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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
682
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Posted - 2012.10.02 04:44:00 -
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gas harvesting to 5, so you can fit T2 harvesters and double your yield? FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |

Rio Bravo
Union Energy
5
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Posted - 2012.10.02 15:42:00 -
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Yeah, cycle time works too. Very nice! Can't wait to drive one. I won't even bother responding to the blatant trolling of my previous posts. People figured you out a long time ago... |

Rio Bravo
Union Energy
5
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Posted - 2012.10.02 18:30:00 -
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Warde Guildencrantz wrote:Name ideas:
Annexer, collector, securer, ransacker, recoverer, inheriter
Yeah out of the list you have there, I like Annexer, Collector, Securer, Recoverer, and Inheriter. They all kind of follow the rest of the mining naming convention. Be neat to see whats come up with when its released. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1049
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:35:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Designed as an entry mining ship, it will replace the old 4 mining frigates in the Industry Career Path (the Tormentor, Bantam, Navitas and Burst). Compared to them, it has a much improved mining output, capacitor reliance and mobility, while having a decent 5000m3 ore hold. Its purpose is to be a fast hull capable of mining in hostile space (even if the current value of high-sec ores defeats this quite a bit, but that's another problem). It also serves as a gas harvester, a profession that was lacking love until now. With its +2 warp core strength bonus, it should stand a fair chance of doing its job in low-security space without being instantly tackled and killed.
Thank god at least someone in CCP recognizes it. |

Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
240
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Posted - 2012.10.02 21:56:00 -
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Any word as to the change to cycle time for harvesting gas over yeild per level? Cause, a thorax can still out harvest an ORE Frig for gas sites in a wormhole. There just isn't anything intresting on the front page of the GD anymore. Yawn! |

Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
156
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Posted - 2012.10.02 22:10:00 -
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Acac Sunflyier wrote:Any word as to the change to cycle time for harvesting gas over yeild per level? Cause, a thorax can still out harvest an ORE Frig for gas sites in a wormhole. Is it really that hard to look on the previous pages?
For those not wanting to look for it, it's on the previous page ... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1989973#post1989973
CCP Ytterbium wrote:Hey folks, just quickly passing by to tell you the Gas Cloud Harvesting amount bonus on this ship has been swapped for a Gas Cloud Harvesting duration reduction to account for your comments on the skill progression that didn't scale well. It also makes the ship a bit more viable with fully trained skills, as it increases its output from 5 theoretical gas harvesters to 5.33.
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Tarn Kugisa
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
155
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:43:00 -
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I wanna see someone do a video of a bunch of these frigs swarming a gas site to the tune of 'ride of the valkyries'
you know, for fun I Endorse this Product and/or Service Source Recorder-esque tool for EVE |

Garrett Herveaux
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.03 04:24:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:... it should not be the best at everything regarding gas or we would be falling back into the old Hulk case all over again 
Wait a second! Am I missing something here, Ytterbium? I know there has been a crazy amount of rebalancing going on here, so maybe I missed it?.. Did you rebalance something bigger to handle more gas that I've just missed? Or is this hinting at a new gas harvester? |

Brego Tralowski
T1 Module Supplies.
63
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Posted - 2012.10.03 04:36:00 -
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Thanks for this CCP - another new toy to build for the masses.
Supplying Quality goods to the masses.
See 'T1 Module supplies' for all your T1 needs or T1.com in game chat. |

Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
156
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Posted - 2012.10.03 15:33:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Hey folks, just quickly passing by to tell you the Gas Cloud Harvesting amount bonus on this ship has been swapped for a Gas Cloud Harvesting duration reduction to account for your comments on the skill progression that didn't scale well. It also makes the ship a bit more viable with fully trained skills, as it increases its output from 5 theoretical gas harvesters to 5.33. Given that you're giving a cycle time reduction now, how will the specific OP bonuses be worded?
CCP Ytterbium wrote:Mining frigate skill bonuses: +5% to mining yield per level +5% to gas harvesting yield per level Role bonuses: +100% to mining yield +100% to gas harvesting yield + 2 warp core stabilizer bonus If it is just the hull bonus is being udpated, would this now be correct?
Mining frigate skill bonuses: +5% to mining yield per level -5% to gas harvesting cycle time per level
Thanks! HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression - The only way to go! |
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Caliguard Donnes
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.04 07:25:00 -
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Something that has been said multiple times, but has yet to be understood by many, is this is NOT a ship that is even designed to be min/maxed. It's a noob miner that can be flown 'effectively' on day 3 of a new characters life. That's impressive in itself. As for the gas, again, stop thinking of using this in nullsec - it's not for there.
I can easily see that the first time most new players will fit a gas harvester on this thing, it will be a part of a mission from a mining agent (there ARE gas harvesting missions). That will likely be what gets noobs interested in the skills required to huff fumes, and THEN, since they have the skills, will start looking for fumes that can make some isk. That will put an early interest in low-sec, potentially bringing a few noobs out there in the wilds - in ships that are cheap enough to not sting so badly when the get stomped back to the safety of high-sec. |

Alx Warlord
Security Task Force
172
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Posted - 2012.10.05 00:41:00 -
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WHAT WILL BE THE NAME OF IT!?!?
DIgger? Excavator? Schriba? etc? [Discussion] - New POS system ( Construction Block Built - Starbasecraft) <<< Please CCP read this! |

