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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
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Posted - 2012.11.15 08:16:00 -
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The problem:
Everytime I look for a character on the Bazaar he turns out to be a corp thief or otherwise unwelcome.
Solution:
Offer paid name changes that include a full history wipe.
$100 per character, would reduce abuse of the mechanic, maybe even only allow it on transferred characters.
The Bazaar is not nearly as awesome as it could be, make it that awesome! (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
dexington
Push button receive bacon
151
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Posted - 2012.11.15 08:22:00 -
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Having a hard time selling your character? GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
239
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Posted - 2012.11.15 08:30:00 -
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What about $1000 per character? |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
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Posted - 2012.11.15 08:35:00 -
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I believe you've forgot to wear your monocle.
P.S. PLEX could be sufficient for each service. |
MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
175
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Posted - 2012.11.15 08:42:00 -
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$100 is too much for it, how about a swimming pool? |
Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
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Posted - 2012.11.15 08:46:00 -
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What, this again, how many times do we have to...
Oh...
/supported
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Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
802
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Posted - 2012.11.15 08:46:00 -
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how about no, scott |
Karn Dulake
Sad Flutes
997
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Posted - 2012.11.15 08:56:00 -
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One night with Hilmar should be the price
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Grog Barrel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:06:00 -
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A world without repercussions? Sounds ****** to be honest. |
Braxus Deninard
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
72
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:08:00 -
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Posting in yet another ****** Tom Gerard thread. |
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
79
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:28:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:P.S. PLEX could / should be sufficient for name change service. Sure, so every corp thief can just pay with scammed in-game currency to wipe the slate clean
The bazaar isn't supposed to be a recycling bin for scammers. If somone ruined his character's reputation, to the point were it is un-sellable; deal with it. I'm sure the tears harvested while ruining said rep will be of some comfort
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ISD Praetoxx
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
634
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:32:00 -
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Guys, please try stay on-topic and avoid the trolling.
I know it is hard for some of you ISD Praetoxx Ensign Community Communication Liasons (CCLs) Interstellar Service Department |
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Borascus
Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:37:00 -
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It's an idea, that would need some kind of lore change, the Pilot's Licence is like a birth certificate for capsuleers, if you wanted to pay to have it removed it would be "state interest sir" or "i'm being stalked in-pod your honour", otherwise you'd need a slightly devolved Concord, that's a bit bent, and prone to ignoring mysteries.
But yea, paying with PLEX just yells "and we take 10% of your stealingz" |
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CCP Falcon
777
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:38:00 -
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I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this.
I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases.
Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea.
I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already
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Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:41:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this. I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases. Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea. I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already
Perhaps it could be a one-off offering specifically FOR character trades then? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp. R O G U E
626
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:42:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this. I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases. Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea. I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already
while i'd love to be able to change the name of a purchased character as some way to signify it has a new owner, at the same time it'd be too easy for people to abuse it.
the cost and hassle of a character transfer is nothing in comparison to effectively erasing an entire character's history, even if you can see past aliases since very few people would really bother to check.
i think it has more drawbacks than benefits, personally.
edit: where would it stop? if you can change your name, why not your corp history, etc. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Myxx
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:43:00 -
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Not worth the downsides and ramifications it would have on the game. |
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CCP Falcon
777
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:46:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this. I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases. Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea. I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already while i'd love to be able to change the name of a purchased character as some way to signify it has a new owner, at the same time it'd be too easy for people to abuse it. the cost and hassle of a character transfer is nothing in comparison to effectively erasing an entire character's history, even if you can see past aliases since very few people would really bother to check. i think it has more drawbacks than benefits, personally. edit: where would it stop? if you can change your name, why not your corp history, etc.
Oh, I see your point completely.
It's hard to distinguish where the line would be, and on a personal level I wouldn't support being able to erase or modify a character's corporation history at all. Your history of employment in EVE should always be your character's legacy, and you should on that basis pick and choose whom you work for carefully.
There's some good points being brought forward in this thread CCP Falcon -á-á||-á-áEVE Community Team -á|| -á-áEVE Illuminati -á || -á-á@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents
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DeBingJos
Avalon Project Shadow Rock Alliance
438
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:47:00 -
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No, reputation is imporant in EVE. If you want an unknow character, start a new one. Ungi ma+¦urinn ++ekkir reglurnar, en gamli ma+¦urinn ++ekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions. |
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ISD Praetoxx
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
636
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:50:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this. I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases. Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea. I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already
It seems to be a topic that comes up again and again. IF it does get implemented, a history of past names/corps should be a given. And only a unique never before used name would be permitted as a replacement.
