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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:05:00 -
[1081]
Tranquility needs more WCS fitted.
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Inacio Fonseck
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:06:00 -
[1082]
 Originally by: Ikvar
Tranquility needs more WCS fitted.
or some named TCP/IP stack boosters 
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RShade
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:06:00 -
[1083]
Heh.. yea can i get that lost skill point training time back? ;) it was only about an hours worth, This time. Glad its back up. good work ccp.
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Lota Eterna
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:07:00 -
[1084]
So is it really back this time? Or should I start a level 5 skill?
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Static Ga'lraith
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:08:00 -
[1085]
Edited by: Static Ga''lraith on 26/03/2005 17:08:42
*Insert completely unrelated post here*
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Juniper
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:09:00 -
[1086]
Start a level 5 skill. I just did.
-- Gotta sell my stuff...
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dimiz
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:12:00 -
[1087]
Originally by: hugodrax
Is this typical? I just signed up yesterday and I dont usually play long stretches but it seems that its down more than it is up. That would suck since I have limited time to play games and if the times I choose the servers are always down I guess it is time to move on.
no, this is highly irregular. never had this big problems since the roll-out of exodus.
last night, it was quite funny. pop in, move two jumps, pop out again and read the funny comments. it has however stopped being funny for some time now.
i understand that they are working like crazy to fix it, and they must be under a lot of pressure, and me saying "hey, fix it already!" would be moronic. like in "no s*** Sherlock".
however. it's not like it can't be done well. there are onlime games that work much better and seldomly get these problems. one guess would be that they are suffering from growing problems - started small, still having hardware / software / policies for small, it can be difficult as requirements grow and the existing infrastructure starts to approach the limit. I know it is very difficult and most of all extremely expensive to go from a "quick-fix it works" solution to "always works no matter what". I'm not saying they absolutely should do it, maybe they can get away without doing it. But they should consider it. Having the servers bomb out on a weekend like this can be quite damaging.
It may sound like I'm wearing a tin-foil hat, but I wouldn't completely exclude the thought of some form of sabotage. Caldari or other.
However. A good infrastructure, made by people with experience in demanding network applications, should survive sabotage, power failures, server melt-down and other such issues, with at most one or two hours off-time. But that again is very very expensive. The last ten procent are always much more expensive than the first ninety. So in conclusion, I don't know. Just some thoughts.
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Skogen Gump
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:12:00 -
[1088]
Edited by: Skogen Gump on 26/03/2005 17:11:42
Originally by: kbuk
From official posts ages ago CCP use M$ SQL on multiprocessor servers.
Have you seen the licence costs associated with that.
There are multiple licensing models for SQL Server, if CCP use the same one that we do, you pay more up front but you can have as many users as you like. Its called a processor License ... to quote directly from Microsoft
Quote:
Processor license. Requires a single license for each CPU in the operating system instance running SQL Server. This license does not require any device or user client access licenses (CALs).
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yanshi
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:13:00 -
[1089]
someone must be out of their mind to read all that text in the EULA. too much reading. u go nuts. lol.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:14:00 -
[1090]
Discussions regarding the EULA is really off topic, and I can't answer any of those questions because they're not something I know much about. 
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Skogen Gump
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:15:00 -
[1091]
Originally by: yanshi
someone must be out of their mind to read all that text in the EULA. too much reading. u go nuts. lol.
I try to make a point of reading anything that involves me spending money :P
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kbuk
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:16:00 -
[1092]
Originally by: HRH Elvez
Re: EULA actualy the EULA I signed was unreable due to font corruption.......... ;-)
Howmany EULA's have stood up in court. There are usually a bunch of 'illegal' statemants (contractually speaking) in most EULA's that are there purely to scare people out of taking legal action. No I haven't gone through CCP's EULA with a fine tooth comb to check the exact legalities of it. As yet I haven't been annoyed enough to.
Not to mention that CCP has changed the EULA on more than one occasion and while yes you have the right to terminate your account, most people have invested considerable time and older players such as myself money into the game, so the option to simply stop paying doesn't cut it.
