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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:06:00 -
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It really is! And CCP Hekatonkheires tells us all about it in his new blog!
Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Iancasnim
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Iancasnim on 07/07/2011 16:11:19 Okay... this is really interesting. The Aurum unlock is the most interesting.
Looking forward to it.
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:12:00 -
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A marketing campaign and a new web presence.
Good to see you guys are working on what matters.
That was sarcasm, by the way.
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mkint
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: mkint on 07/07/2011 16:19:49 You know what's even more real? Going outside into the sunlight instead of sitting in your dark basement doing the marketing guys' job for them in the hope you'll get some monopoly money.
I call this for what it is... a ploy to get people enough space-gold to tempt them into buying more. This is a money grubbing ploy by the worst liars in CCP... the marketing team. DO NOT fall for it!
edit:
and lol @ the trailer "waaahhh it was so real... i still have flashbacks man" Seriously dude... buy a hooker.
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Sujanra Acoma
Minmatar Shadow Kitty Legion Rura-Penthe
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Sujanra Acoma on 07/07/2011 16:15:28 And the moaners appear in mere moments.
Sounds pretty cool, looking forward to seeing how it turns out! Gotta dig through screenshots and see if I have anything interesting...
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Zevas
Infinite Origins
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:15:00 -
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Possibly the worst trailer yet.
That was soooo cheesy.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:17:00 -
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your kidding right?
sigh
.End of line.
If your too paranoid to play EvE. . . ...then your not paranoid enough to play EvE ----------------
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Iancasnim
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Black Dranzer A marketing campaign and a new web presence.
Good to see you guys are working on what matters.
That was sarcasm, by the way.
Interesting. So, everyone that works for CCP must be working on code the advance EvE?
Originally by: mkint You know what's even more real? Going outside into the sunlight instead of sitting in your dark basement doing the marketing guys' job for them in the hope you'll get some monopoly money.
I call this for what it is... a ploy to get people enough space-gold to tempt them into buying more. This is a money grubbing ploy by the worst liars in CCP... the marketing team. DO NOT fall for it!
What do you think a company runs on? Hugs?
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Myronik
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:19:00 -
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PLease CCP gather and share old concept arts of EVE and old login advertisements
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Ilydia Sephyri
Defenders of Souls
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:22:00 -
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Love this idea for marketing. I'm totally in!!!
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:22:00 -
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Not there crew reporting in. What did i miss?
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Frau JeanYus
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:28:00 -
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Awesome Video!
I am impressed.
Opening new ideas and thinking to Eve, just awesome.
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kyrieee
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky Not there crew reporting in. What did i miss?
They buffed Gallente
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Myronik PLease CCP gather and share old concept arts of EVE and old login advertisements
they are bascialy trying to reward the people who have been putting up the good vids all this time.
and trying to get the comunity to make more.
and hopeing that we stop making vidoes like Jita Riots, the Mineing Vidio that bascialy features a mining ship. . .mining. . . enlessly . . . mining. . .. untill it suicides in boredom and Fearless Follys that features Vidio clips of CCPs staffers who are, well, Drunk or hungover at CCP events .End of line.
If your too paranoid to play EvE. . . ...then your not paranoid enough to play EvE ----------------
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Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:31:00 -
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Why are you showing Galente ships with hybrid guns when they are so broken and you refuse to balance them to be of actual use?
Can you please start balancing/fixing your game before you lure in more players by lies and deceive? ---
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Murbella Corrino
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:31:00 -
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Garrrgh, that was really quite cheesy...
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lisaaa
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:31:00 -
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Does this mean that they will fix Gallente ?! :O
THE APOCALYPSE IS COMING!!
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Usul Atreides
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:33:00 -
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Cheesy video.
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boseo
Gallente Azure Horizon
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:33:00 -
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Interesting to see the new angle for the video!
its something companies have done in the past (the halo live action trailers, and the assassins creed mini film) and can help to get peoples attention from the beginning by sometimes making them think "ohh what film is this?".
Wonder how well overall it will be received.
Also interesting the idea of 'eve museum' be nice to remember some of the big events again.
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Hachi Ironfist
Gallente Rubbish and Garbage Removal Bang Bang You're Dead
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:35:00 -
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Are those new WARP effects?!?!?!
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:36:00 -
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I'll help... for $99 and 20,000 Aurum.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Hyperforce99
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hachi Ironfist Are those new WARP effects?!?!?!
I think those effects were used for a while a few expansions ago, but quickly replaced with the current version of the warp tunnel effect. --------------------------------------------- Somewhere beyond happyness and sadness, I need to calculate what creates my own madness o/
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Hachi Ironfist
Gallente Rubbish and Garbage Removal Bang Bang You're Dead
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hyperforce99
Originally by: Hachi Ironfist Are those new WARP effects?!?!?!
I think those effects were used for a while a few expansions ago, but quickly replaced with the current version of the warp tunnel effect.
I do hope they put the ones in the trailer back, to see that flash when people warp out would be epic!
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GRIEV3R
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:40:00 -
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Good idea, good vid. Nice job, CCP! I'll contribute to the mini site when it rolls out.
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DeftCrow Redriver
Gallente Best Path Inc. Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:44:00 -
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Does the trailer mean local can get disabled and blasters are getting a buff in the future?
If that's the case... I look forward to it! -----------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP Zulu It is CCPæs plan that the Noble Exchange (NeX store) will be used for the sale of vanity items only.
...... We'll see. |
Xessej
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:45:00 -
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Quote: Interesting. So, everyone that works for CCP must be working on code the advance EvE?
I think it would be nice if the majority of them were.
This looks to be a fairly panicked attempt to achieve the usual post new expansion bump in total subs. What the marketing guys should be doing is going to the people deciding things and demanding that they concentrate on the things that make Eve unique and that have brought in and retained tens of thousands of players.
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lisaaa
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Hyperforce99
Originally by: Hachi Ironfist Are those new WARP effects?!?!?!
I think those effects were used for a while a few expansions ago, but quickly replaced with the current version of the warp tunnel effect.
Or they are part of the new effects update, where they mentioned new Cyno effects as well :D EPIC!
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:47:00 -
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Awesome video. That feeling is why we keep fleeting up in null. It is why I play this game.
This signature is useless, but it is red.
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:48:00 -
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Please fix cyrillic fonts on this page and in new account management. http://yfrog.com/kliuevp
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:50:00 -
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Awesome idea!!
Especially the involving the community is really good. And the Aurum unlock? :)))
With the history site, will the ISD/IC be involved? I suppose they have loads and loads of good history stuff! Not only about teams and events but also about singular people, like heists or amazing efforts by a single person.
The new trailer? Great visuals and exciting stuff! But it completely lacks any vision for the future of EVE :( Compare the wonderful Trinity trailer with that ... |
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:52:00 -
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Given that Aurum can't buy anything useful right now, can we assume that the NeX store inventory is going to be heavily updated *before* the community goal web site deal goes live?
----- Request for Eve Development Roadmap. Let CSM know that we want one.
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mkint
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: mkint on 07/07/2011 16:54:40
Originally by: Xessej
Quote: Interesting. So, everyone that works for CCP must be working on code the advance EvE?
I think it would be nice if the majority of them were.
This looks to be a fairly panicked attempt to achieve the usual post new expansion bump in total subs. What the marketing guys should be doing is going to the people deciding things and demanding that they concentrate on the things that make Eve unique and that have brought in and retained tens of thousands of players.
But then the megalomaniac CEO of CCP wouldn't get his virtual monocle! We'll do things his way damnit! Screw the players! Monocles online! I want to fly a giant monocle, shooting monocles! All those delicious monocles! Colleges now accept monocles as payment and CCP Megalomaniac controls all the monocles! muah haha (manic laughter of the truly crazy and out of touch... seriously, so many asshats in CCP these days out front and center... would bringing tomatoes to fanfest be considered an act of terrorism?)
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Coco Caine
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:55:00 -
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Oh dear - summer hole much? This is one cheesy vid...
I'd contribute a video about station games and long fleet form up times, but I'm too busy doing nothing.
Free Aurum? Something like one Aurum short from the cheapest shop item? Sounds like a Bright(tm) plan from the new virtual sales profit center.
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Eliana Bandokar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:55:00 -
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This is a pretty well-timed idea.
I don't know many people IRL who play, but I do know quite a few who have been reading about the recent unrest and keep asking me about this game that has people so invested in it they're willing to spend their time protesting and whatnot instead of playing.
I suspect a lot of us have done the same explaining over the last couple of weeks, about how EVE is just more "real" than other MMOs, and this would seem to be the perfect way to keep that aspect of it in front of potential new players (as well as giving existing players a nice nostalgia outlet).
All that said, the trailer was indeed cheesy :D
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Hydraka
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:56:00 -
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Give us fame we give you monocles?
No.
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Liu Ellens
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:57:00 -
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New Video: F*** YEAH!
-- We race. We die. There is no beauty anymore. |
XIRUSPHERE
Gallente The 8th Order
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:57:00 -
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Despite my previous statements I feel this is a step in the right direction. The players make this game. While the trailer is a little cheesy I think it's one of the best I have seen put out so far. You actually managed to describe a fleet engagement from players terms and I loved the inty burning 200k to get a warp in on a sniper fleet.
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Valarian Blacksun
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:59:00 -
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I wouldnt market your crap even if my life was on the line
Never ever
http://i.imgur.com/g3hEB.jpg <-- Never forgett CCP ... i wont
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Sciencegeek deathdealer
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:59:00 -
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Very nice.
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Flynn Fetladral
Caldari BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:59:00 -
[40]
**** YEAH! Follow Flynn on Twitter |
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:00:00 -
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good idea, and great excuse to spahm my crap!
Microtransactions? Click here and vote Yes, No or Cosmetic only
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Eliza Hacklehaber
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:01:00 -
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http://eve-history.net/
oh, and nice vid
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:01:00 -
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I hated the trailer for about 30 seconds, then found myself really enjoying it. Nice job CCP.
And the new mini-site? Effing brilliant...can't wait to read/hear/see what gets posted up there. ~Gnosis~ |
Mynx135
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:03:00 -
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\o/ this is sweet!
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Minsc
Gallente Alpha Empire
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:05:00 -
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Anyone else see this as a really good way for ccp to collect video clips to display on the middle screen in the CQ? Cause this just seems like a no-brainer imo.
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Gwenywell Shumuku
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:06:00 -
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ihhh no, this time you didn't hit me with the video. RL acted gaming videos suck most of the time, too cheesy.
And the idea...well, i suppose from now on just nothing will go without Aurum anymore hm? I always supported the idea to write the history of EVE down, and you start...8 years into the game. Also, what about the battle-recorder to capture the events? Will this show up someday? But yea, the important thing is to tie it in with Aurum...i suppose, for you anyways, to get acceptance.
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Della Monk
Broski Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:08:00 -
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The new trailer is cheesy, sure, but that's part of the charm I'd say. Although now that they're actively soliciting us for marketing, I wonder how long before they take actual fleet battles and make vids of them, original comm chatter and all.
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Florestan Bronstein
draketrain
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:08:00 -
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at least CCP realizes that at this point they have to pay us to advertise EVE for them...
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:09:00 -
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I understand how marketing works and you are being fairly transparent here about exploiting your player base.
On a basic level, the idea of using player experiences to promote your game is a fine one. I can think of many personal anecdotes which could be used in such a campaign. There is of course the issue of your definition of a 'reward'.
Unless you can transfer Aurum back to ISK then these token amounts of Aurum rewarded to players is utterly useless for those of us who wish to have nothing to do with the MT store. I can live with it's existence in game, mainly since there isn't exactly a lot of choice, but up until this suggestion it has been something I can ignore.
Now you are trying to unethically force your players into using it. I doubt these player rewards are going to be enough to buy even a single item from the Nex store forcing us to either sit looking at a 'reward' we cannot access, or to top up the amounts with plex. I am quite sure I am not the only person who wishes not to do so.
This smacks of forcing the playerbase into using the NEX store when they would otherwise have no interest.
Reward us in ISK, limited edition ships or anything else. Just not Aurum. ~~~
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Eileen Drake
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:12:00 -
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Give Chribba 1mil Aurum before you even begin
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Kalestia Barrak
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:13:00 -
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I fully understand the need to advertise in order to bring in new blood and expand the player base. This is good.
However, I question CCP's ability to retain said players after they've joined. The "sandbox" is great and all, for the few who can really take advantage of it. 0.0 and null sec remain either unacceptable or undesirable to most players in the game as is. That's not to say it's not enjoyable for those who are there, but despite it's impressiveness, CCP has yet to persuade any sizable portion of EVE's population base away from high-sec.
Simply put, the "sandbox" portion of EVE has too many risks and requires too much effort for most, while high-sec is too dull and under-developed to attract and maintain large numbers.
CCP's push to bring avatars into EVE and therefor appeal to the "doll-making" MMO crowd is no doubt a wise long-term move, but it seems wasted in it's limited scope. High system requirements for what is essentially walking around in an apartment with no social interaction is going to be a hard sell.
Again, I really wish the development team would see beyond a 6 month release cycle and really take the time to polish and develop a feature instead of chasing after subscriber spikes. Perhaps if time was spent on really making a polished expansion, CCP would be able to sell a true addition to gameplay instead of another gimmick.
I still maintain that EVE needs true content, like most other MMOs, and that it can add such without abandoning it's sandbox-style play. Missions, arcs, exploration, expeditions, and the like all provide an excellent, dynamic framework, and yet each has been abandoned in turn.
I am left wondering what kind of game CCP wants EVE to be. If it wants to retain it's place as a niche title with a relativally small subscriber base, then it need only continue it's current path. But if it wants to broaden its appeal and really build that huge universe it dreams about, then they will need to add much more than a new interface for ship spinning, nor can they pretend to offload all world-building onto the players. They will need to help build this as well.
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:15:00 -
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Show me the Aurum! Great marketing idea. Trolls will always find something to complain about. Pay them no mind. Keep up the good work CCP! I was there!
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Sino Sarn
Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
Now you are trying to unethically force your players into using it
... not seeing that part.
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank I understand how marketing works and you are being fairly transparent here about exploiting your player base.
On a basic level, the idea of using player experiences to promote your game is a fine one. I can think of many personal anecdotes which could be used in such a campaign. There is of course the issue of your definition of a 'reward'.
Unless you can transfer Aurum back to ISK then these token amounts of Aurum rewarded to players is utterly useless for those of us who wish to have nothing to do with the MT store. I can live with it's existence in game, mainly since there isn't exactly a lot of choice, but up until this suggestion it has been something I can ignore.
Now you are trying to unethically force your players into using it. I doubt these player rewards are going to be enough to buy even a single item from the Nex store forcing us to either sit looking at a 'reward' we cannot access, or to top up the amounts with plex. I am quite sure I am not the only person who wishes not to do so.
This smacks of forcing the playerbase into using the NEX store when they would otherwise have no interest.
Reward us in ISK, limited edition ships or anything else. Just not Aurum.
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Illwill Bill
For a fistful of Veldspar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:18:00 -
[55]
I was there when Eve was a subscription-based sandbox.
