at customers as well, to a community that is so dedicated to your company's product and expecting nothing but excellence and deliverance, this is an insult.
You have my sincere and personal apology and I also apologize on behalf of CCP.
Can we have that on You Tube too?
What... Whaaaat?
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mortania But, in all seriousness. It sucks that you guys all had to come in on a weekend to try and fix some damned forums.
Most other companies deploy new code in the middle of the week, they could have done the same...
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 10/04/2011 00:50:21
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You have my sincere and personal apology and I also apologize on behalf of CCP.
never thought Id actually see an MO company own up to having released crap rather than pretending it wasnt O.o
Ok, wrangler, you got a bit of respect there. Were this any other company, theyd bull**** us till the end of the game before they admit they did wrong, till after the end in some cases. ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T And to think boot.ini only affected a relatively small portion of the game's population... whereas the forums... well, you get the idea.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Calathea Sata
Originally by: CCP Wrangler It has been an interesting weekend so far. Our shiny new forums havenÆt worked quite as expected and they have been going up and down a few times. We have opened up our trusted old forums for your posting pleasure and we will be keeping the new forums down until they can be sorted out. There will be more information on this on Monday. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you and we thank you for your patience and understanding.
CCP needs to apologize for throwing out untested unfinished unpolished rubbish at customers as well, to a community that is so dedicated to your company's product and expecting nothing but excellence and deliverance, this is an insult.
You have my sincere and personal apology and I also apologize on behalf of CCP.
Security holes aside, how about an assurance that user feedback will be actually USED next time you ask us to test the forums ? Or what about making the new forums not just barely functional and somewhat secure, but actually a clear improvement over the current ones in every single way ? _
Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts _
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:50:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 10/04/2011 00:52:01
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Sig: If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid.
What if its stupid and it doesnt work?
Then it's stupid.
If it's stupid and explodes, that's when you start to have some real issuesà 
Originally by: De'Veldrin Tippia, I have often said you have the patience of a saint, but I think you may have moved into a state bordering on denial at this point.
I wouldn't call it "denial" so much as some kind of nanve romanticism ù hope springs eternal and all that noise. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:51:00 -
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Oh , I guess was supposed to post questions in this thread.. i'll drag my question here.
I'm wondering what the problem is myself. Learning how to create a forum is a project in most programing for web books. And jeeze forums have been a staple from the very earliest days of the web so the mistakes that can be made must be pretty common knowledge for anyone in the busines at all.
But, I'll give the benefit of the doubt that they are attempting something unique?
Is it the interface between the game database thats an issue ? (and can't that be solved by a once a day indexing of the game info and transfer the index to the forum server?)
Well I won't guess cause thats just not my area.. but i'd love to understand the general aspects that make a forum so much more difficult in this situation that elsewhere?
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Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Security holes aside, how about an assurance that user feedback will be actually USED next time you ask us to test the forums ? Or what about making the new forums not just barely functional and somewhat secure, but actually a clear improvement over the current ones in every single way ?
Honestly I doubt any of the CCP forum types actually CAN make any of those requests true, even if they say they can.
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Siiee
Recycled Heroes
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
But, I'll give the benefit of the doubt that they are attempting something unique?
They took off-the-shelf forum software and bodged their own auth methods with a fair helping of dynamic bling.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:55:00 -
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If you want to hire me, I'll make you all new boards from scratch and not use php for them :P - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Siiee
Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
But, I'll give the benefit of the doubt that they are attempting something unique?
They took off-the-shelf forum software and bodged their own auth methods with a fair helping of dynamic bling.
Dynamic Bling? When do we get SPINNERS for our ships?
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T how about an assurance that user feedback will be actually USED next time you ask us to test the forums ?
eve user feedback... 50% says the font is to small, 50% says it's not big enough... 50% says the background color should be black, 50% says it should be white...
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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:57:00 -
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Apology accepted. CCP now please prove your sincerity by your actions. Excellence. Deliverance.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata Apology accepted. CCP now please prove your sincerity by your actions. Excellence. Deliverance.
I'm waiting to see it on the CCP YouTube channel... in HD.
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Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Calathea Sata
Originally by: CCP Wrangler It has been an interesting weekend so far. Our shiny new forums havenÆt worked quite as expected and they have been going up and down a few times. We have opened up our trusted old forums for your posting pleasure and we will be keeping the new forums down until they can be sorted out. There will be more information on this on Monday. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you and we thank you for your patience and understanding.
