Well if bumping is used in combat, i dont have a problem with that. But if it is used just for lulz, i think it is pure griefing (in case of Freighter bumping, as they are superslow to stop and realign).

And what's happening here is not "pure griefing", the bumps are in preparation of combat.

You are welcome to visit Jita. There are a lot of trolls that bumps freighters just for lulz, with no intention for combat. Pure griefing...

You are welcome to visit Jita. There are a lot of trolls that bumps freighters just for lulz, with no intention for combat. Pure griefing...

Make an instaundock, and you'll avoid bumping into other ships and the station. I think you'll find a lot of the "bumps" are actually you bumping into someone else or the station because you're so slow you break the bump invulnerability timer, or whatever it's called.

I'm sure you bumping up against the station because your ship is a tub of lard is CCP griefing you.

The Typhoon is still fairly small. Try a Machariel. It's twice the size, has more mass & moves faster by default. A 100MN SFI is also great.

Right so its the freighter bumping into other ships.

I am dealing with it... by questioning it :) I'm sure there are many good reasons why this works as intended but surely there is another side aswell? That's why it's a debate.

If you think trapping a freighter and getting it stuck thanks to the bump mechanic is that game feature working as intended then nobody is going to change your mind. It's still a legitimate topic for discussion though as some may disagree.

Yes. It's trivially easy to undock (and warp away) from Jita 4-4 without being bumped, even in a freighter.

Speed is squared, mass is not. Hence bumping is effective.

oooh its little miss last word...

Tal

I just don't like it when its used for ****'s and giggles, don't really mind if there is a valid reason behind it... IMHO

Make an instaundock, and you'll avoid bumping into other ships and the station. I think you'll find a lot of the "bumps" are actually you bumping into someone else or the station because you're so slow you break the bump invulnerability timer, or whatever it's called.

Jita bumps: flying tubs of lards which can't reach warp speed before bumping into the station, or being on the undock long enough to start interacting with other ships

You know everyone talks about emergent game play until it effects them. I donGÇÖt consider exploiting flawed or lack of programming to be emergent game play. Bumping is nothing more than taking advantage of poor programming to allow miner griefing and freighter ganking.

Force=massxacceleration f=ma simple physics

wasn't there another one of this exact same thread with the same topic header? And didn't it get locked? Man, all these threads are really starting to blur together... or multiplying like rabbits.

No same thread just cleaned up a lot. Took the ISD at least an hour.

I did have an unfortunate loss upon leaving Jita 4-4 once. While in hindsight I could have done things differently, upon undocking during an early (American time) Sunday afternoon, by the time the game loaded the content outside the station, during my whole black screen event, I heard explosions to find myself idling in a pod once everything loaded. And the pod was sitting within a freighter just sitting outside the station.

So sometimes bad luck will strike, even when taking precautions.

If you didn't fit your freighter to align and warp faster or whatever, then it's your problem.

No, there isn't another side. The only reason to remove the ability to bump freighters would be to make highsec safer. However, the idea that highsec should be safer has been debunked and is only a fringe viewpoint now. Serious observers agree that highsec risk:reward is out of balance because there's too much reward for too little risk in highsec.