So many people in here who just have no friggin clue about gas mining.

Mining needs some love? Seriously? 2/10 bro, poor troll. (Hint: there was an exhumer buff)

Also it's completely obvious that between the cloak and the frigate speed / agility this ship would have plenty of chances to "dodge pvp" without needing a WCS bonus.

What do you guys think about my idea for a new mod?

Remote harvesting link
Description: a remote projection device that reduces the targets gas harvestor cycle time. Can only be fitted to the ORE frigate.

+ reduces harvestor cycle time by 10%
+ 5km optimal range
+ only one of these modules can be used on the target ship
+ uses mid slot

The key thing is that it creates a reason to mine in a group which would also be a nicer target for hunters.

I like the idea of having a module to help with gas harvesting, but I wouldn't call it "remote" (e.g. remote armor rep, remote shield transfer, remote sensor booster) -- 'remote' items tend to be the 'help the other ship' types.

If CCP wanted to make that optional by allowing players to fit them or not as they please AND retain all other capabilities

Hello folks,

This topic is about the ORE frigate coming out this winter. While its concept art can be seen in the Ship Balancing Summer Update blog and some speculation has already started, time has come to talk about it in details.

Designed as an entry mining ship, it will replace the old 4 mining frigates in the Industry Career Path (the Tormentor, Bantam, Navitas and Burst). Compared to them, it has a much improved mining output, capacitor reliance and mobility, while having a decent 5000m3 ore hold. Its purpose is to be a fast hull capable of mining in hostile space (even if the current value of high-sec ores defeats this quite a bit, but that's another problem). It also serves as a gas harvester, a profession that was lacking love until now. With its +2 warp core strength bonus, it should stand a fair chance of doing its job in low-security space without being instantly tackled and killed.

It also comes with a brand new skill, mining frigate, rank 2. Further down the drain we will change mining barge skill requirements to need mining frigate at 4, but not for winter - we'll most likely do that at the same time as the Destroyer and Battlecruiser skill changes to minimize training issues and complications. Again, since its the entry ship for mining, expect the market price to be low.


Mining frigate skill bonuses:
+5% to mining yield per level
+5% to gas harvesting yield per level
Role bonuses:
+100% to mining yield
+100% to gas harvesting yield
+ 2 warp core stabilizer bonus
Slot layout: 3 H, 3 M, 1 L, 2 turrets
Fittings: 45 PWG, 240 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 225 / 175 / 200
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 250 / 125s / 2
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 335 / 3.6 / 1200000 / 4.04s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 10 / 10
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 15km / 750 / 5
Sensor strength: 4 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 40
Cargo capacity: 50
Ore hold: 5000


Constructive comments are welcome

WH gassers are going to love this.

^^ Hey, someone actually gets it!

This is a NEWBIE FOCUSED MINING FRIGATE, which also happens to have a gas bonus, so that once the newbies move on from this frigate into a barge (which doesn't take long at all), the ship won't be totally useless.

Name ideas:

Annexer, collector, securer, ransacker, recoverer, inheriter

Hey folks, just quickly passing by to tell you the Gas Cloud Harvesting amount bonus on this ship has been swapped for a Gas Cloud Harvesting duration reduction to account for your comments on the skill progression that didn't scale well. It also makes the ship a bit more viable with fully trained skills, as it increases its output from 5 theoretical gas harvesters to 5.33.

Hey folks, just quickly passing by to tell you the Gas Cloud Harvesting amount bonus on this ship has been swapped for a Gas Cloud Harvesting duration reduction to account for your comments on the skill progression that didn't scale well. It also makes the ship a bit more viable with fully trained skills, as it increases its output from 5 theoretical gas harvesters to 5.33.

How many newbies do you actually know that would drop 22 mill on a Gas Cloud Harvesting skill book?

Hey folks, just quickly passing by to tell you the Gas Cloud Harvesting amount bonus on this ship has been swapped for a Gas Cloud Harvesting duration reduction to account for your comments on the skill progression that didn't scale well. It also makes the ship a bit more viable with fully trained skills, as it increases its output from 5 theoretical gas harvesters to 5.33.

A ship with 3 hardpoints on the model but 2 in the info is ugly. BLAH.

Don't be so cheap, it's a noobie miner anyway. Or make it withh 3 turrets but reduce the bonus. Or at least add 1 missile hardpoint, so it'll not be so ugly with an empty hardpoint.

Hello folks, Constructive comments are welcome

And yes, folks, despite its name, gas is automatically harvested into the Ore hold. Wanted to file a bug report to CCP Tuxford in case it didn't, but he was quite clever and implemented that ahead of time during the mining barge changes Clever girl.

gas takes very little space you know

If this frigate becomes EVE's best gas-sucking ship, then where is the worthwhileness of training the Gas Mining skill above 2? Lots of players have already trained it to 4 or even 5, and if you don't give them a gas mining ship that allows them to utilize that high skill, they're going to be upset.

I'd also like to hear about the rounding down issue with regards to gas amounts. Will it actually work as intended, with the full +150% bonus, or will it round down and screw us?