That's not true, they censored one of our favorite peoples' names from the forums and permabanned him.


Because that was a totally effective method of damage control. Really, it was. Mad props to whoever came up with that idea.

You need to let this go.
This topic would have gone alot farther and been alot more productive if you would have not pointed fingers.
Even your title is set up to inflame, you could have said 0.0 Alliance "legalising" Botting!!

Nobody is argueing that what was done was questionable.
But that is CCP's call on what to do about it and if it is bannable.
You need to report it and move on.

But parking on a yellow line isnt hurting anyone.

Consider this an official GSF response to this garbage thread.


We do not condone botting. We think it is destructive to the game. We tell people not to bot and strongly discourage it because it's stupid and easily caught, not to mention it cheapens the effort of players who play the game the way it was meant to be. We are also not CCP's policemen. It is not our job to police botting or EULA breaking activities in the game, this is CCP's job. CCP Sreegs is doing a wonderful job policing this and we support his actions. Asking a playerbase to police EULA infractions is dumb and it is not our place. There is a report bot mechanism, we encourage people to use it.

*slow clap*
This is a perfect example of a politician
Can anyone else see him talking out both sides of his mouth here?

Way to go Goons. Forum bots as well now?

Yes of course.

Except that this topic has over 200 replies and nearly 3000 views. Attempts have been made to repeatedly dumb it down and dissipate the topic at hand.

And yet the question still remains....

Should the Goons (or ANY alliance) be allowed to

1) Threaten players for reporting?
2) Even address the issue of reporting bots internally when the EULA is CCP v Individual.
3) Knowingly harbour/support and secure ground for bots?

And CCP has not clarified the position on ALLIANCE intervention and involvement in EULA issues.

btw: I could give 100 analogies where refusing to acknowledge/address/act/report or indeed to participate in an illegal activity is deemed as legalising by proxy - it's perception based. My title stands. I have also explained my title in an earlier post.

Consider this an official GSF response to this garbage thread.


We do not condone botting. We think it is destructive to the game. We tell people not to bot and strongly discourage it because it's stupid and easily caught, not to mention it cheapens the effort of players who play the game the way it was meant to be. We are also not CCP's policemen. It is not our job to police botting or EULA breaking activities in the game, this is CCP's job. CCP Sreegs is doing a wonderful job policing this and we support his actions. Asking a playerbase to police EULA infractions is dumb and it is not our place. There is a report bot mechanism, we encourage people to use it.

You know labeling something an 'official response' is just another way of saying "here is a line of b.s. gobble it up please", right?

Goons are as knee deep in RMT as the 'other' main 0.0 power block. You and I and most people in Eve with a brain know this.

You know labeling something an 'official response' is just another way of saying "here is a line of b.s. gobble it up please", right?

Goons are as knee deep in RMT as the 'other' main 0.0 power block. You and I and most people in Eve with a brain know this.

You know labeling something an 'official response' is just another way of saying "here is a line of b.s. gobble it up please", right?

Goons are as knee deep in RMT as the 'other' main 0.0 power block. You and I and most people in Eve with a brain know this.

Where, oh where, did you read that Goons were "Above the law" outside of the OP? A CCP employee has told you that is not the case. Vile Rat has told you that is not the case. What, pray tell, leads you to the conclusion that Goons are a giant botting alliance that refuses to follow the EULA and gets away with it?

So allow me the conceit of speaking for all non Goons in EVE Online: We don't believe you. You and your CSM chairman, like all Goons, are practiced liars and proud of that fact. Short of outright insanity, what possible motivation would any of us have to believe a word you say now?

The end.

P.S. CCP's willful ignorance of what goes on in its own game is, sadly, of no great surprise. So I take CCP Screegs at his word when he says CCP has no intent of taking any meaningful action unless presented with irrefutable evidence of a coordinated RMT scheme at the corp/alliance level. Which is exactly what all of us expected of CCP prior to this dreary and depressing "debate" about a problem which is manifestly evident to everyone with a functioning brain stem, but which somehow continually seems to elude CCP.

I would challenge the concept that you have a brain hth.

Should the Goons (or ANY alliance) be allowed to

1) Threaten players for reporting?
2) Even address the issue of reporting bots internally when the EULA is CCP v Individual.
3) Knowingly harbour/support and secure ground for bots?

And CCP has not clarified the position on ALLIANCE intervention and involvement in EULA issues.

Dont get mad bro

We all understand it sucks when people point out your alliance for the lying sack of expletive that it is.

We are a joke, even by nullsec alliance "standards."

Seerg was pretty clear: Give them proof of organised eula flouting and they will take action.

Fixed that for ya, mate