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Case Micoud
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:19:00 -
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Can you please start focusing on game contet and bug fixes? After the new forum fiasco, after the thunders before Incarna and all we got was this lousy room and after this Nexus store bs, somebody would think you would focus on something the players are going to really apreciate. Instead... you really get the feeling that you are completely out of synch with what is going on with Eve.
Please stop everything you are doing and start fixing 0.0, hybrids, capitals, sov system, lag, improve missions, add GM supervised events.....
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Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:23:00 -
[57]
YOU WHAT!
Disgusted . Tunbridge Wells CCP Shadow 24/06/2010 17:30:40: We do not have plans to go microtransaction with EVE. October 2010 CSM Virtual Goods unveiled
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Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:26:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Illwill Bill I was there when Eve was a subscription-based sandbox.
QFT
CCP Shadow 24/06/2010 17:30:40: We do not have plans to go microtransaction with EVE. October 2010 CSM Virtual Goods unveiled
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:28:00 -
[59]
I was there, looking at a door.
Originally by: CCP Zulu Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Hentes Zsemle
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:30:00 -
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It's sad that trailers like this, which features gallente ships couse they are very characteristic, will lure people in to try them and ending up disappointed.
ah yes...
FIX HYBRIDS
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DECEPTIBROW
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:31:00 -
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What a cheesy video. Just bad.
Eve is not real, it is a game btw. A game with developers that refuse to make content for the game we actually play, instead they make dress up barbie dolls and fluffy pve expansions and spacebooks.
This whole "Eve is real" marketing strategy is ******ed.
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Argus Kell
Gallente Lost Enterprises... SOLAR WING
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Brainless Bimbo Disgusted . Tunbridge Wells
Haha! I live near Tunbridge Wells so I totally get this.
Anyway, I thought the trailer was really cool. Really captured the right elements of Fleet Engagements (calm FCs and decent pilots, etc).
As for the scheme; I like that too. And to everyone saying "wah, it's making me use the NeX, I want free ships or ISK" - I think the idea is to give no non-vanity gain to players over a marketing campaign.
Argus
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Cashcow Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:36:00 -
[63]
I for one cannot wait to find out how much it's going to cost me to advertise Eve.
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Jamina Galandel
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:38:00 -
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I thought CCP wanted to post some dev blogs about the development that led to incarna in order to clarify a few things. Up until now I only see a PR campaign with a cheesy trailer.
Is it just me or does anyone else have the feeling that a big black edding marker is currently used furiously at CCP heardquarters that is keeping the valuable news from being posted?
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shoot me
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:38:00 -
[65]
CCP needs our help to market their broken game!
Marketing Eve based on how good it was in the past? Anyone trying the game will see what a mess it is currently in with little hope of improvement any time soon(tm).
Start focusing development on Eve and make it great again before wasting money marketing a what seems to be an abandoned game.
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Illwill Bill
For a fistful of Veldspar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:40:00 -
[66]
Sad that you didn't use in-game footage, though.
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Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:40:00 -
[67]
If we're gonna 'be real', how bout making the slogan a little more 'real':
EVE is a lie.
EVE is an 8-year long troll.
EVE is a cult.
EVE is a joke.
EVE is a sandbox. CCP is a 7-year old with ADD and a small bladder.
EVE is Jita and CCP are the scammers.
Griefing noobs is forbidden (unless you're CCP.)
EVE is a drug. CCP is a pusher.
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Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:44:00 -
[68]
Pssst, hey buddy, if you help me get your brother hooked on this stuff, your next hit is free! Whaddya say?
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Vladimir Ilych
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:44:00 -
[69]
I am happy to contribute something but you can keep the gold coins.
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Written Word
Written Word's Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:47:00 -
[70]
Why don't you focus on making your expansion something more than a poorly optimized sh*tty little room before you launch a marketing campaign? While current subscribers have already been desensitized with your :AWESOME: tag on every sh*tty and unfinished game play mechanics, none of your new customer base could look at Incarna in its current state and think it would add something to eve.
Also, easily your worst trailer ever. Terrible acting, incredibly cheesy and live action has no place in the trailers.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:47:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych I am happy to contribute something but you can keep the gold coins.
Really? Then give me!
Pool all AUR together, buy stuff in the store and sell it for ISK on the market.
I wouldn't mind some free stuff :-) If you are too picky, sure I'll take it! |
Mirei Jun
Right to Rule THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:51:00 -
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Marketing campaigns and propaganda are part of any corporate environment -it cannot be helped. However when management actually starts believing their own bull**** there is a serious problem.
Aside from the fact that this video has terrible dialogue, it promotes an idea that people who play Eve are shallow and lack any kind of healthy perspective on reality.
How did this sort of absurdity make it past upper management? All of the recent issues in themselves are not a problem. What is a problem is the attitude of management, and corporate culture they suggest.
Eve is a game. Play it. Have fun. Meet friends. Use it as an outlet to experiment and try new ideas that would be difficult in real life. Take this knowledge with you as a person. Got a marketing campaign for that?
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Charles Javeroux
Gallente INTERSTELLAR CREDIT
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:51:00 -
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Great trailer CCP does have skilz in that area.
...and to all whiners, drama season is over . Stop whining and start making history.
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Benjamin Hamburg
Gallente Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:53:00 -
[74]
Well, I really take this move like a good news! You recongnize the importance of players for EVE and this way of doing marketing will really help people to understand how real EVE could be for them as well :) |
Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:53:00 -
[75]
Why did these noobs fly 200km into enemy gunfire when they could have simple set probes on grid and insta warped into the snipe fleet since snipe fleets are now 100% useless thanks to nerfing unscannable setups? ~~~
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Tesla Grass
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:53:00 -
[76]
SICK trailer, too bad i couldnt play it in HD and use CQ :p
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Reilly Duvolle
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:56:00 -
[77]
Once again CCP comes up with a totally awesome idea, while failing hard at timing and communication. If this had come up directly after the fanfest, were Hilmar asked the community for help, it would have totally taken off. If you had introduced this AFTER you had shown you had actually listened to your players and DONE something about it, it would have totally taken off.
Instead, you have Zulu call the biggest Rumble in EVE history "just a bit of noise", and then you launch a marketing capmaign which depends on player input at a time where a majority of the veterans in this game still regards CCP as "on probation".
:facepalm:
I might be wrong. In fact, I truly deeply hope I am wrong. But sadly, I dont think I am wrong.
Good luck with this one CCP. You are gonna need it.
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Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:56:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Illwill Bill I was there when Eve was a subscription-based sandbox.
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dgastuffz
Caldari Hell's Revenge
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:56:00 -
[79]
i was there lol incarna and pvp did i missed something thats a false trailer
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Hikari Kasenumi
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:58:00 -
[80]
Why not offer free graphics cards and PCs for the worst still images and movies... :p
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Adrie Atticus
Mining and Industrial Services The Irukandji
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:59:00 -
[81]
http://trial.eveonline.com/en/eveisreal.aspx
PLAYIN IS BELIEV TRY E F
START YOUR REALI BUY NOW
How much AURUM for complete words?
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Bubba Coronet
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:00:00 -
[82]
EVE is real...
...-ly trying desperately to hook up new accounts before Planetside 2 arrives and steals a chunk of their present and potential playerbase.
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Malady Jane
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:03:00 -
[83]
I clothed my character with money I could have clothed two children with. #EVEisReal
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Meridan Night
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:03:00 -
[84]
I think it's a really cool way to go about this. EVE is real. I agree 100%. It's not just a game. Whenever I try to explain some aspect of the game to my friends that don't play it I always end up comparing how close to real life this thing really is. It's an amazing thing you've created, a work of art.
So keep it up guys. And can't wait to see the site.
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Henry Haphorn
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:03:00 -
[85]
I got a few works I like to contribute. This looks like something I can be happy to join. After all, my digital art drawing skills have improved quite a bit.
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Mechanoid Kryten
Humble Origins Red Dwarf Racketeering Division
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:06:00 -
[86]
Eve was real. Some ppl play golf with their boss. I recruited him into eve. Now my 3rd party app runs on his server. I envied senior devs at work who played with code in their spare time cuz I never had anything that seemed woth coding just for myself. A refining mfg calculator for my former corp solved that. I code after work and get better at work cuz of eve. But eve is real cuz of play driven sandox. Not ccp driven content. Ccp remember... eve was real. Plz keep it that way.
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Akiriy Azuriko
Gallente Demon Theory Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:13:00 -
[87]
i love this, this makes me feel like a part of eve, this is why i play eve in the early mornings, struggling to be a part of something bigger.
Hahaha Originally by: CCP CCP Hekatonkheires If you live in Australia, you're not likely to be able to participate - your laws are real damn hard. We promise to do a contest just for Australia at some point though, because their laws are just that damn hard.blog!
Hahaha **** Australia she is a cruel *****.
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Zeta Kalin
Large Rodent Hunters
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:16:00 -
[88]
Ludicrous, Gallente isn't playable. Hey CCP, balance is overrated in a MMORPG right? -- I do have a few expensive suits. However I'm pretty sure none is more expensive than an aircraft carrier.
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Kallynda Nai
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:17:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Lady Spank Reward us in ISK, limited edition ships or anything else. Just not Aurum.
Receive Aurum, buy clothes (or whatever), sell clothes on the market for ISK. Space rich people will get their clothes without paying $IRL, people not interested in barbie's dress-up get their isk, CCP gets good press. Not seeing a problem here.
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Utremi Fasolasi
Gallente The Jagged Edge Disciples of Crom
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:19:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Written Word Why don't you focus on making your expansion something more than a poorly optimized sh*tty little room before you launch a marketing campaign? While current subscribers have already been desensitized with your :AWESOME: tag on every sh*tty and unfinished game play mechanics, none of your new customer base could look at Incarna in its current state and think it would add something to eve.
New players won't know anything different about adding or not adding, for them, CQ is what it is and how it's always been.
And beyond the CQ, the rest of EVE is full of all the same potential it has always had. EVE is what you make it. It's what WE make it.
What are you, some kind of welfare leech looking for content handouts from the Man CCP?
"Dare to be bold, Pilot! Forge your own path to greatness!"
I love this trailer. Gallente are the heroes (of course) and the actor is a hazel eyed young Mediterranean dream of a man. And the end cut to the hangar made me weepy. FORK YES. What more could anyone want? |
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:24:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Kallynda Nai
Originally by: Lady Spank Reward us in ISK, limited edition ships or anything else. Just not Aurum.
Receive Aurum, buy clothes (or whatever), sell clothes on the market for ISK. Space rich people will get their clothes without paying $IRL, people not interested in barbie's dress-up get their isk, CCP gets good press. Not seeing a problem here.
How much aurum do you think they are going to give us? Thanks for the selective quote this completely ignores those of us that do not wish to take part in supporting MT in a subscription game. ~~~
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Illadelph Justice
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:25:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Malady Jane I clothed my character with money I could have clothed two children with. #EVEisReal
Imaginary PLUS REP ---
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Big Penos Burdette
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:26:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Lady Spank I understand how marketing works and you are being fairly transparent here about exploiting your player base.
On a basic level, the idea of using player experiences to promote your game is a fine one. I can think of many personal anecdotes which could be used in such a campaign. There is of course the issue of your definition of a 'reward'.
Unless you can transfer Aurum back to ISK then these token amounts of Aurum rewarded to players is utterly useless for those of us who wish to have nothing to do with the MT store. I can live with it's existence in game, mainly since there isn't exactly a lot of choice, but up until this suggestion it has been something I can ignore.
Now you are trying to unethically force your players into using it. I doubt these player rewards are going to be enough to buy even a single item from the Nex store forcing us to either sit looking at a 'reward' we cannot access, or to top up the amounts with plex. I am quite sure I am not the only person who wishes not to do so.
This smacks of forcing the playerbase into using the NEX store when they would otherwise have no interest.
Reward us in ISK, limited edition ships or anything else. Just not Aurum.
QFT
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de votso
Caldari Black Sun.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:27:00 -
[94]
pretty cheesy tbh
Hire supertwinky or garmon for the script writing/voices next time
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Starkiller Adams
Gallente Interwebs Cooter Explosion Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:27:00 -
[95]
When can we expect the influx of botters and RMTers oppps i mean Japanese
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Gregor Tagent
Gallente N7 Corporation Project Unconquerable
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:29:00 -
[96]
so, what can i say, cool trailer, did the same thing for me as the dominion trailer did, now i wanna try a couple things so, yeah, i'll give a go just cause i got a couple stories to tell Ilder Spacewalker: listen to greg he's right about this, greg i never thought i'd say this in a public forum |
StuRyan
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:29:00 -
[97]
NEAT VID
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Fractal Muse
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:31:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Steve Thomas
and hopeing that we stop making vidoes like Jita Riots, the Mineing Vidio that bascialy features a mining ship. . .mining. . . enlessly . . . mining. . .. untill it suicides in boredom and Fearless Follys that features Vidio clips of CCPs staffers who are, well, Drunk or hungover at CCP events
... I was there.
These sound like valid videos to submit. They are, after all, part of the EVE experience for some people. I rather like the idea of the suicide ending the mining video with the caption, "I was there."
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Zelphinine
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:36:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Zelphinine on 07/07/2011 18:36:21 Given my experience with an IRL friend who's currently on a trial account (he joined EVE when he saw the CQ; he's a big roleplayer and basically describes himself as 'the kind of player that CCP is trying to attract', he's been following the whole Hilmar/Zulu debacle since it blew up about a day after I sent him the invite, reading the forums, etc - actually interested in carrying on), you're still not going to get new subs.
Why?
Because NEW PLAYERS STILL SUCK. Not in the sense that they're awful people or anything, but in the sense that their chars can't do ****. All this 'EVE is Real' marketing BS won't change the fundamental fact that unless there's some way for new subs to get to the point where they can meaningfully contribute to things like FW, nullsec, etc without too much pain (iow not having to spend half a year training skills, yadda yadda) people are still gonna ditch the game before their trial runs out. Just like my friend. And he wants to like EVE. He wants to do things like run FW, go into nullsec, found corps with like-minded people, etc.
But he doesn't want to wait six months to be able to do any of that ****.
In his words 'you're not going to get many new players when most of them will have to spend the first few months of their game time logging on to change skills'.
You need more steak if you want new subs CCP. Not just sizzle.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:40:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Zelphinine you're still not going to get new subs.
Why?
Because NEW PLAYERS STILL SUCK. Not in the sense that they're awful people or anything, but in the sense that their chars can't do ****.
But he doesn't want to wait six months to be able to do any of that ****.
The dude in the video was an inty pilot. You can start tackling for a fleet as soon as you can fit a point and mwd to a frig. An interceptor (like the Taranis the guy was flying in the vid) doesn't much longer to skill for.
~~~
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Tub Chil
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:40:00 -
[101]
I was there in a fleet of blsterboats
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Newbie Ned
Minmatar Real Nice And Laidback Corporation
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:42:00 -
[102]
/rant on.