Afterall, when you guys purchase a new character, you want to make your own history, not inherit it!
Alternatively you could always wait for the 'Power of 2' offer when it comes around again. ISD Praetoxx Ensign Community Communication Liasons (CCLs) Interstellar Service Department |
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Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
60
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:51:00 -
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ISD Praetoxx wrote:
It seems to be a topic that comes up again and again. IF it does get implemented, a history of past names should be a given. And only a unique never before used name would be permitted as a replacement.
Afterall, when you guys purchase a new character, you want to make your own history, not inherit it!
Alternatively you could always wait for the 'Power of 2' offer when it comes around again.
Perhaps all characters should show a history of trades, as well? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp. R O G U E
628
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:52:00 -
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ISD Praetoxx wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this. I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases. Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea. I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already It seems to be a topic that comes up again and again. IF it does get implemented, a history of past names should be a given. And only a unique never before used name would be permitted as a replacement. Afterall, when you guys purchase a new character, you want to make your own history, not inherit it! Alternatively you could always wait for the 'Power of 2' offer when it comes around again.
the problem with that is you accelerate the situation where the only unused username is "sandy mcballbag".
this is why i hated making alts on WoW, with 10 character slots per account per server people had level 1 characters to reserve names. the hardest part of making a new character was finding a name that wasn't taken and wasn't jibberish. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:55:00 -
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6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
I can say that if I could export this characters name and give her a new one, she would be on the Bazaar tomorrow.
The name means something to me but the way she is skilled doesn't really help me in EVE and the days when they might have are gone I think. Capital construction 5, Sovereignty Skill, Fleet command. She is a Null passive gold mine and worth nothing to me aside from the name. |
Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
138
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:56:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:What about $1000 per character? $1000 + 25% of current SPs.
Fear God and Thread Nought |
TriadSte
IronPig Sev3rance
127
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Posted - 2012.11.15 10:04:00 -
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Im all for name change.
My name is stupid I hate the damn name and a few of my in game friends hate there names also for the simple reason we didn't know it was set in stone when we joined this game.
What would entail a name change though? would it require huge database changes? |
Kara Vix
Sanford and Son Salvage Peregrine Nation
82
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Posted - 2012.11.15 10:05:00 -
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I don't want to change my name but I love the idea of being able too. I have changed names in other games before. The name you chose now might be silly to you 5 years down the road and since you can't just power level another character in Eve the option to change your name seems good. I like the idea others stated that having the ability to find a characters past names would be appropriate, you don't want known spies joining your corp. Past employment history I think should be hidden unless set to allow though. |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp. R O G U E
628
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Posted - 2012.11.15 10:06:00 -
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TriadSte wrote:we didn't know it was set in stone when we joined this game.
O.o
really? pretty much every time you pick a name for anything, it's permanent. it's kinda the point of having names. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Mascha Tzash
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.15 10:08:00 -
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Perhaps it could help to show in the corp history when the character changed hands? Maybe a coloured entry of the timestamp, when the character was moved to another account or the ownership of the account changed.
so you could see, that the character/account was traded, but you still have the corp history. |
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
241
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Posted - 2012.11.15 10:17:00 -
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I like the idea if you could have a name history list. Standings would need to carry over and maybe a notication if someone with standings changes there name. I dont think scammers can exploit it any more then they do now they just sell there character and buying a new one. |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp. R O G U E
628
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Posted - 2012.11.15 10:19:00 -
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Mascha Tzash wrote:Perhaps it could help to show in the corp history when the character changed hands? Maybe a coloured entry of the timestamp, when the character was moved to another account or the ownership of the account changed.
so you could see, that the character/account was traded, but you still have the corp history.
i agree with this, i think character trades should be shown along with the corp history therefore you can see when the character was traded and what corps the new owner has been in.
doesn't really mean much as they could transfer the character to "wipe the slate clean" however you're still able to see the previous corps the character has been in for the paranoid recruiters out there.
also it'd be nice to know if the character you're checking out has been traded before, and if so; when. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
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