Maevelynne Aihaken
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.05 02:44:00 -
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The more I look at this thing and read up on everyone elses comments the more I think that the ship would serve alot better as a destroyer hull instead of a frigate. You still have the ability to get it extremely early in the game, however on a destroyer you can make it work at higher lvls of gameplay. Along the lines of one of the reasons for the change to the mining ships was to make them all viable. It also makes sense in that the minning barges aren't exactly cruiser hulls. Maybe the Procurer, but the hulk is more along the lines of a battlecruiser. Obviously there would be a little bit more tweaking needed to the ship but this removes the need fill in a destroyer hull into the ORE mix. Again these aren't combatant ships so why have them fill out the frigate, destroyer, cruiser, etc. progression.
Anyways my two cents. |

Lathera Hen
Nakama Gemini Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.06 10:53:00 -
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any word on when will we be able to test this lovely ship out on the tests servers...? |

Salpun
Paramount Commerce
386
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Posted - 2012.10.06 11:14:00 -
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Lathera Hen wrote:any word on when will we be able to test this lovely ship out on the tests servers...? After the 19th at the earliest. |

Lathera Hen
Nakama Gemini Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.06 11:40:00 -
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Salpun wrote:Lathera Hen wrote:any word on when will we be able to test this lovely ship out on the tests servers...? After the 19th at the earliest.
thank you.... i thing im gona go nuts untill then.... gona go my stray jacet |

Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2012.10.07 03:26:00 -
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Name suggestion: Prospector. |

Klingon Admiral
Black Hole Cluster
11
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Posted - 2012.10.07 21:36:00 -
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Will the bpo of this little gem only be seeded in ORE-stations, like the other ORE-ships? |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
689
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Posted - 2012.10.08 03:17:00 -
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Klingon Admiral wrote:Will the bpo of this little gem only be seeded in ORE-stations, like the other ORE-ships?
Possibly. But from what was said, you'll be able to pick up the ship by doing the tutorial for mining. so if you've not already done it, that's up to 12 of them. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |

Savira Terrant
Valhollr
9
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Posted - 2012.10.08 10:26:00 -
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Are we finished with that "+2 warp strength is overpowered" discussion yet? Cause I think we should not be! Cause it is!  |
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Lathera Hen
Nakama Gemini Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.08 11:06:00 -
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i think its a way to balence out a situation where miners are getiing ganked at increesing frequency, and the supply chain for rare matirials is getting dirupted to much, the +2 wcs will on some lvl balence it out a bit so that some epiriansed miners will be able to increese suplly of those matirials |

Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
156
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:07:00 -
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Savira Terrant wrote:Are we finished with that "+2 warp strength is overpowered" discussion yet? Cause I think we should not be! Cause it is!  Waaa. Ganker tears, best tears.
If I recall correctly, when the Barge changes were being made, the Miners were all up-in-arms over some of the various changes and the PvPrs and wanna-be gankers (not to be confused with each other) told them to harden up.
Well, harden up buddy and quit whining. HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression - The only way to go! |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
26
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:46:00 -
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I should remind you that the best things to have in EvE are friends; a Scram and a point will stop one of these if they aren't fitting stabs and a HIC will stop ANYTHING that's not a supercap, and can be scripted to affect one target instead of an area so you can grab things in lowsec.
Gankers are just gonna have to harden the **** up. |

Lifelongnoob
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
13
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Posted - 2012.10.10 10:01:00 -
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Hi CCP,
Can you make a new ORE frig variant that gets a bonus to gas harvesters too please? |

Teshania
Aliastra Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.10.10 12:54:00 -
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Loving the looks of this!.
For those Crying about +2 warp strength. Don't worry about it, When it comes to ganking these things, its all about catching them off guard, which is easy to do considering its targeting new pilots as captains. These ships well still make your killboards. |

Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
176
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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:25:00 -
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It occurs to me that the gas mining bonus shows a need to adjust what the gas mining skill does.
I don't have any specific suggestion, but unless a barge-class gas miner is in planning there will be no reason for anyone to train gas mining past level 2. |

Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
156
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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:28:00 -
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Buzzy Warstl wrote:It occurs to me that the gas mining bonus shows a need to adjust what the gas mining skill does.
I don't have any specific suggestion, but unless a barge-class gas miner is in planning there will be no reason for anyone to train gas mining past level 2. T2 Harvestors - completely worth it (IMO). HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression - The only way to go! |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
697
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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:46:00 -
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Infinite Force wrote:Buzzy Warstl wrote:It occurs to me that the gas mining bonus shows a need to adjust what the gas mining skill does.
I don't have any specific suggestion, but unless a barge-class gas miner is in planning there will be no reason for anyone to train gas mining past level 2. T2 Harvestors - completely worth it (IMO).
Doubling your yield? Sounds worth it to me. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
725
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Posted - 2012.10.11 02:32:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Infinite Force wrote:T2 Harvestors - completely worth it (IMO). Doubling your yield? Sounds worth it to me. Also, it's a rank 1 skill and thus a no-brainer. Honestly, spend the +/-4days to max it. Nothing Found |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
281
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:51:00 -
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How long are noobie miners gonna stay in game when they are permajammed by guristas in thier sensor strngth 4 frigs (at least in cal space). That is almost half that of the bantam so nearly twice as much jamming. |
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