A Simple
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Olimpia
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:16:00 -
[1093]
Edited by: Olimpia on 26/03/2005 17:16:52
2005.03.26 15:24:18 combat Your Tachyon Beam Laser II perfectly strikes CCP
Headquarters, wrecking for 1291.3 damage.
Opppssss.... sorry... it was me 
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Skogen Gump
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:16:00 -
[1094]
Originally by: Wrangler
Discussions regarding the EULA is off topic, and I can't answer any of those questions because they're not something I know much about.
You started it !
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Lanu
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:17:00 -
[1095]
Edited by: Lanu on 26/03/2005 17:18:28
Edited by: Lanu on 26/03/2005 17:17:21
I'm getting iritated by all those devs/ISD's that say " Hello , sorry we ****** up thanks for your patience " . Just say what went wrong and get the server back up as fast as possible.
boo
"You are most like the Cat, lazy and quiet. You aren't very exciting yet everyone notices your presence."
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Juniper
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:18:00 -
[1096]
Originally by: yanshi
someone must be out of their mind to read all that text in the EULA. too much reading. u go nuts. lol.
That's the general idea - that's why they're written that way. Your first, automatic reaction is just to say "Ah, !^%& it" and scroll to the end and accept / sign / whatever. Then, when something goes wrong, like it has done today, companies (like CCP) who use the EULA concept can just point at this pseudo-legalese document and say "We're not obliged to give you squat".
Just the way the world works unfortunately. 
-- Gotta sell my stuff...
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:18:00 -
[1097]
Originally by: Skogen Gump
Originally by: Wrangler
Discussions regarding the EULA is off topic, and I can't answer any of those questions because they're not something I know much about.
You started it !
Yea, thats fine, blame me 
But really, if you wish to discuss the EULA; please start another thread dedicated to that discussion.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:20:00 -
[1098]
Originally by: Lanu
Edited by: Lanu on 26/03/2005 17:17:21
I'm getting iritated by all those devs/ISD's that say " Hello , sorry we <stupid things> thanks for your patience " . Just say what went wrong and get the server back up as fast as possible.
As I've also said, you have all the information I have, as soon as anyone tells me more I'll tell you more.
But to be honest I think that they will investigate it and then post some news on what exactly went wrong and why. This kind of information will most likely come from CCP directly and not me.
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Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:22:00 -
[1099]
Originally by: kbuk
Originally by: HRH Elvez
Re: EULA actualy the EULA I signed was unreable due to font corruption.......... ;-)
Howmany EULA's have stood up in court. There are usually a bunch of 'illegal' statemants (contractually speaking) in most EULA's that are there purely to scare people out of taking legal action. No I haven't gone through CCP's EULA with a fine tooth comb to check the exact legalities of it. As yet I haven't been annoyed enough to.
Not to mention that CCP has changed the EULA on more than one occasion and while yes you have the right to terminate your account, most people have invested considerable time and older players such as myself money into the game, so the option to simply stop paying doesn't cut it.
A Simple
The contract of the EULA would be legally binding in the UK so long as the terms are not proven to be unfair due to the position of one contracting party over the other, at least as far as I know.
The US might be different, but their legal system is a mess anyway, at least from what little of it we see in the news in the UK.
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Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:24:00 -
[1100]
Originally by: Juniper
Originally by: yanshi
someone must be out of their mind to read all that text in the EULA. too much reading. u go nuts. lol.
That's the general idea - that's why they're written that way. Your first, automatic reaction is just to say "Ah, !^%& it" and scroll to the end and accept / sign / whatever. Then, when something goes wrong, like it has done today, companies (like CCP) who use the EULA concept can just point at this pseudo-legalese document and say "We're not obliged to give you squat".
Just the way the world works unfortunately.
If we didn't live in a selfish 'my rights' compensation culture, they wouldn't need so many documents to outline exactly what they do and don't cover. 
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kbuk
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:25:00 -
[1101]
Originally by: Wrangler
As I've also said, you have all the information I have, as soon as anyone tells me more I'll tell you more.