It seems that about half of the people on this thread are just spoilt little children. CCP are doing some stuff. If you don't like it, just ignore it and it will make absolutely no difference to you, you can get on with playing Eve exactly as you do now or even RL. But no. Instead you have to come on and whine about the same old thing over and over. If you don't want to participate in the marketing just don't. If you don't want to buy a virtual monocle then don't. I don't care, but for the love of god will you STFU with the same old whiney rants, it's getting really boring. Surely you can't all be 13? If you care that much stop paying and Eve will be a better place.
/rant off
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:43:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Kyoko Sakoda on 07/07/2011 18:44:22
This is such an awesome marketing concept that my mind exploded and I couldn't follow the class I attended after I read about it on my phone.
There's nothing too "new" about the idea in the context of social media marketing except that I think the scope of the EVE community will push it to the heights that CCP wants it to. I've seen other projects like this fall flat on their face because the community wasn't driven. The Aurum incentive is a really nice touch in this regard.
Yet to see the video but expecting greatness, etc.
edit: As a designer I don't agree with the positioning of the EVE Online logo on the site (at least relative to the borders of the screenshot) but that's just me. v0v
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Utremi Fasolasi
Gallente The Jagged Edge Disciples of Crom
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:47:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Charles Javeroux Stop whining and start making history.
+1 |
Written Word
Written Word's Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:48:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Utremi Fasolasi
New players won't know anything different about adding or not adding, for them, CQ is what it is and how it's always been.
And beyond the CQ, the rest of EVE is full of all the same potential it has always had. EVE is what you make it. It's what WE make it.
What are you, some kind of welfare leech looking for content handouts from the Man CCP?
Marketing a guy or girl trapped in the same closet as everybody else as a "reality simulator" is stupid. I don't think its too much of a stretch to ask for something used to sell MMOs to contain at least one social/multiplayer aspect to it.
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Zelphinine
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:49:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Zelphinine on 07/07/2011 18:49:58
Originally by: Lady Spank The dude in the video was an inty pilot. You can start tackling for a fleet as soon as you can fit a point and mwd to a frig. An interceptor (like the Taranis the guy was flying in the vid) doesn't much longer to skill for.
I'm well aware of that. That doesn't change the perception however.
Plus pretty much every nullsec corp out there wants like 10+ million SP. I don't know about FW but he was certainly discouraged by how everyone was (apparently) running around in HACs and the like.
And I did tell him that nominally you could run tackle in PVP very quickly. That doesn't solve the 'You Suck' problem though. Like it or not, EVE is extremely unforgiving to new subs, both in perception and in reality.
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Kallynda Nai
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:53:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Kallynda Nai
Originally by: Lady Spank Reward us in ISK, limited edition ships or anything else. Just not Aurum.
Receive Aurum, buy clothes (or whatever), sell clothes on the market for ISK. Space rich people will get their clothes without paying $IRL, people not interested in barbie's dress-up get their isk, CCP gets good press. Not seeing a problem here.
How much aurum do you think they are going to give us? Thanks for the selective quote this completely ignores those of us that do not wish to take part in supporting MT in a subscription game.
The rest of the post wasn't really worth quoting. No one's holding a gun to your head to make promo videos.
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Kallynda Nai
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:55:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Zelphinine Edited by: Zelphinine on 07/07/2011 18:37:23 Because NEW PLAYERS STILL SUCK. Not in the sense that they're awful people or anything, but in the sense that their chars can't do ****. All this 'EVE is Real' marketing BS won't change the fundamental fact that unless there's some way for new subs to get to the point where they can meaningfully contribute to things like FW, nullsec, etc without too much pain (IOW not having to spend half a year training skills, yadda yadda) or a solid set of PVE content for people to entertain themselves with while skilling for effective PVP, people are still gonna ditch the game before their trial runs out. Just like my friend. And he wants to like EVE. He wants to do things like run FW, go into nullsec, found corps with like-minded people, etc.
The entire history and premise of Goonswarm disagrees with you.
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:01:00 -
[109]
So you want a website where the PLAYERS themselves get to state what EVE really is and how things really go on about?
Well.. its a daring project.. but i wouldnt call a smart move by any stretch of the expression..
It will become a museum of the games biggest BUGS and greatest failures.
You don't even need to trust me on that, just go ahead with the idea and see for yourselves =) ____________
Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
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Utremi Fasolasi
Gallente The Jagged Edge Disciples of Crom
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:02:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Written Word Marketing a guy or girl trapped in the same closet as everybody else as a "reality simulator" is stupid.
It worked for Brokeback Mountain, not to mention Glee.. |
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BubbaGump ShrimpCo
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:04:00 -
[111]
I applaud this kind of effort. It's a great idea. The production quality of the video is, as usual, fantastic, but the script is a bit too cheesy. We players may sometimes talk with that kind of enthusiasm, but when the wording is so unrealistically bland, it comes across as artificial and cheesy. It's a bit over-generalized. Better to make it more personal and let in a little more game-jargon. People who are apt to play EVE are going to be able to read between the lines and won't be put off by a bit of mystery.
To you guys who are whining about the game: shut up. No one cares to hear your endless game-related complaints in this thread. Our whining belongs elsewhere. Like everyone else, I've got plenty of issues with EVE and CCP, but I still play because, on balance, it's still a great game. You're here for the same reason. The community is the best (and sometimes the worst) feature of the game. Expanding the player base is good for everyone. New players drawn in by the depth and quality of the community are the kind we want and this type of campaign is a great way get them.
It's not about mining or blasters or ships or stations. It's not about ISK or Aurum. It's about players. It's Corporations, Alliances, Interaction, Teamwork, Griefing, Scamming, Sweet Sweet Tears, Betrayal and Trust. That's what makes EVE "real". Lets get some more of that going.
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Valetta Vasquez
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:05:00 -
[112]
I loved the trailer and the vast majority do to (the Likes/Dislikes on the vid).
As for the 'Eve is Real' thing, I love it too. Someone commented on that vid: Quote: No other MMO, or game, has made my heart race.
That couldn't be closer to the truth, for me anyway. Regardless of what people say here, we will always need new players, or else Eve will stagnate. This marketing approach seems like a good way to go about it.
Keep up the great work and doing what you're doing. People may throw a lot of hate your way on the forums, but they are a small fraction of the entire player base. Its just unfortunate that angry and displeased people make a lot more noise than happy and content ones.
You've got my sub until the end... |
Khamelean
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:09:00 -
[113]
The memories, experiences and emotions you get from a video game are just as real as from any other source. Eve is real. Spread the word!
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Emilya Tatsuki
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:15:00 -
[114]
Originally by: lisaaa Does this mean that they will fix Gallente ?! :O
THE APOCALYPSE IS COMING!!
That's usually a bad sign if you are Gallente
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MissyDark
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:23:00 -
[115]
It might have worked back in the days when players still loved you. But now you are SOE #2 and I doubt you will get any positive response.
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Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:23:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Newbie Ned If you care that much stop paying and Eve will be a better place.
Can't disagree with you there.
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Zendoren
Gallente Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:24:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Zendoren on 07/07/2011 19:25:28
Originally by: Lady Spank I understand how marketing works and you are being fairly transparent here about exploiting your player base.
On a basic level, the idea of using player experiences to promote your game is a fine one. I can think of many personal anecdotes which could be used in such a campaign. There is of course the issue of your definition of a 'reward'.
Unless you can transfer Aurum back to ISK then these token amounts of Aurum rewarded to players is utterly useless for those of us who wish to have nothing to do with the MT store. I can live with it's existence in game, mainly since there isn't exactly a lot of choice, but up until this suggestion it has been something I can ignore.
Now you are trying to unethically force your players into using it. I doubt these player rewards are going to be enough to buy even a single item from the Nex store forcing us to either sit looking at a 'reward' we cannot access, or to top up the amounts with plex. I am quite sure I am not the only person who wishes not to do so.
This smacks of forcing the playerbase into using the NEX store when they would otherwise have no interest.
Reward us in ISK, limited edition ships or anything else. Just not Aurum.
You lost me at the underlined part.
If CCP wants to reward players with MT monies then don't participate if you don't want to support MT. Simple as that.
Personally I don't see any reason to demoralize the Devs any further than they already are. Just when they were hoping to be praised by the player base for months of hard work on thousands of lines of code, They got hit in the gut with the massage that MT is bad M'kay. Which was all managements fault for lack of messaging to the community.
For better or for worse, the Devs are the gate keepers of this game (not the owners IMHO) and I think they need a simple thank you right now.
As for CCP upper management, I think they need a swift kick in the balls!!!
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Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:28:00 -
[118]
The bots are real.
The dev alts are real.
The bugs are real.
The lies are real.
The broken promises are real.
The contempt is real.
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Edgar Loke
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:29:00 -
[119]
What kinda jump was that? The interceptor runs in and acts as some kinda beacon so the fleet can short jump into range?
Just trying to understand the mechanics of that fight there. It all made sense up until everyone suddenly could warp up like that.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:32:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Kyoko Sakoda on 07/07/2011 19:35:24
Warning, film student rant about a video game trailer ahead:
Great concept, but lacking in the force of execution. I'm sure the storyboard for this looked great, but the narrative did not come across forcefully enough to make the viewer care in the first 15-30 seconds. Referential, denotative concepts at the beginning of the trailer are too strong for the uninitiated (with EVE) to understand. It literally needs to be said "here's what we built, here's the stake," but that's glossed over.
You can laugh at me when my next video comes out in August because it certainly does not follow this principle, but an official trailer -- a tool for marketing -- absolutely needs to command attention.
Acting was overdone, but I can't fault the guy or even the person who directed him. This is the first time CCP has flirted with live actors, after all. One of the problems was that his emotional direction in telling the story was very disconnected with the visual storytelling, which was quite bland in the first 30 seconds. As such, it didn't feel like it got better aligned with the FiS bits until further into the video, even though it technically did align better during the battle. Rhythm of the crosscutting (technically montage) was perfect, but CCP has always been good at that.
If this is a story about the triangular player-character-event connection, the process by which those relationships were made was too direct. This is just a feeling I have. Obviously a capsuleer in lore cannot "feel [their] hands shaking" in battle, because they are their ship. That slight misdirection isn't what I'm talking about. It's more that the heart-thumping that occurs in PvP has to do with a sense of potential loss which wasn't communicated very well in the first place.
Good first step, but could use lots of refinement in the future. I loved the fact that this was apparently based on a real story (but then again it could be one of hundreds of similar Warp To stories). That should have been stated at the beginning of the video for more impact.
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Callic Veratar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:34:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Edgar Loke What kinda jump was that? The interceptor runs in and acts as some kinda beacon so the fleet can short jump into range?
Just trying to understand the mechanics of that fight there. It all made sense up until everyone suddenly could warp up like that.
You can warp to anyone in your fleet that's more than 150km away.
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Just Jo
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:35:00 -
[122]
When are you going to fix the game?
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Nerodon
Gallente Incapsulated Reality
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:35:00 -
[123]
See? That's how you use gallente ships, warp in point blank range! Blasters rule!
How dare anyone say that hybrids need balance! Learn to use them first!
(Actually, they do need a little more love, but it's hardly as bad as people are claiming it to be.)
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Zendoren
Gallente Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:35:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Zendoren on 07/07/2011 19:35:35
Originally by: Edgar Loke What kinda jump was that? The interceptor runs in and acts as some kinda beacon so the fleet can short jump into range?
Just trying to understand the mechanics of that fight there. It all made sense up until everyone suddenly could warp up like that.
The FC told the fleet to burn away from the incoming fleet to open the distance so that they can warp to the fleet member (an interceptor) once he is close enough. Correct me if I'm wrong with the number; however, you can not warp to anything (fleet member included) if they are within 150km. By opining the distance and sending in the interceptors and warping to them, the FC allowed his fleet members to use their guns at their optimal.
This is a mid level tactic that FC's use when in fleet battles. ^_^ One image per signature please. Zymurgist |
Rasz Lin
Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:37:00 -
[125]
hmmm how about NO
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Wilhelm Riley
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:41:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Zendoren
The FC told the fleet to burn away from the incoming fleet to open the distance so that they can warp to the fleet member (an interceptor) once he is close enough. Correct me if I'm wrong with the number; however, you can not warp to anything (fleet member included) if they are within 150km. By opining the distance and sending in the interceptors and warping to them, the FC allowed his fleet members to use their guns at their optimal.
This is a mid level tactic that FC's use when in fleet battles. ^_^
That's why I enjoy watching EVE trailers so much, aside from a few cinematic liberties everything that you see in them can be done in game.
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Kabaos
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:42:00 -
[127]
Hi CCP . I see movie TRON impresse you =)
Tron 3 here
I know all !!
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:42:00 -
[128]
Great video and I'll see what I can do when I come back from holiday.
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DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:43:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Zevas Possibly the worst trailer yet.
That was soooo cheesy.
Sci-Fi isn't Sci-Fi without at least one extremely cheesy trailer/video.
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:43:00 -
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i don't want to think about "eve is real" anymore after you used this idea to explain the price of the virtual clothes.
and btw worst trailer ever. they are often pretty good, but this one, no. even worse when you understand at the end it's an ad for the CQ... with only one frame of the CQ on it...
if this is what the CSMs saw and liked, then i don't have the same tastes at all.
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E man Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:45:00 -
[131]
Wow what a bunch of whiners.
Great video, enjoyed it. Think it will apeal to your target audence. I know I posted it around for people to view.
New players are a good thing.
Also within 2 days you can be in a tackle ship MWD fit and a point and do everry thing in the video, within a few weeks you can be in an inti...you complainers actually ever play this game? ______ Hello WoW players. Look at your toon, now back to me. Sadly it isn't me, but if it wasn't simplistic pre scripted linear mono dimensional game you could look like me. I'm in a Paladin |
Lucia Ferragano
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:46:00 -
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Three years of EVE are 365*30/30*3=2895 euros. At least 50 000 unique players in game. 144 millions euros. Stop whining about CCP's Upper management. Let's buy CCP.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Zendoren Edited by: Zendoren on 07/07/2011 19:25:28
Originally by: Lady Spank I understand how marketing works and you are being fairly transparent here about exploiting your player base.
On a basic level, the idea of using player experiences to promote your game is a fine one. I can think of many personal anecdotes which could be used in such a campaign. There is of course the issue of your definition of a 'reward'.
Unless you can transfer Aurum back to ISK then these token amounts of Aurum rewarded to players is utterly useless for those of us who wish to have nothing to do with the MT store. I can live with it's existence in game, mainly since there isn't exactly a lot of choice, but up until this suggestion it has been something I can ignore.
Now you are trying to unethically force your players into using it. I doubt these player rewards are going to be enough to buy even a single item from the Nex store forcing us to either sit looking at a 'reward' we cannot access, or to top up the amounts with plex. I am quite sure I am not the only person who wishes not to do so.
This smacks of forcing the playerbase into using the NEX store when they would otherwise have no interest.
Reward us in ISK, limited edition ships or anything else. Just not Aurum.
You lost me at the underlined part.
If CCP wants to reward players with MT monies then don't participate if you don't want to support MT. Simple as that.
