Stat tweaks are great, but I urge you to keep looking at the core ECM mechanic itself, rather than simply its application. I still love reducing jam length with sensor strength, bringing ECM into more of a lock-breaker role that can be combined with Scan resolution dampening to create a synergistic permajam effect that relies on player skill, not slot machine probability to be effective.

Making ECM drones break locks only would be a great place to start, as they'd be a nuisance at the 1 vs 1 level but not completely imbalance a fight, and could scale up to a fleet level where a CLOUD of drones can create the permajam effect, but not a simple wing of EC-300's.

I'd also look at the sensor damp drones at this time too, there might be a tweak or two there that can make them more viable and dovetail well with the rest of the iterations you're working on here.

Also, as we've discussed internally, you really need to address the scannability factor in conjunction with increasing sensor strength through skills, if thats the way you go. Having a penalty built into command links would be a great place to start, but command ships are by no means the only ships that people want to hide from probes, so please consider this if you must go with a skill buff so we're not fixing one problem only to create another.

most people plate falcons or rooks

Just remove ECM Caldari completely.

Damps will still be useless.

Fixed that for you.

Any chance on making the signal distortion amplifier effect all forms or E-War and not just ECM?

Most falcons I've seen have been DC tanked, followed by armor tanked (as have most Griffins, Blackbirds and Scorpions). I've never actually seen a Rook in combat. My point is that aside from Griffins/Kitsunes, ECM pilots make a deliberate choice to forgo a decent tank in favor of MOAR JAMS, because ECM at a distance is a better tank than actual tank modules.

Fixed that for you.

If ECM drones are not being addressed that's a real pity. Currently fitting a cloud of light ECM drones is an adequate alternative to bringing an actual jamming ship.

I am very much of the mind that ECM drones should reduce sensor strength with a stacking penalty, not actually jam on their own. They should not be a viable escape mechanism, but they should be a useful tool to complement a dedicated ECM ship.

Are you implying that without ECM in its current form Caldari has a worthless ship lineup? Are you seriously saying this?? Do you even play the game????

I like that Damps are getting fixed... but they can be really farking annoying. Unlike ECM, they almost never miss. Damps won't miss either way after this.

ECM
*Reduce Optimal Range and Falloff of all ECM modules by 10%

*Add four new racial sensor compensation skills that increase each type of Sensor Strength by 5% per level (Requires Electronics 4, rank 3 skills in the Electronics category)

Still way to powerfull, even whith skills at lv3 and lv1 ewar drone you can permajam anyone(in a griffin!). Strenght and Cykle time is what you need to adjust! And why all Ecm- drones have the same stats after all these years i dunno.



Good idea but it wont help when a fully skilled falcon uncloaks and gets lock on anything whitin range. + for effort tho!

The ewar changes combined with the damp changes make ewar pretty ****** compared to damps and TDs.

Its damps now that **** you over, when a celestis can damp your solo drake/jaguar/whatever to beneath scram range.

I like making unbonused ships using ECM less effective, and feel that's a good change. I also like the range tweak to damps, which for many pilots using them essentially translates to a strength bonus, given that I see many damp using ships using their EWAR well into that EWAR's current falloff range.

I'm more of a fan of a sensor strength skill that affects all ships with a higher rank attached to the skill. That said, I'm also more of a fan of nerfing ECM strength across the board rather than requiring pilots to devote skill training to nerfing the effects of that EWAR.

By the way: I also object to nerfing ECM via ECCM strength skills. In my opinion, the long term goal should be to rework ECM completely because the "all or nothing" mechanic isn't fun. Nerfing ECM as short term fix is fine, but doing it via new skills doesn't make sense. In fact, I'm slightly worried that these new skills mean ECM is always going to stay ECM.

well you have to remember that the other e-war has skills that help against them so it is long overdue and as fozzie said only part of the solution they are working on.
i know its painful having to wait for so long for just some of the things that need fixing but at least they are doing it..

ECM
*Reduce Optimal Range and Falloff of all ECM modules by 10%
*Add to the Optimal Range and Falloff bonus on ECM range bonused ships by 2.5% for the Blackbird and Tengu Obfuscation Manifold (bringing it to 12.5%) and 5% for the Scorpion (bringing it to 25%)
*Add four new racial sensor compensation skills that increase each type of Sensor Strength by 5% per level (Requires Electronics 4, rank 3 skills in the Electronics category)
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Target Painter
*Set the TP strength bonus on TP bonused ships to 7.5% per level for T1 and 10% per level for T2

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We also want to reiterate that we are not looking at these ecm changes as a complete solution to the problems with that mechanic. It's a moderate change that we can make with the resources available for this expansion and that won't get in the way of our more comprehensive changes down the road.