CCP needs to apologize for throwing out untested unfinished unpolished rubbish at customers as well, to a community that is so dedicated to your company's product and expecting nothing but excellence and deliverance, this is an insult.
You have my sincere and personal apology and I also apologize on behalf of CCP.
Security holes aside, how about an assurance that user feedback will be actually USED next time you ask us to test the forums ? Or what about making the new forums not just barely functional and somewhat secure, but actually a clear improvement over the current ones in every single way ?
This
The new forums should have everything the old forums have and more. Not a mixed bag of dubious features coupled with reduced functionality. Patience is not something you guys need to worry about here, we don't care if it gets released late so long as it's better, and that it WORKS when it gets released.
It's not like the old ones are falling to bits, they'll do perfectly well until the new forums are polished to a satisfactory level.
Oh and an option for an ultra low bandwidth (no avatars, plain black background, no animations etc) mode would be great, I'm paying by the kb here and while I like the new look of the forum, sometimes I wanna post without chewing through my internet.
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Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: Copine Callmeknau on 10/04/2011 01:02:09 Miilla your sig is ****ing awful, also it's oversized and gonna get nerfed when a mod sees it
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Siiee
Recycled Heroes
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Akita T how about an assurance that user feedback will be actually USED next time you ask us to test the forums ?
eve user feedback... 50% says the font is to small, 50% says it's not big enough... 50% says the background color should be black, 50% says it should be white...
100% of user complaints could be fixed by 2 user option settings? I'd call that an easy win. 
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:03:00 -
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I think the main issue was a lot of people weren't reporting bugs during testing or those that said they were didnt.
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Copine Callmeknau The new forums should have everything the old forums have and more. Not a mixed bag of dubious features coupled with reduced functionality. Patience is not something you guys need to worry about here, we don't care if it gets released late so long as it's better, and that it WORKS when it gets released.
Except form the security being non existing, the forums was ready for use no reason not to release them.
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau Oh and an option for an ultra low bandwidth (no avatars, plain black background, no animations etc) mode would be great, I'm paying by the kb here and while I like the new look of the forum, sometimes I wanna post without chewing through my internet.
Disable images in you browser if it's that big a problem...
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Copine Callmeknau Edited by: Copine Callmeknau on 10/04/2011 01:02:09 Miilla your sig is ****ing awful, also it's oversized and gonna get nerfed when a mod sees it
Yours is too violent and should be also nerfed due to the blood and gore.
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Mortania
Minmatar Kinetic Cartel Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
Patience is not something you guys need to worry about here, we don't care if it gets released late so long as it's better, and that it WORKS when it gets released.
It's not like the old ones are falling to bits, they'll do perfectly well until the new forums are polished to a satisfactory level.
SO this.
These forums work, most people were *****ing about the change over before it happened. You don't need to rush out the new forums, at all! Beta test those suckers for a few months. Have them live and optional while you fix them. Then when it's 100% and has everything we love about the old forums and more, then bring on the new forums.
Also, please find some way to populate the old forum posts to the new forums, at least the under 90 days ones. This will allow these forums to be relevant and important right up until the change over occurs. Oh and buy out eve-search.com so that the old forums are preserved for as long as this game is running (in a easily searchable format).
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:04:00 -
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Oh, while we're at it, I'm curios to your guys thoughts on an issue long long bantered about.
Wouldn't using different forum password than those used to log into the game itself be much more secure in many instances (like when we access forums from computers at freinds houses , via wifi, or from semi public computers)
Would that be a large technical hurdle for developers to program ?
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:06:00 -
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Yep... duke nukem forever took forever to finish, but people were still waiting for it as it was going to be epic :) ------------------------------------------------- Play with the best - die like the rest starwreck.com - support the cause :) |

Mortania
Minmatar Kinetic Cartel Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: dexington
Except form the security being non existing, the forums was ready for use no reason not to release them.
You're a moron. img support, sigs, color support, read/unread posts, understandable last read functionality, like system, all broken.
And I'm not bringing in the visual items others complain about, because I found them mostly to be better.
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leboe
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler It has been an interesting weekend so far. Our shiny new forums havenÆt worked quite as expected and they have been going up and down a few times. We have opened up our trusted old forums for your posting pleasure and we will be keeping the new forums down until they can be sorted out. There will be more information on this on Monday. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you and we thank you for your patience and understanding.
they worked exactly how the users expected them to after looking at the beta, broken, ugly and exploitable.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:10:00 -
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HOW MUCH FREE SKILL POINTS ARE WE GETTING FOR THIS?
Well, somebody had to ask :)
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