Personally I don't see any reason to demoralize the Devs any further than they already are. Just when they were hoping to be praised by the player base for months of hard work on thousands of lines of code, They got hit in the gut with the massage that MT is bad M'kay. Which was all managements fault for lack of messaging to the community.
For better or for worse, the Devs are the gate keepers of this game (not the owners IMHO) and I think they need a simple thank you right now.
As for CCP upper management, I think they need a swift kick in the balls!!!
It's hard NOT to participate when they are going to force Aurum on me because of others actions.
I'm not RAGING and being unreasonable, just putting my point across calmly. I'd hardly say it's a kick in the balls to the devs, and you know fine well it's the Marketing / Upper management behind this promotion and not the devs.
I'm quite happy with eve, I'm not unsubbing, I'm not off on some attempt to make a threadnaught about it. I just have a low opinion of these underhand techniques used to hook people on the Nex store. The underlined bit relates to typical psychological advertising where people may feel they are being rewarded when they are actually being pushed to use a service they might otherwise have no need for.
What do I need Aurum for if I can't do anything with it but have it as an annoyance on my wallet screen?
I won't say any more on this because I actually agree the last thing CCP needs right now is more raging negativity. I don't expect everyone to agree but I don't like their 'reward' method offered here.
I know I don't have to use whatever Aurum ends up on my accounts and I will simply ignore it; I just wished to put my veiw across that it smacks of dirty business tricks. Considering the recent 'greed is good' leak, even if it IS just an internal hypothetical debate tool, putting out sly gimmicks like this so soon after is surprising. Care about it or not, don't expect everyone to be so passively coerced.
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a newbie
d o o m
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: a newbie on 07/07/2011 20:07:20 Ok, the I hope the trolls go torch themselves because this is a great idea. Just hope this doesn't impede me while I am at work. ;)
Sly Gimmicks? What about something so simple as a means to provide a living history of an entire e-civilization?
If its going to come down to semantics, I can say water is as bad as Vitoc. I NEED to have it to live but maybe I don't want it?
Point is, if you removed the FREE REWARD from this website, people would still complain about it. However more people are probably complaining because of the Aurum feature that if they don't use so what? EVERYONE is benefiting from this.
Have a problem with it? Can I has your Aurum/ISK?
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Nerodon
Gallente Incapsulated Reality
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:09:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Zendoren Edited by: Zendoren on 07/07/2011 19:25:28
Originally by: Lady Spank I understand how marketing works and you are being fairly transparent here about exploiting your player base.
On a basic level, the idea of using player experiences to promote your game is a fine one. I can think of many personal anecdotes which could be used in such a campaign. There is of course the issue of your definition of a 'reward'.
Unless you can transfer Aurum back to ISK then these token amounts of Aurum rewarded to players is utterly useless for those of us who wish to have nothing to do with the MT store. I can live with it's existence in game, mainly since there isn't exactly a lot of choice, but up until this suggestion it has been something I can ignore.
Now you are trying to unethically force your players into using it. I doubt these player rewards are going to be enough to buy even a single item from the Nex store forcing us to either sit looking at a 'reward' we cannot access, or to top up the amounts with plex. I am quite sure I am not the only person who wishes not to do so.
This smacks of forcing the playerbase into using the NEX store when they would otherwise have no interest.
Reward us in ISK, limited edition ships or anything else. Just not Aurum.
You lost me at the underlined part.
If CCP wants to reward players with MT monies then don't participate if you don't want to support MT. Simple as that.
Personally I don't see any reason to demoralize the Devs any further than they already are. Just when they were hoping to be praised by the player base for months of hard work on thousands of lines of code, They got hit in the gut with the massage that MT is bad M'kay. Which was all managements fault for lack of messaging to the community.
For better or for worse, the Devs are the gate keepers of this game (not the owners IMHO) and I think they need a simple thank you right now.
As for CCP upper management, I think they need a swift kick in the balls!!!
It's hard NOT to participate when they are going to force Aurum on me because of others actions.
I'm not RAGING and being unreasonable, just putting my point across calmly. I'd hardly say it's a kick in the balls to the devs, and you know fine well it's the Marketing / Upper management behind this promotion and not the devs.
I'm quite happy with eve, I'm not unsubbing, I'm not off on some attempt to make a threadnaught about it. I just have a low opinion of these underhand techniques used to hook people on the Nex store. The underlined bit relates to typical psychological advertising where people may feel they are being rewarded when they are actually being pushed to use a service they might otherwise have no need for.
What do I need Aurum for if I can't do anything with it but have it as an annoyance on my wallet screen?
I won't say any more on this because I actually agree the last thing CCP needs right now is more raging negativity. I don't expect everyone to agree but I don't like their 'reward' method offered here.
I know I don't have to use whatever Aurum ends up on my accounts and I will simply ignore it; I just wished to put my veiw across that it smacks of dirty business tricks. Considering the recent 'greed is good' leak, even if it IS just an internal hypothetical debate tool, putting out sly gimmicks like this so soon after is surprising. Care about it or not, don't expect everyone to be so passively coerced.
You do know that AUR will eventually be tradable for ISK I hope. The reason why its not just yet is to mitigate market influence until Aurum has been around for a sufficient amount of time.
If I have AUR on me, I'll just wait and trade it off later, nothing wrong with that. Hell if you get enough AUR, buy a shirt and sell it for ISK. In the end, It's not just a gimmick forcing you to personally indulge in the NeX and it IS a reward anyone can use.
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Elsa Nietchize
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:16:00 -
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Don't worry CCP, the pubbies in hisec are all over this. They'll post all their awesome mining ops and mission running escapades. However, their stories do not sell your game. It's the stories of the 0.0 folk that bring in new players. It's those stories that brought me to Eve. Guess who you've ****ed off? Guess who you're always ****ing off? Their stories will continue, but not on your silly 'sell our game' site. I'd say someday you'd get the hint and start fixing some of the problems but from what I've seen you just frankly don't care. It's like you're some ADD kid who can't stay focused on one thing for more than 6 months (expansion cycle). You don't care that things are broke cause you already have our money. As long as this is the case, the people who live the stories you sell will always be ****ed off.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: a newbie Sly Gimmicks? What about something so simple as a means to provide a living history of an entire e-civilization?
If you bothered to read what I wrote in the second paragraph of my first post you would see that I think the promotion itself is a solid one. I just think it's a poor 'reward', and I acknowledge that they plan to make it tradeable 'soon'.
At any rate I hope for some interesting content from the community. The single shard shared experience really makes the events in-game worthwhile where on other games it's meaningless.
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Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Argus Kell
Originally by: Brainless Bimbo Disgusted . Tunbridge Wells
Haha! I live near Tunbridge Wells so I totally get this.
Argus
Haha! I work in Tunbridge Wells! *\o/* o7 *\o/* Anyway, moving swiftly on...
Until we can walk freely around space stations, this marketing campaign looks premature - Eve isn't quite real enough yet.
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Lucia Ferragano
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Elsa Nietchize you already have our money. (...) the people [..]will always be ****ed off.
Stop whining and invest in CCP then. That's the difference between shareholder and client, one has a legal right to complain, the other has the legal right to stop buying :D
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Wilhelm Riley
Originally by: Zendoren
The FC told the fleet to burn away from the incoming fleet to open the distance so that they can warp to the fleet member (an interceptor) once he is close enough. Correct me if I'm wrong with the number; however, you can not warp to anything (fleet member included) if they are within 150km. By opining the distance and sending in the interceptors and warping to them, the FC allowed his fleet members to use their guns at their optimal.
This is a mid level tactic that FC's use when in fleet battles. ^_^
That's why I enjoy watching EVE trailers so much, aside from a few cinematic liberties everything that you see in them can be done in game.
While I did like the trailer, if you think you could do anything remotely like that ingame I got some bad news for you. It is impossible on so many levels it isnt funny.
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Throatslitter
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:40:00 -
[141]
Anyone know why Australia is getting the short end of the stick, again?
Seems unfair, no EVE advertizing here, ever, no boxsets available, and now excluded from competitions.
Other than that, sounds a good idea, I hope it pays off.
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Cashcow Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Cashcow Golden Goose on 07/07/2011 20:44:45 Pray tell, what other useless **** are you working on that isn't anything to do with space ships?
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Halgirsand Verneraal
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Throatslitter Anyone know why Australia is getting the short end of the stick, again?
Seems unfair, no EVE advertizing here, ever, no boxsets available, and now excluded from competitions.
Other than that, sounds a good idea, I hope it pays off.
Easy: CCP is afraid that a land of deported crooks might turn out to outwit them ;)
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Halgirsand Verneraal
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Throatslitter Anyone knows why we aren't getting any botsex...
Mine them roids!
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Zagdul
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:51:00 -
[145]
Everyone vote for Chribba and Wollari
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DeadlyThreat
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:58:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Throatslitter Anyone know why Australia is getting the short end of the stick, again?
Seems unfair, no EVE advertizing here, ever, no boxsets available, and now excluded from competitions.
Other than that, sounds a good idea, I hope it pays off.
Because Australia's contest laws are horrid.
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
Now you are trying to unethically force your players into using it. I doubt these player rewards are going to be enough to buy even a single item from the Nex store forcing us to either sit looking at a 'reward' we cannot access, or to top up the amounts with plex. I am quite sure I am not the only person who wishes not to do so.
This smacks of forcing the playerbase into using the NEX store when they would otherwise have no interest.
Reward us in ISK, limited edition ships or anything else. Just not Aurum.
Good lord...grow up a bit. Forcing? Forcing!? Do you even know the definition of the word? I wish someone would stop "forcing" you to subscribe and post on the forums...the forums could use a lot less of you and your inanity. ~Gnosis~ |
Zibathy
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:04:00 -
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To those of you guys who are complaining about EvE not being... 'actiony'... shut up. Go play CoD. Nobody cares. To me, this game is about making money. The only action is in 0 sec. Which is why I am making money to fit my ship to go to 0 sec and chill with a corp and make MORE money. This game doesn't bring you action and big battles. You have to go get them. So if you're saying 'BAWWW NO AKSHUN', get out of high sec you pansy carebear. Nobody cares about your opinion. There's nothing to do in high sec really, so what do you expect? High secs like the place little kids go to where you can't be tagged in a game of tag. You can't experience the 'game of tag', so to speak, without getting out of the 'safezone'. So shut up before I blow my brains out. God you guys are so annoying. Stop playing the game if it's so bad in your opinion. I surely won't miss you, I don't think anyone else will either.
tl;dr Read it.
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Velan Wolf
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:04:00 -
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Ok, come on CCP you can do better than this. I watched the video and they guy you had acting the part might as have been holding the script in his had. He had no emotional tie to what he was talking about. His acting made me want to laugh instead of feeling excited about eve. Put the guys who made the Dust video's in charge, they at least have a chance of making a good video.
Despite the nay sayers this community driven ad idea has potential if you do it right, but if you continue down this path producing poor quality content you might as well have not even put anything out at all.
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Zibathy
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:06:00 -
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Oh yeah, and if you guys read what I said and go 'wtf are you talking about?' I'm only talking to a few people I think, and I'm too lazy to quote them all. But yeah, someone said they're paying us in Aurum or something? I think it should be ISK or something. Something that you can actually BUY stuff with. Clothes are for the weak and feminine. :P
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Makko Gray
Nexus Aerospace Corporation
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:07:00 -
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Like the new trailer - very nice!
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Lucia Ferragano
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:16:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Zibathy Clothes are for the weak and feminine. :P
Unless you're in a pod, where you don't need them, I'd rather not walk around naked...
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Sheila Sarani
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:20:00 -
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I'm just a poor high/low sec "carebear" as hardcore pvpers call us so could someone explain to me few things in this video?
- why someone took gallente fleet to attack anything? why not amarr/minmatar? - why trap worked? no one noticed local spike? - why the traping forces didn't put bubles on gallente? - why amarr forces get at warpable range? - why gallente didn't warp out? - why interceptors wasn't destroyed by zealoths or other hac snipers on approach? - why no one created warpable bookmark with a little scanning? - why amarr fleet wasn't bubbled? - why amarr fleet didn't warp out?
I don't know much about pvp, other than what i read in forums so was those really goofs or is it real? |
Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:24:00 -
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I think CCP was scared to show a video of what Incarna actually is...... A 2 sec blip in the whole trailer.... Way to hide the truth from the people you are trying to get to sub.....The only function Incarna has for now is to give people access to a jail cell, a mirror and $1000 pants.....
I like having a history of Eve, however I 100% agree with Lady Spank... The reward is AUR??????? This is just an attempt to push the money store down peoples throats again........ If they have to look at their AUR balance they will buy... That mentallity sucks.... Matter of fact let me turn that AUR crap off so I don't have to look at it.....
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Shu'jiha Shiznae
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sheila Sarani I'm just a poor high/low sec "carebear" as hardcore pvpers call us so could someone explain to me few things in this video?
- why someone took gallente fleet to attack anything? why not amarr/minmatar? - why trap worked? no one noticed local spike? - why the traping forces didn't put bubles on gallente? - why amarr forces get at warpable range? - why gallente didn't warp out? - why interceptors wasn't destroyed by zealoths or other hac snipers on approach? - why no one created warpable bookmark with a little scanning? - why amarr fleet wasn't bubbled? - why amarr fleet didn't warp out?
I don't know much about pvp, other than what i read in forums so was those really goofs or is it real?
-could have been a RP Corp, yes there are some out there that take out certain race fleets -Even if they did notice local spike, BS's take almost forever to align -Maybe none of their bubble pilots were on? lol -they thought they could take out the gallente ships before they actually got together and retaliated -BS's take forever to align -they could have been focusing on the gallente BS's -who did you want to have a warpable BM? -the gallente interceptors were all over them -the gallente interceptors were all over them
idk this what i thought of, of each one of your comments lol
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Sheila Sarani
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Shu'jiha Shiznae idk this what i thought of, of each one of your comments lol
So fleets aren't prealigned just in case? Fleet fights are more like stationary slugfest?
I was takeing it as a given but in low sec carebearing being prealigned and at speed is rather recommended. |
Guillame Herschel
Gallente NME1
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:40:00 -
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Mater Dolorosa
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:42:00 -
[158]
CCP should give me 99$/month and I'll provide content...
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:43:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Sheila Sarani I'm just a poor high/low sec "carebear" as hardcore pvpers call us so could someone explain to me few things in this video?
- why someone took gallente fleet to attack anything? why not amarr/minmatar? - why trap worked? no one noticed local spike? - why the traping forces didn't put bubles on gallente? - why amarr forces get at warpable range? - why gallente didn't warp out? - why interceptors wasn't destroyed by zealoths or other hac snipers on approach? - why no one created warpable bookmark with a little scanning? - why amarr fleet wasn't bubbled? - why amarr fleet didn't warp out?
I don't know much about pvp, other than what i read in forums so was those really goofs or is it real?
To answer your question:
CCP never properly represents what the game actually is in any trailer..... I mean christ, this was an Incarna trailer and they gave a 2 second glance at CQ. They didn't give the tour of the jail cell. They didn't show off the $1000 pants. They didn't show a graphics card going Chernobyl....
