If you're going to compare long range guns and HMLs, use the long range tech II ammo in the HML too.

Have you ever seen that actually done?

Ok, the cane got a nerf and it deserved it.

But why does the Drake get a buff? (less shields, more gank)

Drakes will be even more op than now...

/me is sad

Why does CCP hate my nighthawk? What did it ever do to you? D:

The makers of Ben and Jerry Ice Cream became aware that their Chunky Monkey brand of Ice Cream was outselling all their other flavours. It seemed everybody wanted to eat Chunky Monkey because it was so delicious. But Ben and Jerry wanted their other brands to be just as good as Chunky Monkey so that everybody could enjoy them. So Ben and Jerry went and took a **** in their next batch of Chunky Monkey. When asked why would they do this, they answered:

"It was just so much easier to make Chunky Monkey taste like **** than to make the other flavours taste better."

CCP went to the Ben and Jerry School of Product Design.

With the plethora of evidence you've submitted to support this claim, I don't know how we could ever have doubted this. Thank you, Roime, for helping us all see the clear light of day.

LOL sums up this nerf perfectly.

LOL sums up this nerf perfectly.

Yes, exactly. Many thanks for providing this. As you can see in the graph, heavy missiles pretty much dominate this range class of weapons, with the only weapons system providing any advantage at all being railguns on a Ferox - and at a huge DPS hit to achieve this.

If you run the same graph after the changes Fozzie is proposing, you will see that there are now actual advantages to using other weapons besides HML at these ranges.

Heavy Missiles
-Base flight time reduced by 30%
-Base velocity increased by 6.66%
-In total, base range reduced by ~25%
-Damage decreased by 20% (rounded to closest digit)
-Affects all variant Heavy missiles, including FOF.


Tracking/Range Mods and Ewar
-Modify tracking enhancers and tracking computers to affect:
Max flight time (with optimal range script)
Explosion radius and explosion velocity (with tracking speed script)
-Make TDs affect Missiles
Tracking speed disruption script lowers explosion velocity and increases explosion radius
Optimal range disruption script lowers flight time

Y'know, on the plus side I will never have to worry about facing a Drake with my Merlin ever again. Just have to pop 5 light drones and I'm set.

HML Drake? LOL I can tank your crap damage.

HAM Drake? LOL your explosion radius and velocity can't touch me.

Doesn't matter what range I come in at. I can beeline straight at the Drake without a worry at all. Could never do that against an Arty Cane, Beam Harbie, or Rail Boat. And by the looks of it, even Precision missiles won't be to much of a threat.

Truly, this is gonna be a golden age of comedy killmails.

To some extend. most of the time you will be using the bonused missiles.

about that range nerv...
nobody wrote something about the one small little problem all missle based weapons share:
there is NO falloff, if your target is just one little millimeter out of range you're doing how much dmg?
Right: Zero.

-Damage decreased by 20% (rounded to closest digit)

Just noticed this! Holy crap CCP, 20% nerf to damage and 25% nerf to range?!

Open EFT or pyfa, test it out for yourself.

HMLs currently not only have almost 30% higher base damage, they also hit at 100% damage every time against BCs and larger, moving or not.

Also, chance to hit. Did you know that in addition to transversal, sig, falloff and vulnerability to TDs, turrets are rolled against a random number on every hit? Turrets can miss, how cool is that!

Now missiles have equal range and damage, but they still hit every single time.

So ITT "boohoo, my medium-sized LR weapon system is not completely and utterly insanely OP anymore"