But to be honest I think that they will investigate it and then post some news on what exactly went wrong and why. This kind of information will most likely come from CCP directly and not me.
the news board is a great place for that sort of info. It isn't going to get lost with all the comments players are making
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RShade
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:26:00 -
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Heres what will make me happy and make up for the down time.. How about one of those nice fast weaponless polaris ships huh? That really sleek lookin polaris scout ship would be a nice present :) Wouldnt use it for fighting.. just traveling around quick! :)
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:27:00 -
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I must admit the server issues are a pain in the ass but overall they are moderately rare. The biggest annoyance is lack of information for most people.
I think we all agree that if CCP would at least put a regular update on the problems on the site then we'd all be a little less p'eed off. Even if it was simply a 30 minute update to say Phoned server bloke in London, found out he'd spilt coffee on machine then gone on a long Bank Holiday weekend trip.
Seriously though I do think wwe need updates made regularly.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: RShade
Heres what will make me happy and make up for the down time.. How about one of those nice fast weaponless polaris ships huh? That really sleek lookin polaris scout ship would be a nice present :) Wouldnt use it for fighting.. just traveling around quick! :)
That can be easily fixed, all you need to do is volunteer to do some work for ISD, and you'd get your own Polaris ship. Provided you pass the application and interview(s).
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MachZERO
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:28:00 -
[1105]
Originally by: Valentine Keen
The US might be different, but their legal system is a mess anyway, at least from what little of it we see in the news in the UK.
meh... sad but true...
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Something no one wants in eve. Pray that it never comes. They are locusts... You've been warned...
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Sivlar
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:28:00 -
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Well, I have now been playing Eve for a month and the downtime on this MMO is a joke. Server connection troubles since the day I started, now the damn thing has been down for 2 days. I am half tempted to move back the DAOC. They never had any server troubles on the scale this game has...
The more I play this game the more it seems like an unfinished crappy beta. So many things just have not even been implemented in game yet. I keep asking questions about stuff, and the reply I always get is "not in game yet". Along with the connection problems this game is really starting to make me think twice about wasting my money on it...
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Gaiku
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:29:00 -
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I'm ok with the servers going down, its not a huge deal for me at all. Hell the WoW server I played on went out for almost two weeks, and my FFXI server (while back) went out for days at a time.
My only complaint is that it really does like like, "Reboot and Pray" tech solution.
CCP, if it isnt fixed, thats ok, these freaks can finally take a shower, God forbid, go as far as to clean. The people here that say, "OMGWTFHAX, UNSUBSCRIBE, REINBURSE ME, I PAY, WHERES THE SERVICE?" obviously have never been to an auto-mechanics.
But, CCP, if it isnt fixed, please just make a news post about it, make the servers unavailable, so that we stop getting second by second updates on what people see when the click the "Connect" button 400 times a min.
Right now it looks like your tech guys have no idea what is wrong, which means its time for some personnel performance reviews. 
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Skogen Gump
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:29:00 -
[1108]
Originally by: Valentine Keen
The contract of the EULA would be legally binding in the UK so long as ...*snip*
Yes, But only as long as you AGREE to the EULA. Thats why its called an End User License Agreement, not an End User License With No Right To Refuse or just simply an End User License.
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MachZERO
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:30:00 -
[1109]
Edited by: MachZERO on 26/03/2005 17:31:11
Originally by: Sivlar
Well, I have now been playing Eve for a month and the downtime on this MMO is a joke. Server connection troubles since the day I started, now the damn thing has been down for 2 days. I am half tempted to move back the DAOC. They never had any server troubles on the scale this game has...
The more I play this game the more it seems like an unfinished crappy beta. So many things just have not even been implemented in game yet. I keep asking questions about stuff, and the reply I always get is "not in game yet". Along with the connection problems this game is really starting to make me think twice about wasting my money on it...
 escrow your stuff on the way out, please...
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"Rang Rang"
Something no one wants in eve. Pray that it never comes. They are locusts... You've been warned...
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RShade
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:30:00 -
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Heh.. ok i was tryin for easy route, but anyway :) I may eventually do that. I want to get a little more eve time under my belt, and just learn and understand how things work first before i try out for ISD or anything like that.
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