Hell, the only thing they did show with that 2 second blip on the CQ is the average time before disabling it.....
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: DeftCrow Redriver Does the trailer mean local can get disabled and blasters are getting a buff in the future?
Time for a classic:
Blasters Are Awesome
-- "All your monies AUR belong to us." -- CCP |
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Kandreath
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: mkint Edited by: mkint on 07/07/2011 16:19:49 You know what's even more real? ... blah blah blah Whine Whine blah blah blah ...Seriously dude... buy a hooker.
Oh sorry I tuned out because you were whining, but what was that about a hooker - now I'm interested?
Seriously...Were going to have a whine on this thread too? ... I think this is very clever way of tapping into something at the centre of the game experience. We're being asked to describe some defining moments for us and the game. Even if you separate the advertising this will be a good documentation project.
My carebear playing style hasn't yielded many stories, but I'll be trying to figure out something.
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ninjutzu
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:10:00 -
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very very nice trailer
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Illectroculus Defined
No Bull Ships
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:19:00 -
[163]
Sure... the mechanics of the indicent are questionable but...
'I was there' made me think of the LCD Soundsystem 'Losing My Edge'
Bitter Vet Soundsystem - Losing My Edge
Yeah, I'm losing my edge. I'm losing my edge. The kids are coming up from behind. I'm losing my edge. I'm losing my edge to the kids from Russia and from London. But I was there.
I was there in 2003. I was there at the first Beta tests in my Reaper. I'm losing my edge. I'm losing my edge to the kids whose Rifters I see when they fly through lowsec. I'm losing my edge to the EFT warriors who can tell me the DPS of every good fit from frigates to caps.
I'm losing my edge. To all the gangs in Delve and Curse. I'm losing my edge to the low sec pirates in assault ships and borrowed nostalgia for nano cruisers.
But I'm losing my edge. I'm losing my edge, but I was there. I was there. But I was there.
I'm losing my edge. I'm losing my edge. I can see the Rifters every night in low-sec. But I was there.
I was there in 2004 in sniper fleets taking an outpost in Scalding Pass. I was leading a wing of Apocs with much patience. I was there when Sir Molle started up his first corp. I told him, "Don't be a carebear. You'll never make a dime." I was there. I was the first guy winning a Curse Blueprint from the lottery I gave it away. Everybody thought I was crazy.
We all know. I was there. I was there. I've never been wrong.
I used to work for CCP Games. I knew everything before anyone. I was there when Ascendant Frontier built their first outpost. I was there in the fleet that made the first Titan kill. I was podded by an NPC in 2004 before they fixed that bug.
But I'm losing my edge to younger, faster people with less baggage and more time. And they're actually really, really nice.
I'm losing my edge.
I heard you have a hangar with every item in the database, every limited edition ship, all the tournament ships, all the rare skillbooks. I hear you have a Revelation parked in a hi-sec trade hub. I heard that you have a container with every cosmos blueprint, and item. I heard that you have a state issue raven, and a box full of pieces from a Jovian.
I hear you're buying a New PC and Monitor and are throwing your Laptop out the window because you like the captains quarters. You want to buy a monocle.
I Hear that you and your gang have sold your Ishkurs and bought Daredevils. I hear that you and your band have sold your Daredevils and bought Ishkurs.
I hear everybody in your corp is more has more kills than everybody in my corp.
But have you seen my killboard? I've beat your Utu, Cerberus, Legions and Tengus. Moros, a Thorax, your Black Ops, Typhoon, some Drakes, Sacrilege, Maller and Omen. Sleipnir, Cormorant, Cheetah, Incursus, Deimos, Eos, a Navy Issue Raven, Blackbirds, Hel, Leviathan and Nagflar. Wolf, Reaper, Stilleto, Muninn, Orca, Enyo, Devoter, Iteron V, Retribution, Jaguar, Scimitar, Aeon, Nyx, Helios, Loki, Bhaalgorn,Ishkur, Brutix, Impel, Scythe Fleet Issue ("just hit me"!), one Thanatos, Daredevil, Heretic, Probe, Honor! Tanked! Dreadnought!, two Sins, Ferox, Manticore, Phoenix, Curse, Armageddon Navy Issue, Succubus, Cynabal, a Rifter, a Rifter, a Rifter, a Rifter, a Rifter.....
You don't know what you really want. <repeat To fade> Spaceships! |
Consortium Agent
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:26:00 -
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I have some nice pics of the assaults on Jita and Amarr. I'll add those. :P
All kidding aside tho... this is a 'meh' idea. It's also a shame it comes on the heels of some of the worst PR I've ever seen come out of your company. I predict your bright shiny new website will not really bring in the numbers you lost recently, much less attract many newcomers to Eve.
You guys have earned a bad rep lately, I'm afraid. And bad rep is hard to beat with just websites and marketing. It takes a real dedication to shoring up your internal issues and bringing on the content and, wait for it... game play, that will make people *want* to play Eve. Somehow the marketing folks have convinced the developer folks that they can sell ice to Eskimo's here - your problem is not now and never has been marketing. It's game play. It has and will always be game play. If you'd only fix what's broken, take your players suggestions for improving everything from mining to POS's (a revamp of the POS system into 'mini-stations' with WIS for corps would bring in *way* more players than your new website, Incarna, NeX, Monocles or anything else you have planned). How about NPCs and factional warfare and immersion in the storyline of Eve which the game has completely lost. Doing something with PI that doesn't make people dread its very existence, fix lowsec and nullsec, get rid of the bots, give us a better corporation management (eg roles management) system, make it easier for corporations to move out of empire, etc. etc. *THESE* are the things that will bring players to Eve. Not shiny websites of noobs showing themselves off in the game. Haha... there is so many eve online related images, blogs, stories and videos out on the interwebs now... what makes you think putting the ones you like all in one place is going to make you any more appealing to people who don't already play eve?
Besides, I have Chribba having to write a search site for it anyway ;P
Seriously, CCP... fix the game, improve the game play - build it right and they will come. Keep blowing money on stupid ideas like this instead of investing into the game play of Eve and they will not. It ain't rocket science (yada, yada, yada).
Just my 2 ISK. I'll certainly post some of the aforementioned assault pictures tho and see if they make it in. That is... when you have the site done. A bit early, no? Just prepping us to gather our best? lol
Meh.
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Matalino
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sheila Sarani - why no one created warpable bookmark with a little scanning?
The story might be based on a fight that took place before the current scanning mechanics made that a viable tactic. Under the old scanning mechanics, it might have been faster for an interceptor to cover the distance than it would have been to get a bookmark on the fleet.
Originally by: Sheila Sarani - why interceptors wasn't destroyed by zealoths or other hac snipers on approach?
As for this question, there were at least 6 interceptors shown in the clips around 0:20 - 0:30. It is not completely unreasonable to expect that 1 out of the 6 got lucky while the other 5 were wiped out. Again, if this fight was based older game mechanics, it would have been much easier to cover that distance prior to the great speed nerf.
Originally by: Sheila Sarani - why someone took gallente fleet to attack anything? why not amarr/minmatar?
Obviously the video was not made by taking fraps of an actual fight. With any reenactment it is reasonable for the producer to take some artistic liberties to improve clarity. In this case, it appears that the producer decided to clearify which ships belonged to each fleet by using the traditional racial alliances. The friendly fleet is Gallente + Minmatar and the enemy fleet is Amarr + Caldari. If both fleets had contained a realistic mix of ship types, it would be difficult for a viewer to identify which ships belonged to which fleet.
Originally by: Sheila Sarani - why the traping forces didn't put bubles on gallente? - why amarr forces get at warpable range? - why gallente didn't warp out? - why amarr fleet wasn't bubbled? - why amarr fleet didn't warp out?
This could also be attributed to artistic liberties. I did not see any effects other than turrets. To make the scenes less cluttered, the producer might have omited any buble or other tackling/ewar effects. In order to maintain a sense of drama, the produce would not be expected to show the ships that had successfully warped out. The friendly battleships might have been burning to get out of a buble as much as to get out of range. When the fleet warped to the interceptor, many of those ships could have been warping from safe spots. While not shown in the video, that fleet might have included Interdictors and/or HICs.
Originally by: Sheila Sarani I don't know much about pvp, other than what i read in forums so was those really goofs or is it real?
I don't know much about pvp either. These are just some possible explinations that I believe justify some of these discrepencies.
I miss the old trailers, where "All scenes in this trailer were captured from actual gameplay." This would have been the perfect opportunity to return to those roots. Hopefully we some trailers that are more along those lines as part of this marketing campain, either CCP or player generated.
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Havak Kouvo
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:36:00 -
[166]
No, no. nonononononono.
Before you do this, concentrate all that web programming effort on improving the Eve website, wiki, and Eve-Gate. Make them all look cleaner, more modern, and closer together. I like the general look of the new Account Manager website, but the main website is very lacking and i think that it is better than even Eve-Gate and the test forums. Fix those first, then go on a mass marketing campaign.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:40:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Havak Kouvo No, no. nonononononono.
Before you do this, concentrate all that web programming effort on improving the Eve website, wiki, and Eve-Gate. Make them all look cleaner, more modern, and closer together. I like the general look of the new Account Manager website, but the main website is very lacking and i think that it is better than even Eve-Gate and the test forums. Fix those first, then go on a mass marketing campaign.
Maybe they should just pay Chribba to do it.. Atleast then it would be done right and not half-arsed like everything else....
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Danny Centauri
Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:45:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Steve Thomas
Originally by: Myronik PLease CCP gather and share old concept arts of EVE and old login advertisements
they are bascialy trying to reward the people who have been putting up the good vids all this time.
and trying to get the comunity to make more.
and hopeing that we stop making vidoes like Jita Riots, the Mineing Vidio that bascialy features a mining ship. . .mining. . . enlessly . . . mining. . .. untill it suicides in boredom and Fearless Follys that features Vidio clips of CCPs staffers who are, well, Drunk or hungover at CCP events
This. Also it appears someone at CCP has picked up a few more books about social media interaction and took the brave leap of not limiting it to twitter, a blog and facebook like 99% of companies. I like it, and wish you all the best CCP marketeers. Time to drag out some old screenshots for you .
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Katrishar
Minmatar Rayn Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:53:00 -
[169]
Dear CCP,
I love the new marketing video and the whole idea behind the new site to bring in more players, and thus more money for you guys. I and many other Eve players will participate in this marketing site, but please consider shifting more resources into making these Eve expansions more fleshed out. Give the noobs more than 1 new room every few months to walk around in. Also do the stuff the CSM requested several months back.
love,
-Katrishar
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Heavenly Blues
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:05:00 -
[170]
I was there when I black screened for 3 hours and couldn't log into the fight.
I was there when you lied about an industry expansion.
I was there when you didn't finish Faction Warfare.
I was there when you didn't finish apochrypha.
I was there when you didn't finish dominion.
I was there when dominion broke eve for 6 months and you denied it.
I was there when you made super caps OP and promised to fix it later.
I was there when you released spacebook and farmville as a full expansion.
I was there when you released farmville 2.0 and broken forums as expansion content.
I was there all this time and still liked you.
I was there when you ask for 4 months worth of subs for a badly rendered vanity item.
I am no longer there.
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Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:10:00 -
[171]
....what we don't get 99$ come on fair is fair, so how about developers paying in Aurum?
CCP Shadow 24/06/2010 17:30:40: We do not have plans to go microtransaction with EVE. October 2010 CSM Virtual Goods unveiled
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Monikerina
Amarr Macross Space Defense Squadron The Conglomeration of Ill Advised Ideas
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:14:00 -
[172]
Who cares.
Doesn't everyone remember the NEX rollout? If they are going to price things so high as 12,000 Aurum, does anyone think their mentality towards Aurum pricing will shift?
I'm certain they will give people 50 Aurum. Woopee doo. That will buy you the Minmatar dust bunny that sits under the couch in your CQ.
I'm absolutely certain the aurum amount distributed will be pathetic.
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Buzzmong
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:20:00 -
[173]
Hold on. I think I'm seeing Deja-vu.
I do believe it went something like this:
CCP upsets playerbase by making terrible decisions. *a few weeks after the noise dies down* CCP: Can you please vote for us to win Game of the Year? We'll love you lots! Players: Are you serious?!
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Circumstantial Evidence
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:23:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Monikerina I'm certain they will give people 50 Aurum. Woopee doo. That will buy you the Minmatar dust bunny that sits under the couch in your CQ.
I'm absolutely certain the aurum amount distributed will be pathetic.
Do you have a principled stand against Aurum and MT? Or, can your participation be bought for a new pair of boots? |
J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:36:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Heavenly Blues
I am no longer there.
Whew...thank goodness...I thought you were going to say you're still there. ~Gnosis~ |
Unlce Ruckus
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Posted - 2011.07.08 00:06:00 -
[176]
Ah the happy sounds of gamers disagreeing...
Why so much hate fellas? I mean sure Incarna was anticlimactic, and there is still problems with balance and lag and all the other things that keep reminding us we're just playing a game (Oh and the AUR-thing, seriously).
But really, its not worth the vitriol is it? CCP is a developer, we are consumers. Frankly we should be happy they give a crap at all. Of course they want to make money, our money. The money we spend so that we can see our characters through the next thirty days of skilling. If you don't like the trade off, then move on.
But we all get connected to characters. Even the ones with numebrs intead of surnames... Or blatant misspellings... The little narratives and stories that build up even just in your head are evidence of that.
So come on. It makes good sense for CCP to use the resource that is our game experience to help sell their product. And its not like we won't get anything out of it, even without any AUR-whatnots. Some publicity here, a bit of good karma there, that sort of thing never goes amiss.
So quite yer belly-aching and give CCP a chance before you get all sarcy, eh?
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Sorgenbinder
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Posted - 2011.07.08 00:08:00 -
[177]
They can't even decide if we're pod-bound or if we decant from our pods every time we want to drop a shipment of Veld in a station.
Real? It isn't even really immersive anymore. |
Terghon Tu
Amarr DarkNet Node Fanaticus
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Posted - 2011.07.08 00:10:00 -
[178]
Poo, poo, and more poo to the naysayers. This sounds like a great idea and a way for people to show WHY our EVE is better than the other games. Because it is OUR EVE, not CCP's EVE.
And that new trailer? Watched it 4 times in a row. Got shivers every time. Give that team a bonus. ---------- The right to do something doesn't make doing it right. |
zzlep Alduin
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Posted - 2011.07.08 00:15:00 -
[179]
I was there I was there
I was so there
Oh wait.....
DARN
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cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers
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Posted - 2011.07.08 00:18:00 -
[180]
LOL CCP what the fudge... /facepalm
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General Xenophon
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Posted - 2011.07.08 00:57:00 -
[181]
The video wasn't bad. Although usually the key to getting more customers is making your current customers happy, or trying to. CCP you aren't doing this by a long shot. Yea people may enjoy your game, but 8 times out of 10 you're ****ing a lot of people off with the bs you pull. Instead of 'rethinking your advertising' why don't you 'rethink' how you treat your playerbase by not screwing us over in patches, changing important parts of the game like Jump Bridges for one, and nerfing the **** out of things because you haven't given the thought of balancing things enough time to begin with.
Yea you talked to the CSM but rolling out some stupid advertising campaign isn't enough. You might be offering candy, but you're still the shady man in the van.
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Jonathan Malcom
Gallente Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.07.08 01:41:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Della Monk The new trailer is cheesy, sure, but that's part of the charm I'd say.
I'll agree with this. I enjoyed the video. I'm not sure if that's in spite of or because of it's cheesy-ness.
Still, though. I can't deny that it makes me want to log in and X up. ___________________
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Sed Man
Gallente Havoc Violence and Chaos
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Posted - 2011.07.08 01:42:00 -
[183]
Edited by: Sed Man on 08/07/2011 01:44:50 Australian laws are not too damn hard, you just have to differentiate your 'competition' from a lottery. The law is basically: if its a game of chance, then you have to apply for a permit. If its a game of skill/knowledge/ability, then you dont need a permit.
So if your awarding prizes based on a lottery type system, with no merit system applied, then you need permits. If awarding prizes is based on criteria that are not chance based, then you dont need a permit.
Considering this is a competition where content is submitted and a panel of people judge the best based on criteria which doesnt include chance, then Australians can participate.
Do a little more research before you go excluding Australians from competitions.
EDIT: I thought the vid was awesome and enspiring. Nice job.
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WisdomPanda
Goatriders Horde The Scapegoats
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Posted - 2011.07.08 01:45:00 -
[184]
I'm seeing a lot of "ARGLEWARGLEBLARGLE", so I'd like to offer a grain of sanity to a thread that is currently suffering from an overflow of butt hurt from other threads and topics.
As an Eve player, I have - more than once - shared a battle story with other people, Eve players or not. When you're talking with people who are use to "WoW size MMO's" where getting getting more than 16 people is like trying to herd cats through the middle of an interstate highway, the mention over "over 1,000 people on field" tends to make them stop and pay attention a bit more. Follow it up with the fact you actually lost/took something tangible that effects the universe, and you're somewhere no other MMO lets you go.
If you are put into a stressful situation, it can get your blood pumping (also known as Epinephrine) and can even make your hands shake. I've had it more than once in EvE and it's a feeling like no other in the MMO world; loss means something here and the impact it can have to you and others is massive. More than that though, there is pride you can associate with "being there", in taking part of something big and massive that helped to shape something larger than your self. ("Big and massive" describing the event, not the amount of people)
As far as "EVE is real" goes, the points and counter points all hinge on your definition of "real". Is it real because it can create or provoke experiences and emotions? You'll hold your own opinion, but ponder this;
An asteroid hits a planet in a far off galaxy, it destroys the planet (no life forms, don't panic) causing an epic array of cause and effects in that system. We, however, only see the slight feed back (maybe a slightly brighter dot in the sky, way down the road). Despite the massive implications that are involved, we take no part in it and feel no substantial effect from it. In that regard, EVE (and other virtual activities) provide a far more "real" event, as they impact our day to day lives on a much more frequent and deeper level. Equally, we impact EVE's events just as much.
EVE changes you, in my opinion, that makes it real. There is however the misconception that something being "real" means you take it too seriously. This however is not an issue of real, but rather of priorities. Assuming you can manage your priorities correctly so that "critical" events (work, sleep, making babies) are given enough time, it is no ones place to judge a (legal) hobby of it's worth. We are free to choose what we enjoy and how, so long as it adheres to the laws we agree to follow. (The laws you are ironically born into accepting, but that's another story all together.)
Originally by: "Optimus Prime" "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."
tl;dr; Regardless of your stand point, the events in EVE happen, with real people (in this case, much easier to define) committing time, resource and knowledge to work together (or alone, but still as part of a whole) to move EVE into an as yet unknown future. If real is defined as something that you can effect and that effects you, EVE is defiantly real - far more than any other MMO.
If you don't believe so, this blog should have no effect on you what so ever, as your powerful logic driven minds would know that CCP is a business that needs money to run and has various different divisions that work on different aspects. Everyone knows and understands this, right? (Do you seriously want PR/marketing guys trying to work on EVE code/art? Seriously?)
Having said all this... he was over acting. ----- Cheesecake, Natures ultimate weapon.
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Van Derka
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:00:00 -
[185]
Why CCP cant just make a feature movie on EVE and put that in the cinemas I dont know...
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Othar en'gilliath
Caldari OMNI Technologies
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:04:00 -
[186]
Edited by: Othar en''gilliath on 08/07/2011 02:03:56
Originally by: Van Derka Why CCP cant just make a feature movie on EVE and put that in the cinemas I dont know...
^ this
also they said the might if the books sell well o.O
which reminds me
/me waits for 2nd eve novel (3rd if you count burning life but 2nd to the 1st)
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:23:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Buzzmong Hold on. I think I'm seeing Deja-vu.
I do believe it went something like this:
CCP upsets playerbase by making terrible decisions. *a few weeks after the noise dies down* CCP: Can you please vote for us to win Game of the Year? We'll love you lots! Players: Are you serious?!
Hahaha :|
Pssst... they won... ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Zaboth Garadath
Amarr Ore Extraction Corporation
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Posted - 2011.07.08 03:50:00 -
[188]
Would anyone happen to have a mirror link of the new trailer?
China hates youtube _____________________________________________
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Sha Dar
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2011.07.08 04:16:00 -
[189]
Damn good idea to have a repository of good videos and stories, the stuff that went down in the great sandbox that was eve.
When it's all turns to **** it will be a good reminder of when things were good.
I'd suggest chribba host it though, then it can't be messed with. |
Altair Raja
Minmatar Colonial Marines EVE Division
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Posted - 2011.07.08 04:25:00 -
[190]
this video should make it then Whenever people ask about EVE its the first thing I show them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2oxt7Nrxo
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Elliott Calvadeux
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Posted - 2011.07.08 04:27:00 -
[191]
This is actually a very clever, and reasonable marketing campaign. The video is quite good too. Kudos guys.
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St'oto
Elite Predators
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Posted - 2011.07.08 05:38:00 -
[192]
Edited by: St''oto on 08/07/2011 05:39:12 Ok, while I first have to say that I'm glad you guys are gonna start rewarding your playerbase for free marketing, (even though I still think it's partly evil, but I'm anti Big ben and co so don't worry about it.) why the hell do you want to let new users suffer so bad? I would be 100% on board with this and wouldn't fuss not one bit, if the game was a bit more functional. I seriously feel sorry for any newbie coming into this game due to this new marketing spl0it because the game is pretty damn buggy. Release a nice "Fix 100 million bugs" type patch and than deploy this marketing strategy. PLEASE! In fact stop with incarna and just dedicate one entire season's patch to complete bug fixes. No new content, no fluff, just pure bug fixes. I've been an undying and devoted EVE fan since I was 13 years old. I'm now almost 21. But FFS I'm starting to feel like I'm playing a damn beta. I'm tired of all my money going towards new expansions that only serve to garner the attention of new players! After all these years I think the vets deserve one damn patch dedicated to bug fixing and not "new player initiative."
I seriously can't even brag about EVE anymore to my clan mates.(Which they are probably happy with.) I've annoyed the hell out of them for 7 long years bringing you money! Now I can't do it. As they easily counter with "Fix the damn bugs and we'll play."
EDIT: Sorry for *****ing but I'm reaching wits end here.
/Signed a "vet" who practically GREW up with EVE.
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Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.07.08 05:44:00 -
[193]
The video was cheesy, yes, but I like what CCP is trying to do with this. EVE has always been about the community and the shared experience (see the "Butterfly Effect" video), and emphasizing/developing this side of EVE is the way to keep it growing.
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Braondra
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Posted - 2011.07.08 06:05:00 -
[194]
That was painful to watch. Absolutely not what the game is about. Was that a capsuleer? Why would he be nervous when we all know he has another clone and another ship waiting?
Sigh
My subscription still runs out on the 23rd. No changes made.
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Written Word
Written Word's Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.07.08 06:40:00 -
[195]
The first wave of articles to be submitted to that site should just be documenting of all CCP's fvck ups
Its pretty rich history running back for years, everybody loves the drama involved and it completely griefs the marketing team.
What's more EVE than that?
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DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.08 07:01:00 -
[196]
I am planning on posting 4 stories to help out, 2 corporate war stories, 1 pirate-linked story and 1 detailing the recent protest, this last one will have an image and emphasis that while both sides ****ed up (community and devs), the community as a whole was strong and united (not so common in MMOs) and that the devs rather slow but more than adequate response to the whole affair (I'll make sure to point out that a slow yet well thought out response is better than a rushed one that didn't not nuke concerns, just hope no one reads Zulu's devblog afterward :-S ). This last story may cast CCP in a poor light but it will point out to any new players that they are joining a community that is more than passionate about the game they play and maybe to put a lil' cherry on top I'll add in a link to one of Mittani's initial interviews regarding his activities with the GIA ( suffice to say that got me wanting to come back after I'd throughly burned out).
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.07.08 07:07:00 -
[197]
I like it, no scratch that I love it, as a historian I love the fact that (finally) there will be a place for all those memories and stories we build up over the years. I know I kept alot of the old stuff from my time in PIE and early CVA and before that when eve was just a beta.
It would be nice to know that things like that wouldn't just dissapear. Now if CCP releases an awesome blog about upgrades to our space game shortly after I'll be even more happier.
btw, I liked the video, cause even if its a little cheesy, I remember similar fights. |
Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.07.08 07:08:00 -
[198]
Edited by: Sarmatiko on 08/07/2011 07:10:09
Originally by: Zaboth Garadath Would anyone happen to have a mirror link of the new trailer?
China hates youtube
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/TrialLandingSite/video/Iwasthere.mp4 From this page http://trial.eveonline.com/en/eveisreal.aspx |
Limyla
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Posted - 2011.07.08 07:09:00 -
[199]
It was a good Fictional Video, not a trailer,
a trailer shows at least something that you can do in game,
Worrying about buddy being shot up? why when they just wake up in station, collect insurance and buy another ship.
Gallente worth using in PVP? don't remember that being here.
And once again, Dog fight style combat? if only, they should have put it how it really is, both sides sitting in Maelstroms at 50km firing at each other while some annoying dude you can't understand is yelling on comms.
or maybe its just the fact that i'm in a bad mood this evening. still a good movie.. |
Castiel Arnolles
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Posted - 2011.07.08 07:19:00 -
[200]
So I have 0 capabilities creating a computer rendered scene like "I was there". But I can make video games. More specifically I was thinking of a 2d top-down shooter of an event in the eve universe. I don't want to sell it or really release it any other way than through the website described in the CCP Blog. (the video made me want to do it.) I think it would be a fun little project. |
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Morphisat
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2011.07.08 07:45:00 -
[201]
First you slap us around and make fun of us in internal email and now we're supposed to help ?
CCP Troll Best Troll !
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2011.07.08 07:48:00 -
[202]
I'm starting to understand why CCP is losing so much money, stop wasting it on stupid marketing videos for a non-existant player base.
You are reminding me more and more of SOE. |
Morpheus Solo
Minmatar Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.07.08 07:49:00 -
[203]
God almighty CCP, when will you start communicating a little between departements, the timing for this so bad its hillarious. Now you want us helping you in marketing using player created material, while you have a community that doesnt exactly fall on their knees in admiration for your work with Eve. You even want to reward contributors with the very currency that have a not small part in enraging the community.
Worst in that blog though is the prices:
"We'll also have two side voting contests on best still image and best video. There will be some free graphics cards and a high end PC as prizes for those"
Really, is this some bad joke. While CQ creates a lot problems with graphics cards, evenburns GPU's for some users u offer graphics cards as a price. I hope u have a lot of those in the bag :-).
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Mei Haruka
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Posted - 2011.07.08 08:27:00 -
[204]
Hey eve is real! there are like skills in eve the game some skills take 30 days to train, and you can wait 30 days to get it and then it won't apply to your ship!
Hekatonkheires, it's too soon, i am still butt hurt i can't help you |
Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.08 08:30:00 -
[205]
Originally by: stoicfaux Given that Aurum can't buy anything useful right now, can we assume that the NeX store inventory is going to be heavily updated *before* the community goal web site deal goes live?
Unless I am totally mistaken the goal (at least from the players point of view) is that there will never be something useful in the NeX store.
It is a vanity store, not a useful things store. |
Alvia Div
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Posted - 2011.07.08 09:06:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Mag's I was there, looking at a door.
What a coincidence! |
Regina Shepard
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Posted - 2011.07.08 09:07:00 -
[207]
CCP needs to commit its man power to fixing the game instead of building ôMicro-sitesö and trying to recruit new players. The video was far too cheesy and is likely to set many potential new players up for disappointment when they sign up for a trial (or worse, subscribe) and realize the game really isnÆt what they thought. Also, Aurum as a reward? Not sure that is any incentive for most players but I could be wrong. |
McPod
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:03:00 -
[208]
Put......the.....pipe.....DOWN! |
Mendrik Crest
Freelancer Limited Beer and Smoke Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:13:00 -
[209]
That was quick :
GU Comics take on the trailer |
J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:34:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Braondra That was painful to watch. Absolutely not what the game is about. Was that a capsuleer? Why would he be nervous when we all know he has another clone and another ship waiting?
Well, umm, no....see, he was a player like you or me who's hands were shaking behind his mouse, keyboard and monitor. How'd you miss that? |
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Nehmen Geld
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:13:00 -
[211]
Edited by: Nehmen Geld on 08/07/2011 11:14:38
Originally by: DeadlyThreat
Originally by: Throatslitter Anyone know why Australia is getting the short end of the stick, again?
Seems unfair, no EVE advertizing here, ever, no boxsets available, and now excluded from competitions.
Other than that, sounds a good idea, I hope it pays off.
Because Australia's contest laws are horrid.
Yeah. Here in Australia we can't do anything without the government wanting to either control us or take our money. Want to drink beer out of a glass or wine out of a bottle after 10pm? Sorry, government says no. Have a plastic cup instead. Want to buy cigarettes? Government says "only in plain white packaging". Want to win some Aurum out of something other than a game of skill, sorry, government says you have to declare it as income... want to breath out? Sorry, government wants $23 for every tonne of CO2 you produce... Australia is so ****ed by the nanny state it's unbelievable. Seriously need an election and a decent party to vote for. If only there was a Goon Party here in Oz. Mittens for PM! lol |
Unshra
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:47:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Mendrik Crest That was quick :
GU Comics take on the trailer
Yup, I laughed out loud when I saw Woody's latest fan assisted (Breandan submitted the idea) comic.
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Aganola
Amarr Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:56:00 -
[213]
I was there:
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
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Y0ur M0m
Gallente Serene Security Corporation
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:58:00 -
[214]
Love the idea. Great to bring new players in and a great idea to have a Museum about EVE Experiences. Thanks for that. |
StyphonUK
Caldari Fearless Bandits Fearless Bears
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Posted - 2011.07.08 12:32:00 -
[215]
Great idea. There are so many good stories out there from the players. I'll be contributing when the site goes live. |
Trishar
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Posted - 2011.07.08 12:44:00 -
[216]
great idea. great video.
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Carmine Lady
Amarr Sinners. Yarr Collective
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Posted - 2011.07.08 12:44:00 -
[217]
As a graphic communication/design student the community advert thing is awesome, speaking as a designer not a gamer or bittervet I will participate.
Also awesome trailer |
Mersault
Gallente The Pie Factory
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Posted - 2011.07.08 13:03:00 -
[218]
I think this is a great idea. The vid did remind me of some great fights when I was in 0.0 years ago. |
Y0ur M0m
Gallente Serene Security Corporation
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Posted - 2011.07.08 13:37:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Unshra
Originally by: Mendrik Crest That was quick :
GU Comics take on the trailer
Yup, I laughed out loud when I saw Woody's latest fan assisted (Breandan submitted the idea) comic.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
ROFL, man that **** is funny! |
Cailais
Amarr Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:04:00 -
[220]
Yo Devs! Been watchin Deus Ex much? http://www.sarifindustries.com/
C.
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Meridan Night
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:52:00 -
[221]
those who complain about no warpable bookmarks being created in this trailer don't understand the basics of filmmaking. it's not interesting to watch. period. some single ship making their way through enemy fleet however, that's a whole another story.
how many of you think Inception was real? or Transformers, Spiderman, etc. None of the big Hollywood moneymakers are based on realistic events of life. approximations at best. and yet hundreds of millions of people pay to watch them.
EVE players pride themselves how intelligent they are, more intelligent than ppl who play other MMOs. and yet you act like complete idiots about some basic things that a 7-year-old can wrap their brain around. which really shows that you just whine because you want to whine, not because you fail to understand. |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:52:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Nehmen Geld Yeah. Here in Australia [...] Want to drink beer out of a glass or wine out of a bottle after 10pm? Sorry, government says no. Have a plastic cup instead. Want to buy cigarettes? Government says "only in plain white packaging". Want to win some Aurum out of something other than a game of skill, sorry, government says you have to declare it as income.
I thought the US was getting pretty horrible with the nanny state BS, but good lord, what is happening in the land of Oz? |
Khamal Jolstien
Caldari Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:59:00 -
[223]
I like the "show you the money" bit, since CCP doesn't give Aurum real cash value. Either give us game-time, or send us a check to do your marketing job. |
Ehranavaar
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.08 16:02:00 -
[224]
this should be good fun if enough people get into it. |
Servius Vilianus
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Posted - 2011.07.08 16:39:00 -
[225]
These comments do make for some pretty depressing reading. Maybe it's because I recognise my own tendency to dismissive cynicism in some of them.
But the odd thing is, if I feel that way about politics, or the media, or whatever else, I just don't feel it about EVE. I play this game because I enjoy it. It's fun. I like the game, the setting, and the presentation. I like CCP's involvement in it, and their engagement with the player base. I like that they involve us in the development of their universe; that we can make a mark.
So I intend to join in with your new site. Call it "doing CCP's marketing for free" if you like, but I don't think that argument really carries much weight in a society where people happily pay designer clothing companies hundreds of pounds/dollars/ISK/whatever just for the privilege of displaying the company's name on their clothes. We all advertise the things we enjoy - music, sports, beer, operating systems, religions - and we don't care that the entities we're marketing benefit from it: that's kind of the point. We want to spread the word about the things we like. And if, in doing that, we can help flesh out the already-impressively-fleshed-out universe of EVE, then so much the better.
Yep: count me in. |
Alexander Knott
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.07.08 17:04:00 -
[226]
I Was There, with Shadoo |
Riveting Tale Sibling
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Posted - 2011.07.08 17:30:00 -
[227]
Came expecting relevant poasts about fixes to broken game.
Found out the Mittani will be getting a free laptop after over 9,000 altvotes.
Left dissapointed. |
Sasio Shihari
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Posted - 2011.07.08 17:52:00 -
[228]
At first I thought it was Bud Bundy... |
St'oto
Elite Predators
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Posted - 2011.07.08 18:58:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Braondra That was painful to watch. Absolutely not what the game is about. Was that a capsuleer? Why would he be nervous when we all know he has another clone and another ship waiting?
Sigh
My subscription still runs out on the 23rd. No changes made.
I guess it's just me then. When I'm in a fleet battle like that my adrenaline spikes and I get nervous anticipating the fight. That's why I love eve. No other game has given me that visceral experience that effects me like that. |
Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.07.08 19:00:00 -
[230]
EVE is really a game. |
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Illadelph Justice
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.07.08 19:53:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Alexander Knott I Was There, with Shadoo
We have a win win winner. |
Sylthi
Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic Holy Empire of The Unshaven
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Posted - 2011.07.08 20:14:00 -
[232]
Edited by: Sylthi on 08/07/2011 20:22:49 Ok.... so let me see if I have this straight:
1. CCP Devs MASSIVELY p_iss off much of the Eve community by bringing in previously promised "no plans to go to" MTs and then proceed to call the community "Golden Geese" and "Cash Cows" at the same time. (Many more issues pis_s off many others, just summarizing the things that stuck in MY mind here for expediency.) 2. CCP Devs PANIC at the many players walking out the door because of the rampant, long standing, neglect and abuse. CCP responds, not by actually TALKING to the players, but instead by calling their CSM PR reps to Iceland; thinking that will mean a dam_n to a lot of the players in the process of leaving. 3. CCP Devs pretend to give a half-hearted apology and promise that they will take care of "our game" and not "break it". Promising also, more transparency (SOON(tm)) and a blog talking about "pricing strategy" on the MTs that were previously promised never to be in the game in the first place. 4. Instead of a blog about pricing the community receives a VERY transparent PR-gimick-blog attempting to get the community re-emotionally invested in the game. While at the same time HOPING to succeed in an attempt to get us to forget about CCP's most recent string of neglect, abuses, deceptions, and lies. And, even going so far as offering us a completely non-valued BRIBE if we actually start doing MORE of their work FOR them.
Yeah. I think that about covers where I am at with this.
So, CCP, are you anything BESIDES cheap marketing and PR gimmicks now days? Do you have any actual CONTENT for the paying (now DOUBLE-billed) customers? Nevermind. I know the answer to both. Going back to the parts of the game you haven't broken or completely merchandised...... YET.
Edit: And then within seconds of my post... the pricing blog appears. Someone at CCP listening for once? Nah. Doubt it. |
Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
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Posted - 2011.07.08 20:26:00 -
[233]
about that movie: "I was There"
you should have used Michael Bolton (tournament 9)
no d-scan needed for a 20k ceptor flight through hostiles |
Bureau Crat
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Posted - 2011.07.08 20:49:00 -
[234]
So now that you're asking people to put work into something that'll improve the community, and help advance/advertise your game, will you be asking 99$ from the people who participate?
I mean, this equates to community fueled websites and tools, yes? |
Terrible Goon Spy
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2011.07.08 21:17:00 -
[235]
I think it's important to show case EVE history, so that we don't forget the stupid **** we've fought through since the game began. Aside from Old Youtube joke videos, Goon produced hilarity(jihadswarm, awesome video production, and etc etc), There isn't much recording of the history of the terrible people who play eve. Where can you honestly say we have a good record aside from mittens, of the shadow actions of EVE, like the BoB disbandment, or the implosion of Delve?
A public record would most assuredly be useful to educate noobs, which we need more of them, so we can blow up more ships. |
Saul Perry
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Posted - 2011.07.08 21:30:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Illadelph Justice
Originally by: Alexander Knott I Was There, with Shadoo
We have a win win winner.
Oh god. Seriously. That made me laugh till I cried. |
Kylod
Invictus Australis Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 22:00:00 -
[237]
Cool vid, but the i'd change the last scence to a cut scene of the guy lying on a couch with his shrink taking notes. |
Mallak Azaria
Three 6 MaFiA
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Posted - 2011.07.09 01:20:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Nehmen Geld Yeah. Here in Australia [...] Want to drink beer out of a glass or wine out of a bottle after 10pm? Sorry, government says no. Have a plastic cup instead. Want to buy cigarettes? Government says "only in plain white packaging". Want to win some Aurum out of something other than a game of skill, sorry, government says you have to declare it as income.
I thought the US was getting pretty horrible with the nanny state BS, but good lord, what is happening in the land of Oz?
We became a dictatorship. Now that I think about it, John Howard wasn't all that bad. However, Rudd did give us all free money. Our new Dictator, Ghoulia "The Dyke" Gillard is possibly the worst dictator in the history of dictators. |
Shaera Taam
Minmatar Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.09 01:28:00 -
[239]
yknow, i dont care if it was cheesy... that was a fair bit of storytelling and fekin wonderful graphics on the fleet fight...
so much so that there's a small part of me going, 'make a fekin movie already!'
a small part... |
Celebgon Blamed
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Posted - 2011.07.09 02:29:00 -
[240]
Every MMORPG has a story. Many of them try to tell it with a heroic 1st person on rails, with everyone doing the same quest at the same time. EVE is different and this idea proves it. The story of EVE is evolving and guess what? We are it. You can call it marketing if you want, but really it's a great way to get the story out there where people can experience it. The story of EVE is told from many different perspectives and is unfolding in real time. And the more diverse types of people that participate in it, the more interesting it will become. Even more interesting is what EVE is capable of in the future. I wonder if I could write about that? |
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elnukeo
Minmatar Heretic Army
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Posted - 2011.07.09 04:29:00 -
[241]
ill be there! |
Tez Saurus
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Posted - 2011.07.09 05:10:00 -
[242]
I humbly nominate all my videos
http://www.youtube.com/dredditmot |
Cosmoes
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.09 05:22:00 -
[243]
hmm lets see what I can do with this
Eve is really long mining ops Eve is really expensive clothes Eve is, really we have no fkn idea we just make this **** up as we go Eve is really buggy Eve is r (This slogan will be iterated on at a later date)
Take a logo and stick with it (epic, awesome, excellence??).
Also let me apologize on behalf of Australians, yes we know our laws are stupid and backwards. We are trying but there's not too much we can do about it =(. |
Juggalo Stazz
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.09 07:35:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Cosmoes Edited by: Cosmoes on 09/07/2011 05:27:38 hmm lets see what I can do with this
Eve is really long mining ops Eve is really expensive clothes Eve is, really we have no fkn idea we just make this **** up as we go Eve is really buggy Eve is r (This slogan will be iterated on at a later date) Eve is really hardcore like gate camps Eve is really competitive pvp (unless you have enough isk to bribe your opponent)
Take a slogan and stick with it (epic, awesome, excellence??).
Also let me apologize on behalf of Australians, yes we know our laws are stupid and backwards. We are trying but there's not too much we can do about it .
And yet your account is still active and you are playing no doubt. |
Sral TBear
Shipwreck cove
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Posted - 2011.07.09 08:13:00 -
[245]
Edited by: Sral TBear on 09/07/2011 08:13:43 Well i do have tales. Maby something about the solo pirate brotherhood, and some about working under the surface of eve....might work on something....
All aspects of eve should be in something like that, many plyers only se the "loud" stuf, there is 50% more under the surface..... |
Vengeance Thirst
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Posted - 2011.07.09 08:52:00 -
[246]
Hmm Think I've made a post once like 2 years ago about making possible in eve to record battles and add them to the in game map or a web page where people can use the game client or a special player to replay the battle and look at different ships from different angles.. kind of like a "homeworld" replay.
Think that would be alot cooler than a bunch of dudes mixing facts with reality to make it interesting and showing some screen shots of ther carrier getting shot in a lvl5 mission.... |
Khadann
Caldari Sense of Serendipity Echoes of Nowhere
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Posted - 2011.07.09 10:34:00 -
[247]
Nice video :)
We see nice warp effets and also the nebula background shown back at fanfest... Any news about release?
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Dante Marcellus
Minmatar Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.07.09 10:47:00 -
[248]
Edited by: Dante Marcellus on 09/07/2011 10:50:30 That was awesome! I just wish that I had something to contribute. I don't even think I have worthwhile screenshots anywhere :/
Also, new nebulae! Want. NOW! |
Cosmoes
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.09 10:57:00 -
[249]
Edited by: Cosmoes on 09/07/2011 11:00:07 OK given a little more time to think on this I gotta say this is a bad idea. This sounds like evelopedia all over again. People still use other sites for most everything, lots of gaps or incorrect or old content, lack of moderation and it's still in beta (4 years after release).
While I love player created content and all these stories and whatnot there are a couple of key questions that I think CCP need to ask themselves about this site:
1. Who is this aimed at?
2. How will you control content? (moderation, filters)
3. What sort of content are you aiming for? (eg. text, videos, images, all good, bad, realistic)
4. How do you plan to avoid the legal nightmare?
The first one is a big one I think. Are they aiming this at getting the message out there to people who aren't playing eve? Cause those people probably aren't gonna looking deep through random parts of the eve sites for videos and stuff. Where they will be looking at is YouTube, which is where they are already so what are you trying to do here?
"We'll have community sharing goals...." This to me sounds like you expect us to go around advertising eve on facebook or sites like "MMORPG.com". This all seems very backwards to me we are moving stuff from the sites people are used to finding them on to one eve site then using our social connections to try and spread it back out for pocket money from CCP? The way it sounds is as if everyone gets the same amount at the same time which would be a blessing for balance (clarification needed), also very drug dealer like in giving everyone a "free sample" of Aurum.
The second part is obvious enough. What's gonna stop this from being a massive parade of eve bugs and mining fleets? or hell it could even be a bunch of meatspin videos? Unless they plan some sort of thing where they are only allowed up after being checked, in which case your just asking for pain.
Also do you want this to be eve only at it's best? Or do you expect this to be a well rounded representation of eve. What format is it going to be? If I decide to make a series of rp video logs is that gonna have it's own section or does it get thrown in with the PVP fights, alliance tournaments and tourists videos of amarr statues. How bout if I decide to write some fanfiction does it get thrown in with the fleet write ups? There's gonna be new forms of this stuff popping up all the time that need proper care and their own special way to display them. Using the internet we can do this however the hell we want, hell if we need we can write our own programs and websites to display it all, WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO CONTROL ALL OF THIS NOW??? (sry flashbacks of Australian crazy country firewall plan)
Finally say I make a video of a fleet fight and I add the song "Requiem for a dream" to it (Cause they song doesn't get used enough /*sarcasm*/). If I stick that on YouTube it's all on me about the licensing agreements when whoever owns that song gets angry and asks for it to be taken down. But if you decide to take all of those videos and display them on your site as a form of advertisement for your game??..... I'm no lawyer but I can see problems with that. |
Sister Nadine
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.09 11:43:00 -
[250]
Originally by: CCP Fallout It really is! And CCP Hekatonkheires tells us all about it in his new blog!
I love the Video a super idea! Keep it up..the great work! |
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Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest
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Posted - 2011.07.09 12:30:00 -
[251]
Lovely idea. I'll be sure to contribute. |
Jasper Kopps
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Posted - 2011.07.09 12:52:00 -
[252]
CCP Hekatonkheires , part of your blog said "show us your cool **** and we'll show you the money . I would like to remind you that **** = bad , rubbish , crap etc . Please use STUFF as it means just that or things , that is the more correct word . Apart from that CCP should NOT refer to EvE as a Game , EvE is a Way Of Life ! EvEn the reply sensure bleeps out the S**T word , my point is made .
Jasper Kopps , Englishman . |
Neferfiti Akhenaten
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Posted - 2011.07.09 13:55:00 -
[253]
This is so cliche its not even funny.
"Cool story bro"
Seriously.... I can't even begin to pick apart the contradictions. |
Xorth Adimus
Caldari Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.07.09 22:04:00 -
[254]
Edited by: Xorth Adimus on 09/07/2011 22:04:35 I was there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-38w7s5Hk |
Erik Finnegan
Gallente Polytechnique Gallenteenne
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Posted - 2011.07.09 22:17:00 -
[255]
A bit cheese, yes, but good. I like the new aesthetics ! I take it as an announcement for a Gallente buff.
Also : more pilots for New Eden is always a good campaing goal. +1 for Marketing. |
Leil Ren'Do
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Posted - 2011.07.10 01:35:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Erik Finnegan A bit cheese, yes, but good. I like the new aesthetics ! I take it as an announcement for a Gallente buff.
Also : more pilots for New Eden is always a good campaing goal. +1 for Marketing.
... ccp you're really going this low are you. also removing plexes from the market sell orders.. It is amazing with how much abuse your community will keep up with. That is a compliment to you I guess.. You've finally reached my tollerence level. gl.
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EdwardNardella
Capital Construction Research
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Posted - 2011.07.10 02:49:00 -
[257]
I found that the actors performance to be extremely disappointing. I did not feel like he believed what he said: "it was a helpless feeling, watching your friends get shot up" "my hands were shaking" ôthey had it comingö The actor needed to me more emotionally engaged with his story, I donÆt think it was under played much, but was not played correctly.
I will admit that it is probably an extremely difficult part to play. But I still really think you could have done better.
The distortion of the fleet commanders voice made things hard to understand, increasing the volume could have helped fix this problem.
I believe that anyone who has not played EVE would have difficulty understanding the situation.
I think you should have changed: "and let the big guns do the killing" to "so our short range, high damage guns could kill them fast" ôfleet hostiles inboundö to ôenemy reinforcements inboundö ôitÆs like going into a gun fight with a knifeö to ôitÆs like taking on snipers with shot gunsö ôclear commsö should have been omitted or changed to something like ôshut upö
The tactic being used to counter the long range fleet should have been more clear. You could have said things likeö ôthrough 200 clicks of space acting as a beaconö ôæceptors, get on them so we can warp to youö
IMO you should have shown the friendly fleet retreating after the FC orders them to. The last thing I think you should have done was have the fleet warp be only one camera shot. (midway between the two fleets at some distance, zoomed in on the inbound fleet zooming out a bit as they reach the center then back in as they land. Or if this is not an option two shots but both from the same location. The sense of how and where the ships were actually moving was not properly conveyed.
Finally I found the transition at the end had lots of potential to create a chilling and engaging effect. I expect that this was true for some but the following things broke the feeling for me. *The way the actor turned to face the camera felt unnatural. *The actor and character were facing/looking slightly different directions. *When the actor turns to face the camera his eyes are slightly off, not looking directly into the lens. *The camera angle/zoom change right before the transition throws things off. *The pose change also makes it seem less natural/right.
All in all it was an okay trailer, but the massive number of tiny little details that are off make it far less than awesome. |
Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2011.07.10 03:14:00 -
[258]
I'm trying to figure out why I should help advertise a game that I'm not entirely thrilled with at the moment. (Has nothing to do with the incarna patch other than it being 'yet another patch that does nothing to improve and plenty to degrade the quality of the game')
Seriously.... stop screwing the game up more and more and I might consider helping again like I did before dominion.... but ever since almost every patch has made the game worse, not better. It's less laggy... that's about the only good thing I have to say about the changes that have been made over the past couple years. |
Zey Nadar
Gallente Unknown Soldiers B O R G
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Posted - 2011.07.10 08:37:00 -
[259]
Edited by: Zey Nadar on 10/07/2011 08:40:22 I wish I was there when someone took an all-gallente BS fleet to defend their station.
On a serious note, I hope CCP get something out of this, theres propably like one out of 5000 people willing to contribute.
Originally by: Xorth Adimus Edited by: Xorth Adimus on 09/07/2011 22:04:35 I was there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-38w7s5Hk
Good one. |
Laedy
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.07.10 09:23:00 -
[260]
Wait what the heck???
What's all this is rascism towards Australians?
Reminded me of this for some reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs_rXxi0zhM |
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ArchenTheGreat
Caldari Pulsar Nebulah Army of Lovers.
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Posted - 2011.07.10 10:18:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Laedy Wait what the heck???
What's all this is rascism towards Australians?
Australian is not a race. And if you have problems with your laws go and ask your government to change them. It's your fault to put christian fundamentalists into power. Seriously you can't expect CCP to break YOUR OWN ****ING LAWS, do you? |
UniqueOne
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.10 10:46:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Xorth Adimus Edited by: Xorth Adimus on 09/07/2011 22:04:35 I was there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-38w7s5Hk
haha awesome.
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Kell Tarhun
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Posted - 2011.07.10 14:22:00 -
[263]
My name is Kell Tarhun
I will remember incarnia not by latest ccp video. I will remember inacarnia because of massive protest in all trade hubs
I was there....I observed players who care about changes to this game, massive protests and response. I was there...I am proud of all those who participated in this protest event. I tell you...I was there
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Narcissus Tombs
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Posted - 2011.07.10 21:03:00 -
[264]
This is just... *facepalm*
The entire "Eve is Real" campaign is ridiculous. It makes you looks like idiots playing D&D wearing homemade robes and trashbin armor.
Eve is a game, it should be treated as such, and while having an active community is nice, don't ever fool yourself into thinking you've made some sort of "Better world".
It's a video game.
A game.
Game.
This is just embarrassing. You need to get away from the volcano fumes and go outside once in a while.
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LLALA
Gallente NOMAD. Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2011.07.10 22:09:00 -
[265]
Well Incarna is out. òWell the Captain Courters are OK "cool gadgets" but not useful so bla. However, I do like the menus that float but they are not predictable in location but a plus in cosmetics and effects.
òBlue prints being different from copies are nice but I do not like the white. Keep them blue and put A RED C in the corner for copy.. simple.
òSome time when I warp, I can't tell the waves we had are often not there anymore.
òThe Icons for the turrets are HORRID. when in flight you cant tell if it is a mud splatter it a ICON they are not very discernable I like the old ones much better.
òTractor beam looks like what to indicate what it is??? the Magnet Icon you had before was much more discernable.
òWhen it come to Icons they must be intuitive easily interpreted.
òThe Maller well you out did yourself Love that.
LLALA
Objective: I am looking around for a good PVP & ISK earning team. Who am I: I am s solution type person meaning I do not look for fault in others, but rather to make the environment better for everyo |
J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.11 01:49:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Narcissus Tombs
The entire "Eve is Real" campaign is ridiculous. It makes you looks like idiots playing D&D wearing homemade robes and trashbin armor.
Eve is indeed Real to thousands of real human beings who come to New Eden on a regular basis. It's a real place for meaningful social interaction, as much as hanging out at the local booze hole is. I love the new campaign and hope it continues. Eve is a virtual world with a game at the center, not just a game. ~Gnosis~ |
Randomize All
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Posted - 2011.07.11 08:44:00 -
[267]
Originally by: Nehmen Geld Edited by: Nehmen Geld on 08/07/2011 11:14:38
Originally by: DeadlyThreat
Originally by: Throatslitter Anyone know why Australia is getting the short end of the stick, again?
Seems unfair, no EVE advertizing here, ever, no boxsets available, and now excluded from competitions.
Other than that, sounds a good idea, I hope it pays off.
Because Australia's contest laws are horrid.
Yeah. Here in Australia we can't do anything without the government wanting to either control us or take our money. Want to drink beer out of a glass or wine out of a bottle after 10pm? Sorry, government says no. Have a plastic cup instead. Want to buy cigarettes? Government says "only in plain white packaging". Want to win some Aurum out of something other than a game of skill, sorry, government says you have to declare it as income... want to breath out? Sorry, government wants $23 for every tonne of CO2 you produce... Australia is so ****ed by the nanny state it's unbelievable. Seriously need an election and a decent party to vote for. If only there was a Goon Party here in Oz. Mittens for PM! lol
Mother figure at the helm. She knows what's best for baby.
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Soddington Smythe
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Posted - 2011.07.11 10:52:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Xorth Adimus Edited by: Xorth Adimus on 09/07/2011 22:04:35 I was there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-38w7s5Hk
Loved it.
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Tinak Genry
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Posted - 2011.07.11 12:18:00 -
[269]
I already have a short story written in character about an aspect of the EVE Cluster that I think would be interesting. Only a few pages, but it should be neat.
I can't wait till we can submit.
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Randomize All
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Posted - 2011.07.11 13:43:00 -
[270]
Don't you understaaaaand? It's Reeeaaal. |
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I SeeU
Gallente Fallen Angel's White Noise.
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Posted - 2011.07.11 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Riley Moore
Why are you showing Galente ships with hybrid guns when they are so broken and you refuse to balance them to be of actual use?
Can you please start balancing/fixing your game before you lure in more players by lies and deceive?
Well you know... i thought a bit the same: "no one flys gallente blaster setups... but it would be so damn cool!" but in fact... they don't lure, they don't lie, they NEED to do marketing to keep the game up and running. And for more fixing, better technology (hardware and software) you need aloooot of people and of course alooooot of money to pay them. I can tell you that i am in that business, too. and no, im no marketing guy. ;)
So i think this is a great way to reach out and let people know about this game and to keep it alive.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.11 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Ranka Mei on 11/07/2011 14:53:28
Originally by: I SeeU Well you know... i thought a bit the same: "no one flys gallente blaster setups... but it would be so damn cool!" but in fact... they don't lure, they don't lie, they NEED to do marketing to keep the game up and running. And for more fixing, better technology (hardware and software) you need aloooot of people and of course alooooot of money to pay them. I can tell you that i am in that business, too. and no, im no marketing guy. ;)
A classic:
Blasters are awesome
-- "All your monies AUR belong to us." -- CCP |
Kerrisone
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Posted - 2011.07.11 21:39:00 -
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Besides this video being a load, and no one at CCP bothering to watch it before they uploaded it I'd like to mention the damn game audio is too loud in comparison to your douche noob explaining how and why he got PTS playing a game.
Also this makes up for the time I wasted watching the CCP video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-38w7s5Hk
Originally by: Ghoest Ill watch what you do not what you say.
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bw8
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Posted - 2011.07.12 02:45:00 -
[274]
I was there...
when EVE was truly all about internet spaceships (as the main focus) being serious business...
I don't recognize it anymore.
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Geo Wahs
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:50:00 -
[275]
Originally by: kyrieee
Originally by: Marlona Sky Not there crew reporting in. What did i miss?
They buffed Gallente
By buff you mean they let us Gallente wear monocles aswell aye ? :P (accepts crumbs from table)
Accuracy thing tho they did not show the Ares fly all the way across 200km space just to get one shotted by a dramiel mounting one gun :)
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Lusulpher
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.12 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Lusulpher on 12/07/2011 10:07:22 EvEwiki deleted?? I thought they were supposed to open that to us years ago[SoonTM]... Oh well, a new EvEwiki certainly won't die like COSMOS...
Also, tell your actors to tone it down. That was far too cheesy. But hope you get new subs, you need them.
Take back what I said about forum not derping anymore. Creative Customer Person 7 |
Scitor Nantom
Minmatar AfterMath.
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Posted - 2011.07.13 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Black Dranzer A marketing campaign and a new web presence.
Good to see you guys are working on what matters.
That was sarcasm, by the way.
Would you like up to the second updates on all that the Devs are doing? Should that suite you well? _______________________________________
For the Republic, For the Minmatar
http://eve.tilt180.com
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Admiral Takia
Caldari Interstellar Waste Management Committee
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Posted - 2011.07.14 17:55:00 -
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I dont know if im the only one here obsessed with trailer music, but honestly, could you pretty pretty please release this track CCP? Its way too addicting in this trailer x.x
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Smoking Blunts
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Posted - 2011.07.16 22:32:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Scitor Nantom
Originally by: Black Dranzer A marketing campaign and a new web presence.
Good to see you guys are working on what matters.
That was sarcasm, by the way.
Would you like up to the second updates on all that the Devs are doing? Should that suite you well?
nah just a server that works would be nice.. eve offline, great game and wroth every $
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EdwardNardella
Capital Construction Research
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Posted - 2011.07.17 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: DEVBLOG It's pretty simple. Early next week a new site is going live; details coming soon.
Either I am blind or it has been over 10 days and no more details have been released. CCRES is recruiting pilots who want to live in WSpace/Wormholes. Fill out an application here! |
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.21 01:54:00 -
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The site is now live in case you've not heard/noticed, and I like it quite a bit. Already shared a few of the better videos. Some of this stuff is really well done and I can't wait to see more and more pile up. It'll be a fun saunter through New Eden when I have a free moment or two. Now what to submit...hmm...guess I have a few months to come up with something. ~Gnosis~ |
Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.07.21 02:44:00 -
[282]
Some of the videos did not work for me.
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Neztruce
Minmatar Salubrious Port Authority
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Posted - 2011.07.21 14:07:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Scitor Nantom
Originally by: Black Dranzer A marketing campaign and a new web presence.
Good to see you guys are working on what matters.
That was sarcasm, by the way.
Would you like up to the second updates on all that the Devs are doing? Should that suite you well?
I wouldn't like them.
I demand them.
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IceGuerilla
Amarr Poseidon's Wingmen Perihelion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.23 11:40:00 -
[284]
I actually do have something pretty cool to post, but I can't see how to post text.
Maybe I'm a colossal idiot, but I can't see where you're actually supposed to post it. |
Dyner
Minmatar Midgard Protectorate
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Posted - 2011.07.23 12:34:00 -
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I like how the new site times out ; hell even Google Cache won't display it ----------------
Originally by: Ghoest Ill watch what you do not what you say.
Originally by: Kronus Heilgar
You are charging people who work for free to make your game better you asshats
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Pasadenasman
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Posted - 2011.07.25 09:08:00 -
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EvE is real. CCP is false. You just prove at showing a gallentean blaster fleet. (lolfleet?)
Do you know with a couple of curse this ridiculous fleet will DIAF ? That is real.
Epic slow boat + Lol short range gun + fail ammu = Last CCP's video thrailer.
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Monotribe
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Posted - 2011.07.27 12:59:00 -
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allow adobe flash on igb? eve only real oog?
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Davina Sienar
The Misinterpretation of Silence Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2011.08.21 07:59:00 -
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It still sucks that the pictures are in that mini size
not even worth to take some effort to upload a pict that is then a thumbnail ^^
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